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> On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:36:52 -0500, "Dee.Dee" >
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>>and I come up with this blogspot page with all the rfc postings.
>>Is this an rfc page?

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> Looks like a link to google groups to me.
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Thanks, sf.
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>> You can still buy Fiestaware, too. The production was discontinued
>> for a while (due to lead content, I think) but I found a number of
>> bright new Fiestaware bowls and a pitcher a few years ago available
>> for sale at (of all
>> places) 'Cracker Barrel' a few years ago. I saw them and snapped
>> them up.
>>
>> Not to disparage you in any way, but things which are "antique" are
>> often still available today. And quite usable.
>>

>
> I will see Fiestaware at either Kohl's or TJ Max. No flaws. Since I
> love them, they are hard to resist buying all of them. I like bowls
> best, and I've seen them almost everytime I go in -- which isn't
> often, though.
>
> Dee Dee


I've got that lovely round shaped pitcher (in a deep purple shade)... it's
sooo retro/cute I just had to have it. I have deep orange, purple and
yellow Fiestaware bowls (for soup).

There was a thread not long ago about white dinnerware. My dinnerware is
white lattice patterned stoneware and things like this Fiestaware really
punch things up. I think that's the benefit of having white dishes. You
can accent any way you want to.

Jill


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jmcquown > wrote:
:Goomba38 wrote:
:> jmcquown wrote:
:>> David Scheidt wrote:
:>>> If your idea of "camping" involves a car, sure. If you have to
:>>> carry the stuff, no way you want to haul the stuff. It's heavy:
:>>> it's steel covered in rock!
:>>
:>> WTF are you talking about? What's heavy steel covered in what rock?!

Granite ware is steel. It's covered in enamel. Vitreous enamel is
basically glass, which is basically rock. So your pans are steel,
coated in rock.

:>>
:>>
:> Whoa! calm down girlfriend... He is right. The enamel ware, while
:> pretty and always shown as the ideal cowbow-on-the-range-cookware is
:> a lot heavier than folks might want to hand carry in that cute lil'
:> picnic basket. If you're using your car as your "picnic carry
:> basket" and driving up to the picnic table or meadow where you're
:> going to drop your blanket then it doesn't matter?

:Sorry, but my enameled granite ware isn't heavy (to carry). Maybe if I were
:hauling a whole chicken with gravy and dressing in the speckled roasting pan
:to a picnic... yeah It's not cast iron.

:I have a number of these sauce pans (which I highly recommend for ease of
:cleaning and the ability to go from stovetop to oven if needed). I can't
:see having a problem carrying the plates and cups to serve up a picnic
:lunch. I can definitely see how "cowboys" on the range in the late 1800's
:would have carried something like this for serving up supper.

An enamel ware plate weighs about 10 oz. An aluminum plate 3 or 3.5,
a titanium plate 2. Which would you rather carry for a week or two?
Or even on a short 5 mile hike?

Oh, yeah, when you step on that enamel plate, the coating cracks, and
it rusts. When you step on a plain metal one, it bends.
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On Jan 23, 3:36*pm, "Dee.Dee" > wrote:
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> I was googling 'large granite ware roaster' that Wayne said, "I still have a
> large granite ware roaster that I use for a lot of things.
>
> and I come up with this blogspot page with all the rfc postings.
> Is this an rfc page?
>
> I don't get it.
>
> 'Anyway,' I was wondering because some refer to a 'granny speckled roaster..'
> I've never heard it called that either. *Or is large granite and granny
> speckled the same item?
> Thanks.
> Dee Dee


I haven't heard "granny ware," but I have seen "spatter ware." I
have the bottom only of a spatter ware roaster. Didn't find the lid
when we cleaned out my mom's house.

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> I have a small oval roaster that was my mother's, but sadly it had begun to
> rust and I can't locate a replacement.


Did you try Lehman's, online? There are a couple hardware stores (one
local, one affiliated with "Ace Hardware") around here that carry all
kinds of granite ware.

N.


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> I have the large roaster. I love it. I can't imagine mine rusting, I wonder
> how that happened?
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If you ding it hard enough so the porcelain coating chips off, the
bare metal will rust.

N.
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"Nancy2" > wrote in message
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>> I have a small oval roaster that was my mother's, but sadly it had begun
>> to
>> rust and I can't locate a replacement.

>
> Did you try Lehman's, online? There are a couple hardware stores (one
> local, one affiliated with "Ace Hardware") around here that carry all
> kinds of granite ware.
>
> N.


Ace is very good about ordering something for you, too.
Dee Dee


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On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 09:32:08 -0800 (PST), Nancy2
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>On Jan 23, 3:36*pm, "Dee.Dee" > wrote:
>> http://food--cooking.blogspot.com/20...es-in-14-topic...
>>
>> I was googling 'large granite ware roaster' that Wayne said, "I still have a
>> large granite ware roaster that I use for a lot of things.
>>
>> and I come up with this blogspot page with all the rfc postings.
>> Is this an rfc page?
>>
>> I don't get it.
>>
>> 'Anyway,' I was wondering because some refer to a 'granny speckled roaster.'
>> I've never heard it called that either. *Or is large granite and granny
>> speckled the same item?
>> Thanks.
>> Dee Dee

>
>I haven't heard "granny ware," but I have seen "spatter ware." I
>have the bottom only of a spatter ware roaster. Didn't find the lid
>when we cleaned out my mom's house.
>
>N.


Be it speckle or spatter, they are great roasters. I have a beautiful
S/S roaster, but usually use the speckle stuff. Resale stores are
loaded with them. I have many. Here is one of my favorites. I paid 3
or 4 bucks for it. It's uses are endless and it cleans easier than
S/S. As you'll see it's in perfect condition.

http://i27.tinypic.com/4kzbkz.jpg

Lou
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Dee.Dee wrote:
> Funny thing in U.S. movies, meals (people actually eating) are not really
> represented even though it is a large portion time-wise in our lives.
> However, I would say that "maybe" time-wise sex-scenes might be at its peak.
> Knawing at others mouths and growling is at an all-time high! ;-))
>
> Dee Dee


I think it might be time to add Babette's Feast and The Big Night to my
Netflix list. It has been a long time since I watched a good foodie movie.
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> An enamel ware plate weighs about 10 oz. An aluminum plate 3 or 3.5,
> a titanium plate 2.


I'm not positive but I think I saw that they're now using titanium in
wedding rings?
I'm trying to picture it? Was platinum, gold or sterling too soft or
sum'thin?


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"Goomba38" > wrote in message
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> David Scheidt wrote:
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>> An enamel ware plate weighs about 10 oz. An aluminum plate 3 or 3.5,
>> a titanium plate 2.

>
> I'm not positive but I think I saw that they're now using titanium in
> wedding rings?
> I'm trying to picture it? Was platinum, gold or sterling too soft or
> sum'thin?



Titanium probably to match one's spect-tacles.
Dee Dee


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On Jan 24, 1:57 am, "jmcquown" > wrote:
> ntantiques wrote:
> > On Jan 23, 2:18 pm, "Chris Marksberry"
> > > wrote:
> >>> I was googling 'large granite ware roaster' that Wayne said, "I
> >>> still have a large granite ware roaster that I use for a lot of
> >>> things.

>
> >>> and I come up with this blogspot page with all the rfc postings.
> >>> Is this an rfc page?

>
> >>> I don't get it.

>
> >>> 'Anyway,' I was wondering because some refer to a 'granny speckled
> >>> roaster.' I've never heard it called that either. Or is large
> >>> granite and granny speckled the same item?
> >>> Thanks.
> >>> Dee Dee

>
> >> Here's a picture of Graniteware.

>
> >>http://www.goodmans.net/search.asp?t=m&m=97

>
> >> I believe Graniteware is a brand name, but the description is
> >> porcelain on steel cookware... it is the speckled-looking cookware.

>
> >> I have a small oval roaster that was my mother's, but sadly it had
> >> begun to rust and I can't locate a replacement.

>
> > Granite ware is a generic term for utilitarian items made of stamped
> > metal (as opposed to molded or cast iron) and coated with enamel. It
> > was available from many different manufacturers and made in many
> > different countries starting in the 19th century. It is still being
> > made, but the newer stuff I've seen doesn't compare in quality to the
> > old stuff. The older stuff was highly collected in the 1980's.
> > Color and pattern made some of it more desirable (and pricier), but
> > whether it was speckled, splotched, hombre, or solid, it was all
> > called Granite ware.
> > It was bread and butter for an antique dealer (snippage)

>
> We're not necessarily talking antique granite ware, granny-ware,
> splatterware... it's still made today. I'm sure the antiques are desireable
> and were great for antiques dealers in the day, but you can still buy the
> stuff.
>
> http://www.lehmans.com/shopping/sear...n.jsp?fresh=1&...
>
> http://www.lehmans.com/jump.jsp?item...EGORY&iMainCat...
>
> You can still buy Fiestaware, too. The production was discontinued for a
> while (due to lead content, I think) but I found a number of bright new
> Fiestaware bowls and a pitcher a few years ago available for sale at (of all
> places) 'Cracker Barrel' a few years ago. I saw them and snapped them up.
>
> Not to disparage you in any way, but things which are "antique" are often
> still available today. And quite usable.
>
> Jill


All kinds of wonderful products from the past get "rediscovered" and
reproduced, but their quality seldom approaches the original. Fiesta
is one of the exceptions. Before lead became an issue, Fiesta had
become old hat & sales dwindled. It was was revived after it became a
hot hot hot retro collectible and has been very successful.
Fortunately for serious collectors, the new Fiesta is not available
in colors identical to the old stuff and is inexpensive enough to
actually use. Unlike Granite ware, the quality of the new Fiesta is
on a par with the old.

We weren't always a "throw-away" society - older Graniteware was made
to withstand years of heavy use. Because the steel was heavier and the
enamel coatings more thickly applied it was less prone to denting,
chipping, warping and rusting - and like good old cast iron, can last
beautifully for generations. The enamel on today's pieces is
generally very thin - probably sprayed on, where the old stuff was
actually individually dipped. New stuff is fine for a picnic set or a
canning pot (I use one), but not ideal for a roasting pan, where you
often want to cook long and slow.

Again, the original poster was trying to replicate her Mother's
roasting pan. She could buy one of the modern "look-alike" pans, but
I think she'll probably be disappointed with the results if she's been
cooking with an old one. On the other hand, if her Mom bought hers new
in the '70's, it probably won't matter.

Nancy T
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