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Unlike the posters searching for ideas of how to use a hambone, I have
plenty of ideas, but not very many hambones, like maybe one a year. Does anybody have a suggestion of how to lay hands on the occasional hambone without having first to eat the ham? There are only two of us, and a ham big enough to have a bone lasts a long time. I suspect that there may be no solution here. Nobody sells hambones on ebay. |
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On Jan 28, 1:51�pm, wrote:
> Does anybody have a suggestion of how to > lay hands on the occasional hambone without > having first to eat the ham? �There are only two of > us, and a ham big enough to have a bone lasts a � > long time. Most supermarkets I shop sell ham hocks - usable but not great quality. I often buy nice, meaty shanks at German delicatessens. They run about $4 to $6. I have them run through the saw once or twice. |
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![]() > wrote in message ... > Unlike the posters searching for ideas of how to use a hambone, I have > plenty of ideas, but not very many hambones, like maybe one a year. > Does anybody have a suggestion of how to lay hands on the occasional > hambone without having first to eat the ham? There are only two of > us, and a ham big enough to have a bone lasts a long time. > > I suspect that there may be no solution here. Nobody sells hambones > on ebay. Ham freezes well. Buy a whole ham, roast it then portion it and freeze it. I like using ham bits for what many use a ham bone for. Frozen sliced ham is nice for unexpected guests for sandwiches, and for making last-minute appetizers with filo and spinach, or mini ham biscuits. |
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> > Unlike the posters searching for ideas of how to use a hambone, I have > plenty of ideas, but not very many hambones, like maybe one a year. > Does anybody have a suggestion of how to lay hands on the occasional > hambone without having first to eat the ham? *There are only two of > us, and a ham big enough to have a bone lasts a *long time. You could change your ratio of ham to other types of meat eaten. Back when refrigeration was not available people had to eat preserved meat most of the year and that is why ham was popular. Or you could try using beef or pork or lamb bones that aren't preserved for your recipes or even more work do some sort of preservation on them before using. > I suspect that there may be no solution here. No soluation worth the effort, maybe. > Nobody sells hambones on ebay. Try asking the meat cutters at your local groceries. Put in an order for ham bones and offer to pre-pay. Any boneless hams they sell had to get that way somewhere and maybe they do the boning. |
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> Does anybody have a suggestion of how to lay hands on the occasional > hambone without having first to eat the ham? See <http://ballancecountryhams.com/>. They sell ham bones for $2.00 each. See also <http://www.chowhound.com/topics/456388> and <http://community.cookinglight.com/archive/index.php?t-98419.html>. Victor |
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On Jan 28, 4:51�pm, wrote:
> Unlike the posters searching for ideas of how to use a hambone, I have > plenty of ideas, but not very many hambones, like maybe one a year. > Does anybody have a suggestion of how to lay hands on the occasional > hambone without having first to eat the ham? �There are only two of > us, and a ham big enough to have a bone lasts a �long time. > > I suspect that there may be no solution here. Assuming you're going to use the ham bone to flavor soups/beans/ greens, etc. simply buy a half ham and have the butcher quarter the entire thing to freeze and use later... no law says you have to use just the bone... the ham meat flavors the same and gives better eats. Or simply buy smoked ham hocks as needed. |
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![]() "margaret suran" > wrote in message news:479e53fb$0$30696 > wrote: >> Unlike the posters searching for ideas of how to use a hambone, I have >> plenty of ideas, but not very many hambones, like maybe one a year. >> Does anybody have a suggestion of how to lay hands on the occasional >> hambone without having first to eat the ham? There are only two of >> us, and a ham big enough to have a bone lasts a long time. > You have to find a butcher or gourmet food store that sells ready to eat > ham that is sliced off the bone. Here, in New York City, there are many > such stores and a bone as you are looking for costs a couple of dollars. > Actually, they are not really offered for sale, you have to ask whether > they have one or will save one for you. Usually there is enough ham left > on it, to get quite a bit for several meals, such as soup, ham and pasta, > ham and eggs and such. Nostalgia alert: A millyun years ago in Greenwich Village, I used to beg leftover hambones from the neighborhood bar at the end of the week. Made a lot of pea soup for us starving whatevers. Felice |
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Sqwertz wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 13:51:52 -0800 (PST), > wrote: > > > I suspect that there may be no solution here. �Nobody sells hambones > > on ebay. > > That because all the boneless hams were boned before being cured > and smoked). > > -sw That's not true. Hams are boned after they're cured and smoked. |
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![]() "Sqwertz" > wrote in message ... > On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:12:34 -0800 (PST), Sheldon wrote: > >> Sqwertz wrote: >> >>> That because all the boneless hams were boned before being cured >>> and smoked). >> >> That's not true. Hams are boned after they're cured and smoked. > > Maybe *you* bone them after they're cooked (pervert), but this is > not how the major ham manufacturers do it. It is boned, formed > and cased before curing and cooking. > > Think about it, dumbass: If you took the bone out after > processing it would have a big ****ing hole in the center and > would open up when you cooked it - Perfect for "boning", > Sheldon-style. > > Idiot. > I agree with this post. |
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On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 14:08:30 -0800 (PST), KevinS >
wrote: >On Jan 28, 1:51?pm, wrote: > >> Does anybody have a suggestion of how to >> lay hands on the occasional hambone without >> having first to eat the ham? ?There are only two of >> us, and a ham big enough to have a bone lasts a ? >> long time. > >Most supermarkets I shop sell ham hocks - usable but >not great quality. > i used to use ham hocks all the time for bean soup, but there is a lot of mess trimming the meat from the bone after cooking a while. gets some nice fat into the soup, though. now i'm lazy and use country ham chips that come in a roughly eight-ounce package. you still need to trim a little bit before they go into the pot, but it's less troublesome. your pal, blake |
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On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 20:12:19 GMT, blake murphy >
wrote: >now i'm lazy and use country ham chips that come in a roughly >eight-ounce package. you still need to trim a little bit before they >go into the pot, but it's less troublesome. > >your pal, >blake I brought back something similar from VA when I came back here. One is a package of biscuit slices and the other is a package of center slices. I haven't used them yet...but they keep for a good length of time... Haven't decided how to use them. Do you use anything like this, and if so..how? Christine |
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hahabogus > wrote:
> celibatory dinners I like this portmanteau word! Victor |
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Sqwertz wrote:
> Sheldon wrote: > > Sqwertz wrote: > > >> That because all the boneless hams were boned before being cured > >> and smoked). > > > That's not true. �Hams are boned after they're cured and smoked. > > Maybe *you* bone them after they're cooked (pervert), but this is > not how the major ham manufacturers do it. �It is boned, formed > and cased before curing and cooking. You haven't a clue, you just make things up as you go along getting high on drugs. Hams are cured and smoked intact on the bone. Even those made into formed hams are cured and smoked on the bone and then boned and compressed afterwards, albeit it's very doubtful that those are made from ham, at least not 100pct ham... without the bone no one can say for sure it's ham. And it's more difficult/time consuming to remove the bone from fresh ham, more waste too. Those so-called hams made with mechanically picked meat even though they may not be ham were still cured and smoked on the bone, then mechanically picked... why would they need to pick it otherwise. Look at the hams at any stupidmarket, they are all on the bone, even spiral cut, even ham steaks... I've never seen a boned ham sold at any market, fresh or cured, you always need to ask the buther to bone it or bone it yourself at home. It's just not practical to cure and smoke a pile of chunks and shreds... and raw pork won't mold with gelatin, and even if it did, under pressure it would be too dense to properly cure and smoke and certainly not all gelatinized. And the cured and smoked pork products, are not ham, all those are scraps of pork, even Spam ain't ham. If it's ham it's cured and smoked on the bone. There do exist some specialty hams that are cured off the bone and then pressed to complete the curing and drying process but those are not smoked... prosciutto is one, but even then there are different types and it's obvious it's whole ham as averse to compressed chunks. I don't consider prosciutto ham in the typical sense so much as it's a condiment. Prosciutto is savored more for it's texture than taste, it really hasn't much taste, it's more about all that silky fat. People don't build a prosciutto and swiss on rye. And prosciutto is definitely not in the same price range as typical ham, it epitomizes speciallty ham, it's not eaten like typical ham, it's consumed more like caviar. prosciutto [proh-SHOO-toh] The Italian word for "ham," prosciutto is a term broadly used to describe a ham that has been seasoned, salt-cured (but not smoked) and air-dried. The meat is pressed, which produces a firm, dense texture. Italy's PARMA HAM is the true prosciutto, although others are also now made in the United States. Italian prosciuttos are designated prosciutto cotto, which is cooked, and prosciutto crudo, which is raw (though, because of its curing, ready to eat). This type of Italian ham is also labeled according to its city or region of origin, for example prosciutto di Parma and prosciutto di San Daniele. Prosciutto is available in gourmet and Italian markets and some supermarkets. It's usually sold in transparently thin slices. Prosciutto is best eaten as is and is a classic first course when served with melon or figs. It can also be added at the last minute to cooked foods such as pastas or vegetables. Prolonged cooking will toughen it. � Copyright Barron's Educational Services, Inc. 1995 based on TH |
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On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 17:15:18 -0500, margaret suran
> wrote: >Here, in New York City, there are many such stores and a bone as you are looking for costs a couple of >dollars. Actually, they are not really offered for sale, you have to >ask whether they have one or will save one for you. Your post makes me think fondly of Francie in A Tree Grows in Brooklyn asking for the "end of a tongue for a nickel." I believe Honeybaked Ham and Heavenly Ham type shops sell their bones, as well. Tara |
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On Jan 31, 8:44*pm, Tara > wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 17:15:18 -0500, margaret suran > > > wrote: > >Here, in New York City, there are many such stores and a bone as you are looking for costs a couple of > >dollars. *Actually, they are not really offered for sale, you have to > >ask whether they have one or will save one for you. * > > Your post makes me think fondly of Francie in A Tree Grows in Brooklyn > asking for the "end of a tongue for a nickel." > > I believe Honeybaked Ham and Heavenly Ham type shops sell their bones, > as well. * > > Tara Heavenly Ham and HoneyBaked both sell bones when they are available. Which frankly is not often. I know I own a meaningful number of these franchises and have for 20 years. Boneless hams in our case are deboned prior to the smoking and curing process . Based on my knowledge this is true of most boneless hams. They are then netted and cured. |
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![]() "hahabogus" > wrote in message ... > "Michael \"Dog3\"" > wrote in > 6.121: > >> dropped this news:73008ba1-d695-456e-9f48- >> : in rec.food.cooking >> >>> Unlike the posters searching for ideas of how to use a hambone, I have >>> plenty of ideas, but not very many hambones, like maybe one a year. >>> Does anybody have a suggestion of how to lay hands on the occasional >>> hambone without having first to eat the ham? There are only two of >>> us, and a ham big enough to have a bone lasts a long time. >>> >>> I suspect that there may be no solution here. Nobody sells hambones >>> on ebay. >> >> Your local butcher can hook you up, maybe even your local supermarket >> butcher dept. can help you out. >> >> You might be able to find some decent shanks at the supermarket and if >> all else fails you can use hocks although they are different than what >> you are talking about. >> >> What are you going to make with the ham bones? >> >> Michael >> >> >> > > Perhaps entertaining more often would provide you with more ham bones. I > buy about 3 to 4 hams a year. For a variety of reasons...family feasts, > celibatory dinners, dinner parties that sort of thing. I also put my > freezer to good use and thatway aren't stuck with a great deal of > leftovers ham that needs to be eaten soon. > > -- > > The house of the burning beet-Alan > > It'll be a sunny day in August, when the Moon will shine that night- > Elbonian Folklore > This is exactly what I do Alan. I have hambones from the hams that I serve year-round. I have two in my freezer that I bought at Publix the other day. When they hit $.99/# I buy them. ![]() I also have a local butcher that sells bones and ham trim. I'm lucky! helen |