At 15 psi, to be exact. :-)

Tomorrow morning I will visit a young mom I've been helping out
occasionally (broken hip, 2 littles, husband who has been home taking
care of her and the littles for 3 months). Her sister will be there,
too.

Early on after her accident I delivered a meal of beef stew. My Alex,
you'd have thought I'd brought in the crown jewels! <g> Yesterday she
asked me for my recipe for the stew. I just laughed at the word,
'recipe.' I offered my services with them tomorrow and will show them
just how handy a pressure cooker can be. I'd be in a jam (or possibly a
pickle) without mine and I know how some people are squeamish around
them.

I thought I was onto something when I hit Target this morning and
noticed they have USDA Choice boneless chuck roasts available for $3/lb.
I was set to put three into my cart and then read the fine print about
the meat including up to 12% "patented solution."

DammitallToHellAndBack!! I will not knowingly buy injected meat. I've
pretty much made up my mind about it. And why does USDA Choice need it,
please? It doesn't. The dirty rat*******s! So I went over to
Rainbow (considerably out of my way) and discovered that they have their
boneless chucks on sale for the same price and without a "patented
solution" that makes up 12% of the weight of the slab of meat.
Hoo-rah!

I bought three roasts there, one weighing more than 6# (i have not seen
a chuck roast that big in 30 years). We''ll use that one for our
tutoring session and we should have enough meat for at least four to six
meals for two persons.

When I make my beef stew I cook the meat separately, under pressure,
before cooking the vegetables in some of the broth (stovetop cookery
here), then adding back the meat, thickening the juice, and serving it
up. I would bet that in the long run it's faster than cooking
everything together on top of the stove for a couple three hours and has
the added benefit of providing cooked beef chunks available for other
use.

So there.
--
-Barb, gearing up for more pictures of soap bubbles. I've brought the
brass monkey in.
http://www.jamlady.eboard.com; check the second note and
tell me if you knowwhat it is.
Laissez les bons temps rouler!

"Melba's Jammin'" > wrote

> Early on after her accident I delivered a meal of beef stew. My Alex,
> you'd have thought I'd brought in the crown jewels! <g>

Well, why not, the Queen was bringing it!

That was really nice of you to do for them.

> I thought I was onto something when I hit Target this morning and
> noticed they have USDA Choice boneless chuck roasts available for $3/lb.
> I was set to put three into my cart and then read the fine print about
> the meat including up to 12% "patented solution."

(sigh)

> DammitallToHellAndBack!! I will not knowingly buy injected meat. I've
> pretty much made up my mind about it. And why does USDA Choice need it,
> please? It doesn't. The dirty rat*******s!

I am sure their customers don't notice, and if they do, they aren't doing
the math to see what the real price per pound the meat winds up.
(badly worded)

> So I went over to
> Rainbow (considerably out of my way) and discovered that they have their
> boneless chucks on sale for the same price and without a "patented
> solution" that makes up 12% of the weight of the slab of meat.
> Hoo-rah!

Good for you. If I want to add solution to my meat, I'd rather
make my own.

> I bought three roasts there, one weighing more than 6# (i have not seen
> a chuck roast that big in 30 years). We''ll use that one for our
> tutoring session and we should have enough meat for at least four to six
> meals for two persons.

She's going to learn a lot from you! Sorry to hear about her hip.

nancy

In article >,
"Nancy Young" > wrote:

> "Melba's Jammin'" > wrote
>
> > Early on after her accident I delivered a meal of beef stew. My Alex,
> > you'd have thought I'd brought in the crown jewels! <g>
>
> Well, why not, the Queen was bringing it!

(snork)

> That was really nice of you to do for them.

Church-organized. Nice kids. I relate to the younger folks better than
I do most of the people my age. It's a problem. I don't think the
younger ones are especially interested in being my friends, though.

> I am sure their customers don't notice, and if they do, they aren't doing
> the math to see what the real price per pound the meat winds up.
> (badly worded)

I know what you mean. I took pains to explain it very carefully to the
young woman who was next to me at the bin as I was fuming about it.
Then she took one out and put it in her cart. Oh, well.

> Good for you. If I want to add solution to my meat, I'd rather
> make my own.

Agreed.

> She's going to learn a lot from you! Sorry to hear about her hip.

It'll be fun. She's younger than Beck and the break was inoperable.
Had to heal of its own. The littles are 3-1/2 and 7 (now 9) months and
until two weeks ago she was on a hospital bed in the living room. I
hooked her up with a better doc (being from a large family is SO
advantageous sometimes; we have or have connections to all the important
professions) and she's up and around now, down to one crutch. :-)

> nancy

I'll email you with a funny story about the 3-year-old.
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://www.jamlady.eboard.com; check the second note and
tell me if you knowwhat it is.
Laissez les bons temps rouler!

On Jan 29, 1:14*pm, Melba's Jammin' >
wrote:
> At 15 psi, to be exact. *:-)
>
> Tomorrow morning I will visit a young mom I've been helping out
> occasionally (broken hip, 2 littles, husband who has been home taking
> care of her and the littles for 3 months). *Her sister will be there,
> too. *
>
> Early on after her accident I delivered a meal of beef stew. *My Alex,
> you'd have thought I'd brought in the crown jewels! * <g> *Yesterday she
> asked me for my recipe for the stew. *I just laughed at the word,
> 'recipe.' *I offered my services with them tomorrow and will show them
> just how handy a pressure cooker can be. *I'd be in a jam (or possibly a
> pickle) without mine and I know how some people are squeamish around
> them. *
>
> I thought I was onto something when I hit Target this morning and
> noticed they have USDA Choice boneless chuck roasts available for $3/lb. *
> I was set to put three into my cart and then read the fine print about
> the meat including up to 12% "patented solution."
>
> DammitallToHellAndBack!! *I will not knowingly buy injected meat. *I've
> pretty much made up my mind about it. *And why does USDA Choice need it,
> please? *It doesn't. * The dirty rat*******s! * So I went over to
> Rainbow (considerably out of my way) and discovered that they have their
> boneless chucks on sale for the same price and without a "patented
> solution" that makes up 12% of the weight of the slab of meat. *
> Hoo-rah! *
>
> I bought three roasts there, one weighing more than 6# (i have not seen
> a chuck roast that big in 30 years). *We''ll use that one for our
> tutoring session and we should have enough meat for at least four to six
> meals for two persons.
>
> When I make my beef stew I cook the meat separately, under pressure,
> before cooking the vegetables in some of the broth (stovetop cookery
> here), then adding back the meat, thickening the juice, and serving it
> up. *I would bet that in the long run it's faster than cooking
> everything together on top of the stove for a couple three hours and has
> the added benefit of providing cooked beef chunks available for other
> use.
>
> So there.
> --
> -Barb, gearing up for more pictures of soap bubbles. *I've brought the
> brass monkey in.http://www.jamlady.eboard.com;check the second note and
> tell me if you knowwhat it is.
> Laissez les bons temps rouler!

How nice of you to do that for them- more people should follow in your
footsteps!

"Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message
...
> At 15 psi, to be exact. :-)
>
> Tomorrow morning I will visit a young mom I've been helping out
> occasionally (broken hip, 2 littles, husband who has been home taking
> care of her and the littles for 3 months). Her sister will be there,
> too.
>
> Early on after her accident I delivered a meal of beef stew. My Alex,
> you'd have thought I'd brought in the crown jewels! <g> Yesterday she
> asked me for my recipe for the stew. I just laughed at the word,
> 'recipe.' I offered my services with them tomorrow and will show them
> just how handy a pressure cooker can be. I'd be in a jam (or possibly a
> pickle) without mine and I know how some people are squeamish around
> them.
>
> I thought I was onto something when I hit Target this morning and
> noticed they have USDA Choice boneless chuck roasts available for $3/lb.
> I was set to put three into my cart and then read the fine print about
> the meat including up to 12% "patented solution."
>
> DammitallToHellAndBack!! I will not knowingly buy injected meat. I've
> pretty much made up my mind about it. And why does USDA Choice need it,
> please? It doesn't. The dirty rat*******s! So I went over to
> Rainbow (considerably out of my way) and discovered that they have their
> boneless chucks on sale for the same price and without a "patented
> solution" that makes up 12% of the weight of the slab of meat.
> Hoo-rah!
>
> I bought three roasts there, one weighing more than 6# (i have not seen
> a chuck roast that big in 30 years). We''ll use that one for our
> tutoring session and we should have enough meat for at least four to six
> meals for two persons.
>
> When I make my beef stew I cook the meat separately, under pressure,
> before cooking the vegetables in some of the broth (stovetop cookery
> here), then adding back the meat, thickening the juice, and serving it
> up. I would bet that in the long run it's faster than cooking
> everything together on top of the stove for a couple three hours and has
> the added benefit of providing cooked beef chunks available for other
> use.
>
> So there.

I didn't know Target sold food! They don't in this area.

AFAIK, we don't have any meat in this area with injectible solution in it.
I haven't seen it on any labels but perhaps I should check further. I do
know that the meat sold at one store always seems to taste better and that's
where I buy the majority of my meat. That and the health food store, but
their meat is sold frozen. I also always buy organic meat.

On Tue 29 Jan 2008 02:14:10p, Melba's Jammin' told us...

> At 15 psi, to be exact. :-)
>
> Tomorrow morning I will visit a young mom I've been helping out
> occasionally (broken hip, 2 littles, husband who has been home taking
> care of her and the littles for 3 months). Her sister will be there,
> too.
>
> Early on after her accident I delivered a meal of beef stew. My Alex,
> you'd have thought I'd brought in the crown jewels! <g> Yesterday she
> asked me for my recipe for the stew. I just laughed at the word,
> 'recipe.' I offered my services with them tomorrow and will show them
> just how handy a pressure cooker can be. I'd be in a jam (or possibly a
> pickle) without mine and I know how some people are squeamish around
> them.
>
> I thought I was onto something when I hit Target this morning and
> noticed they have USDA Choice boneless chuck roasts available for $3/lb.
> I was set to put three into my cart and then read the fine print about
> the meat including up to 12% "patented solution."
>
> DammitallToHellAndBack!! I will not knowingly buy injected meat. I've
> pretty much made up my mind about it. And why does USDA Choice need it,
> please? It doesn't. The dirty rat*******s! So I went over to
> Rainbow (considerably out of my way) and discovered that they have their
> boneless chucks on sale for the same price and without a "patented
> solution" that makes up 12% of the weight of the slab of meat.
> Hoo-rah!
>
> I bought three roasts there, one weighing more than 6# (i have not seen
> a chuck roast that big in 30 years). We''ll use that one for our
> tutoring session and we should have enough meat for at least four to six
> meals for two persons.
>
> When I make my beef stew I cook the meat separately, under pressure,
> before cooking the vegetables in some of the broth (stovetop cookery
> here), then adding back the meat, thickening the juice, and serving it
> up. I would bet that in the long run it's faster than cooking
> everything together on top of the stove for a couple three hours and has
> the added benefit of providing cooked beef chunks available for other
> use.
>
> So there.

You're a good soul, you are, Melba!

--
Wayne Boatwright

*******************************************
Date: Tuesday, 01(I)/29(XXIX)/08(MMVIII)
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You'll be the first ones up against
the wall when the revolution comes.
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On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 23:45:08 GMT, "Julie Bove" >
wrote:


>I didn't know Target sold food! They don't in this area.

Target is to food what McDonalds is to hamburgers.

Lou

"Melba's Jammin'" wrote

>> I am sure their customers don't notice, and if they do, they aren't doing
>> the math to see what the real price per pound the meat winds up.
>> (badly worded)
>
> I know what you mean. I took pains to explain it very carefully to the
> young woman who was next to me at the bin as I was fuming about it.
> Then she took one out and put it in her cart. Oh, well.

So might I depending on what the solution was. If it was salt solution no
(sodium restrictions but they have to post that if it has sodium).

Here's why: at 12%, that 3$ cut actually costs about 3.36lb. If I can get
to a store without that added 36cents without spending more than 36 cents
gas to get there, I might do it. If I needed say 5-6 lbs of that meat it
may be worth it to go elsewhere but only if they werent charging more than
3$ a lb.

I was talking with my guys at work last night (night shift, 5pm to 5am) and
we got on the subject of shopping. 'T-bone' (nickname for one of the guys)
has no real shopping or cooking skills. His live in gilfriend has been
slowly swinging him around and he said she's put her foot down and he's
never allowed to grocery shop alone. Seems a few weeks ago she had the
winter flu and he tried to do her a 'favor' to the tune of 350$ worth of
premade TV dinners etc. He's mystified at how she only asks him for 75$
every 2 weeks. Now, he's suffering as she gave him 75$ and he's had to make
do the rest of the month <g>.

In article 4>,
Wayne Boatwright > wrote:

> On Tue 29 Jan 2008 02:14:10p, Melba's Jammin' told us...
>
> > At 15 psi, to be exact. :-)
> >
> > Tomorrow morning I will visit a young mom I've been helping out
> > occasionally (broken hip, 2 littles, husband who has been home taking
> > care of her and the littles for 3 months). Her sister will be there,
> > too.

> You're a good soul, you are, Melba!

My mom taught me to help people who need help. I do what I can.
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://www.jamlady.eboard.com; check the second note and
tell me if you knowwhat it is.
Laissez les bons temps rouler!

In article >,
Lou Decruss > wrote:

> On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 23:45:08 GMT, "Julie Bove" >
> wrote:
>
>
> >I didn't know Target sold food! They don't in this area.
>
> Target is to food what McDonalds is to hamburgers.
>
> Lou

What do you mean by that?

--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://www.jamlady.eboard.com; check the second note and
tell me if you knowwhat it is.
Laissez les bons temps rouler!

In article >,
"cshenk" > wrote:

> "Melba's Jammin'" wrote
>
> >> I am sure their customers don't notice, and if they do, they aren't doing
> >> the math to see what the real price per pound the meat winds up.
> >> (badly worded)
> >
> > I know what you mean. I took pains to explain it very carefully to the
> > young woman who was next to me at the bin as I was fuming about it.
> > Then she took one out and put it in her cart. Oh, well.
>
> So might I depending on what the solution was. If it was salt solution no
> (sodium restrictions but they have to post that if it has sodium).
>
> Here's why: at 12%, that 3$ cut actually costs about 3.36lb. If I can get
> to a store without that added 36cents without spending more than 36 cents
> gas to get there, I might do it. If I needed say 5-6 lbs of that meat it
> may be worth it to go elsewhere but only if they werent charging more than
> 3$ a lb.

I try to shop where I can buy what I need and what I want at reasonable
prices. I can justify the shopping trip by doing other errands in the
same area. Business is business and if i want good quality it sometimes
costs more. Sometimes I'm quite willing to pay a higher price,
sometimes I am not. Sometimes I'm willing to go quite a distance for
it; In this case I bought ~14# of meat and other stuff and used less
than a gallon of gas in the doing. "The bottom line" isn't always about
dollars and cents.


--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://www.jamlady.eboard.com; check the second note and
tell me if you knowwhat it is.
Laissez les bons temps rouler!

"Melba's Jammin'" wrote

> same area. Business is business and if i want good quality it sometimes
> costs more. Sometimes I'm quite willing to pay a higher price,

Yes, same here.

> sometimes I am not. Sometimes I'm willing to go quite a distance for
> it; In this case I bought ~14# of meat and other stuff and used less
> than a gallon of gas in the doing. "The bottom line" isn't always about
> dollars and cents.

Quite true. I regularily go to the local 'asian market' and it's not just
price that drives me there. The quality is high and the seafoods are better
at my local one than at the usual krogers etc for such. (though krogers is
pretty good for salmon, catfish, etc).

Since seafood is pretty close to 50% of our meat potion of the diet, we
insist on quality and reasonable prices. I'll happily pay 3.99lb for whole
uncleaned squid over 1.99lb frozen chopped for example.

cshenk wrote:
> "Melba's Jammin'" wrote

>> I know what you mean. I took pains to explain it very carefully to the
>> young woman who was next to me at the bin as I was fuming about it.
>> Then she took one out and put it in her cart. Oh, well.
>
> So might I depending on what the solution was. If it was salt solution no
> (sodium restrictions but they have to post that if it has sodium).

What else would it be if not a sodium laden "broth" as they call it?

On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 21:15:23 -0600, Melba's Jammin'
> wrote:

>In article >,
> Lou Decruss > wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 23:45:08 GMT, "Julie Bove" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> >I didn't know Target sold food! They don't in this area.
>>
>> Target is to food what McDonalds is to hamburgers.
>>
>> Lou
>
>What do you mean by that?

Target isn't a very good store. At least around here. I've looked
around there a few times and decided we don't need to shop there.

Lou

In article >,
Lou Decruss > wrote:

> On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 21:15:23 -0600, Melba's Jammin'
> > wrote:
>
> >In article >,
> > Lou Decruss > wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 23:45:08 GMT, "Julie Bove" >
> >> wrote:

> >> >I didn't know Target sold food! They don't in this area.
> >>
> >> Target is to food what McDonalds is to hamburgers.
> >>
> >> Lou
> >
> >What do you mean by that?
>
> Target isn't a very good store. At least around here. I've looked
> around there a few times and decided we don't need to shop there.
>
> Lou

Interesting. I wonder if the merchandise is different from location to
location. The SuperTargets have grocery stores in one half of the store
and they're no different from other supermarkets. There are quite a few
of them around here. And i've never had a problem with their general
merchandise section, either. The stores are clean. To each one's own.

--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://www.jamlady.eboard.com; check the second note and
tell me if you knowwhat it is.
Laissez les bons temps rouler!

"Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "cshenk" > wrote:
>
>> "Melba's Jammin'" wrote
>>
>> >> I am sure their customers don't notice, and if they do, they aren't
>> >> doing
>> >> the math to see what the real price per pound the meat winds up.
>> >> (badly worded)
>> >
>> > I know what you mean. I took pains to explain it very carefully to the
>> > young woman who was next to me at the bin as I was fuming about it.
>> > Then she took one out and put it in her cart. Oh, well.
>>
>> So might I depending on what the solution was. If it was salt solution
>> no
>> (sodium restrictions but they have to post that if it has sodium).
>>
>> Here's why: at 12%, that 3$ cut actually costs about 3.36lb. If I can
>> get
>> to a store without that added 36cents without spending more than 36 cents
>> gas to get there, I might do it. If I needed say 5-6 lbs of that meat it
>> may be worth it to go elsewhere but only if they werent charging more
>> than
>> 3$ a lb.
>
> I try to shop where I can buy what I need and what I want at reasonable
> prices. I can justify the shopping trip by doing other errands in the
> same area. Business is business and if i want good quality it sometimes
> costs more. Sometimes I'm quite willing to pay a higher price,
> sometimes I am not. Sometimes I'm willing to go quite a distance for
> it; In this case I bought ~14# of meat and other stuff and used less
> than a gallon of gas in the doing. "The bottom line" isn't always about
> dollars and cents.
>
>
> --
> -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
> http://www.jamlady.eboard.com; check the second note and
> tell me if you knowwhat it is.
> Laissez les bons temps rouler!

At the risk of being flamed for mentioning his name, that was the whole
premise behind Jeff Smith's Frugal Gourmet. Frugal does not necessarily
mean cheap. It means getting your money's worth.

You go girl, do you use coupons too?
-ginny

"Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message
...
> In article 4>,
> Wayne Boatwright > wrote:
>
>> On Tue 29 Jan 2008 02:14:10p, Melba's Jammin' told us...
>>
>> > At 15 psi, to be exact. :-)
>> >
>> > Tomorrow morning I will visit a young mom I've been helping out
>> > occasionally (broken hip, 2 littles, husband who has been home taking
>> > care of her and the littles for 3 months). Her sister will be there,
>> > too.
>
>> You're a good soul, you are, Melba!
>
> My mom taught me to help people who need help. I do what I can.
> --
> -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
> http://www.jamlady.eboard.com; check the second note and
> tell me if you knowwhat it is.
> Laissez les bons temps rouler!

Mamma would be proud. You are good daughter.
-ginny

On Jan 29, 5:45 pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> "Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
>
>
> > At 15 psi, to be exact. :-)
>
> > Tomorrow morning I will visit a young mom I've been helping out
> > occasionally (broken hip, 2 littles, husband who has been home taking
> > care of her and the littles for 3 months). Her sister will be there,
> > too.
>
> > Early on after her accident I delivered a meal of beef stew. My Alex,
> > you'd have thought I'd brought in the crown jewels! <g> Yesterday she
> > asked me for my recipe for the stew. I just laughed at the word,
> > 'recipe.' I offered my services with them tomorrow and will show them
> > just how handy a pressure cooker can be. I'd be in a jam (or possibly a
> > pickle) without mine and I know how some people are squeamish around
> > them.
>
> > I thought I was onto something when I hit Target this morning and
> > noticed they have USDA Choice boneless chuck roasts available for $3/lb.
> > I was set to put three into my cart and then read the fine print about
> > the meat including up to 12% "patented solution."
>
> > DammitallToHellAndBack!! I will not knowingly buy injected meat. I've
> > pretty much made up my mind about it. And why does USDA Choice need it,
> > please? It doesn't. The dirty rat*******s! So I went over to
> > Rainbow (considerably out of my way) and discovered that they have their
> > boneless chucks on sale for the same price and without a "patented
> > solution" that makes up 12% of the weight of the slab of meat.
> > Hoo-rah!
>
> > I bought three roasts there, one weighing more than 6# (i have not seen
> > a chuck roast that big in 30 years). We''ll use that one for our
> > tutoring session and we should have enough meat for at least four to six
> > meals for two persons.
>
> > When I make my beef stew I cook the meat separately, under pressure,
> > before cooking the vegetables in some of the broth (stovetop cookery
> > here), then adding back the meat, thickening the juice, and serving it
> > up. I would bet that in the long run it's faster than cooking
> > everything together on top of the stove for a couple three hours and has
> > the added benefit of providing cooked beef chunks available for other
> > use.
>
> > So there.
>
> I didn't know Target sold food! They don't in this area.
>
> AFAIK, we don't have any meat in this area with injectible solution in it.
> I haven't seen it on any labels but perhaps I should check further. I


If you're in the U.S., probably any Hormel meat that you buy already
in a package is injected with something which adds appreciably to the
cost per pound. Check the labels.

However, injected meat sometimes has better flavor than that which is
not - you just need to know how to cook the un-injected to get a
superior result.

N.

On Jan 30, 8:30 am, Melba's Jammin' >
wrote:
> In article >,
> Lou Decruss > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 21:15:23 -0600, Melba's Jammin'
> > > wrote:
>
> > >In article >,
> > > Lou Decruss > wrote:
>
> > >> On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 23:45:08 GMT, "Julie Bove" >
> > >> wrote:
> > >> >I didn't know Target sold food! They don't in this area.
>
> > >> Target is to food what McDonalds is to hamburgers.
>
> > >> Lou
>
> > >What do you mean by that?
>
> > Target isn't a very good store. At least around here. I've looked
> > around there a few times and decided we don't need to shop there.
>
> > Lou
>
> Interesting. I wonder if the merchandise is different from location to
> location. The SuperTargets have grocery stores in one half of the store
> and they're no different from other supermarkets. There are quite a few
> of them around here. And i've never had a problem with their general
> merchandise section, either. The stores are clean. To each one's own.
>
> --
> -Barb, Mother Superior,


We don't have a super Target, but we do have a super WalMart, and the
produce is fantastic with a good variety available. I was hesitant at
first to shop their groceries, but if I'm out that way anyway, and
they're having a good special, I certainly stop by and buy. I
especially like their artisan-type bread varieties.

N.

"Virginia Tadrzynski" wrote

>>> So might I depending on what the solution was. If it was salt solution
>>> (sodium restrictions but they have to post that if it has sodium).
> the risk of being flamed for mentioning his name, that was the whole
> premise behind Jeff Smith's Frugal Gourmet. Frugal does not necessarily
> mean cheap. It means getting your money's worth.

Yup. Sometimes as Nancy2 mentions, the 'solution' is a tenderizer and in
modest amounts, may enhance the item.

> You go girl, do you use coupons too?

Sometimes! I tend to clip them when thinking of shopping, if only to get
reminders on what I might need. Often enough though, I forget to have my
coupon book with me <g>.

"Goomba38" wrote
> cshenk wrote:
>> "Melba's Jammin'" wrote
>
>>> I know what you mean. I took pains to explain it very carefully to the
>>> young woman who was next to me at the bin as I was fuming about it.
>>> Then she took one out and put it in her cart. Oh, well.
>>
>> So might I depending on what the solution was. If it was salt solution
>> no (sodium restrictions but they have to post that if it has sodium).
>
> What else would it be if not a sodium laden "broth" as they call it?

In Asia, sometimes a non-salty broth and it's in modest amounts (2-4%). I
dont automatically refuse 'injected meats' but check to see what was added.
Plenty of recipes actually use an injector to add a bit of broth or
something else with seasonings.

Kobe beef and it's knockoff cousin often has some small amount of a broth
injected, at least in my experience in Japan. This was also known and not
'hidden'. I know because I had to get the second version (they had 2, one
used a bit more salt than I wanted, the other used none but had a small
amount of MSG which in moderation, we can use).

MSG BTW, does have sodium but far less than in table salt. So if you are
sodium reduced (not restricted but the more common 'reduced' at
1,500-2,000mg), it can be an effective way to add flavor while reducing salt
use. Obviously, use in moderation.

In article >,
Melba's Jammin' > wrote:

> Target... USDA Choice... 12% "patented solution."

I'll bet that would be an interesting patent to read.

In article >,
Melba's Jammin' > wrote:

> At 15 psi, to be exact. :-)
>
> Tomorrow morning I will visit a young mom I've been helping out
> occasionally (broken hip, 2 littles, husband who has been home taking
> care of her and the littles for 3 months). Her sister will be there,
> too.

I'm just back from my day with the ladies. :-) We had a great time
together. I brought my camera and forgot to take pics of the WIP !
Jeez!

We used a 6# boneless chuck and I had them trim it and cut it into
pieces. I browned it and then pressure cooked it in two batches. I
cooked the vegetables in some of the meat broth (celery, onions,
carrots, potatoes), added the meat to it along with more broth and we
called it done. And we called it stew.

For ~$20 we had six entrees for two people each; we divided the stew and
the meat that was cooked but not stew. One woman will make that into a
"Stroganoff-like" dish.

I was kind of amazed that the younger of the two didn't know much at all
about preparing meat. OTOH, she said that she's the baker in the family
and her husband does all (or most all) the dinner prep, so I guess that
makes some sense. :-) I'll find a couple sites with diagrams for her
to help her become familiar with where the various cuts come from on the
critter.
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://www.jamlady.eboard.com; check the second note and
tell me if you knowwhat it is.
Laissez les bons temps rouler!

In article <300120081251456973%ouchimbleeding@ouchimbleeding. com>,
dull knife > wrote:

> In article >,
> Melba's Jammin' > wrote:

> So one day I'm in the local store minding my own business looking at
> CD's. A boy about 8/9-y.o. runs up and says, Where's my mother? I
> said, I don't know, maybe you're an orphan now. Kid runs off and finds
> mommie, who was in the next aisle and overheard me. She complains to
> the manager (assistant manager, a kid, about 20 y.o.) that I
> traumatized her precious child, so he comes up to me and asks me to
> leave the store.

Wow! I hope to high heaven that you got his name and wrote to the
corporate office with the details of your experience!! That's just
nasty! Shame on him. Little punk!
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://www.jamlady.eboard.com; check the second note and
tell me if you knowwhat it is.
Laissez les bons temps rouler!

Melba's Jammin' wrote:

> I was kind of amazed that the younger of the two didn't know much at all
> about preparing meat. OTOH, she said that she's the baker in the family
> and her husband does all (or most all) the dinner prep, so I guess that
> makes some sense. :-) I'll find a couple sites with diagrams for her
> to help her become familiar with where the various cuts come from on the
> critter.

http://www.txbeef.org/cooking_school/shop_smart

In article >,
Melba's Jammin' > wrote:

> Wow! I hope to high heaven that you got his name and wrote to the
> corporate office with the details of your experience!! That's just
> nasty! Shame on him. Little punk!

I might have done what you suggest in my younger days. But now that
I'm a senior citizen, I leave the complaining up to someone else to
prevent stress.

Sadly, this employee will likely eventually mess up again.
Organizations like that (gov't, too, it's everywhere) are structured to
back up employees no matter how incompetent they are. It would be a
waste of time.

No, there's a recession (or worse) coming and Target will be one of
those places that will wish they had customers back with whom they
adopted a cavalier attitude. I call it "The American Attitude."
Basically, it involves telling people they have disagreements or
misunderstandings with, or who don't like prices or selection, to "Go
shop someplace else if you don't like it." I think there'll be less of
this when times get tougher.

Besides, I wouldn't have discovered Freddies if this hadn't happened.
I'm happy, it's a union shop.

Best wishes to you.

In article <300120082019135858%ouchimbleeding@ouchimbleeding. com>,
dull knife > wrote:

> In article >,
> Melba's Jammin' > wrote:
>
> > Wow! I hope to high heaven that you got his name and wrote to the
> > corporate office with the details of your experience!! That's just
> > nasty! Shame on him. Little punk!
>
> I might have done what you suggest in my younger days. But now that
> I'm a senior citizen, I leave the complaining up to someone else to
> prevent stress.

That's funny. I write my complaint letters in order to alleviate my
stress. :-0) Stating my dissatisfaction with a policy, practice, or
situation lets me feel like I "did something" instead of just bitched
about it to a friend. I believe in voting with my feet and I like to
give folks a second chance, too.
>
> Sadly, this employee will likely eventually mess up again.

If his bosses don't know of his poor customer relations how can they be
expected to intervene so it doesn't repeat?

> Organizations like that (gov't, too, it's everywhere) are structured to
> back up employees no matter how incompetent they are. It would be a
> waste of time.

Huh. Two weeks ago I needed to pick up 3 prescriptions. There was a
sign saying a new computer system was in use and please be patient.
There were about 4 or 5 people ahead of me in line. I waited 45 minutes
and could get only two of them. There were two people behind the
counter and they looked harried. When asked they said they were denied
more help by their manager. I asked for a name, came home, and emailed
the guy stating that there tv ads touting their pharmacy's customer
service were a sham ‹ that the customers at this store weren't getting
much service and would he please get them some HELP for a few days while
they become more confident and familiar with their new system.

Several hours later I went back to the store and there were 3 people
working and 6 people in line, some who had been there for half an hour
(I asked). I came home and emailed him again that night.

The next day when I went back for the third prescription there were 7
people behind the counter and the District Manager was one of them.
There was still a line of people but my wait was 20 minutes instead of
the hour it might well have been.

I sent him another email, thanking him for helping out. :-0) I suppose
he was, in a sense, "backing up his employees," but it looked like
better customer service in the end.

>
> No, there's a recession (or worse) coming and Target will be one of
> those places that will wish they had customers back with whom they
> adopted a cavalier attitude. I call it "The American Attitude."
> Basically, it involves telling people they have disagreements or
> misunderstandings with, or who don't like prices or selection, to "Go
> shop someplace else if you don't like it."

Understood.

> I think there'll be less of this when times get tougher.

Well, I'm interested in Target's success and when times are tougher and
situations need improvement, it's nice to know exactly where the
improvement needs to happen.

> Besides, I wouldn't have discovered Freddies if this hadn't happened.
> I'm happy, it's a union shop.

Well, there you go! :-)
I hope the union represents its workers well so they can serve their
customers well.

> Best wishes to you.

Thank you * back atcha.
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://www.jamlady.eboard.com; check the second note and
tell me if you knowwhat it is.
Laissez les bons temps rouler!

Melba's Jammin' and dull knife wrote the following:

> > > ...wrote to the
> > > corporate office with the details of your experience!!

> > I might have done what you suggest in my younger days. But now that
> > I'm a senior citizen, I leave the complaining up to someone else to
> > prevent stress.

> That's funny. I write my complaint letters in order to alleviate my
> stress. :-0) Stating my dissatisfaction with a policy, practice, or
> situation lets me feel like I "did something" instead of just bitched
> about it to a friend. I believe in voting with my feet and I like to
> give folks a second chance, too.

I voted with my feet. Like I said, when I was younger I might have
done more, but life is short and I'd rather spend it baking bread and
watching Rachael Ray (wowie zowie!) than writing complaints.

> > Sadly, this employee will likely eventually mess up again.

> If his bosses don't know of his poor customer relations how can they be
> expected to intervene so it doesn't repeat?

Once I left the store I had no interest one way or another if it
happened again. Life's easier and less stressful (for me) that way.
My experience is there's little to be gained in trying to improve
customer relations. Besides, remember your Traditional Western Values.
Be accepting of your fate. Be stoic in the face of adversity. Don't
complain. Also, work is good for work's sake and for the soul.

> > Organizations like that (gov't, too, it's everywhere) are structured to
> > back up employees no matter how incompetent they are. It would be a
> > waste of time.
>
> There were two people behind the counter and...
> The next day when I went back for the third prescription there were 7
> people behind the counter and the District Manager was one of them...
> he was, in a sense, "backing up his employees," but it looked like
> better customer service in the end.

Chalk one up for you. I've never had anything like this happen to me.
In my case, the district manager would have removed an employee because
experience tells him that 95% of people who wait 45 minutes will wait
another 15 minutes, and he saves more money by removing the employee
than he loses by having a few people walk because they have to wait an
hour instead of 45 minutes.

Something like that, anyway.

> > I think there'll be less of this when times get tougher.

> Well, I'm interested in Target's success and when times are tougher and
> situations need improvement, it's nice to know exactly where the
> improvement needs to happen.

I'm not optimistic about big-box stores if we have hard times. I just
don't know what will replace them. Our main street, one a vibrant
commercial center with national names and good local stores, is now a
crime-ridden area with gambling, Jesus establishments, pawn shops, bars
and boutique businesses with no place to go. A good old-fashioned
depression is going to be very interesting when it arrives.

> > Besides, I wouldn't have discovered Freddies if this hadn't happened.
> > I'm happy, it's a union shop.

> Well, there you go! :-)
> I hope the union represents its workers well so they can serve their
> customers well.

I hope so, too. Whenever I talk to a manager I remind him that I shop
there for two reasons. Union shop and nice produce bags. Oh, and I
complain about the carrots. I ate a whole bunch and then couldn't go
to sleep. Every time I closed my eyes, I could see right through my
eyelids.

> > Best wishes to you.
>
> Thank you * back atcha.

I appreciate that.

In article >,
"Virginia Tadrzynski" > wrote:

> You go girl, do you use coupons too?
> -ginny

Not as much as I used to. I'll use the store coupons from the Sunday ad
but from other sources, not so much.

I used to keep track of the savings and donate the amount once a month
to the World Hunger fund at church. I figured I'd have paid full price
for the item anyway if I didn't have the coupon and donating the savings
didn't hurt me.
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://www.jamlady.eboard.com; check the second note and
tell me if you knowwhat it is.
Laissez les bons temps rouler!

On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 12:05:33 -0800, dull knife
> wrote:

>Oh, and I
>complain about the carrots. I ate a whole bunch and then couldn't go
>to sleep. Every time I closed my eyes, I could see right through my
>eyelids.

too funny.

your pal,
blake

On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 08:51:26 -0800 (PST), Nancy2
> wrote:

>> > >> Target is to food what McDonalds is to hamburgers.
>>
>> > >> Lou
>>
>> > >What do you mean by that?
>>
>> > Target isn't a very good store. At least around here. I've looked
>> > around there a few times and decided we don't need to shop there.
>>
>> > Lou
>>
>> Interesting. I wonder if the merchandise is different from location to
>> location. The SuperTargets have grocery stores in one half of the store
>> and they're no different from other supermarkets. There are quite a few
>> of them around here. And i've never had a problem with their general
>> merchandise section, either. The stores are clean. To each one's own.
>>
>> --
>> -Barb, Mother Superior,
>
>
>We don't have a super Target, but we do have a super WalMart, and the
>produce is fantastic with a good variety available. I was hesitant at
>first to shop their groceries, but if I'm out that way anyway, and
>they're having a good special, I certainly stop by and buy. I
>especially like their artisan-type bread varieties.

<gasp>

On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 12:51:45 -0800, dull knife
> wrote:

>In article >,
>Melba's Jammin' > wrote:
>
>> Target...
>> And i've never had a problem with their general
>> merchandise section, either. The stores are clean. To each one's own.
>
>No reflection on you and your good vibes, Melba, but I had an
>experience...
>
>I probably spent $1000/yr. in the local Target store on all of my minor
>kitchen appliances, cameras, Christmas presents, bedding, CD's and
>DVD's, video recorders and televisions. Stuff adds up.
>
>So one day I'm in the local store minding my own business looking at
>CD's. A boy about 8/9-y.o. runs up and says, Where's my mother? I
>said, I don't know, maybe you're an orphan now. Kid runs off and finds
>mommie, who was in the next aisle and overheard me. She complains to
>the manager (assistant manager, a kid, about 20 y.o.) that I
>traumatized her precious child, so he comes up to me and asks me to
>leave the store.
>
>I asked, Why? He says, This lady complained about you calling her kid
>an orphan. I said, The real problem here is she let her kid run wild
>in the store to bother your customers, so she's actually violated a
>store policy, which I haven't. You should go ask _her_ to leave.
>
>He says, She's got a whole cart of goods and I don't see you have
>anything, so I'd rather you leave. I left and haven't been back since.
>There's a Freddies right down the street and they have everything
>Target has. Too bad for the local Safeway across the street from
>Target because I buy groceries at Freddie's now, as long as I'm there.

Funny story. Thanks.

Lou

On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 20:19:13 -0800, dull knife
> wrote:


>Besides, I wouldn't have discovered Freddies if this hadn't happened.
>I'm happy, it's a union shop.
>

Even better!!!

Lou