This is kinda puzzling to me.

When one blocks a sender and the sender has been a avid poster, it takes a
moment to delete all of their previous posts, after you have clicked that
you wish all of the previous posts to be deleted.

Do you think the computer will delete all postings from the same poster even
if they have a different posting name.

Dee Dee

"Dee.Dee" > wrote in message
...
> This is kinda puzzling to me.
>
> When one blocks a sender and the sender has been a avid poster, it takes a
> moment to delete all of their previous posts, after you have clicked that
> you wish all of the previous posts to be deleted.
>
> Do you think the computer will delete all postings from the same poster
> even if they have a different posting name.

If they change their name you have to block the new name as well.

On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 05:53:53 GMT, "Julie Bove" >
wrote:

>
>"Dee.Dee" > wrote in message
...
>> This is kinda puzzling to me.
>>
>> When one blocks a sender and the sender has been a avid poster, it takes a
>> moment to delete all of their previous posts, after you have clicked that
>> you wish all of the previous posts to be deleted.
>>
>> Do you think the computer will delete all postings from the same poster
>> even if they have a different posting name.
>
>If they change their name you have to block the new name as well.
>
How does she know it's the same sender? Block using that clue as a
filter.

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In article >,
Sqwertz > wrote:

> On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 17:12:15 GMT, Janet Baraclough wrote:
>
> > The message <RXbqj.8570$k%2.1004@trndny09>
> > from "Julie Bove" > contains these words:

> >> If they change their name you have to block the new name as well.
> >
> > Not if they still use the same from address.
>
> I believe that with Outlook, you need to match the name and
> posting address. Which is why I can just change one letter in
> either the name or address to avoid OE killfiles (not that I'd
> ever do that, mind you).

Many of us will remember Mr. Chung, who called himself Dr. Chung, the
famous cardiologist with the two pound diet (just eat two pounds of food
a day, doesn't matter what it is). He changed his name/address every
week. The only way I could block him was by KFing every post that was
cross-posted to sci.med.cardiology, which he *always* included.

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Dan Abel wrote:


> Many of us will remember Mr. Chung, who called himself Dr. Chung, the
> famous cardiologist with the two pound diet (just eat two pounds of
> food a day, doesn't matter what it is). He changed his name/address
> every week. The only way I could block him was by KFing every post
> that was cross-posted to sci.med.cardiology, which he always included.

That's why it used to irritate me when certain posters here would
respond to those message and delete the crossposts. That was triple
dumb. First of all, replying to him at all. Then removing the group
that he reads, meaning he probably wouldn't see it. Finally (and most
importantly because it involves ME) defeating my filters.





Brian

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On Fri, 8 Feb 2008 12:12:31 GMT, Janet Baraclough
> wrote:

>The message >
>from Dan Abel > contains these words:
>
>
>> Many of us will remember Mr. Chung, who called himself Dr. Chung, the
>> famous cardiologist with the two pound diet (just eat two pounds of food
>> a day, doesn't matter what it is). He changed his name/address every
>> week. The only way I could block him was by KFing every post that was
>> cross-posted to sci.med.cardiology, which he *always* included.
>
>On this newsreader I would have got rid of him by adjusting my
>newsreader to delete any message with more than (x) crossposted groups
>in the header.
>
> Janet

that's the main reason i use newsproxy, which pre-filters things
before they get to agent's filters (which as far as i can tell, can't
do the 'more than x crossposted' filter). it's a very handy filter.

your pal,
blake

On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 00:45:12 -0500, "Dee.Dee" >
wrote:

>
>Do you think the computer will delete all postings from the same poster even
>if they have a different posting name.

If the different posting names use the same address, yes. If not -
you'll need to KF every persona.

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In article >,
"Dee.Dee" > wrote:

> This is kinda puzzling to me.
>
> When one blocks a sender and the sender has been a avid poster, it takes a
> moment to delete all of their previous posts, after you have clicked that
> you wish all of the previous posts to be deleted.
>
> Do you think the computer will delete all postings from the same poster even
> if they have a different posting name.

I think the computer will do what you tell it. If you block somebody,
and they take out a gmail account with a different name and address,
they won't be blocked. If they change their name every day, but keep
the same Email address, then if you block by Email address, they will be
blocked.

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"Dan Abel" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "Dee.Dee" > wrote:
>
>> This is kinda puzzling to me.
>>
>> When one blocks a sender and the sender has been a avid poster, it takes
>> a
>> moment to delete all of their previous posts, after you have clicked that
>> you wish all of the previous posts to be deleted.
>>
>> Do you think the computer will delete all postings from the same poster
>> even
>> if they have a different posting name.
>
> I think the computer will do what you tell it. If you block somebody,
> and they take out a gmail account with a different name and address,
> they won't be blocked. If they change their name every day, but keep
> the same Email address, then if you block by Email address, they will be
> blocked.
>
> --
> Dan Abel
> Petaluma, California USA


And, it won't block all the angry messages written *to* the offending
sender, unless the software offers that option. Often, those messages are
far more numerous than the one from the sender, so you're still seeing the
same subject line, and loads of messages anyway.

On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 07:17:24 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
> wrote:

>And, it won't block all the angry messages written *to* the offending
>sender, unless the software offers that option. Often, those messages are
>far more numerous than the one from the sender, so you're still seeing the
>same subject line, and loads of messages anyway.

Hello? Block the subject in that case. It's not that interesting if
those messages are just annoying you.

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<sf> wrote in message ...
> On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 07:17:24 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
> > wrote:
>
>>And, it won't block all the angry messages written *to* the offending
>>sender, unless the software offers that option. Often, those messages are
>>far more numerous than the one from the sender, so you're still seeing the
>>same subject line, and loads of messages anyway.
>
> Hello? Block the subject in that case. It's not that interesting if
> those messages are just annoying you.


I really don't care that much. But, blocking the subject won't block
subsequent new threads begun by the offending parties.

On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 17:27:36 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
> wrote:

><sf> wrote in message ...
>> On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 07:17:24 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>And, it won't block all the angry messages written *to* the offending
>>>sender, unless the software offers that option. Often, those messages are
>>>far more numerous than the one from the sender, so you're still seeing the
>>>same subject line, and loads of messages anyway.
>>
>> Hello? Block the subject in that case. It's not that interesting if
>> those messages are just annoying you.
>
>
>I really don't care that much. But, blocking the subject won't block
>subsequent new threads begun by the offending parties.
>
Your skin is that *thin*???? I think not.


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sf wrote:

> On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 07:17:24 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
> > wrote:
>
> > And, it won't block all the angry messages written to the offending
> > sender, unless the software offers that option. Often, those
> > messages are far more numerous than the one from the sender, so
> > you're still seeing the same subject line, and loads of messages
> > anyway.
>
> Hello? Block the subject in that case. It's not that interesting if
> those messages are just annoying you.

One way to do it is to create a filter to search the message body. That
will usually work as long as the respondant left in the attribution
line. Body filters tend to slow loading significantly if you load
entire messages (and won't work if you only download headers).





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"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 07:17:24 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>
>> And, it won't block all the angry messages written *to* the offending
>> sender, unless the software offers that option. Often, those messages are
>> far more numerous than the one from the sender, so you're still seeing
>> the
>> same subject line, and loads of messages anyway.
>
> Some newsreaders can block a sender and any replies that come
> after that in that sub-thread. Useful for things like the
> Peter-Ofelia thread, and a couple of the people who like to have
> a useless battle of non-cooking wits between one other
> participant.
>
> -sw


:-)


For mail messages, OE can filter based on words contained in the message
body, but only for mail, not news messages. That would be handy assuming
nobody had edited out the offending party's name. I keep meaning to hunt
around for something better, but the way OE displays watched and unwatched
threads is damned near perfect, as far as I'm concerned. And, I want a
program that handles both email and newsgroups, and can monitor multiple
email addresses without having to set up different user profiles. So, here I
am.

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 07:56:36 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>
>> For mail messages, OE can filter based on words contained in the message
>> body, but only for mail, not news messages. That would be handy assuming
>> nobody had edited out the offending party's name. I keep meaning to hunt
>> around for something better, but the way OE displays watched and
>> unwatched
>> threads is damned near perfect, as far as I'm concerned. And, I want a
>> program that handles both email and newsgroups, and can monitor multiple
>> email addresses without having to set up different user profiles. So,
>> here I
>> am.
>
> Have I mentioned 40tude Dialog? Yes - I think I have ;-) One of
> the best features is that any threads that you've contributed to
> can be automatically watched, and any responses to your posts can
> be automatically highlighted in another color.
>
> It also allows multiple identities and servers for mail and
> newsgroups.
>
> It's tough moving to a new newsreader and/or mail client but once
> you bear with it for a day or three, you realize how much a great
> investment it was to switch. Most people just don't want to
> invest the time and are stuck in their ways.
>
> -sw


Thanks. I'll check it out as soon as their web site gets over whatever
issues it's having at the moment.

On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 08:09:43 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
> wrote:

>"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
>> On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 07:56:36 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>
>>> For mail messages, OE can filter based on words contained in the message
>>> body, but only for mail, not news messages. That would be handy assuming
>>> nobody had edited out the offending party's name. I keep meaning to hunt
>>> around for something better, but the way OE displays watched and
>>> unwatched
>>> threads is damned near perfect, as far as I'm concerned. And, I want a
>>> program that handles both email and newsgroups, and can monitor multiple
>>> email addresses without having to set up different user profiles. So,
>>> here I
>>> am.
>>
>> Have I mentioned 40tude Dialog? Yes - I think I have ;-) One of
>> the best features is that any threads that you've contributed to
>> can be automatically watched, and any responses to your posts can
>> be automatically highlighted in another color.
>>
>> It also allows multiple identities and servers for mail and
>> newsgroups.
>>
>> It's tough moving to a new newsreader and/or mail client but once
>> you bear with it for a day or three, you realize how much a great
>> investment it was to switch. Most people just don't want to
>> invest the time and are stuck in their ways.
>>
>> -sw
>
>
>Thanks. I'll check it out as soon as their web site gets over whatever
>issues it's having at the moment.
>
If there's a single person on this ng who knows about alternate
personas and multiple addresses, it's sw. He's always circumventing
kill files.

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"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
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> On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 08:23:22 GMT, Sqwertz wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 08:09:43 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks. I'll check it out as soon as their web site gets over whatever
>>> issues it's having at the moment.
>>
>> It's been down for 36 hours or so, for some reason. I have a
>> copy of the Dialog package he
>>
>> ftp://ftpput.sco.com/incoming/4d2b38.exe
>> (That directory gets erased every night around midnight or so)
>
> Looks like they're onto me and have changed the permissions opn
> that directory.
>
> If anybody needs it, just email me.
>

Or get it here

http://www.download.com/40tude-Dialo...-10771271.html

Sqwertz wrote:
>
> Have I mentioned 40tude Dialog? Yes - I think I have ;-)
>
Ahem. Yes you have. It's not available for Linux, AFAIAA. Is it purely for
news, or does it do email too? I would ideally like something that handles
both...

> One of the best features is that any threads that you've contributed to
> can be automatically watched, and any responses to your posts can
> be automatically highlighted in another color.
>
> It also allows multiple identities and servers for mail and
> newsgroups.
>
Well KNode (which you also mentioned to me once or twice) does all of the
above too - and the filtering is pretty good in general. However, the GUI
reminds me of a Christmas tree (but I think I may have mentioned that a few
times too :-P). BTW, it also allows for easy customization of additional
headers (remember the WebTV thing?) and a few other nice bells and
whistles.

> It's tough moving to a new newsreader and/or mail client but once
> you bear with it for a day or three, you realize how much a great
> investment it was to switch. Most people just don't want to
> invest the time and are stuck in their ways.

You have a point about changing newsreaders being a 'schlep'. Old farts like
me are a prime example. However the one thing that KNode doesn't show is
the total number of messages in a thread. Which to me is a 'must'. Even TB
has that. Well, the stand-alone version of KNode I have, which I have been
messing with again for a week or three, doesn't have that feature (or I am
just too dumb to find it). It shows how many unread posts there are in a
thread, and you can switch on the number of lines per post, and the scoring
etc. Think they may have "upgraded" it by now, as I have seen an
email/newsreader "suite" now available called Kontact or something on the
KDE site, but I haven't gotten around to downloading and fiddling with
it... yet.

OBFood: Probably chicken soup. Got a "summer cold" coming on... sigh.
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"ChattyCathy" > wrote in message
...

> However the one thing that KNode doesn't show is
> the total number of messages in a thread. Which to me is a 'must'.

Why is it a must?

Sqwertz wrote:

> On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 07:58:57 GMT, Sqwertz wrote:
>
>> It also allows multiple identities and servers for mail and
>> newsgroups.
>
> Oh - and it has full filtering capabilities - as much as any
> standalone news client could possibly have at the client level.
>
> -sw

<Memo to self - read the rest of the thread before asking certain questions>
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On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 11:11:11 +0200, ChattyCathy
> wrote:

>Sqwertz wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 07:58:57 GMT, Sqwertz wrote:
>>
>>> It also allows multiple identities and servers for mail and
>>> newsgroups.
>>
>> Oh - and it has full filtering capabilities - as much as any
>> standalone news client could possibly have at the client level.
>>
>> -sw
>
><Memo to self - read the rest of the thread before asking certain questions>

NO, no, no. It makes it too boring to read an entire thread just to
post a reply. When there are many replies after the post that
interests you, yours probably will just be akin to a me too.

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On Feb 5, 9:45*pm, "Dee.Dee" > wrote:
> This is kinda puzzling to me.
>
> When one blocks a sender and the sender has been a avid poster, it takes a
> moment to delete all of their previous posts, after you have clicked that
> you wish all of the previous posts to be deleted.
>
> Do you think the computer will delete all postings from the same poster even
> if they have a different posting name.
>
> Dee Dee

Dee Dee- I finally posted the amaretti recipe for you last night, but
is it invisible to you since you have Google blocked? It was truly a
PIA to type, & I'd hate that you didn't see it!

"merryb" > wrote in message
...
On Feb 5, 9:45 pm, "Dee.Dee" > wrote:
> This is kinda puzzling to me.
>
> When one blocks a sender and the sender has been a avid poster, it takes a
> moment to delete all of their previous posts, after you have clicked that
> you wish all of the previous posts to be deleted.
>
> Do you think the computer will delete all postings from the same poster
> even
> if they have a different posting name.


>
> Dee Dee

Dee Dee- I finally posted the amaretti recipe for you last night, but
is it invisible to you since you have Google blocked? It was truly a
PIA to type, & I'd hate that you didn't see it!


Merryb, I posted an anwer of thanks for your recipe "from" Google just now.
I subscribe there, so I don't know what's wrong.
If you read from there, you will see it.

Kindest regards,
dee Dee

On Feb 8, 6:16*pm, "Dee.Dee" > wrote:
> "merryb" > wrote in message
>
> ...
> On Feb 5, 9:45 pm, "Dee.Dee" > wrote:
>
> > This is kinda puzzling to me.
>
> > When one blocks a sender and the sender has been a avid poster, it takes a
> > moment to delete all of their previous posts, after you have clicked that
> > you wish all of the previous posts to be deleted.
>
> > Do you think the computer will delete all postings from the same poster
> > even
> > if they have a different posting name.
>
> > Dee Dee
>
> Dee Dee- I finally posted the amaretti recipe for you last night, but
> is it invisible to you since you have Google blocked? It was truly a
> PIA to type, & I'd hate that you didn't see it!
>
> Merryb, I posted an anwer of thanks for your recipe "from" Google just now..
> I subscribe there, so I don't know what's wrong.
> If you read from there, you will see it.
>
> Kindest regards,
> dee Dee

Got it- I'm glad you saw it. Thanks you for your thank you!

"merryb" > wrote in message
...
On Feb 8, 6:16 pm, "Dee.Dee" > wrote:
> "merryb" > wrote in message
>
> ...
> On Feb 5, 9:45 pm, "Dee.Dee" > wrote:
>
> > This is kinda puzzling to me.
>
> > When one blocks a sender and the sender has been a avid poster, it takes
> > a
> > moment to delete all of their previous posts, after you have clicked
> > that
> > you wish all of the previous posts to be deleted.
>
> > Do you think the computer will delete all postings from the same poster
> > even
> > if they have a different posting name.
>
> > Dee Dee
>
> Dee Dee- I finally posted the amaretti recipe for you last night, but
> is it invisible to you since you have Google blocked? It was truly a
> PIA to type, & I'd hate that you didn't see it!
>
> Merryb, I posted an anwer of thanks for your recipe "from" Google just
> now.
> I subscribe there, so I don't know what's wrong.
> If you read from there, you will see it.
>
> Kindest regards,
> dee Dee

Got it- I'm glad you saw it. Thanks you for your thank you!


And as one poster a few years back said; I will never forget so pass it
along,
"Thank you for your unspoken thanks."
I love that.

Dee Dee