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i tried one. it was bitter. yuck.
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Right Across Left Hook Combo wrote:
> i tried one. it was bitter. yuck. Squirrels certainly like them! But seriously, North American Indians often used acorns to make a flour. Check this web-site for details: http://www.yvwiiusdinvnohii.net/NAIFood/acorns.htm Here are a few of the recipes posted the Acorn Stew To make stew, you will need the following: 1 lb stewing beef 1/2 C finely ground acorn meal (tannin removed) Salt and pepper to taste Place beef in heavy pan and add water to cover. Cover with lid and simmer until very tender. Remove from liquid and cut meat into very fine pieces. Return meat to the liquid. Stir in the acorn meal. Add salt and pepper as desired. Heat until thickened and serve. Here is a modern Acorn Bread recipe from the book "Cooking with Spirit, - North American Indian Food and Fact", By Darcy Williamson and Lisa Railsback Copyright 1987 by Darcy Williamson. Published by Maverick Publications, Drawer 5007, Bend, Oregon 97701. Acorn Bread To make bread, you will need the following: 6 Tbl. cornmeal 1/2 C cold water 1 C boiling water 1 tsp sale 1 Tbl butter 1 pkg active dry yeast 1/4 C lukewarm water 1 C mashed potatoes 2 C all-purpose flour 2 C finely ground leached acorn meal Mix cornmeal with cold water, add boiling water and cook 2 minutes, stirring constantly. Add sale and butter and cool to lukewarm. Soften yeast in lukewarm water. Add remaining ingredients to corn mixture, along with yeast. Knead to a stiff dough. Dough will be sticky. Cover and let rise in warm place until doubled in bulk. Punch down, shape into two loaves, cover and let rise until doubled in bulk. Bake at 375 degrees F for 45 minutes. Jill |
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Right Across Left Hook Combo wrote:
> i tried one. it was bitter. yuck. http://www.edibleplants.com/month/oak.htm --Charlene -- THE COW The cow is of the bovine ilk; One end is moo, the other, milk. --Ogden Nash, Free Wheeling, 1931 -- email perronnelle at earthlink . net |
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![]() "Right Across Left Hook Combo" > wrote in message om... > i tried one. it was bitter. yuck. My dog is crazy about them. She will eat two or three when we go for a walk and seems to pick through them. Perhaps some taste good and some taste bad and her nose can segregate them. |
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On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:25:03 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
> Squirrels certainly like them! But seriously, North American Indians often > used acorns to make a flour. Check this web-site for details: They were ground and used as a coffee substitute in Germany during WWII. To remove the bitter chemicals, just soak them for around 24 hours in water (keep changing the water until it doesn't colour anymore). Then you can either roast&grind them for coffee, or puree as abasis for vegetable pates and dips etc. I must admit I've never tried them myself. -- Tim. If the human brain were simple enough that we could understand it, we would be so simple that we couldn't. |
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>i tried one. it was bitter. yuck.
> You have to grind them up, boil them in water to remove the bitter tanins, and strain them. Then they taste fine; a bit bland, though. Neil |
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Acorns are very high in tannin. They have to be prepared properly for use.
Check this site. http://www.foodreference.com/html/facorns.html -- Helen Thanks be unto God for His wonderful gift: Jesus Christ, the only begotten Son of God is the object of our faith; the only faith that saves is faith in Him <>< www.peagramfamily.com http://www.mompeagram.homestead.com/ 225/205/145 "Right Across Left Hook Combo" > wrote in message om... > i tried one. it was bitter. yuck. |
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![]() > i tried one. it was bitter. yuck. that's cuz of the tannic acid content. you CAN make cookies and breads from acorns as well as other goodies...below are some, as well the "how to" of taking care of that tannic acid: Acorn To Shell: Acorns are best shelled with a nutcracker or a pair of pliers. Simply grip each nut the long way and pinch, then grip it the short way and pinch. Presto! Out pops the clean, white kernel. To Grind: Put a cup of shelled acorns in a blender, fill the blender's container up with water and whiz away at high speed for a minute or two. To Leach: Pour the acorn pulp into a dish towel lined colander. Place the colander under slow running water and work the pulp around with your hand for about five minutes. The water now runs clear. Taste the meal. If bitter, continue rinsing. The meal should taste rather bland. Press out the excess liquid and store in the refrigerator or freeze until ready to use. To Use: The possibilities are endless! Add acorn meal to mush, stew, or soup. Use it in turkey dressing. Substitute acorn meal for corn meal or use it to replace part of the flour called for by your favorite bread, cake or cookie recipe. If you do substitute, cut down a bit on the usual amount of liquid and shortening, as the acorn meal is high in both vegetable oil and water ACORN POUND CAKE: 1 cup sugar 2 eggs 1/2 cup acorn meal 1/8 tsp. salt 1/8 tsp. cream of tartar 1/4 tsp. soda 1/4 cup of milk 1/2 teaspoon of vanilla Blend sugar, eggs and acorn meal together in a bowl. In another bowl, sift salt cream of tartar and soda Stir the second mixture into the first (a small amount at a time) alternately with milk. Add vanilla and beat well. Pour into an oiled and floured circular pan (8 inch in diameter) and bake at 350 : for about 1 hour. No need to make frosting ====================================== Acorn Bread Acorn Snacks Acorn Coffee Acorn Bread 1 cup Acorn meal 1 cup Flour 2 Tbsp Baking powder 1/2 tsp Salt 3 Tbsp Sugar 1 Egg, beaten 1 cup Milk 3 Tbsp Oil Sift together, acorn meal, white flour, baking powder, salt and sugar. In separate bowl, mix together egg, milk, and oil. Combine dry ingredients and liquid ingredients. Stir just enough to moisten dry ingredients. Pour into a greased pan and bake at 400F. for 30 minutes. Acorn Snacks 3 cups water 4 large garlic cloves, minced 1/4 cup lemon juice 6-8 Tbsp curry powder 1 heaping Qt (already processed to get the tannins out) ACORNS 2 Tbsp olive oil 1 tsp seasoned salt Boil 2 1/2 cups water. while this boils put another 1/2 cup of water in blender w/ garlic, lemon juice, and 1/4 cup curry powder. Blend till smooth. Add this to boiling water along w/ acorns. simmer for 5 minutes.drain acorns and in baking dish, mix them w/ olive oil, salt, and the rest of the curry powder. Roast at 300 for 45-90 min. stirring often, till acorns are dry and well roasted, but not hard. Acorn Coffee acorns cracked wheat water Select plump, round, sweet acorns. Shell and brown in oven. Grind in a coffee mill and use as ordinary coffee. Hull out a half cup of small acorns. Add a half cup cracked wheat. Mix. Roast in your oven. Pound in a mortar. Boil with water to get your coffee. Add honey, molasses, or brown sugar to sweeten. ========================================= Acorn Meal Acorn Bread Acorn Stew Acorn Griddle Cakes Acorn Meal Acorns Water Make meal by grinding dry, raw acorn kernels (after shelling). Mix with boiling water and press out liquid through a cheesecloth. With very bitter acorns, repeat this process several times. Spread meal on a tray and thoroughly dry in oven at 250F. This meal will cake during the drying process. Regrind using a food chopper. Then, seal in containers, preferably glass jars. Note: All acorns contain tannic acid or tannin. This is what causes the bitter taste, the same as the soft brown lining in pecans that we have all tasted if we have cracked open pecans and eaten them raw. The white oak family has less tannin than the black oak family. The white oak family acorns I have tried are White Oak, Burr Oak, and Club Oak. There are many varieties. White oaks have rounded leaves. Black oaks have pointed leaves. Squirrels go for white oak acorns first. They're not dumb. They don't like the tannin either. Black oak acorns will make you pucker up just like eating unripe persimmons. Acorn Bread 1 cup Acorn meal 1 cup Flour 2 Tbsp Baking powder 1/2 tsp Salt 3 Tbsp Sugar 1 Egg, beaten 1 cup Milk 3 Tbsp Oil Sift together, acorn meal, white flour, baking powder, salt and sugar. In separate bowl, mix together egg, milk, and oil. Combine dry ingredients and liquid ingredients. Stir just enough to moisten dry ingredients. Pour into a greased pan and bake at 400F. for 30 minutes. Acorn Stew 2 1/2 lb Stew meat, cubed 1 1/2 qt Water, or more as needed 2 large Onions, coarsely chopped -Salt and pepper to taste 2 3 pounds acorns (enough to make 1 cup of acorn meal) Place meat into a pot with water and onions. Bring to boil, reduce heat and simmer for 3-4 hours or until meat is very tender. Add more water if necessary. There should be about 3 cups of broth when meat has been cooked. Add salt and pepper to taste, and keep the stew warm. Shell the acorns and grind them in food processor or blender into a very fine meal. With a slotted spoon remove the meat and onions from the pot and place into a glass bowl. Add the acorn meal to the broth and blend well. Bring the broth to boil; pour it over the meat mixture and blend well. Adjust seasoning by adding more salt and pepper if desired. Serve immediately with Indian Fry Bread. Serves 6. Acorn Griddle Cakes 2/3 cup finely ground leached acorn meal 1/3 cup unbleached flour 1 tsp. baking powder 1/3 tsp. salt 1 Tbsp honey 1 egg, beaten 3/4 cup milk 3 Tbsp melted butter Combine dry ingredients. Mix together egg and milk, then beat into dry ingredients, forming a smooth batter. Add butter. Drop batter onto hot, greased griddle. Bake, turning each cake when it is browned on underside and puffed and slightly set on top. Makes 12 to 15. ======================================== Traditional Venison Acorn Stew Acorn Stew Acorn Bread Acorn Griddle Cakes Acorn Mush Traditional Venison Acorn Stew 2 lbs venison, cut up 1 Cup finely ground acorn meal Cover venison with water in pot or basket; Add hot rocks to simmer until meat almost falls apart. Remove meat from broth and chop into fine pieces. Return to pot with liquid and stir in acorn meal. Serve hot. Acorn Stew 1 lb stewing beef 1/2 cup finely ground acorn meal (tannin removed) Salt and pepper to taste Place beef in heavy pan and add water to cover. Cover with lid and simmer until very tender. Remove from liquid and cut meat into very fine pieces. Return meat to the liquid. Stir in the acorn meal. Add salt and pepper as desired. Heat until thickened and serve. Ethnic food enthusiasts like to substitute acorn meal for corn meal when making muffins -- usually using 1/2 corn meal and 1/2 acorn. Some have substituted 1/2 of the flour in a biscuit recipe with 1/2 acorn meal. Experiment carefully, remembering that a good portion of the work performed by flour has to do with the gluten in the floor. Acorn has no gluten, so you'll have to keep this in mind. Acorn Bread 6 Tbsp. cornmeal 1/2 cup cold water 1 cup boiling water 1 tsp sale 1 Tbsp butter 1 pkg active dry yeast 1/4 cup lukewarm water 1 cup mashed potatoes 2 cup all-purpose flour 2 cup finely ground leached acorn meal Mix cornmeal with cold water, add boiling water and cook 2 minutes, stirring constantly. Add sale and butter and cool to lukewarm. Soften yeast in lukewarm water. Add remaining ingredients to corn mixture, along with yeast. Knead to a stiff dough. Dough will be sticky. Cover and let rise in warm place until doubled in bulk. Punch down, shape into two loaves, cover and let rise until doubled in bulk. Bake at 375 degrees F for 45 minutes. A modern Acorn Bread recipe from the book "Cooking with Spirit, - North American Indian Food and Fact", By Darcy Williamson and Lisa Railsback Acorn Griddle Cakes 2/3 cup finely ground leached acorn meal 1/3 cup unbleached flour 1 tsp. baking powder 1/3 tsp. salt 1 Tbsp honey 1 egg, beaten 3/4 cup milk 3 Tbsp melted butter Combine dry ingredients. Mix together egg and milk, then beat into dry ingredients, forming a smooth batter. Add butter. Drop batter onto hot, greased griddle. Bake, turning each cake when it is browned on underside and puffed and slightly set on top. Makes 12 to 15. Recipes found at http://www.yvwiiusdinvnohii.net/NAIFood/acorns.htm Acorn Mush Black oak acorns Water Cooking basket Fire pit Hot rocks Tongs Harvest the acorns in the fall, dry well Shell and pick off the red skin on the acorn (like a peanut skin) Find a nice acorn pounding rock or a heavy duty bowl. With a good sized basalt pestle pound away till the acorn is a fairly fine grain/powder. **Important** After pounding the acorns, you MUST leach them to remove the tannin. Make a sand volcano, flatten the top and make a rim around the edge. Cover with cheesecloth. Place a thin layer of acorn over the cheesecloth and using a pine needle branch as a water breaker. carefully pour cold water over the acorn. The water will seep through fairly quickly. After a few leaches, taste a bit of the acorn and if the bitterness has gone away, then it is ok. In the meantime, make a fire pit and heat the rocks up. Note: (you gotta have the right kind of rocks!) Get the cooking basket and put in the pounded acorn. Add water about 2 to 1 ration. Using two poles as tongs or an antler, reach out a rock and quickly dip it in fresh water to get the ash off then place it in the acorn/water cooking basket. Get another rock. Repeat till the acorn is cooked. (about 5 minutes) take out the colder rocks. Note: if you stir the basket up with the rocks you'll wear it out. Just turn the rock. Servings:Two Offered by Cindy ~ Passamaquoddy ~ ....who notes the recipe has Miwok origins. Recipe found at http://www.nativetech.org/food/acorn.html -- §Greenings from http://www.endor.com/~poppy/index.html |
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> My dog is crazy about them. > She will eat two or three when we go for a walk and > seems to pick through them. Perhaps some taste > good and some taste bad and her nose can segregate them. > > please be very careful with your doggy. doggies can be harmed by tannin acid as well as humans. -- When God measures a man, he puts the tape around the heart instead of the head. - Anonymous http://www.endor.com/~poppy/index.html |
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Charlene Charette writes:
>THE COW >The cow is of the bovine ilk; >One end is moo, the other, milk. >--Ogden Nash, Free Wheeling, 1931 Ogden Nash doesn't know shit from an udder. Actually milk is in the middle. ---= BOYCOTT FRENCH--GERMAN (belgium) =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- Sheldon ```````````` "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." |
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![]() >Soak them in what? Please. >Jerry with a lot of oak trees. JUst grind the nuts into a meal and soak the meal in water changing it every hour until the water runs clear |
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There are oak trees with edible acorns. The description for Quercus
garryana (Oregon White Oak) reads as follows: Good for zones US 7 - 9. Rounded, deciduous tree with cracked, pale gray bark. Glossy, dark green leaves. Bears sweet, edible acorns. Mature tree can reach 30 ft tall and spread to 30 ft wide. Native to Western North America. I have two growing in 5 gallon buckets but they are only two foot tall so I won't be able to vouch for the taste any time soon. Perhaps someone from the Northwest US will chime in here. Ken Lopez PS. For those interested, I bought my seeds from seedman.com two years ago. __________ "Ken" > wrote in message ... > (Right Across Left Hook Combo) wrote in message . com>... > > i tried one. it was bitter. yuck. > > > I have been told that acorn noodles are very traditional in Korea. > And I have a friend who uses the acorns from his property to make > acorn muffins and pancakes. Very edible, just soak them as everyone > has said. > > Ken |
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ACORNS CAN BE EATEN IF THEY ARE BOILED FOR ABOUT THREE HOURS.
Then soaked for nother 3 hrs to remove any external Tannins, They ARE "NUTS" and the "Fruit of the Oak Tree" Then they need ROASTING for about 30 minutes at 50 degrees. Thay can made into a "meal" and added to other things such a soups. Lots of luck and enjoy the "mainstay" of some ancient peoples. Of course their life spans were rarely over 42 yrs! No comment here..B-0b1 Gypsy-go-lightly wrote: > > > > My dog is crazy about them. > > She will eat two or three when we go for a walk and > > seems to pick through them. Perhaps some taste > > good and some taste bad and her nose can segregate them. > > > > > please be very careful with your doggy. doggies can be harmed by tannin > acid as well as humans. > -- > When God measures a man, > he puts the tape around the heart instead of the head. > - Anonymous > http://www.endor.com/~poppy/index.html -- "Beaten Paths are for Beaten People". -- Anon. |
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Actually TODAY's "MILK" being HOMOGENIZED and Micronizing the deadly
H-O Enzyme so it does NOT pass through the body due to its' natural large size. it incysts into venal flesh and causes deadly damage. (over 1 million Autopsies do NOT Lie!!! ) Millions of SIDS Babies also are moot evidence of the LIES being told by UNCLE!~~ And WICK insists that ONLY Homo milk be bought for babies??? . ..I do NOT agree If anyone IS interested in HOW the NEW Cow;s milk can be made SAFE as well as sweeter and Longer lasting..I'd be gald to write an article and procedure for doing so. It's EASY! B-0b1 PENMART01 wrote: > Charlene Charette writes: > > >THE COW > >The cow is of the bovine ilk; > >One end is moo, the other, milk. > >--Ogden Nash, Free Wheeling, 1931 > > Ogden Nash doesn't know shit from an udder. > > Actually milk is in the middle. > > ---= BOYCOTT FRENCH--GERMAN (belgium) =--- > ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- > Sheldon > ```````````` > "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." > -- "Beaten Paths are for Beaten People". -- Anon. |
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