From the local paper this morning (pretty silly), two women got into a
heated argument over the sale of Girl Scout cookies. Apparently there is a
"cookie chairman" (LOL) who is in charge of saying where GS cookies can and
cannot be sold, and this flea market wasn't one of them. She showed up to
play enforcer and it went downhill from there.

http://www.beaufortgazette.com/local/story/195416.html

/Small Rant ON
There were no actual Girl Scouts there to help sell the cookies. I thought
the whole point, aside from fundraising of course, was for the Scouts to do
the selling rather than their parents? The same thing bugs me about parents
bringing order sheets to the office to sell candy, wrapping paper, etc. for
their kids. I understand not wanting kids to go door-to-door alone these
days. So go with them; don't do the "job" for them.

And don't put your co-workers on the spot. I always felt if I ordered from
one person I'd have to order from everyone. You can't exactly pick and
choose without hurting someone's feelings or, god forbid, having someone
think you like one kid better than another. Never mind the fact I'd never
met any of their kids...
/Small Rant OFF

GS Thin Mints are good and the Trefoils are nice buttery shortbread cookies
If I spot a Scout selling cookies in an "authorized" location I'll pick
up some for my dad.

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
. ..
> From the local paper this morning (pretty silly), two women got into a
> heated argument over the sale of Girl Scout cookies. Apparently there is
> a "cookie chairman" (LOL) who is in charge of saying where GS cookies can
> and cannot be sold, and this flea market wasn't one of them. She showed
> up to play enforcer and it went downhill from there.
>
> http://www.beaufortgazette.com/local/story/195416.html



Every town should have a fake church, but it should be set up with various
committees on which scout twits can serve. Keep them away from children and
out of trouble. Supply them with swords, though.

jmcquown > wrote in message
. ..
> From the local paper this morning (pretty silly), two
> women got into a heated argument over the sale of
> Girl Scout cookies. Apparently there is a "cookie
> chairman" (LOL) who is in charge of saying where
> GS cookies can and cannot be sold, and this flea
> market wasn't one of them. She showed up to play enforcer
> and it went downhill from there.

The cookie chair is the organizer and usually someone of rank
within the GS organization. They are in charge of that area's
cookie/candy/whatever fund-raiser. A parent that has the
attitude that they want to win the "most sold" prize is a
danger to that area's program and the chair is the one that has
to contain that unbridled attitude. I've seen a similar
collision here when a parent tried to jump the gun and sell
cookie orders (without the daughter -- hello!) at a local
grocery store.

You. Don't. Do. That.

> /Small Rant ON
> "I don't buy at work!"
>/Small Rant OFF

I also have a real issue with parents bringing crap to sell for
their kids at work. When approached, I'd simply ask them what
they thought they were teaching their son or daughter by doing
everything for them. After a while, the solicitors stopped
shilling and hawking like open market merchants. At my last
job, the CEO had an open dislike of any parents actively
selling things and the email from him was titled
"Why-my-sprog's-got-to-come-in-first-with-this-fundraiser." No
one hawked anything in the halls after that.

> GS Thin Mints and good and Trefoils are nice
> buttery shortbread cookies [..]

Minor correction: Thin Mints are shortbread cookies covered in
milk chocolate mint and Trefoils are milk chocolate mints (no
shortbread). Both are delicious and addictive.

The Ranger

The Ranger wrote:
>
>
> I also have a real issue with parents bringing crap to sell for
> their kids at work. When approached, I'd simply ask them what
> they thought they were teaching their son or daughter by doing
> everything for them. After a while, the solicitors stopped
> shilling and hawking like open market merchants. At my last
> job, the CEO had an open dislike of any parents actively
> selling things and the email from him was titled
> "Why-my-sprog's-got-to-come-in-first-with-this-fundraiser." No
> one hawked anything in the halls after that.
>
>> GS Thin Mints and good and Trefoils are nice
>> buttery shortbread cookies [..]
>
> Minor correction: Thin Mints are shortbread cookies covered in
> milk chocolate mint and Trefoils are milk chocolate mints (no
> shortbread). Both are delicious and addictive.
>
> The Ranger
>
>

Trefoils are shortbread.

http://www.littlebrowniebakers.com/c.../trefoils.html


-Tracy

"Tracy" > wrote in message ...
>
>
> The Ranger wrote:
>>
>>
>>> GS Thin Mints and good and Trefoils are nice
>>> buttery shortbread cookies [..]
>>
>> Minor correction: Thin Mints are shortbread cookies covered in milk
>> chocolate mint and Trefoils are milk chocolate mints (no shortbread).
>> Both are delicious and addictive.
>>
>> The Ranger
>
> Trefoils are shortbread.
>
> http://www.littlebrowniebakers.com/c.../trefoils.html
>
>
> -Tracy
>

Thanks, Tracy! I thought I was losing my mind, but then again I haven't
been a Girl Scout since the 1960's LOL

Jill

Tracy > wrote in message
...
>>> GS Thin Mints and good and Trefoils are nice
>>> buttery shortbread cookies [..]
>>>
>> Minor correction: Thin Mints are shortbread cookies covered
>> in milk chocolate mint and Trefoils are milk chocolate mints
>> (no shortbread). Both are delicious and addictive.
>>
> Trefoils are shortbread.
>
> http://www.littlebrowniebakers.com/c.../trefoils.html
>
I've got a box right in front of me: There ain't no cookie in
it. There are two layers of milk chocolate sandwiching a nice
layer of mint.

It took some significant digging on my local's site but here ya
go:
http://www.girlscoutsofscc.org/cooki...varieties.html

You can't eat just one.

The Ranger

jmcquown > wrote in message
. ..
[snip]
> Thanks, Tracy! I thought I was losing my mind,

This is still possible.


> but then again I haven't been a Girl Scout
> since the 1960's LOL

Each geography is allowed to contract with a local
bakery/confectioner so some products /might/ be different or
not offered at all. Over in the TriValley, simply 26 miles away
and separated by a mountain pass, they have these lemon cookies
that are simply Duh-VINE! I have to smuggle 'em in from that
area under gunpoint because they're more valuable than a
plutonium rod. Who knew there was a black-market for GS
cookies?!

The Ranger

The Ranger wrote:
> Tracy > wrote in message
> ...
>>>> GS Thin Mints and good and Trefoils are nice
>>>> buttery shortbread cookies [..]
>>>>
>>> Minor correction: Thin Mints are shortbread cookies covered
>>> in milk chocolate mint and Trefoils are milk chocolate mints
>>> (no shortbread). Both are delicious and addictive.
>>>
>> Trefoils are shortbread.
>>
>> http://www.littlebrowniebakers.com/c.../trefoils.html
>>
> I've got a box right in front of me: There ain't no cookie in
> it. There are two layers of milk chocolate sandwiching a nice
> layer of mint.
>
> It took some significant digging on my local's site but here ya
> go:
> http://www.girlscoutsofscc.org/cooki...varieties.html
>
> You can't eat just one.
>
> The Ranger

Yeahbutt, those are called *mint* trefoils.....

;-)

-Tracy

The Ranger wrote:

> Each geography is allowed to contract with a local
> bakery/confectioner so some products /might/ be different or
> not offered at all. Over in the TriValley, simply 26 miles away
> and separated by a mountain pass, they have these lemon cookies
> that are simply Duh-VINE! I have to smuggle 'em in from that
> area under gunpoint because they're more valuable than a
> plutonium rod. Who knew there was a black-market for GS
> cookies?!
>
> The Ranger
>
>

You just reminded me of a favorite cookie that was discontinued a while
back. Sunshine Lemon Coolers.
I tried a copycat recipe but it wasn't even close.

-Tracy

In article >,
The Ranger > wrote:

>The cookie chair is the organizer and usually someone of rank
>within the GS organization. They are in charge of that area's
>cookie/candy/whatever fund-raiser. A parent that has the
>attitude that they want to win the "most sold" prize is a
>danger to that area's program and the chair is the one that has
>to contain that unbridled attitude. I've seen a similar
>collision here when a parent tried to jump the gun and sell
>cookie orders (without the daughter -- hello!)

<helicopter parent alert level == EXTREMELY ELEVATED>

>at a local grocery store.
>
>You. Don't. Do. That.
>
>> /Small Rant ON
>> "I don't buy at work!"
>>/Small Rant OFF
>
>I also have a real issue with parents bringing crap to sell for
>their kids at work. When approached, I'd simply ask them what
>they thought they were teaching their son or daughter by doing
>everything for them. After a while, the solicitors stopped
>shilling and hawking like open market merchants. At my last
>job, the CEO had an open dislike of any parents actively
>selling things and the email from him was titled
>"Why-my-sprog's-got-to-come-in-first-with-this-fundraiser." No
>one hawked anything in the halls after that.

Good Lord, did the parents actually buttonhole you in the halls? No
wonder boss-man got peeved. They sellin', they ain't doin' their day job.

At my last job, the Done Thing was to place signup sheets (or "the
pitch", or a supply and a can for payment) by the coffee pot, by the
fridge or micro in the kitchen/break room, and outside the parents'
cube. No buttonholing and no mass emailing - "soft sell". And the
parent who used department-wide email to do the selling would be Talked
To. (the email list got locked down, actually)

I'm still a bit crabby old-timer about having the parents help sell at
work, because I was expected to march around and do it myself, although I
understand that the time and place are different enough that you don't
send eight-year-olds out on their owneo ringing doorbells (even if you
think that people are home in the afternoon, as they generally were then).

I don't even remember being taken by my mom to sell in person at Dad's
office, Grandma's office, and Grandpa's club. (I remember a lot of visiting my
grandmother at her office but that was a regular stop for us - she worked
for the county and the library was in the same building!) OTOH, I don't
remember sitting at a card table in front of the grocery store, either .

n.b. I was a Bluebird/Campfire Girl (in my nabe, we ruled, the Girl Scouts
drooled) and sold mints (thin-mint style). I had them with me so
purchasers got instant gratification. I love mints so I was a good customer
of mine .

Charlotte


--

Tracy > wrote in message
...
> The Ranger wrote:
>
>> Each geography is allowed to contract with a local
>> bakery/confectioner so some products /might/ be different or
>> not offered at all. Over in the TriValley, simply 26 miles
>> away and separated by a mountain pass, they have these lemon
>> cookies that are simply Duh-VINE! I have to smuggle 'em in
>> from that area under gunpoint because they're more valuable
>> than a plutonium rod. Who knew there was a black-market for
>> GS cookies?!
>>
> You just reminded me of a favorite cookie that was
> discontinued
> a while back. Sunshine Lemon Coolers. I tried a copycat
> recipe
> but it wasn't even close.

I know! They newest addition kicked out my favorite lemon
cookies! The new cookie, a cinnamon travesty in 100 calorie
packets, SUCKSSUCKSSUCKS! Before that, someone actually thought
Pinwheels were good and replaced another long-term cookie that
I liked. Took two years to get Pinwheels removed from the
collective thud of no one purchasing them. (AWFUL tasting
cookies!)

I didn't think to try the copycat recipe site as a source...
Looks like a faulty memory might be beneficial finally.

The Ranger

jmcquown wrote:


> /Small Rant ON
> There were no actual Girl Scouts there to help sell the cookies. I
> thought the whole point, aside from fundraising of course, was for
> the Scouts to do the selling rather than their parents? The same
> thing bugs me about parents bringing order sheets to the office to
> sell candy, wrapping paper, etc. for their kids.

I don't have a problem with the GS cookie lists at work. The parents
just put them up and don't bug anybody. If it weren't for that, I'd
never get any. I haven't seen a kid at the door in 10 years.



Brian

--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

The Ranger wrote:
> Tracy > wrote in message
> ...
>> The Ranger wrote:
>>
>>> Each geography is allowed to contract with a local
>>> bakery/confectioner so some products /might/ be different or
>>> not offered at all. Over in the TriValley, simply 26 miles
>>> away and separated by a mountain pass, they have these lemon
>>> cookies that are simply Duh-VINE! I have to smuggle 'em in
>>> from that area under gunpoint because they're more valuable
>>> than a plutonium rod. Who knew there was a black-market for
>>> GS cookies?!
>>>
>> You just reminded me of a favorite cookie that was
>> discontinued
>> a while back. Sunshine Lemon Coolers. I tried a copycat
>> recipe
>> but it wasn't even close.
>
> I know! They newest addition kicked out my favorite lemon
> cookies! The new cookie, a cinnamon travesty in 100 calorie
> packets, SUCKSSUCKSSUCKS! Before that, someone actually thought
> Pinwheels were good and replaced another long-term cookie that
> I liked. Took two years to get Pinwheels removed from the
> collective thud of no one purchasing them. (AWFUL tasting
> cookies!)
>
> I didn't think to try the copycat recipe site as a source...
> Looks like a faulty memory might be beneficial finally.
>
> The Ranger
>
>

Totally Random...I just took a walk to run an errand - and guess what I
ran into. Girl Scouts selling cookies. Yes, real live Girl Scouts. They
had a table set up in the student union. Of course I bought some. They
are for my son. Mostly. Thin Mints, Caramel deLites, and something I
haven't had before Lemonades (lemon iced shortbread).

-Tracy

>> There were no actual Girl Scouts there to help sell the cookies. I
>> thought the whole point, aside from fundraising of course, was for
>> the Scouts to do the selling rather than their parents? The same
>> thing bugs me about parents bringing order sheets to the office to
>> sell candy, wrapping paper, etc. for their kids.
>
> I don't have a problem with the GS cookie lists at work. The parents
> just put them up and don't bug anybody. If it weren't for that, I'd
> never get any. I haven't seen a kid at the door in 10 years.
>

The only way I ever sold any cookies was to go to the neighbors' and
grandparent's house. Not sure why, but my mom never took the order form
to her work. I don't think it was ever brought up as a thing to do.

Hmmmm...still have GS cookies in the freezer from last year.

--
Queenie

*** Be the change you wish to see in the world ***

[I'm borrowing Tracy's post because Charlotte's didn't make it
through my newsserver -- TR]

(Charlotte L. Blackmer) wrote:
> In article >, The Ranger
> > wrote:
>> The cookie chair is the organizer and usually someone of
>> rank within the GS organization. They are in charge of that
>> area's cookie/candy/whatever
>> fund-raiser. A parent that has the attitude that
>> they want to win the "most sold" prize is a danger to that
>> area's program and the chair
>> is the one that has to contain that unbridled
>> attitude. I've seen a similar collision here
>> when a parent tried to jump the gun and sell cookie orders
>> (without the daughter -- hello!)
> <helicopter parent alert level == EXTREMELY ELEVATED>
>>
>> at a local grocery store.
>>You. Don't. Do. That.
>>>
>>> /Small Rant ON "I don't buy at work!" /Small Rant OFF
>> I also have a real issue with parents bringing
>> crap to sell for their kids at work. When
>> approached, I'd simply ask them what they
>> thought they were teaching their son or
>> daughter by doing everything for them. After
>> a while, the solicitors stopped shilling and
>> hawking like open market merchants. At my last job, the CEO
>> had an open dislike of any parents
>> actively selling things and the email from him
>> was titled
"Why-my-sprog's-got-to-come-in-first-with-this-fundraiser."
>> No one hawked anything in the halls after that.
> Good Lord, did the parents actually buttonhole
> you in the halls?

The halls, my office, the parking lot, the cafeteria, at a
local restaurant where the group of us would go to "get
away..." There were five parents that were always in
competition with each other. The rest of us were simply open
wallets regardless of whether we had our own children in the
same organization. "No thank you" was simply viewed by these
five as "We simply haven't come to an agreement yet."

> No wonder boss-man got peeved. They sellin', they
> ain't doin' their day job.

I don't think that had anything to do with it. I think he
disliked being ignored by the five after several rounds of his
polite "No thanks."

> At my last job, the Done Thing was to place
> signup sheets (or "the pitch", or a supply
> and a can for payment) by the coffee pot,
> by the fridge or micro in the kitchen/break
> room, and outside the parents' cube. No buttonholing and no
> mass emailing -
> "soft sell". And the parent who used
> department-wide email to do the selling
> would be Talked To.

I'm sure IT just LOVED those parents... "Wuhl, So-and-So did
it!"

> (the email list got locked down, actually)

Good on them!

> I'm still a bit crabby old-timer about having the
> parents help sell at work, because I was expected
> to march around and do it myself, although I
> understand that the time and place are different
> enough that you don't send eight-year-olds out
> on their owneo ringing doorbells (even if you think that
> people are home in the afternoon, as
> they generally were then).

That's how I was expected to sell things, too. Hamsters, raffle
tickets, magazines, Xmas Wreaths were hawked door-to-door
around my entire school-bound neighborhood. My paperroute was
even larger.

> I don't even remember being taken by my mom to
> sell in person at Dad's office, Grandma's office,
> and Grandpa's club. (I remember a lot of visiting
> my grandmother at her office but that was a
> regular stop for us - she worked for the county
> and the library was in the same building!) OTOH, I don't
> remember sitting at a card table
> in front of the grocery store, either .

Both my parent-units were very black-and-white about this: It's
not benefiting _us_ to do your work. You will learn more from
getting out there and doing it than from us simply giving you a
prize.

> n.b. I was a Bluebird/Campfire Girl (in my
> nabe, we ruled, the Girl Scouts drooled)

SWMBO was a Bluebird/Campfire Girl and my MIL was the area
leader for two decades. GS couldn't gain a foothold in their
nabe because my MIL made it more fun than GS. 'Tain't the case
today.

> and sold mints (thin-mint style). I had
> them with me so purchasers got instant
> gratification. I love mints so I was a
> good customer of mine .

I can well-imagine if Boy Scouts sold candy being the top
seller because I would be the best customer.

The Ranger

"The Ranger" > wrote in
:

> Minor correction: Thin Mints are shortbread cookies covered
> in milk chocolate mint and Trefoils are milk chocolate
> mints (no shortbread). Both are delicious and addictive.

you're kidding. they changed them *that* much, so as to be
totally different cookies?
ok, so what are the new, "improved" Girl Scout cookies & which
ones don't have HFCS?
lee
--
Last night while sitting in my chair
I pinged a host that wasn't there
It wasn't there again today
The host resolved to NSA.

"Default User" > wrote in
:

> jmcquown wrote:
>
>
>> /Small Rant ON
>> There were no actual Girl Scouts there to help sell the
>> cookies. I thought the whole point, aside from
>> fundraising of course, was for the Scouts to do the
>> selling rather than their parents? The same thing bugs me
>> about parents bringing order sheets to the office to sell
>> candy, wrapping paper, etc. for their kids.
>
> I don't have a problem with the GS cookie lists at work.
> The parents just put them up and don't bug anybody. If it
> weren't for that, I'd never get any. I haven't seen a kid
> at the door in 10 years.

i've placed orders with kid's at the door, but they never
came back with the cookies. how do they explain the extra
cookies & missing funds to the scoutmaster?
lee
--
Last night while sitting in my chair
I pinged a host that wasn't there
It wasn't there again today
The host resolved to NSA.

enigma > wrote in message
. ..
[snip]
> ok, so what are the new, "improved" Girl Scout cookies &
> which
> ones don't have HFCS?

I'm not sure any of them are HFCS-free.

http://www.girlscoutsofscc.org/cooki...l?lv5=1&lv2=32

The Ranger

enigma > wrote in message
. ..
[snip]
> i've placed orders with kid's at the door, but they never
> came back with the cookies. how do they explain the extra
> cookies & missing funds to the scoutmaster?

They sell them [any extras not claimed] at the Cookie Shop
event.

The Ranger

"The Ranger" > wrote in
:

> enigma > wrote in message
> . ..
> [snip]
>> ok, so what are the new, "improved" Girl Scout cookies &
>> which
>> ones don't have HFCS?
>
> I'm not sure any of them are HFCS-free.
>
> http://www.girlscoutsofscc.org/cooki...es.html?lv5=1&
> lv2=32

no ingredient listings. too bad.
i see Samoas are now Caramel Delites. was 'Samoas' declared
racist or something? or is it something benign like trying to
make the name actually discriptive?

i wonder if your coast gets different cookies than mine? do
you have cookie sales in the fall or spring?
lee
--
Last night while sitting in my chair
I pinged a host that wasn't there
It wasn't there again today
The host resolved to NSA.

enigma > wrote in message
. ..
[snip]
> i see Samoas are now Caramel Delites. was 'Samoas' declared
> racist or something? or is it something benign like trying to
> make the name actually discriptive?

No; they're still call Samoas in other regions. Each region's
declared bakery(ies) are allowed to designate them with
different names. The recipes are "essentially" the same.

> i wonder if your coast gets different cookies than mine? do
> you have cookie sales in the fall or spring?

Cookie sales are going on right now. Nut and Candy sales are in
the Fall.

The Ranger

In article >,
The Ranger > wrote:
>[I'm borrowing Tracy's post because Charlotte's didn't make it
>through my newsserver -- TR]

Heh. Not sure I've seen Tracy's yet - *cue Twilight Zone music*.

Snipped for brevity throughout.

(Charlotte L. Blackmer) wrote:
>> In article >, The Ranger
>> > wrote:
>>> I also have a real issue with parents bringing
>>> crap to sell for their kids at work.
(...)

>> Good Lord, did the parents actually buttonhole
>> you in the halls?
>
>The halls, my office, the parking lot, the cafeteria, at a
>local restaurant where the group of us would go to "get
>away..." There were five parents that were always in
>competition with each other. The rest of us were simply open
>wallets regardless of whether we had our own children in the
>same organization. "No thank you" was simply viewed by these
>five as "We simply haven't come to an agreement yet."
>
>> No wonder boss-man got peeved. They sellin', they
>> ain't doin' their day job.
>
>I don't think that had anything to do with it. I think he
>disliked being ignored by the five after several rounds of his
>polite "No thanks."

I would be too.

Apparently some people operate on a principle similar to the old, bad "no
doesn't mean no unless she slaps you".

(...)

>> And the parent who used department-wide email to do the selling
>> would be Talked To.
>
>I'm sure IT just LOVED those parents... "Wuhl, So-and-So did
>it!"

I was the email administrator *evil grin*. I got a dozen "Mooooom, make
him stop" for each "so and so did it". (As an asides, I was astounded
at the number of people who complained to me about something like that ...
dude, I'm not that person's supervisor, you're better off kvetching to the
department head if you don't know who s/he reports to.)

Fortunately we had an actual Email Acceptable Use policy that we could use
as the rolled-up stick.

>> (the email list got locked down, actually)
>
>Good on them!

I'm not a huge fan of implementing tech fixes to deal with HR problems,
but this one provided excellent return for effort .

>> I'm still a bit crabby old-timer about having the
>> parents help sell at work, because I was expected
>> to march around and do it myself, although I
>> understand that the time and place are different
>> enough that you don't send eight-year-olds out
>> on their owneo ringing doorbells (even if you think that
>> people are home in the afternoon, as
>> they generally were then).

(...)

>Both my parent-units were very black-and-white about this: It's
>not benefiting _us_ to do your work. You will learn more from
>getting out there and doing it than from us simply giving you a
>prize.

Yep.

I admire you parents who are in there these days with appropriate
involvement with your kids' lives ... appropriate being that you give your
child the appropriate tools to learn to do it themselves and step in only
when the kid actually needs backing up. There's a lot more helicoptering
than there was when I was a kid and it seems to be going on longer in
life. I hear regular stories on a tech support group from university tech
support people who are called and then harangued by out-of-state parents.

(Although given your last story about Spawn, I have a little more sympathy
with "the best defense is a good offense" - ay yi yi!)

ObFood: peppermint bark is Minty Love and a snap (ha ha) to make.
Smashing the peppermints is a good way to deal with pent-up aggression as
well.

Charlotte
--

enigma wrote:

> "Default User" > wrote in
> :

> > I don't have a problem with the GS cookie lists at work.
> > The parents just put them up and don't bug anybody. If it
> > weren't for that, I'd never get any. I haven't seen a kid
> > at the door in 10 years.
>
> i've placed orders with kid's at the door, but they never
> came back with the cookies. how do they explain the extra
> cookies & missing funds to the scoutmaster?

Extra cookies usually find buyers without much trouble, so there
wouldn't be any missing funds.





Brian

--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

On Feb 18, 11:56 am, "The Ranger" > wrote:
> Tracy > wrote in message
>
> ...>>> GS Thin Mints and good and Trefoils are nice
> >>> buttery shortbread cookies [..]
>
> >> Minor correction: Thin Mints are shortbread cookies covered
> >> in milk chocolate mint and Trefoils are milk chocolate mints
> >> (no shortbread). Both are delicious and addictive.
>
> > Trefoils are shortbread.
>
> >http://www.littlebrowniebakers.com/c.../trefoils.html
>
> I've got a box right in front of me: There ain't no cookie in
> it. There are two layers of milk chocolate sandwiching a nice
> layer of mint.
>
> It took some significant digging on my local's site but here ya
> go:http://www.girlscoutsofscc.org/cooki...varieties.html
>
> You can't eat just one.
>
> The Ranger

That sounds interesting. The ones in my freezer (from last year's
sale) are a chocolate cookie covered in dark mint chocolate.

We're all out of Samoas (the deadly ones with caramel, coconut and
chocolate surrounding a ring cookie.)

And you're right, Ranger. The Cookie Chair is the in-charge person
(could be a man as well as a woman) who enforces the rules of the
sale. Since all troops who wish to do any fundraisers have to sell
cookies (which teach the girls, in theory, about business, safety,
marketing, etc.), it's nice when the rules are enforced so all the
girls have a chance to learn.

When my daughter decided to drop out of scouting, I had neighbors who
cried.

maxine in ri

enigma wrote:

>
>
> no ingredient listings. too bad.
> i see Samoas are now Caramel Delites. was 'Samoas' declared
> racist or something? or is it something benign like trying to
> make the name actually discriptive?
>
> i wonder if your coast gets different cookies than mine? do
> you have cookie sales in the fall or spring?
> lee

I always wondered..now I know.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samoas

Apparently there are many "official" bakers....The cookies I just bought
(on the east coast) are by ABC bakers.
-Tracy

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
. ..
> From the local paper this morning (pretty silly), two women got into a
> heated argument over the sale of Girl Scout cookies. Apparently there is
> a "cookie chairman" (LOL) who is in charge of saying where GS cookies can
> and cannot be sold, and this flea market wasn't one of them. She showed
> up to play enforcer and it went downhill from there.
>
> http://www.beaufortgazette.com/local/story/195416.html
>
> /Small Rant ON
> There were no actual Girl Scouts there to help sell the cookies. I
> thought the whole point, aside from fundraising of course, was for the
> Scouts to do the selling rather than their parents? The same thing bugs
> me about parents bringing order sheets to the office to sell candy,
> wrapping paper, etc. for their kids. I understand not wanting kids to go
> door-to-door alone these days. So go with them; don't do the "job" for
> them.
>
> And don't put your co-workers on the spot. I always felt if I ordered
> from one person I'd have to order from everyone. You can't exactly pick
> and choose without hurting someone's feelings or, god forbid, having
> someone think you like one kid better than another. Never mind the fact
> I'd never met any of their kids...
> /Small Rant OFF
>
> GS Thin Mints are good and the Trefoils are nice buttery shortbread
> cookies If I spot a Scout selling cookies in an "authorized" location
> I'll pick up some for my dad.

I was a scout leader for one year. I had a real issue with the cookie sale.
For one thing, we are supposed to be teaching the girls to eat healthy foods
and those cookies are anything but healthy. Technically the girls are not
required to "sell" the cookies but if they opt not to, they are required to
help out in some way with the sale.

The reason for the authorized sale areas is to prevent one troop from having
more sales than another. And the girls are supposed to take turns doing the
selling. With the youngest girls, the mothers do help with the sales.

It wasn't like this when I was in scouts. But back then we had only two
kinds of cookies and they actually tasted good. I don't think the ones they
sell these days do.

"The Ranger" > wrote in message
...

<snip>

> Minor correction: Thin Mints are shortbread cookies covered in milk
> chocolate mint and Trefoils are milk chocolate mints (no shortbread). Both
> are delicious and addictive.

Nope. Trefoils are shortbread but I don't think they are made with real
butter any more. They are the original cookie.

"enigma" > wrote in message
. ..
> "The Ranger" > wrote in
> :
>
>> Minor correction: Thin Mints are shortbread cookies covered
>> in milk chocolate mint and Trefoils are milk chocolate
>> mints (no shortbread). Both are delicious and addictive.
>
> you're kidding. they changed them *that* much, so as to be
> totally different cookies?
> ok, so what are the new, "improved" Girl Scout cookies & which
> ones don't have HFCS?
> lee

The original mint cookies were not thin mints but a sandwich cookie. Two
chocolate cookies with mint between dipped in chocolate. I liked those.
Never did like the Thin Mints.

"The Ranger" > wrote in message
...
> enigma > wrote in message
> . ..
> [snip]
>> ok, so what are the new, "improved" Girl Scout cookies & which
>> ones don't have HFCS?
>
> I'm not sure any of them are HFCS-free.
>
> http://www.girlscoutsofscc.org/cooki...l?lv5=1&lv2=32

They are now trans-fat free.

"Default User" > wrote in message
...
> jmcquown wrote:
>
>
>> /Small Rant ON
>> There were no actual Girl Scouts there to help sell the cookies. I
>> thought the whole point, aside from fundraising of course, was for
>> the Scouts to do the selling rather than their parents? The same
>> thing bugs me about parents bringing order sheets to the office to
>> sell candy, wrapping paper, etc. for their kids.
>
> I don't have a problem with the GS cookie lists at work. The parents
> just put them up and don't bug anybody. If it weren't for that, I'd
> never get any. I haven't seen a kid at the door in 10 years.

They're not allowed to go door to door any more unless the personally know
the people.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
news:qimuj.9099$kz3.5539@trndny03...
>
> "Default User" > wrote in message
> ...
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>
>>> /Small Rant ON
>>> There were no actual Girl Scouts there to help sell the cookies. I
>>> thought the whole point, aside from fundraising of course, was for
>>> the Scouts to do the selling rather than their parents? The same
>>> thing bugs me about parents bringing order sheets to the office to
>>> sell candy, wrapping paper, etc. for their kids.
>>
>> I don't have a problem with the GS cookie lists at work. The parents
>> just put them up and don't bug anybody. If it weren't for that, I'd
>> never get any. I haven't seen a kid at the door in 10 years.
>
> They're not allowed to go door to door any more unless the personally know
> the people.
>

Not even with their parents standing right next to them as they knock on the
door?

Julie Bove > wrote in message
news:samuj.6737$eg3.579@trndny05...
> "The Ranger" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> <snip>
>> Minor correction: Thin Mints are shortbread cookies
>> covered in milk chocolate mint and Trefoils are milk
>> chocolate mints (no shortbread). Both are delicious
>> and addictive.
>>
> Nope. Trefoils are shortbread but I don't think they
> are made with real butter any more. They are the
> original cookie.

In your daughter's region, Trefoils are shortbread cookies
covered with chocolate. In my area, those are chocolate mints.

http://www.girlscoutsofscc.org/cooki...varieties.html

http://www.girlscoutsofscc.org/cooki....mintnutr.html

The Ranger

enigma > wrote in message
. ..
[snip]
> no ingredient listings. too bad.

Click on the picture. It links to the nutritional information
fact bar.

Fer instance:
http://www.girlscoutsofscc.org/cooki....mintnutr.html

The Ranger

Julie Bove > wrote in message
news:qimuj.9099$kz3.5539@trndny03...
[snip]
> They're not allowed to go door to door any more unless
> the personally know the people.

Yes they are allowed to go door-to-door. The policy is "with a
parent and in pairs." It's over-protective parents that
interpret that as, "No door-to-door sales."

The Ranger

In article >,
enigma > wrote:

> i wonder if your coast gets different cookies than mine? do
> you have cookie sales in the fall or spring?
> lee


Entirely possible.
There is some overlap but the Minneapolis and the St. Paul GS orgs don't
sell the same cookies.
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://www.jamlady.eboard.com;pics of my no-knead bread posted
Laissez les bons temps rouler!

In article >,
(Charlotte L. Blackmer) wrote:

> grandmother at her office but that was a regular stop for us - she worked
> for the county and the library was in the same building!) OTOH, I don't
> remember sitting at a card table in front of the grocery store, either .
> --

Around here troops will set up shop and signage in such a way to be a
drive-thru operation. I doesn't even have to get out of my car!!
Woo-hoo-o-o-o-dawgie!
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://www.jamlady.eboard.com;pics of my no-knead bread posted
Laissez les bons temps rouler!

"The Ranger" > wrote :
>
> http://www.girlscoutsofscc.org/cooki...varieties.html
>
> http://www.girlscoutsofscc.org/cooki....mintnutr.html
>
> The Ranger
Yeah, well, all I know is that now I need some Girl Scout
cookies.

Julie Bove wrote:

> >
> > And don't put your co-workers on the spot. I always felt if I ordered
> > from one person I'd have to order from everyone. You can't exactly pick
> > and choose without hurting someone's feelings or, god forbid, having
> > someone think you like one kid better than another. Never mind the fact
> > I'd never met any of their kids...
> > /Small Rant OFF
> >
> > GS Thin Mints are good and the Trefoils are nice buttery shortbread
> > cookies If I spot a Scout selling cookies in an "authorized" location
> > I'll pick up some for my dad.
>
> I was a scout leader for one year. I had a real issue with the cookie sale.
> For one thing, we are supposed to be teaching the girls to eat healthy foods
> and those cookies are anything but healthy. Technically the girls are not
> required to "sell" the cookies but if they opt not to, they are required to
> help out in some way with the sale.
>
> The reason for the authorized sale areas is to prevent one troop from having
> more sales than another. And the girls are supposed to take turns doing the
> selling. With the youngest girls, the mothers do help with the sales.
>
> It wasn't like this when I was in scouts. But back then we had only two
> kinds of cookies and they actually tasted good. I don't think the ones they
> sell these days do.

I had some issues with them too. First of all, I agree about the original two
flavours. I preferred the vanilla, but the chocolate weren't bad. The only other
variety we had here with the chocolate dipped mint sandwiches, and I don't like
the chocolate mint combination. I know that others do.

I like the idea of the kids getting involved in the sale because it teachers
them some personal responsibility. Community organizations need financial
support and IMO, dumping the cookie sales on the parents detracts from the
effort to get involved in the fundraising. When I was a cub scout we had paper
drives and bottle drives and we were all expected to participate by going door
to door to solicit and collect the paper or bottles.

I noticed something unusual, though no longer surprising when I was working.
Some of the people I worked with had kids in Girl Guides, schools and other
activities and often came in with cookies, chocolate bars and other things to
sell for their kids activities, and most of the rest of us would buy them. Then
I noticed that the same people who were always selling stuff for their kids were
the least likely to buy things when other parents were selling them. Funny how
they think that other people should support their kid's activities but they
never wanted to help out with the other parents' kids' programs.

"The Ranger" > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove > wrote in message
> news:qimuj.9099$kz3.5539@trndny03...
> [snip]
>> They're not allowed to go door to door any more unless
>> the personally know the people.
>
> Yes they are allowed to go door-to-door. The policy is "with a parent and
> in pairs." It's over-protective parents that interpret that as, "No
> door-to-door sales."

Well, here they are not allowed to go door to door. I was a leader. Could
vary in other areas.

In article
>,
maxine in ri > wrote:

> And you're right, Ranger. The Cookie Chair is the in-charge person
> (could be a man as well as a woman) who enforces the rules of the
> sale. Since all troops who wish to do any fundraisers have to sell
> cookies (which teach the girls, in theory, about business, safety,
> marketing, etc.), it's nice when the rules are enforced so all the
> girls have a chance to learn.
>
> When my daughter decided to drop out of scouting, I had neighbors who
> cried.
>
> maxine in ri

One of my pet peeves is the urchin-manned (girl'd) cookie table set up
outside the grocery store or some other establishment. Why doesn't
anyone teach these children how to sell? They say, "Do yuh wanna buy
sum cookies?" That's not selling. It's a form of organized
extortion/begging, incompetence/exploitation, borderline
child-traumatization.

One time, I called up the local Girl Scout poo-bah and offered to hold
a sales clinic for scouts and their parents. I have experience with
young sales people through newspaper circulation. I said that they
owed it to the youngsters to give them a positive sales experience
because they might discover that they like sales and go on to make a
career out of it, or use the same skills in other occupations.

The Girl Scouts are supposed to be about raising self esteem and
providing positive experiences, so why the incompetent sales approach?
It's terrible to allow children to do the "Do yuh wanna buy some
cookies?" bit because so many people either ignore it or turn it down
because it's simply another impersonal "pitch" they hear out of
hundreds of exhortations to buy this, buy that they hear every day. A
lot of these kids put on a brave face as they get pushed into repeating
"Do yuh wanna buy some cookies?" time-after-time. I think they could
sell more, much more, than they do by "mercy/loyalty/sympathy sales" if
they had a competent and effective sales program that's more than "just
sell the cookies, people."

The locals referred me to the national office and they said that the
cookie representatives are supposed to help out with sales approaches
(but obviously they aren't, I told d them). I said that I'd run a demo
sales program in my local area that would be sure to increase sales and
give the scouts positive sales experiences. Then I'd provide the
national office with a comprehensive sales training program geared
toward the members and parents - all absolutely free because I'm
retired and looking for a community service project to get involved in.

No, they said, we're all set and happy with what we've got. Go figure.
How many women today hate the idea of selling because they had an awful
time trying to sell Girl Scout cookies?