Andy wrote:
> Dave Bugg said...
>
>> Andy wrote:
>>> Dave Bugg said...
>>>
>>>> Andy wrote:
>>>>> Dave Bugg said...
>>>>>
>>>>>> Andy wrote:
>>>>>>> Dave Bugg said...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Go back to AFB and apologize for your KKK comment, Andy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You have a problem with anti-KKK folks?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You aren't anti-anything except common sense. What are you trying
>>>>>> to spin, Andy? You asked someone innocent if they were
>>>>>> fundraising for the KKK. The fact that you keep trying to defend
>>>>>> your atrocious behavior gives everyone a good look at what kind
>>>>>> of prick you really are.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You're belief is yours and mine is mine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What belief, you bigoted ass-wipe? Your trying to tell us that
>>>>>> you believe jeremy is a KKK supporter? You really are a MF loser
>>>>>> of the worst dimension.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> **** you!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's what your mother did with every pin-head in the looney-bin
>>>>>> lock-up. Your conception has no other explanation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh, and I didn't think you cared. That makes you a liar as well.
>>>>>> Now go apologize to jeremy you jerk-off.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Andy the ass
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Must I remind you that your slander can be legally attacked? Wanna
>>>>> go for it, or shut up?!?
>>>>
>>>> Hey, go for it you ****ing bluff-tard. I'd love to meet you
>>>> face-to-face in court, or anywhere else. What's wrong, pussy; you
>>>> want to dish it out but can't take it?
>>>>
>>>> The great thing about all this is that folks get to see you for the
>>>> slug you really are.
>>>>
>>>> Someone get me the Heinz 57. I'm ready to take another bite outta
>>>> this ****-tard.
>>>>
>>>>> Andy (My momma Protects Me) Pussy
>>>
>>>
>>> Editing my copy isn't going to help your case.
>>
>> Gawd, you really are that stupid. LOL!!!
>>
>>> I'll talk to my attorny on Monday. Don't want to disrupt his
>>> weekend.
>>
>> Please, give your 'attorney' loves and kisses from me. I can't wait.
>> And thanks for making your unmasking to those on these usent groups
>> soooo very easy.
>>
>>> Andy (I'll Huff and Puff and Bluff Your House Down) Faker

> HA. Ever been sued? Over and over and over???

Are you gonna just TALK me to death, or are you actually gonna do something.
We all know you are nothing but a bloated bag 'o skunk shit, but please, do
your best to prove us wrong.

The delicious part of all this, Andy Pander, is that you made this threat in
front of everyone. So now, if you don't follow through you'll be further
humiliated (which seems hardly possible). Please, feel free to keep
painting yourself in a corner, boy-o

Gee, before suing for -- what did you call it? Slander? you might want to
re-check your legal definitions so that you know what you are talking about.

Hey, I wonder if Jeremy feels like suing YOUR ass for painting him as a KKK
supporter. Bwahahahahaha!!!

This, my friends, is going to be fun :-D

> Andy (I'm Everyone's Blowup Doll) Huff-Bluffer

"Dave Bugg" > wrote in message
newsWNvj.1788$RQ3.232@trndny05...
> Andy wrote:

Damn. Go to the Janet Baraclough School of Usenet Posting, did we?

You think you won't pay for this?

Bad move!

Andy

Dave Bugg wrote:

> The delicious part of all this, Andy Pander,

Hey, who else remembers that cartoon character: Andy Panda? How about
Chilly Willy, the penguin?


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cybercat wrote:
> "Dave Bugg" > wrote in message
> newsWNvj.1788$RQ3.232@trndny05...
>> Andy wrote:
>
> Damn. Go to the Janet Baraclough School of Usenet Posting, did we?

Andy deserves everthing he's getting, Cyber. He played the punk card with
the wrong person this time.

--
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www.davebbq.com

Andy wrote:
> You think you won't pay for this?
>
> Bad move!

You keep talkin', the big talk, bubba. Now go apologize to Jeremy for
painting him with the KKK brush, you bigot.

> Andy (My Heart Is Full of Shit) Mouth

"Dave Bugg" > wrote in message
news:nMOvj.53$A93.48@trndny08...
> cybercat wrote:
>> "Dave Bugg" > wrote in message
>> newsWNvj.1788$RQ3.232@trndny05...
>>> Andy wrote:
>>
>> Damn. Go to the Janet Baraclough School of Usenet Posting, did we?
>
> Andy deserves everthing he's getting, Cyber. He played the punk card with
> the wrong person this time.
>
> --
> Dave
> www.davebbq.com
>
Those who read and/or post to both RFC and ABF probably already saw all this
crap. Those of us who don't really don't want to.

Jill

"Dave Bugg" > ha scritto
> This, my friends, is going to be fun :-D
>> Andy (I'm Everyone's Blowup Doll) Huff-Bluffer
>
>


This might be fun for you; I have heard that it takes all kinds. It is not
fun for us. You think you are exposing Andy, but you are telling us a whole
lot more about you than about Andy.

Andy may or may not deserve a pasting for something he did. WE did nothing
to deserve being condemned to watch two supposedly grown men use foul
language to act out a playground bully contest.

Do it in email.

"Giusi" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Dave Bugg" > ha scritto
>> This, my friends, is going to be fun :-D
>>> Andy (I'm Everyone's Blowup Doll) Huff-Bluffer
>>
>
> Andy may or may not deserve a pasting for something he did. WE did
> nothing to deserve being condemned to watch two supposedly grown men use
> foul language to act out a playground bully contest.
>
> Do it in email.
>
THANK YOU! I very rarely look at ABF anymore but since that's where this
occurred it should stay there or be done in email as you suggest.

Jill

On Feb 22, 11:11 pm, "Dave Bugg" > wrote:
>
>
> Gee, before suing for -- what did you call it? Slander? you might want to
> re-check your legal definitions so that you know what you are talking about.

Dave's correct, it's called *libel*, not "slander" when it's in print,
rather than spoken.


--Bryan

jmcquown wrote:
> "Giusi" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> "Dave Bugg" > ha scritto
>>> This, my friends, is going to be fun :-D
>>>> Andy (I'm Everyone's Blowup Doll) Huff-Bluffer
>>>
>>
>> Andy may or may not deserve a pasting for something he did. WE did
>> nothing to deserve being condemned to watch two supposedly grown men
>> use foul language to act out a playground bully contest.
>>
>> Do it in email.
>>
> THANK YOU! I very rarely look at ABF anymore but since that's where
> this occurred it should stay there or be done in email as you suggest.

Sorry, Jill. There isn't a whole bunch that brings my blood to boil anymore,
but Andy's hateful, bigoted attitude doesn't belong on any group that I was
on prior to him arriving, which is RFC and ABF. You really don't want to get
in the middle of this. It might be better if you just decide to kill-file
the thread.

Regards,
--
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www.davebbq.com

"Dave Bugg" > wrote
> Sorry, Jill. There isn't a whole bunch that brings my blood to boil
> anymore, but Andy's hateful, bigoted attitude doesn't belong on any group
> that I was on prior to him arriving, which is RFC and ABF. You really
> don't want to get in the middle of this. It might be better if you just
> decide to kill-file the thread.
>

You're grossing me out, too, and I am usually the one grossing other people
out with my invective.

"Bobo Bonobo�" wrote:
> "Dave Bugg" wrote:
>
> > Gee, before suing for -- what did you call it? Slander? you might want to
> > re-check your legal definitions so that you know what you are talking about.
>
> Dave's correct, it's called *libel*, not "slander" when it's in print,
> rather than spoken.

Hmm, maybe a combo of both... allegedly guilty of "labia"?

cybercat wrote:
> "Dave Bugg" > wrote
>> Sorry, Jill. There isn't a whole bunch that brings my blood to boil
>> anymore, but Andy's hateful, bigoted attitude doesn't belong on any
>> group that I was on prior to him arriving, which is RFC and ABF. You
>> really don't want to get in the middle of this. It might be better
>> if you just decide to kill-file the thread.
>>
>
> You're grossing me out, too, and I am usually the one grossing other
> people out with my invective.

I'm grossing me out, too. I hate all of this and it's been a long, long,
long time since I've even felt like doing what I'm doing. What Andy did was
particularly hurtful because ABF and AFB went through a real tough period
with a self-described 'technical writer'. For years he spent a long time
laying the 'racist', 'KKK', 'lynch mob rednecks' label on EVERY participant
of those groups. He finally went away and things have been great.

But now we have CrackerJack boi who comes into ABF and just like here, he
posts his insipid stupidity every once in a while, which is fine. I ignore
him, don't say a word to him. Just like here, the tone changes from
air-headed but harmless remarks to an increasingly dark and mean-spirited
homily to which one shakes their head and says to themselves, 'What's the
punchline here? He can't possibly mean what he said'.

However Andy has now pushed over the line.

A bbq guy, Jeremy, posted information on both AFB and ABF about a weekend
long bbq fundraiser he gives his time to each year. The website url he
includes shows the children's programs which the fundraiser supports.
Without ANYTHING that even smacks remotely of racism, other than being from
Texas (a 'crime' for which Andy has taken a particular hated tone in other
posts he's made there) Andy asks Jeremy if he's raising money for the KKK.

I was the first to reply to Andy's post, giving him a benefit of the doubt
he really didn't deserve, asking him to please clarify his post; that if he
had meant for his post to be a joke, it wasn't. Several others had
immediately responded to Andy's post by stating similar things to what I had
posted. Andy's response -- to wit -- was to tell us to **** off, and that if
Jeremy wasn't raising money for the KKK he would answer the question.

I decided that this crap wasn't going to happen again, or be allowed to
stand without a furious response. In this day and age one of the worst
societal labels you can fling at someone innocent is the label of racism.
When Andy decided to fling that label at someone I respect because he has a
personal attitude problem with 'rednecks' and 'Texans' and those of us who
do bbq, he has crossed the rhetorical line and doesn't deserve the respect
of decent and respectable language.

Andy could have, at the time he made the post, very easily and without much
of a loss of face, apologized; by even pretending that it was just a stupid
joke and that he didn't mean anything by it, things would have just gone on
without so much as a hiccup. But his responses in that thread made painfully
obvious that he said what he meant to say. Andy is bigoted against me and
the people I am friends with or respect through their postings. He thinks by
virtue of what we enjoy doing -- or where we might live -- that we are
racists.

I hate this Cyber; but Andy is a shallow, vindictive, hate-filled spirit who
can no longer be free to go unchallenged. He needs to apologize to Jeremy,
or go away. But right now, I just want to keep taking big bites out of him.
Tomorrow, who knows?

--
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www.davebbq.com

"Dave Bugg" > wrote
> I'm grossing me out, too. I hate all of this and it's been a long, long,
> long time since I've even felt like doing what I'm doing. ...[snippage]

I know what it's like to feel strongly about something, whether or not
I am right. Strong feelings are good, part of being fully human. I mean,
look at some of these namby-pamby people, blech! You gotta do
what you gotta do.

> I hate this Cyber; but Andy is a shallow, vindictive, hate-filled spirit
> who can no longer be free to go unchallenged. He needs to apologize to
> Jeremy, or go away. But right now, I just want to keep taking big bites
> out of him. Tomorrow, who knows?
>

Well, Heaven knows that I've learned that God didn't give us these teeth
solely for eating our rice krispies. And Andy can always bite you back.

For once, I am going to try to remain nonjudgmental and neutral.

*Disclaimer: the above statement does not apply to Sheldon, Lou, Jill,
Queen Greg, Right-wing assholes, Goomba, cliquish control freaks,
warmongers, or other stupid people.

Babysteps, baby. Babystepping my way to tolerance.

On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 19:51:06 GMT, "Dave Bugg" >
wrote:

>I hate this Cyber; but Andy is a shallow, vindictive, hate-filled spirit who
>can no longer be free to go unchallenged. He needs to apologize to Jeremy,
>or go away. But right now, I just want to keep taking big bites out of him.
>Tomorrow, who knows?

Don't go off the deep end like Pastorio did.... it still bothers me
that he spent so much time pursuing that Chung character when he could
have been doing more pleasant things.

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sf wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 19:51:06 GMT, "Dave Bugg" >
> wrote:
>
>> I hate this Cyber; but Andy is a shallow, vindictive, hate-filled
>> spirit who can no longer be free to go unchallenged. He needs to
>> apologize to Jeremy, or go away. But right now, I just want to keep
>> taking big bites out of him. Tomorrow, who knows?
>
> Don't go off the deep end like Pastorio did.... it still bothers me
> that he spent so much time pursuing that Chung character when he could
> have been doing more pleasant things.

I hear ya :-)

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"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 05:37:12 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> Those who read and/or post to both RFC and ABF probably already saw all
>> this
>> crap. Those of us who don't really don't want to.
>
> ABF is still a nice group for the most part. We always bring our
> dirty laundry over here so as not to disrupt the balance of the
> group.
>
> You don't hang out there anymore, for example - not after your
> third strike. And Andy's pretty much history now, too.
>
> -sw
>
Oh get over yourself. Third strike my arse; I just got tired of looking at
BOTD's.

On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 03:21:09 -0500, jmcquown wrote:

> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 05:37:12 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>> Those who read and/or post to both RFC and ABF probably already saw all
>>> this
>>> crap. Those of us who don't really don't want to.
>>
>> ABF is still a nice group for the most part. We always bring our
>> dirty laundry over here so as not to disrupt the balance of the
>> group.
>>
>> You don't hang out there anymore, for example - not after your
>> third strike. And Andy's pretty much history now, too.
>>
> Oh get over yourself. Third strike my arse; I just got tired of looking at
> BOTD's.

Cop Out. There hasn't been BOTD's for over 2 years. You were
there much later.

-sw

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"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 03:21:09 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 05:37:12 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>>> Those who read and/or post to both RFC and ABF probably already saw all
>>>> this
>>>> crap. Those of us who don't really don't want to.
>>>
>>> ABF is still a nice group for the most part. We always bring our
>>> dirty laundry over here so as not to disrupt the balance of the
>>> group.
>>>
>>> You don't hang out there anymore, for example - not after your
>>> third strike. And Andy's pretty much history now, too.
>>>
>> Oh get over yourself. Third strike my arse; I just got tired of looking
>> at
>> BOTD's.
>
> Cop Out. There hasn't been BOTD's for over 2 years. You were
> there much later.
>
> -sw
>
> --
> The original Coca-Cola bottle was fashioned after a kola nut.

What I wanna know is who died and left her in charge of who gets to post
what where.

Ms P

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 03:21:09 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 05:37:12 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>>> Those who read and/or post to both RFC and ABF probably already saw all
>>>> this
>>>> crap. Those of us who don't really don't want to.
>>>
>>> ABF is still a nice group for the most part. We always bring our
>>> dirty laundry over here so as not to disrupt the balance of the
>>> group.
>>>
>>> You don't hang out there anymore, for example - not after your
>>> third strike. And Andy's pretty much history now, too.
>>>
>> Oh get over yourself. Third strike my arse; I just got tired of looking
>> at
>> BOTD's.
>
> Cop Out. There hasn't been BOTD's for over 2 years. You were
> there much later.
>
> -sw
>
Wrong, sqwertz breath! I was there well before the BOTD's (you claim) died
out; how else would I know about them?! I don't take photos of my food
anymore because the process bored me to tears.

Jill

On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 19:24:50 -0500, jmcquown wrote:

> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 03:21:09 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 05:37:12 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Those who read and/or post to both RFC and ABF probably already saw all
>>>>> this
>>>>> crap. Those of us who don't really don't want to.
>>>>
>>>> ABF is still a nice group for the most part. We always bring our
>>>> dirty laundry over here so as not to disrupt the balance of the
>>>> group.
>>>>
>>>> You don't hang out there anymore, for example - not after your
>>>> third strike. And Andy's pretty much history now, too.
>>>>
>>> Oh get over yourself. Third strike my arse; I just got tired of looking
>>> at
>>> BOTD's.
>>
>> Cop Out. There hasn't been BOTD's for over 2 years. You were
>> there much later.
>>
> Wrong, sqwertz breath! I was there well before the BOTD's (you claim) died
> out; how else would I know about them?! I don't take photos of my food
> anymore because the process bored me to tears.

I was pointing out that you *left* long after the BOTD's, thus
suggesting you didn't leave because of the BOTD's as you
indicated.

You left in a huff over I forget what. But I do remember that I
started it, whatever it was :-)

-sw

"Dave Bugg" > wrote in message
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>
> A bbq guy, Jeremy, posted information on both AFB and ABF about a weekend
> long bbq fundraiser he gives his time to each year. The website url he
> includes shows the children's programs which the fundraiser supports.
> Without ANYTHING that even smacks remotely of racism, other than being
> from Texas (a 'crime' for which Andy has taken a particular hated tone in
> other posts he's made there)

The funny thing is...Jeremy's not *from* TX. He's lived in Houston for quite
awhile now (I met him at a houston.eats get-together back in 2000), but he's
originally from the UK. You'd never think he was from TX if you heard his
British accent.


> Andy asks Jeremy if he's raising money for the KKK.
>
> I was the first to reply to Andy's post, giving him a benefit of the doubt
> he really didn't deserve, asking him to please clarify his post; that if
> he had meant for his post to be a joke, it wasn't. Several others had
> immediately responded to Andy's post by stating similar things to what I
> had posted. Andy's response -- to wit -- was to tell us to **** off, and
> that if Jeremy wasn't raising money for the KKK he would answer the
> question.

Andy asked what Jeremy's "causes" are, and I posted the URL to Jeremy's
team's website (where the causes are stated and explained quite clearly). I
have no clue where Andy came up with KKK...

Mary

On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 19:24:50 -0500, "jmcquown" >
wrote:

>BOTD's

What's a BOTD?


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On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:06:57 -0500, "MareCat"
> wrote:

>I have no clue where Andy came up with KKK...

He has a stutter?

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sf wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 19:24:50 -0500, "jmcquown" >
> wrote:
>
>> BOTD's
>
> What's a BOTD?

It's the acronym coined by one of the participants: Bottle Of The Day. He
would take a picture of various import and microbrew beers to post every
day.

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On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 05:36:54 GMT, Dave Bugg wrote:

> sf wrote:
>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 19:24:50 -0500, "jmcquown" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> BOTD's
>>
>> What's a BOTD?
>
> It's the acronym coined by one of the participants: Bottle Of The Day. He
> would take a picture of various import and microbrew beers to post every
> day.

If I may - BEER of the Day.

-sw

In article >, sf wrote:

> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 19:24:50 -0500, "jmcquown" >
> wrote:
>
> >BOTD's
>
> What's a BOTD?

I would almost have been willing to bet:

Bitch of the Day

except I peeked!

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On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 05:36:54 GMT, "Dave Bugg" >
wrote:

>sf wrote:
>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 19:24:50 -0500, "jmcquown" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> BOTD's
>>
>> What's a BOTD?
>
>It's the acronym coined by one of the participants: Bottle Of The Day. He
>would take a picture of various import and microbrew beers to post every
>day.

<slapping forehead> I remember those pictures! How did he manage to
find so many?

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sf wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 05:36:54 GMT, "Dave Bugg" >
> wrote:
>
>> sf wrote:
>>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 19:24:50 -0500, "jmcquown"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> BOTD's
>>>
>>> What's a BOTD?
>>
>> It's the acronym coined by one of the participants: Bottle Of The
>> Day. He would take a picture of various import and microbrew beers
>> to post every day.
>
> <slapping forehead> I remember those pictures! How did he manage to
> find so many?

He's a connoseiur and enthusiast. Or maybe a desperate drunk :-) I'll ask
Jay next time I see him.

He actually does a lot of travelling for his job.

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<sf> wrote in message ...
> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:06:57 -0500, "MareCat"
> > wrote:
>
>>I have no clue where Andy came up with KKK...
>
> He has a stutter?

LOL. That must be it.

Mary

On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 18:49:33 GMT, Dave Bugg wrote:

> sf wrote:
>> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 05:36:54 GMT, "Dave Bugg" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> sf wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 19:24:50 -0500, "jmcquown"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> BOTD's
>>>>
>>>> What's a BOTD?
>>>
>>> It's the acronym coined by one of the participants: Bottle Of The
>>> Day. He would take a picture of various import and microbrew beers
>>> to post every day.
>>
>> <slapping forehead> I remember those pictures! How did he manage to
>> find so many?
>
> He's a connoseiur and enthusiast. Or maybe a desperate drunk :-) I'll ask
> Jay next time I see him.

IIRC, he had a regular customer who owned a mini-market/deli that
had a good selection of ever-changing domestic and imported
beers, and he was determined to try them all.

-sw

On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 18:49:33 GMT, "Dave Bugg" >
wrote:

>sf wrote:
>> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 05:36:54 GMT, "Dave Bugg" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> sf wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 19:24:50 -0500, "jmcquown"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> BOTD's
>>>>
>>>> What's a BOTD?
>>>
>>> It's the acronym coined by one of the participants: Bottle Of The
>>> Day. He would take a picture of various import and microbrew beers
>>> to post every day.
>>
>> <slapping forehead> I remember those pictures! How did he manage to
>> find so many?
>
>He's a connoseiur and enthusiast. Or maybe a desperate drunk :-) I'll ask
>Jay next time I see him.

Variety is the spice of life! Remember that one?
>
>He actually does a lot of travelling for his job.

AHA, thanks!

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"sf" wrote in message ...
> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 19:24:50 -0500, "jmcquown" >
> wrote:
>
>>BOTD's
>
> What's a BOTD?
>
Beer of the Day. I'm truly not interested in looking at photos of bottles
of beer They may well have stopped posting these but I don't know
because I haven't made it a habit to read or post there for quite some time.
I DID go look at and reply to a post by Barb Schaller after she made a
chicken dish using the recipe I'd posted in December. But as a general rule
I don't bother with abf anymore.

Jill