Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> In article >,
> (Charlotte L. Blackmer) wrote:
>
>> People do this kind of shit because they want attention, want a
>> fight. Don't play to their script because when you do, nobody wins
>> but the troll.
>
>> Charlotte
>> --
>
> It's called taking the sail out of their wind.

Aye Barb, I got the message)))



>
> OB Hotdish: Ground beef,onion, mushrooms browned up. Rice cooked in
> chicken broth to approximate condensed chicken rice soup, one can
> condensed cream of mushroom soup added along with a splash of soy
> sauce. It's been divided in two and frozen with instructions to thaw,
> add chow mein noodles and bake for 30-40 minutes at 350 deg. I got
> the recipe at my bridal shower 42 years ago.

Blinky the Shark wrote:
> cybercat wrote:
>
>>
>> "Little Malice" > wrote:
>>
>>> Wow. I'm really sorry about that, Charlotte. I witnessed one death
>>> threat to a friend 12 years ago and it scared me enough to stop
>>> using my legal last name. I can't imagine what you've been through.
>>> I feel sort of cowardly now...
>>
>> You're not cowardly, you're smart. They don't call it freaknet for
>> nothing. Happily, there are better anti-electronic stalking laws now
>> than there were 12 years ago.
>
> I, probably like most of us, sometimes encounter Usenet real-name
> bigots. I ended up devoting a page at Blinkynet to this:
>
> http://blinkynet.net/comp/nicks.html

Excellent page. I also like the comment about how your screen name came
about!

I too have had problems caused by using my real name on usenet. When I first
started posting to usenet I was in the RAF. I regularly used my real name on
a model railway group. A couple of the young lads on my squadron decided to
track the online activities of people that they knew and every morning used
to put printouts of people's postings up on the noriceboard at work. In one
incident I had cause to discipline one of my troops and he complained to the
Flight Sergeant along the lines of "He has a train set. How am I expected to
respect him?" I had an interview with the Flight Sergeant who explained
that railway modelling isn't really conducive to maintaining military
discipline and told me that I should abandon my hobby. I told him "Good luck
with enforcing that order".

Nevertheless, from that point on I started to use a screen name and have
done so ever since.

Incidentally, one of the lads who did the online tracking later got himself
into a lot of trouble. He hacked into a bank website (not really
maliciously, just because he *could* ). When caught, he ended up doing time
in a military prison.

--
Enzo

I wear the cheese. It does not wear me.

Enzo Matrix wrote:

> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>> cybercat wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Little Malice" > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Wow. I'm really sorry about that, Charlotte. I witnessed one death
>>>> threat to a friend 12 years ago and it scared me enough to stop
>>>> using my legal last name. I can't imagine what you've been through.
>>>> I feel sort of cowardly now...
>>>
>>> You're not cowardly, you're smart. They don't call it freaknet for
>>> nothing. Happily, there are better anti-electronic stalking laws now
>>> than there were 12 years ago.
>>
>> I, probably like most of us, sometimes encounter Usenet real-name
>> bigots. I ended up devoting a page at Blinkynet to this:
>>
>> http://blinkynet.net/comp/nicks.html
>
> Excellent page. I also like the comment about how your screen name came
> about!

Thanks, Enzo.

> I too have had problems caused by using my real name on usenet. When I first
> started posting to usenet I was in the RAF. I regularly used my real name on
> a model railway group. A couple of the young lads on my squadron decided to
> track the online activities of people that they knew and every morning used
> to put printouts of people's postings up on the noriceboard at work. In one
> incident I had cause to discipline one of my troops and he complained to the
> Flight Sergeant along the lines of "He has a train set. How am I expected to
> respect him?" I had an interview with the Flight Sergeant who explained
> that railway modelling isn't really conducive to maintaining military
> discipline and told me that I should abandon my hobby. I told him "Good luck
> with enforcing that order".
>
> Nevertheless, from that point on I started to use a screen name and have
> done so ever since.

That's a good example.


--
Blinky
Killing all posts from Google Groups
The Usenet Improvement Project: http://improve-usenet.org
Blinky: http://blinkynet.net

In article >,
Little Malice > wrote:
>One time on Usenet, (Charlotte L. Blackmer) said:
>> In article >, Ophelia > wrote:
>
><snip>
>
>> >If you were being attacked in this way, how long could you
>> >restrain yourself from defending yourself?
>>
>> Do a google groups search on my full name as a phrase - both with and
>> without the initial - and get back to me on that. I've had one particular
>> pet kook for over a dozen years now.
>
>Wow. I'm really sorry about that, Charlotte. I witnessed one death
>threat to a friend 12 years ago and it scared me enough to stop using
>my legal last name. I can't imagine what you've been through. I feel
>sort of cowardly now...

You know, I would never think you were. There are a lot of good reasons
to use pseudonyms, as I well know. Anyway, sometimes I am too damn
stubborn for my own good . There are plenty of people using
screen names who are "present as themselves" and not doing anything that
would qualify as "hiding behind a keyboard". That last is, of course, a
sad fact of internet life - it's a true mark of character to see what
someone does when s/he is assured of being able to "get away with it", and
many people on the Net fail that particular test.

In places with a good tradition of offline social interaction (like RFC!),
there's less of that nonsense. Long-term also helps.

(Mind you, Asshats Hiding Behind Keyboards are the reason that moderated
web fora are so popular these days. I think most of them have taken to
drive-by comments on blogs, or on news sites these days.)

If my kooks weren't basically cowards, I would have done the following:

1) filed a police report
2) change accounts and disappear for a while
3) target practice for self-defense

Now the thing I won't go anywhere near these days is posting from a
work account or through an employer's system (and that counts posting
through Google Groups). When I was first on usenet, I was on a company
account. (It was early days, so there was no AUP then. But I will note
that I was often there evenings doing system work.) It was, however,
scary when I acquired StalkerBoy by the simple expedient of turning down
his request for a date - he knew where I worked.

In later days, I have become one of those people who sets up that sort of
infrastructure at the office and investigates abuse reports, so I so
don't want to go there.

ObFood: Will read and interpret Internet headers for it.

Charlotte


--

Charlotte L. Blackmer wrote:
> In article >,
> Little Malice > wrote:
>> One time on Usenet, (Charlotte L. Blackmer) said:
>>> In article >, Ophelia > wrote:
>> <snip>
>>
>>>> If you were being attacked in this way, how long could you
>>>> restrain yourself from defending yourself?
>>> Do a google groups search on my full name as a phrase - both with and
>>> without the initial - and get back to me on that. I've had one particular
>>> pet kook for over a dozen years now.
>> Wow. I'm really sorry about that, Charlotte. I witnessed one death
>> threat to a friend 12 years ago and it scared me enough to stop using
>> my legal last name. I can't imagine what you've been through. I feel
>> sort of cowardly now...
>
> You know, I would never think you were. There are a lot of good reasons
> to use pseudonyms, as I well know. Anyway, sometimes I am too damn
> stubborn for my own good . There are plenty of people using
> screen names who are "present as themselves" and not doing anything that
> would qualify as "hiding behind a keyboard". That last is, of course, a
> sad fact of internet life - it's a true mark of character to see what
> someone does when s/he is assured of being able to "get away with it", and
> many people on the Net fail that particular test.
>
> In places with a good tradition of offline social interaction (like RFC!),
> there's less of that nonsense. Long-term also helps.
>
> (Mind you, Asshats Hiding Behind Keyboards are the reason that moderated
> web fora are so popular these days. I think most of them have taken to
> drive-by comments on blogs, or on news sites these days.)
>
> If my kooks weren't basically cowards, I would have done the following:
>
> 1) filed a police report
> 2) change accounts and disappear for a while
> 3) target practice for self-defense
>
> Now the thing I won't go anywhere near these days is posting from a
> work account or through an employer's system (and that counts posting
> through Google Groups). When I was first on usenet, I was on a company
> account. (It was early days, so there was no AUP then. But I will note
> that I was often there evenings doing system work.) It was, however,
> scary when I acquired StalkerBoy by the simple expedient of turning down
> his request for a date - he knew where I worked.
>
> In later days, I have become one of those people who sets up that sort of
> infrastructure at the office and investigates abuse reports, so I so
> don't want to go there.
>
> ObFood: Will read and interpret Internet headers for it.
>
> Charlotte
>
>
About 8 or 9 years ago an elderly woman who was a member of a mailing
list I used to run decided she was going to "get" me. Lots of foul
language, threats, etc. Banned her from the mailing list, started
getting emails direct. Finally called the police where she lived and
filed a complaint of stalking. In a few days they called me, had
arrested her, she was undergoing psychiatric testing. Ultimately they
let me know she had been hospitalized and was being treated for
schizophrenia. Some folks on the internet truly are kooks. Anyway I
never heard from her again and have no idea of the ultimate results of
her hospitalization.

I've been on the net for about 16 years now and that was the only run in
I've had. I reckon I'm just lucky. Oh yeah, I use my real name and email.

George

"George Shirley" > wrote
> About 8 or 9 years ago an elderly woman who was a member of a mailing list
> I used to run decided she was going to "get" me. Lots of foul language,
> threats, etc. Banned her from the mailing list, started getting emails
> direct. Finally called the police where she lived and filed a complaint of
> stalking. In a few days they called me, had arrested her

This is the way to nip it in the bud. I know it's hard to believe, but
even *I* have ****ed people off enough that they began stalking
me in RL.



--
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George Shirley wrote:
> Charlotte L. Blackmer wrote:
>> In article >,
>> Little Malice > wrote:
>>> One time on Usenet, (Charlotte L. Blackmer)
>>> said:
>>>> In article >, Ophelia
>>>> > wrote: <snip>
>>>
>>>>> If you were being attacked in this way, how long could you
>>>>> restrain yourself from defending yourself?
>>>> Do a google groups search on my full name as a phrase - both with
>>>> and without the initial - and get back to me on that. I've had
>>>> one particular pet kook for over a dozen years now.
>>> Wow. I'm really sorry about that, Charlotte. I witnessed one death
>>> threat to a friend 12 years ago and it scared me enough to stop
>>> using my legal last name. I can't imagine what you've been through.
>>> I feel sort of cowardly now...
>>
>> You know, I would never think you were. There are a lot of good
>> reasons to use pseudonyms, as I well know. Anyway, sometimes I am
>> too damn stubborn for my own good . There are plenty of people
>> using screen names who are "present as themselves" and not doing anything
>> that would qualify as "hiding behind a keyboard". That last is, of
>> course, a sad fact of internet life - it's a true mark of character
>> to see what someone does when s/he is assured of being able to "get
>> away with it", and many people on the Net fail that particular test.
>>
>> In places with a good tradition of offline social interaction (like
>> RFC!), there's less of that nonsense. Long-term also helps.
>>
>> (Mind you, Asshats Hiding Behind Keyboards are the reason that
>> moderated web fora are so popular these days. I think most of them
>> have taken to drive-by comments on blogs, or on news sites these
>> days.) If my kooks weren't basically cowards, I would have done the
>> following: 1) filed a police report
>> 2) change accounts and disappear for a while
>> 3) target practice for self-defense
>>
>> Now the thing I won't go anywhere near these days is posting from a
>> work account or through an employer's system (and that counts posting
>> through Google Groups). When I was first on usenet, I was on a
>> company account. (It was early days, so there was no AUP then. But
>> I will note that I was often there evenings doing system work.) It
>> was, however, scary when I acquired StalkerBoy by the simple
>> expedient of turning down his request for a date - he knew where I
>> worked. In later days, I have become one of those people who sets up that
>> sort of infrastructure at the office and investigates abuse reports,
>> so I so don't want to go there.
>>
>> ObFood: Will read and interpret Internet headers for it.
>>
>> Charlotte
>>
>>
> About 8 or 9 years ago an elderly woman who was a member of a mailing
> list I used to run decided she was going to "get" me. Lots of foul
> language, threats, etc. Banned her from the mailing list, started
> getting emails direct. Finally called the police where she lived and
> filed a complaint of stalking. In a few days they called me, had
> arrested her, she was undergoing psychiatric testing. Ultimately they
> let me know she had been hospitalized and was being treated for
> schizophrenia. Some folks on the internet truly are kooks. Anyway I
> never heard from her again and have no idea of the ultimate results of
> her hospitalization.

I would say you behaved responsibly and in fact acted in her best interests.

--
Enzo

I wear the cheese. It does not wear me.

"George Shirley" > wrote in message
...
> Charlotte L. Blackmer wrote:
>> In article >,
>> Little Malice > wrote:
>>> One time on Usenet, (Charlotte L. Blackmer) said:
>>>> In article >, Ophelia >
>>>> wrote:
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>>> If you were being attacked in this way, how long could you
>>>>> restrain yourself from defending yourself?
>>>> Do a google groups search on my full name as a phrase - both with and
>>>> without the initial - and get back to me on that. I've had one
>>>> particular pet kook for over a dozen years now.
>>> Wow. I'm really sorry about that, Charlotte. I witnessed one death
>>> threat to a friend 12 years ago and it scared me enough to stop using my
>>> legal last name. I can't imagine what you've been through. I feel sort
>>> of cowardly now...
>>
>> You know, I would never think you were. There are a lot of good reasons
>> to use pseudonyms, as I well know. Anyway, sometimes I am too damn
>> stubborn for my own good . There are plenty of people using screen
>> names who are "present as themselves" and not doing anything that would
>> qualify as "hiding behind a keyboard". That last is, of course, a sad
>> fact of internet life - it's a true mark of character to see what someone
>> does when s/he is assured of being able to "get away with it", and many
>> people on the Net fail that particular test.
>>
>> In places with a good tradition of offline social interaction (like
>> RFC!), there's less of that nonsense. Long-term also helps. (Mind you,
>> Asshats Hiding Behind Keyboards are the reason that moderated web fora
>> are so popular these days. I think most of them have taken to drive-by
>> comments on blogs, or on news sites these days.)
>>
>> If my kooks weren't basically cowards, I would have done the following:
>>
>> 1) filed a police report
>> 2) change accounts and disappear for a while
>> 3) target practice for self-defense
>>
>> Now the thing I won't go anywhere near these days is posting from a work
>> account or through an employer's system (and that counts posting through
>> Google Groups). When I was first on usenet, I was on a company account.
>> (It was early days, so there was no AUP then. But I will note that I was
>> often there evenings doing system work.) It was, however, scary when I
>> acquired StalkerBoy by the simple expedient of turning down his request
>> for a date - he knew where I worked. In later days, I have become one
>> of those people who sets up that sort of infrastructure at the office and
>> investigates abuse reports, so I so don't want to go there.
>>
>> ObFood: Will read and interpret Internet headers for it. Charlotte
>>
>>
> About 8 or 9 years ago an elderly woman who was a member of a mailing list
> I used to run decided she was going to "get" me. Lots of foul language,
> threats, etc. Banned her from the mailing list, started getting emails
> direct. Finally called the police where she lived and filed a complaint of
> stalking. In a few days they called me, had arrested her, she was
> undergoing psychiatric testing. Ultimately they let me know she had been
> hospitalized and was being treated for schizophrenia. Some folks on the
> internet truly are kooks. Anyway I never heard from her again and have no
> idea of the ultimate results of her hospitalization.
>

That is very interesting George. The police took your complaint seriously
then!!!


> I've been on the net for about 16 years now and that was the only run in
> I've had. I reckon I'm just lucky. Oh yeah, I use my real name and email.
>
> George

Enzo Matrix wrote:
> George Shirley wrote:
>> Charlotte L. Blackmer wrote:
>>> In article >,
>>> Little Malice > wrote:
>>>> One time on Usenet, (Charlotte L. Blackmer)
>>>> said:
>>>>> In article >, Ophelia
>>>>> > wrote: <snip>
>>>>>> If you were being attacked in this way, how long could you
>>>>>> restrain yourself from defending yourself?
>>>>> Do a google groups search on my full name as a phrase - both with
>>>>> and without the initial - and get back to me on that. I've had
>>>>> one particular pet kook for over a dozen years now.
>>>> Wow. I'm really sorry about that, Charlotte. I witnessed one death
>>>> threat to a friend 12 years ago and it scared me enough to stop
>>>> using my legal last name. I can't imagine what you've been through.
>>>> I feel sort of cowardly now...
>>> You know, I would never think you were. There are a lot of good
>>> reasons to use pseudonyms, as I well know. Anyway, sometimes I am
>>> too damn stubborn for my own good . There are plenty of people
>>> using screen names who are "present as themselves" and not doing anything
>>> that would qualify as "hiding behind a keyboard". That last is, of
>>> course, a sad fact of internet life - it's a true mark of character
>>> to see what someone does when s/he is assured of being able to "get
>>> away with it", and many people on the Net fail that particular test.
>>>
>>> In places with a good tradition of offline social interaction (like
>>> RFC!), there's less of that nonsense. Long-term also helps.
>>>
>>> (Mind you, Asshats Hiding Behind Keyboards are the reason that
>>> moderated web fora are so popular these days. I think most of them
>>> have taken to drive-by comments on blogs, or on news sites these
>>> days.) If my kooks weren't basically cowards, I would have done the
>>> following: 1) filed a police report
>>> 2) change accounts and disappear for a while
>>> 3) target practice for self-defense
>>>
>>> Now the thing I won't go anywhere near these days is posting from a
>>> work account or through an employer's system (and that counts posting
>>> through Google Groups). When I was first on usenet, I was on a
>>> company account. (It was early days, so there was no AUP then. But
>>> I will note that I was often there evenings doing system work.) It
>>> was, however, scary when I acquired StalkerBoy by the simple
>>> expedient of turning down his request for a date - he knew where I
>>> worked. In later days, I have become one of those people who sets up that
>>> sort of infrastructure at the office and investigates abuse reports,
>>> so I so don't want to go there.
>>>
>>> ObFood: Will read and interpret Internet headers for it.
>>>
>>> Charlotte
>>>
>>>
>> About 8 or 9 years ago an elderly woman who was a member of a mailing
>> list I used to run decided she was going to "get" me. Lots of foul
>> language, threats, etc. Banned her from the mailing list, started
>> getting emails direct. Finally called the police where she lived and
>> filed a complaint of stalking. In a few days they called me, had
>> arrested her, she was undergoing psychiatric testing. Ultimately they
>> let me know she had been hospitalized and was being treated for
>> schizophrenia. Some folks on the internet truly are kooks. Anyway I
>> never heard from her again and have no idea of the ultimate results of
>> her hospitalization.
>
> I would say you behaved responsibly and in fact acted in her best interests.
>
Thank you, others on that same mailing list thought I was cruel. Luckily
for them none of them decided to stalk me too. <BSEG>

"cybercat" > wrote in message
.. .
>
> "George Shirley" > wrote
>> About 8 or 9 years ago an elderly woman who was a member of a mailing
>> list I used to run decided she was going to "get" me. Lots of foul
>> language, threats, etc. Banned her from the mailing list, started getting
>> emails direct. Finally called the police where she lived and filed a
>> complaint of stalking. In a few days they called me, had arrested her
>
> This is the way to nip it in the bud. I know it's hard to believe, but
> even *I* have ****ed people off enough that they began stalking
> me in RL.

"Enzo Matrix" > wrote in message
...
> George Shirley wrote:
>> Charlotte L. Blackmer wrote:
>>> In article >,
>>> Little Malice > wrote:
>>>> One time on Usenet, (Charlotte L. Blackmer)
>>>> said:
>>>>> In article >, Ophelia
>>>>> > wrote: <snip>
>>>>
>>>>>> If you were being attacked in this way, how long could you
>>>>>> restrain yourself from defending yourself?
>>>>> Do a google groups search on my full name as a phrase - both with
>>>>> and without the initial - and get back to me on that. I've had
>>>>> one particular pet kook for over a dozen years now.
>>>> Wow. I'm really sorry about that, Charlotte. I witnessed one death
>>>> threat to a friend 12 years ago and it scared me enough to stop
>>>> using my legal last name. I can't imagine what you've been through.
>>>> I feel sort of cowardly now...
>>>
>>> You know, I would never think you were. There are a lot of good
>>> reasons to use pseudonyms, as I well know. Anyway, sometimes I am
>>> too damn stubborn for my own good . There are plenty of people
>>> using screen names who are "present as themselves" and not doing
>>> anything
>>> that would qualify as "hiding behind a keyboard". That last is, of
>>> course, a sad fact of internet life - it's a true mark of character
>>> to see what someone does when s/he is assured of being able to "get
>>> away with it", and many people on the Net fail that particular test.
>>>
>>> In places with a good tradition of offline social interaction (like
>>> RFC!), there's less of that nonsense. Long-term also helps.
>>>
>>> (Mind you, Asshats Hiding Behind Keyboards are the reason that
>>> moderated web fora are so popular these days. I think most of them
>>> have taken to drive-by comments on blogs, or on news sites these
>>> days.) If my kooks weren't basically cowards, I would have done the
>>> following: 1) filed a police report
>>> 2) change accounts and disappear for a while
>>> 3) target practice for self-defense
>>>
>>> Now the thing I won't go anywhere near these days is posting from a
>>> work account or through an employer's system (and that counts posting
>>> through Google Groups). When I was first on usenet, I was on a
>>> company account. (It was early days, so there was no AUP then. But
>>> I will note that I was often there evenings doing system work.) It
>>> was, however, scary when I acquired StalkerBoy by the simple
>>> expedient of turning down his request for a date - he knew where I
>>> worked. In later days, I have become one of those people who sets up
>>> that
>>> sort of infrastructure at the office and investigates abuse reports,
>>> so I so don't want to go there.
>>>
>>> ObFood: Will read and interpret Internet headers for it.
>>>
>>> Charlotte
>>>
>>>
>> About 8 or 9 years ago an elderly woman who was a member of a mailing
>> list I used to run decided she was going to "get" me. Lots of foul
>> language, threats, etc. Banned her from the mailing list, started
>> getting emails direct. Finally called the police where she lived and
>> filed a complaint of stalking. In a few days they called me, had
>> arrested her, she was undergoing psychiatric testing. Ultimately they
>> let me know she had been hospitalized and was being treated for
>> schizophrenia. Some folks on the internet truly are kooks. Anyway I
>> never heard from her again and have no idea of the ultimate results of
>> her hospitalization.
>
> I would say you behaved responsibly and in fact acted in her best
> interests.

Something to think about eh Enzo?

Ophelia wrote:
> "George Shirley" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Charlotte L. Blackmer wrote:
>>> In article >,
>>> Little Malice > wrote:
>>>> One time on Usenet, (Charlotte L. Blackmer) said:
>>>>> In article >, Ophelia >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>> <snip>
>>>>
>>>>>> If you were being attacked in this way, how long could you
>>>>>> restrain yourself from defending yourself?
>>>>> Do a google groups search on my full name as a phrase - both with and
>>>>> without the initial - and get back to me on that. I've had one
>>>>> particular pet kook for over a dozen years now.
>>>> Wow. I'm really sorry about that, Charlotte. I witnessed one death
>>>> threat to a friend 12 years ago and it scared me enough to stop using my
>>>> legal last name. I can't imagine what you've been through. I feel sort
>>>> of cowardly now...
>>> You know, I would never think you were. There are a lot of good reasons
>>> to use pseudonyms, as I well know. Anyway, sometimes I am too damn
>>> stubborn for my own good . There are plenty of people using screen
>>> names who are "present as themselves" and not doing anything that would
>>> qualify as "hiding behind a keyboard". That last is, of course, a sad
>>> fact of internet life - it's a true mark of character to see what someone
>>> does when s/he is assured of being able to "get away with it", and many
>>> people on the Net fail that particular test.
>>>
>>> In places with a good tradition of offline social interaction (like
>>> RFC!), there's less of that nonsense. Long-term also helps. (Mind you,
>>> Asshats Hiding Behind Keyboards are the reason that moderated web fora
>>> are so popular these days. I think most of them have taken to drive-by
>>> comments on blogs, or on news sites these days.)
>>>
>>> If my kooks weren't basically cowards, I would have done the following:
>>>
>>> 1) filed a police report
>>> 2) change accounts and disappear for a while
>>> 3) target practice for self-defense
>>>
>>> Now the thing I won't go anywhere near these days is posting from a work
>>> account or through an employer's system (and that counts posting through
>>> Google Groups). When I was first on usenet, I was on a company account.
>>> (It was early days, so there was no AUP then. But I will note that I was
>>> often there evenings doing system work.) It was, however, scary when I
>>> acquired StalkerBoy by the simple expedient of turning down his request
>>> for a date - he knew where I worked. In later days, I have become one
>>> of those people who sets up that sort of infrastructure at the office and
>>> investigates abuse reports, so I so don't want to go there.
>>>
>>> ObFood: Will read and interpret Internet headers for it. Charlotte
>>>
>>>
>> About 8 or 9 years ago an elderly woman who was a member of a mailing list
>> I used to run decided she was going to "get" me. Lots of foul language,
>> threats, etc. Banned her from the mailing list, started getting emails
>> direct. Finally called the police where she lived and filed a complaint of
>> stalking. In a few days they called me, had arrested her, she was
>> undergoing psychiatric testing. Ultimately they let me know she had been
>> hospitalized and was being treated for schizophrenia. Some folks on the
>> internet truly are kooks. Anyway I never heard from her again and have no
>> idea of the ultimate results of her hospitalization.
>>
>
> That is very interesting George. The police took your complaint seriously
> then!!!

I never asked and they didn't volunteer the information but I would be
willing to bet that she had a habit of doing the same thing to local folks.

A very dear friend has a paranoid schizophrenic son who is about 47 YO
now. When he's off his meds, which is frequent, he believes he is the
"Holy Spirit" and goes about telling people all sorts of things he's
going to do to them. As you would suspect he has been arrested several
times and sent off to the loony bin. He's there now and has been for
over a year, his longest stay yet. His poor mother worries about him
constantly but there's nothing she can do for him now. I don't think he
will ever come home again.

George

"George Shirley" > wrote in message
...
> Enzo Matrix wrote:
>> George Shirley wrote:
>>> Charlotte L. Blackmer wrote:
>>>> In article >,
>>>> Little Malice > wrote:
>>>>> One time on Usenet, (Charlotte L. Blackmer)
>>>>> said:
>>>>>> In article >, Ophelia
>>>>>> > wrote: <snip>
>>>>>>> If you were being attacked in this way, how long could you
>>>>>>> restrain yourself from defending yourself?
>>>>>> Do a google groups search on my full name as a phrase - both with
>>>>>> and without the initial - and get back to me on that. I've had
>>>>>> one particular pet kook for over a dozen years now.
>>>>> Wow. I'm really sorry about that, Charlotte. I witnessed one death
>>>>> threat to a friend 12 years ago and it scared me enough to stop
>>>>> using my legal last name. I can't imagine what you've been through.
>>>>> I feel sort of cowardly now...
>>>> You know, I would never think you were. There are a lot of good
>>>> reasons to use pseudonyms, as I well know. Anyway, sometimes I am
>>>> too damn stubborn for my own good . There are plenty of people
>>>> using screen names who are "present as themselves" and not doing
>>>> anything
>>>> that would qualify as "hiding behind a keyboard". That last is, of
>>>> course, a sad fact of internet life - it's a true mark of character
>>>> to see what someone does when s/he is assured of being able to "get
>>>> away with it", and many people on the Net fail that particular test.
>>>>
>>>> In places with a good tradition of offline social interaction (like
>>>> RFC!), there's less of that nonsense. Long-term also helps.
>>>>
>>>> (Mind you, Asshats Hiding Behind Keyboards are the reason that
>>>> moderated web fora are so popular these days. I think most of them
>>>> have taken to drive-by comments on blogs, or on news sites these
>>>> days.) If my kooks weren't basically cowards, I would have done the
>>>> following: 1) filed a police report
>>>> 2) change accounts and disappear for a while
>>>> 3) target practice for self-defense
>>>>
>>>> Now the thing I won't go anywhere near these days is posting from a
>>>> work account or through an employer's system (and that counts posting
>>>> through Google Groups). When I was first on usenet, I was on a
>>>> company account. (It was early days, so there was no AUP then. But
>>>> I will note that I was often there evenings doing system work.) It
>>>> was, however, scary when I acquired StalkerBoy by the simple
>>>> expedient of turning down his request for a date - he knew where I
>>>> worked. In later days, I have become one of those people who sets up
>>>> that
>>>> sort of infrastructure at the office and investigates abuse reports,
>>>> so I so don't want to go there.
>>>>
>>>> ObFood: Will read and interpret Internet headers for it.
>>>>
>>>> Charlotte
>>>>
>>>>
>>> About 8 or 9 years ago an elderly woman who was a member of a mailing
>>> list I used to run decided she was going to "get" me. Lots of foul
>>> language, threats, etc. Banned her from the mailing list, started
>>> getting emails direct. Finally called the police where she lived and
>>> filed a complaint of stalking. In a few days they called me, had
>>> arrested her, she was undergoing psychiatric testing. Ultimately they
>>> let me know she had been hospitalized and was being treated for
>>> schizophrenia. Some folks on the internet truly are kooks. Anyway I
>>> never heard from her again and have no idea of the ultimate results of
>>> her hospitalization.
>>
>> I would say you behaved responsibly and in fact acted in her best
>> interests.
>>
> Thank you, others on that same mailing list thought I was cruel. Luckily
> for them none of them decided to stalk me too. <BSEG>

Well I don't think you were cruel. I am seriously thinking of taking my
little stalker to the police.

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
> "cybercat" > wrote in message
> .. .
>>
>> "George Shirley" > wrote
>>> About 8 or 9 years ago an elderly woman who was a member of a mailing
>>> list I used to run decided she was going to "get" me. Lots of foul
>>> language, threats, etc. Banned her from the mailing list, started
>>> getting emails direct. Finally called the police where she lived and
>>> filed a complaint of stalking. In a few days they called me, had
>>> arrested her
>>
>> This is the way to nip it in the bud. I know it's hard to believe, but
>> even *I* have ****ed people off enough that they began stalking
>> me in RL.
>
>
>

I know! Hard to believe, isn't it?



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"cybercat" > wrote in message
.. .
>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "cybercat" > wrote in message
>> .. .
>>>
>>> "George Shirley" > wrote
>>>> About 8 or 9 years ago an elderly woman who was a member of a mailing
>>>> list I used to run decided she was going to "get" me. Lots of foul
>>>> language, threats, etc. Banned her from the mailing list, started
>>>> getting emails direct. Finally called the police where she lived and
>>>> filed a complaint of stalking. In a few days they called me, had
>>>> arrested her
>>>
>>> This is the way to nip it in the bud. I know it's hard to believe, but
>>> even *I* have ****ed people off enough that they began stalking
>>> me in RL.
>>
>>
>>
>
> I know! Hard to believe, isn't it?

Yes it is!!!!! I can't see how you could possibly **** anyone off!!!!!!!!!!

On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:14:43 -0000, "Ophelia" > wrote:

>
>"cybercat" > wrote in message

>> I know! Hard to believe, isn't it?
>
>Yes it is!!!!! I can't see how you could possibly **** anyone off!!!!!!!!!!

<laugh>

"Lou Decruss" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:14:43 -0000, "Ophelia" > wrote:
>
>>
>>"cybercat" > wrote in message
>
>>> I know! Hard to believe, isn't it?
>>
>>Yes it is!!!!! I can't see how you could possibly **** anyone
>>off!!!!!!!!!!
>
> <laugh>

You have one of Greg's pubies caught in your teeth.

Just looking out for you.



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Lou Decruss wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:14:43 -0000, "Ophelia" > wrote:
>
>>
>> "cybercat" > wrote in message
>
>>> I know! Hard to believe, isn't it?
>>
>> Yes it is!!!!! I can't see how you could possibly **** anyone
>> off!!!!!!!!!!
>
> <laugh>

Unless of course those who are ****ed off are illiterate or thick <G>

In article >,
George Shirley > wrote:
>Charlotte L. Blackmer wrote:
>> If my kooks weren't basically cowards, I would have done the following:
>>
>> 1) filed a police report
>> 2) change accounts and disappear for a while
>> 3) target practice for self-defense

>About 8 or 9 years ago an elderly woman who was a member of a mailing
>list I used to run decided she was going to "get" me. Lots of foul
>language, threats, etc. Banned her from the mailing list, started
>getting emails direct. Finally called the police where she lived and
>filed a complaint of stalking. In a few days they called me, had
>arrested her, she was undergoing psychiatric testing. Ultimately they
>let me know she had been hospitalized and was being treated for
>schizophrenia. Some folks on the internet truly are kooks. Anyway I
>never heard from her again and have no idea of the ultimate results of
>her hospitalization.

George, I'm impressed. Hopefully she got the help she needed.

The one time I tried filing a police report for something more
complicated than "wierd phone calls" nobody really wanted to claim
jurisdiction (n.b. this was within the same state) and passed me around.

Similar with a much more severe net.stalking episode I know about,
although the victim was able to get property records sealed so stalker
couldn't do the usual trick of paying for a public records search.

ObFood: I just had some Starr Ridge peanut butter shortbread cookies - on
closeout special at Berkeley Bowl - and OH MY GOD they're good. Melt in
the mouth. I am trying to save the remainder to see if my 1 year old
friend will eat them - he is switching from formula to
people-food-suitable-for-people-with-2.5-teeth and his mom is slightly
frustrated at finding things he will eat. (Today's discovery: he
likes buttered toast. MUCH rejoicing. I think the next plan is Mashed
Potatoes, with and without additions.)

Charlotte
--

Charlotte L. Blackmer wrote:
> I am trying to save the remainder to see if my 1
> year old friend will eat them - he is switching from formula to
> people-food-suitable-for-people-with-2.5-teeth and his mom is slightly
> frustrated at finding things he will eat. (Today's discovery: he
> likes buttered toast. MUCH rejoicing. I think the next plan is
> Mashed Potatoes, with and without additions.)

See if he likes soft boiled eggs, then he can have eggy brekky!

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In article >,
Enzo Matrix > wrote:
>Charlotte L. Blackmer wrote:
>> I am trying to save the remainder to see if my 1
>> year old friend will eat them - he is switching from formula to
>> people-food-suitable-for-people-with-2.5-teeth and his mom is slightly
>> frustrated at finding things he will eat. (Today's discovery: he
>> likes buttered toast. MUCH rejoicing. I think the next plan is
>> Mashed Potatoes, with and without additions.)
>
>See if he likes soft boiled eggs, then he can have eggy brekky!

Thanks. He turned his nose up at scrambled recently but I'll suggest this
(and sliced hard boiled) to the Parental Units.

Presently the things he will eat without spitting them out are toast,
bananas, carrots, cheese crackers such as Goldfish, and YoBaby yogurt. I
hope the mashed potato experiment goes well and might try bringing over
half a roast chicken.

Charlotte



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"Charlotte L. Blackmer" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> Enzo Matrix > wrote:
>>Charlotte L. Blackmer wrote:
>>> I am trying to save the remainder to see if my 1
>>> year old friend will eat them - he is switching from formula to
>>> people-food-suitable-for-people-with-2.5-teeth and his mom is slightly
>>> frustrated at finding things he will eat. (Today's discovery: he
>>> likes buttered toast. MUCH rejoicing. I think the next plan is
>>> Mashed Potatoes, with and without additions.)
>>
>>See if he likes soft boiled eggs, then he can have eggy brekky!
>
> Thanks. He turned his nose up at scrambled recently but I'll suggest this
> (and sliced hard boiled) to the Parental Units.
>
> Presently the things he will eat without spitting them out are toast,
> bananas, carrots, cheese crackers such as Goldfish, and YoBaby yogurt. I
> hope the mashed potato experiment goes well and might try bringing over
> half a roast chicken.
>
> Charlotte

For the baby?? ))

Have they tried broccoli yet? My grandaughter loved it. I was the
first to give her ice cream and some key lime pie, and she broke out in
song. It was like "Where have you been hiding this?"

Libby

Charlotte L. Blackmer wrote:


> ObFood: I just had some Starr Ridge peanut butter shortbread cookies - on
> closeout special at Berkeley Bowl - and OH MY GOD they're good. Melt in
> the mouth. I am trying to save the remainder to see if my 1 year old
> friend will eat them - he is switching from formula to
> people-food-suitable-for-people-with-2.5-teeth and his mom is slightly
> frustrated at finding things he will eat. (Today's discovery: he
> likes buttered toast. MUCH rejoicing. I think the next plan is Mashed
> Potatoes, with and without additions.)

I used to make pumpkin custard for mine. One can solid pack pumpkin
puree, one can sweetened condensed milk, two eggs, beaten. Combine and
bake at 350 until you can stick a butter knife in it and pull it out
clean. You've got your milk, your protein and your yellow veggie all in
one yummy dish.

Other things they liked - steamed fresh veggies, especially diced
carrots or peas. Paper-thin sliced bites of whatever meat the rest of
us were having, and/or allowing baby to gum a bone while under strict
supervision. Mine loved t-bones and chicken drumstick bones. They
taste good, feel good to inflamed, teething gums, and introduce new flavors.

Mashed potatoes, roasted sweet potatoes. Buttered bread. Pancakes.
Sliced and diced bits of fresh fruit. Don't give whole grapes or
cherries - too easy to choke on. Cooked pasta tossed with a little
butter or olive oil and parmesan cheese (look for finger friendly shapes).

In article >,
Kathleen > wrote:
>Charlotte L. Blackmer wrote:
>
>
>> ObFood: I just had some Starr Ridge peanut butter shortbread cookies - on
>> closeout special at Berkeley Bowl - and OH MY GOD they're good. Melt in
>> the mouth. I am trying to save the remainder to see if my 1 year old
>> friend will eat them - he is switching from formula to
>> people-food-suitable-for-people-with-2.5-teeth and his mom is slightly
>> frustrated at finding things he will eat. (Today's discovery: he
>> likes buttered toast. MUCH rejoicing. I think the next plan is Mashed
>> Potatoes, with and without additions.)
>
>I used to make pumpkin custard for mine. One can solid pack pumpkin
>puree, one can sweetened condensed milk, two eggs, beaten. Combine and
>bake at 350 until you can stick a butter knife in it and pull it out
>clean. You've got your milk, your protein and your yellow veggie all in
>one yummy dish.

Man, that sounds good! I have pumpkin and s.c. milk so I might make it
for him. I think his parents would like eating it if he doesn't like it
(but he likes sweet potato, so he should).

>Other things they liked - steamed fresh veggies, especially diced
>carrots or peas.

I've seen him eat sliced buttered carrots - well, about half of them ended
up on the floor, but enough of them ended up inside to call it a success.

>Paper-thin sliced bites of whatever meat the rest of
>us were having, and/or allowing baby to gum a bone while under strict
>supervision. Mine loved t-bones and chicken drumstick bones. They
>taste good, feel good to inflamed, teething gums, and introduce new flavors.

mmmm

He's getting 1-2 teeth in right now, which is no doubt part of the issue.
(He enthusiastically gummed the dried veggie chips - carrot, taro, sweet
potato - I served on Sunday. He didn't swallow any, but they were
pretty crispy to start with. He did swallow the Goldfish.)

>Mashed potatoes, roasted sweet potatoes. Buttered bread. Pancakes.
>Sliced and diced bits of fresh fruit.

He loves bananas. Not so hot on other fruits right now. Maybe a texture
thing? (hmmmm banana custard maybe?)

mmmm pancakes

>Don't give whole grapes or
>cherries - too easy to choke on. Cooked pasta tossed with a little
>butter or olive oil and parmesan cheese (look for finger friendly shapes).

Yeah, his mom says she's trying to keep the 'airplane' routine down to a
minimum while he's learning to wield his own spoon.

Thanks for your excellent suggestions!

Charlotte
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On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 17:56:55 +0000 (UTC),
(Charlotte L. Blackmer) wrote:

>
>Yeah, his mom says she's trying to keep the 'airplane' routine down to a
>minimum while he's learning to wield his own spoon.

Does Mom use one of these or her mini-chopper?
http://www.babyworks.com/catalog/ass.../food_mill.jpg

As far as food coming out of the mouth, that's what babies who are
used to drinking their food do - they haven't developed the correct
tongue action for chewing yet. Oh, the other thing they do a lot is
make faces at new tastes. Give him time to process the new taste.
Scrape it off his chin and put it back into his mouth! I think many
parents turn their kids into picky eaters by whisking away new foods
too quickly.

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