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> Save Robert Irvine!
>
> Visit the http://saverobert.bravehost.com for information and a
> petition to save Robert Irvine's job on the Food Network.

Screw Irvine.

He didn't make mistakes in his past. He made mistakes in the present. If
he's still trotting out the same old exaggerations for the Food Network,
that's a now, not a then. He's a sham. He's an unconvincing sham. And
he's not a likable presence at all. The sooner he's gone, the better.

On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 20:39:59 -0700, Pennyaline
> wrote:

wrote:
>> Save Robert Irvine!
>>
>> Visit the http://saverobert.bravehost.com for information and a
>> petition to save Robert Irvine's job on the Food Network.
>
>Screw Irvine.
>
>He didn't make mistakes in his past. He made mistakes in the present. If
>he's still trotting out the same old exaggerations for the Food Network,
>that's a now, not a then. He's a sham. He's an unconvincing sham. And
>he's not a likable presence at all. The sooner he's gone, the better.

Here's how important he is to me: Who the heck *IS* he? Please don't
answer, because I don't care.

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> wrote in message
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> Save Robert Irvine!
>
> Visit the http://saverobert.bravehost.com for information and a
> petition to save Robert Irvine's job on the Food Network.
>

The guy had more lies on his resume than truth and his lies transcended into
utter fantasy. He claimed to be a Knight of the Real, the highest honor
there is in Britain, and he claimed that on top of that QE2 gave him a
castle. I mean this is bizarre shit and the guy has a screw loose. And he
was involved in a really dubious venture in Florida that appears he was
lying his ass off to get some investors to pony up a couple million bucks to
finance his 2 restaurant ideas.

The guy has crook written all over him. He needs to go away. Do we have
ANY standards left in this country anymore? Or is it all just a matter of
who makes the most bucks and for whom?

Paul

"Paul M. Cook" > wrote

> The guy had more lies on his resume than truth and his lies transcended
> into utter fantasy. He claimed to be a Knight of the Real, the highest
> honor there is in Britain, and he claimed that on top of that QE2 gave him
> a castle. I mean this is bizarre shit and the guy has a screw loose.

If someone came at you with a resume listing these credentials,
wouldn't you check out these claims right after you stopped
laughing? It's ludicrous to think anyone believed it.

nancy

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote
>
>> The guy had more lies on his resume than truth and his lies transcended
>> into utter fantasy. He claimed to be a Knight of the Real, the highest
>> honor there is in Britain, and he claimed that on top of that QE2 gave
>> him a castle. I mean this is bizarre shit and the guy has a screw loose.
>
> If someone came at you with a resume listing these credentials,
> wouldn't you check out these claims right after you stopped
> laughing? It's ludicrous to think anyone believed it.


I've heard of people with GEDs claiming PhDs on resumes and they aren't
found out for 20 years. Incompetence is endemic.

Paul

"Paul M. Cook" > wrote

> "Nancy Young" > wrote

>> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote
>>
>>> The guy had more lies on his resume than truth and his lies transcended
>>> into utter fantasy. He claimed to be a Knight of the Real, the highest
>>> honor there is in Britain, and he claimed that on top of that QE2 gave
>>> him a castle. I mean this is bizarre shit and the guy has a screw
>>> loose.
>>
>> If someone came at you with a resume listing these credentials,
>> wouldn't you check out these claims right after you stopped
>> laughing? It's ludicrous to think anyone believed it.

> I've heard of people with GEDs claiming PhDs on resumes and they aren't
> found out for 20 years. Incompetence is endemic.

Yeah, that's relatively common, but when you have the Queen
of England giving you castles, that's a special touch. You really
must have a flair for suspending reality if you believe this guy was
telling a real story.

nancy

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 7 Mar 2008 00:15:39 -0500, Nancy Young wrote:
>
>> Yeah, that's relatively common, but when you have the Queen
>> of England giving you castles, that's a special touch. You really
>> must have a flair for suspending reality if you believe this guy was
>> telling a real story.
>
> <laugh> Not everyone gets a castle but lives in an apartment in
> Florida.
>
> -sw

But... but... castles are so drafty! LOL

Jill

On Fri 07 Mar 2008 05:24:05a, jmcquown told us...

>
> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Fri, 7 Mar 2008 00:15:39 -0500, Nancy Young wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, that's relatively common, but when you have the Queen
>>> of England giving you castles, that's a special touch. You really
>>> must have a flair for suspending reality if you believe this guy was
>>> telling a real story.
>>
>> <laugh> Not everyone gets a castle but lives in an apartment in
>> Florida.
>>
>> -sw
>
> But... but... castles are so drafty! LOL
>
> Jill
>
>

But if the castle was in Florida, it would be a warm draft. :-)

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"Paul M. Cook" wrote:
>
> "Nancy Young" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Paul M. Cook" > wrote
> >
> >> The guy had more lies on his resume than truth and his lies transcended
> >> into utter fantasy. He claimed to be a Knight of the Real, the highest
> >> honor there is in Britain, and he claimed that on top of that QE2 gave
> >> him a castle. I mean this is bizarre shit and the guy has a screw loose.
> >
> > If someone came at you with a resume listing these credentials,
> > wouldn't you check out these claims right after you stopped
> > laughing? It's ludicrous to think anyone believed it.
>
> I've heard of people with GEDs claiming PhDs on resumes and they aren't
> found out for 20 years. Incompetence is endemic.
>
> Paul

A lot of people have degrees and claim to have a clue as well, but
don't. Anyone who blindly believes what someone has written down,
without objective validation gets what they deserve.

jmcquown wrote:
> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Fri, 7 Mar 2008 00:15:39 -0500, Nancy Young wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, that's relatively common, but when you have the Queen
>>> of England giving you castles, that's a special touch. You really
>>> must have a flair for suspending reality if you believe this guy was
>>> telling a real story.
>>
>> <laugh> Not everyone gets a castle but lives in an apartment in
>> Florida.
>>
>> -sw
>
> But... but... castles are so drafty! LOL

I am so sorry to hear your castle is drafty Jill. Mine is lovely and cosy
<G>

In article <v44Aj.12939$6R.7927@trnddc04>,
"Paul M. Cook" > wrote:

> I've heard of people with GEDs claiming PhDs on resumes and they aren't
> found out for 20 years. Incompetence is endemic.
>
> Paul

That doesn't say much for the folks who DO have the PhDs, if the
impostors can get away with the lie for 20 years. . . . "-)
Sometimes the stated requirements for a job are kind of extreme.

--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://www.jamlady.eboard.com; I Think I've Seen it All, 2/24/2008

In article >,
"Nancy Young" > wrote:

> Yeah, that's relatively common, but when you have the Queen
> of England giving you castles, that's a special touch. You really
> must have a flair for suspending reality if you believe this guy was
> telling a real story.
>
> nancy


ROTFL! That's a great string of words, Nancy, starting with, ". . .
that's a special touch." LOL!

OB coffee: A splash of Nestle's chocolate syrup in the mug, a squirt of
amaretto creamer, then the coffee. The magic elixir.
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://www.jamlady.eboard.com; I Think I've Seen it All, 2/24/2008

Michael "Dog3" wrote:
> "Ophelia" > dropped this
> : in rec.food.cooking
>
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>> But... but... castles are so drafty! LOL
>>
>> I am so sorry to hear your castle is drafty Jill. Mine is lovely and
>> cosy <G>
>
> Part of mine is dusty and ripped to shreds ;(

Oh poor lamb. Never mind, you may share mine

Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>
> In article <v44Aj.12939$6R.7927@trnddc04>,
> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote:
>
> > I've heard of people with GEDs claiming PhDs on resumes and they aren't
> > found out for 20 years. Incompetence is endemic.
> >
> > Paul
>
> That doesn't say much for the folks who DO have the PhDs, if the
> impostors can get away with the lie for 20 years. . . . "-)
> Sometimes the stated requirements for a job are kind of extreme.

Blame the HR departments and upper manglement for that. The actual
managers of the departments that need the particular employee specify
the job requirements, and the the HR and manglement loons grossly
inflate the requirements far beyond any reasonable requirement of the
actual job. I heard one case some time ago when a trucking company tried
to require it's drivers to have degrees. That idiotic requirement didn't
last long...

"Pete C." > wrote

> Blame the HR departments and upper manglement for that. The actual
> managers of the departments that need the particular employee specify
> the job requirements, and the the HR and manglement loons grossly
> inflate the requirements far beyond any reasonable requirement of the
> actual job.

Did you see Dilbert the other day? They got some guy who
actually had the unbelievable qualifications that had been listed
for some job and the interviewer says to him, That's just another
way of saying you're old.

Cracked me up.

nancy

In article >,
"Nancy Young" > wrote:

> If someone came at you with a resume listing these credentials,
> wouldn't you check out these claims right after you stopped
> laughing? It's ludicrous to think anyone believed it.
>
> nancy

Amen. I have to wonder at all of this. Did FoodTV not fire the
worthless HR person who vetted his resume? Was that HR hack the same
person who dealt with scrunchy-face marine boys resume on their reality
show? Bizarre office work at its finest.

marcella

On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 23:41:08 -0600, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Fri, 7 Mar 2008 00:15:39 -0500, Nancy Young wrote:
>
>> Yeah, that's relatively common, but when you have the Queen
>> of England giving you castles, that's a special touch. You really
>> must have a flair for suspending reality if you believe this guy was
>> telling a real story.
>
><laugh> Not everyone gets a castle but lives in an apartment in
>Florida.
>
>-sw

i guess the weather is nicer.

your pal,
blake

On Fri, 07 Mar 2008 13:16:53 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>On Fri 07 Mar 2008 05:24:05a, jmcquown told us...
>
>>
>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Fri, 7 Mar 2008 00:15:39 -0500, Nancy Young wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yeah, that's relatively common, but when you have the Queen
>>>> of England giving you castles, that's a special touch. You really
>>>> must have a flair for suspending reality if you believe this guy was
>>>> telling a real story.
>>>
>>> <laugh> Not everyone gets a castle but lives in an apartment in
>>> Florida.
>>>
>>> -sw
>>
>> But... but... castles are so drafty! LOL
>>
>> Jill
>>
>>
>
>But if the castle was in Florida, it would be a warm draft. :-)

i thought the castles in florida were made of sand.

your pal,
jimi

In article >,
"Pete C." > wrote:

> Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> >
> > In article <v44Aj.12939$6R.7927@trnddc04>,
> > "Paul M. Cook" > wrote:
> >
> > > I've heard of people with GEDs claiming PhDs on resumes and they aren't
> > > found out for 20 years. Incompetence is endemic.
> > >
> > > Paul
> >
> > That doesn't say much for the folks who DO have the PhDs, if the
> > impostors can get away with the lie for 20 years. . . . "-)
> > Sometimes the stated requirements for a job are kind of extreme.
>
> Blame the HR departments and upper manglement for that. The actual
> managers of the departments that need the particular employee specify
> the job requirements, and the the HR and manglement loons grossly
> inflate the requirements far beyond any reasonable requirement of the
> actual job. I heard one case some time ago when a trucking company tried
> to require it's drivers to have degrees. That idiotic requirement didn't
> last long...


Sure. Dumb requirements, indeed. Some of it came about because
stating a particular academic credential was supposed to cut down on the
number of resumes that we poor HR schlubs had to wade through before
forwarding possible live ones to the hiring manager.
--
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Even if you don't believe, pray for Amy today
and let the docs at Mayo strut their stuff

On Fri 07 Mar 2008 10:49:57a, blake murphy told us...

> On Fri, 07 Mar 2008 13:16:53 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> > wrote:
>
>>On Fri 07 Mar 2008 05:24:05a, jmcquown told us...
>>
>>>
>>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Fri, 7 Mar 2008 00:15:39 -0500, Nancy Young wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, that's relatively common, but when you have the Queen
>>>>> of England giving you castles, that's a special touch. You really
>>>>> must have a flair for suspending reality if you believe this guy was
>>>>> telling a real story.
>>>>
>>>> <laugh> Not everyone gets a castle but lives in an apartment in
>>>> Florida.
>>>>
>>>> -sw
>>>
>>> But... but... castles are so drafty! LOL
>>>
>>> Jill
>>>
>>>
>>
>>But if the castle was in Florida, it would be a warm draft. :-)
>
> i thought the castles in florida were made of sand.
>
> your pal,
> jimi
>

Yes, but somewhat more substantial than air castles.

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wrote:
>
> Save Robert Irvine!

Okay. What preserving recipe do you have in mind?
I'm thinking pickling salts.

Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>
> In article >,
> "Pete C." > wrote:
>
> > Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> > >
> > > In article <v44Aj.12939$6R.7927@trnddc04>,
> > > "Paul M. Cook" > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I've heard of people with GEDs claiming PhDs on resumes and they aren't
> > > > found out for 20 years. Incompetence is endemic.
> > > >
> > > > Paul
> > >
> > > That doesn't say much for the folks who DO have the PhDs, if the
> > > impostors can get away with the lie for 20 years. . . . "-)
> > > Sometimes the stated requirements for a job are kind of extreme.
> >
> > Blame the HR departments and upper manglement for that. The actual
> > managers of the departments that need the particular employee specify
> > the job requirements, and the the HR and manglement loons grossly
> > inflate the requirements far beyond any reasonable requirement of the
> > actual job. I heard one case some time ago when a trucking company tried
> > to require it's drivers to have degrees. That idiotic requirement didn't
> > last long...
>
> Sure. Dumb requirements, indeed. Some of it came about because
> stating a particular academic credential was supposed to cut down on the
> number of resumes that we poor HR schlubs had to wade through before
> forwarding possible live ones to the hiring manager.

Yep, citing academic credentials that have absolutely no relevance to
the job in question, so you poor HR schlubs can avoid actually having to
understand anything about the job in question or the relevant
credentials.

I've been on several search committees, and I can assure you that if we
had imposed some of the absurd requirements I've seen on similar job
postings, we would never have found a single competent person to fill
the positions.

"Marcella Peek" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "Nancy Young" > wrote:
>
>> If someone came at you with a resume listing these credentials,
>> wouldn't you check out these claims right after you stopped
>> laughing? It's ludicrous to think anyone believed it.
>>
>> nancy
>
> Amen. I have to wonder at all of this. Did FoodTV not fire the
> worthless HR person who vetted his resume? Was that HR hack the same
> person who dealt with scrunchy-face marine boys resume on their reality
> show? Bizarre office work at its finest.
>

I thought this exact thing. What idiot hired him that they couldn't check
his resume. Two cookbooks does not a spectacular chef make. I was surprised
that he didn't just do the resume for a laugh and when they didn't laugh he
didn't clarify.

Having worked HR in a small office we checked every employment location
listed unless they weren't in business anymore or it had been more than 10
years. Education was checked and certifications had to be proven. Granted it
was a medical field, but we just didn't hire based on pretty words on a
piece of paper.

Cindi
> marcella

"Michael "Dog3"" > wrote in message
6.121...
> "Paul M. Cook" > dropped this
> news:NR3Aj.12868$6R.917@trnddc04: in rec.food.cooking
>
>>
>> The guy has crook written all over him. He needs to go away. Do we
>> have ANY standards left in this country anymore? Or is it all just a
>> matter of who makes the most bucks and for whom?
>
> I'm guessing he'll make a big come back and become a huge success. For
> some unknown reason people seem to bounce back. I could never understand
> it. Just off the top of my head come Marion Barry just to name one. Here
> in St. Louis there was the City Comptroller that continued to be
> re-elected
> time and again in spite of the allegations against him. It was so long ago
> I can't remember what charges were eventually brought. I think he did
> time. The one thing I clearly remember was he was convicted (I think
> convicted) of embezzling money from his then 7yo nephew's trust fund.

Louisiana, where we once hung our hats, was notorius for electing criminals
into government offices. Edwin Edwards for one. He was indicted, acquitted,
indicted, and imprisoned. Great guy huh? And of course the legacy of the
Longs, corrupt to the core.

When Governor Edwards was indicted during one of his terms the joke was that
they couldn't convict Edwards because they couldn't find 12 people in
Louisiana who thought stealing was a crime.

Cindi

>
> I just don't understand the fascination people have with scumbags. I
> predict Irvine will find an audience... somewhere... that will support
> him.
>
> Michael
>
> --
> "Ingredients as fresh as they were 27 years ago."
> - Slogan of the Biscuitville restaurant.
>
> To email - michael at lonergan dot us dot com

"Cindi - HappyMamatoThree" > wrote in message
> Having worked HR in a small office we checked every employment location
> listed unless they weren't in business anymore or it had been more than 10
> years. Education was checked and certifications had to be proven. Granted
> it was a medical field, but we just didn't hire based on pretty words on a
> piece of paper.
>
> Cindi


Medical credentials probably should be checked more than a draftsman,
secretary or shipper, but the resume tells little of a person's character or
real ability. I've had a few great looking resumes and god references, but
they turned out to be terrible in actual real life work. One of my best
hires gives a terrible resume and mediocre interview skills, but he is top
notch at what he does. Been with us 10 years now.

"Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote in message
et...
>
> "Cindi - HappyMamatoThree" > wrote in
> message
>> Having worked HR in a small office we checked every employment location
>> listed unless they weren't in business anymore or it had been more than
>> 10 years. Education was checked and certifications had to be proven.
>> Granted it was a medical field, but we just didn't hire based on pretty
>> words on a piece of paper.
>>
>> Cindi
>
>
> Medical credentials probably should be checked more than a draftsman,
> secretary or shipper, but the resume tells little of a person's character
> or real ability. I've had a few great looking resumes and god references,
> but they turned out to be terrible in actual real life work. One of my
> best hires gives a terrible resume and mediocre interview skills, but he
> is top notch at what he does. Been with us 10 years now.
>
It is difficult to always be able to know what you're getting even after a
resume, interview, etcetera. We did rely on recomendations from other
offices but we were lucky that the medical community was pretty tight and
most would provide reliable recommendations. It's so hard to see who will be
a good match with other employees and in the job itself. Perhaps Food
Network didn't even bother to look at the resume, they just filed it away
and went just going on the buzz in the Celebrity Cooking community. Why read
the resume when Emeril gives him a good nod?

Cindi

Janet wrote on Sat, 8 Mar 2008 16:56:04 GMT:

??>> . I've had a few great looking resumes and god references,
??>> but they turned out to be terrible in actual real life
??>> work.

JB> Sometimes, a previous employer has deliberately given some
JB> incompetent idiot a glowing reference, to get rid of him.
JB> We call it "kicking someone up stairs". If they can kick
JB> someone upstairs to a rival company, it's like killing two
JB> birds with one stone :-)

I don't know what the limits are on this sort of thing but, if
you are terminating someone for pilfering, you could be liable
if you say they are honest in a reference.

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

E-mail, with obvious alterations:
not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

"James Silverton" > wrote in message
>
> I don't know what the limits are on this sort of thing but, if you are
> terminating someone for pilfering, you could be liable if you say they are
> honest in a reference.
>

Many places won't give a reference, good or bad, for that reason.

"Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote in message
news
>
> "James Silverton" > wrote in message
>>
>> I don't know what the limits are on this sort of thing but, if you are
>> terminating someone for pilfering, you could be liable if you say they
>> are honest in a reference.
>>
>
> Many places won't give a reference, good or bad, for that reason.
True, a lot of places will only confirm a person worked there from X date to
X date. Nothing more. And that goes for anyone who used to work there,
even if they quit.

Jill

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:

> Medical credentials probably should be checked more than a draftsman,
> secretary or shipper, but the resume tells little of a person's character or
> real ability. I've had a few great looking resumes and god references, but
> they turned out to be terrible in actual real life work. One of my best
> hires gives a terrible resume and mediocre interview skills, but he is top
> notch at what he does. Been with us 10 years now.
>
So what did he have going for him that prompted you to hire him?
Seriously... I'm curious? I know someone who was a teacher for 20 years
with a Masters degree in Education. Due to some depression and other
issues she has a horrible time explaining why she quit teaching and is
now doing menial labor yet is trying to get back into teaching. Getting
that interview has been difficult.

jmcquown wrote:

>> Many places won't give a reference, good or bad, for that reason.
> True, a lot of places will only confirm a person worked there from X
> date to X date. Nothing more. And that goes for anyone who used to
> work there, even if they quit.
>
> Jill

That is where the question "Would you rehire this person" comes in
handy, I hear?

"Goomba38" > wrote in message

>> One of my best hires gives a terrible resume and mediocre interview
>> skills, but he is top notch at what he does. Been with us 10 years now.
> So what did he have going for him that prompted you to hire him?
> Seriously... I'm curious? I know someone who was a teacher for 20 years
> with a Masters degree in Education. Due to some depression and other
> issues she has a horrible time explaining why she quit teaching and is now
> doing menial labor yet is trying to get back into teaching. Getting that
> interview has been difficult.

I was looking for mechanical ability, not an English major or a customer
contact person. You have to first set your sights on the fact that many
great mechanics are poor spellers and don't know what side of the paper a
resume should be printed on. While the ability to get along with others is
a big plus, a bubbly personality is not required for some jobs. The guy had
some experience mechanically, was at his last job for quite a few years, so
I gave him a try. It worked. Very well

I've also hired people with great resumes and good interviews that did not
work out.

About a dozen years ago, I hired a young guy with limited experience
flipping burgers. I was not going to even talk to him, but the secretary
asked me to because she though he'd be good for us. (she had a hunch) We
really needed somebody so I hired him to work in shipping and warehouse.
The second shift supervisor met him and mumbles "they give me all the
retards". This guy appeared to be a bit slow. After a couple of months we
had an opening on first shift and that same supervisor said, "you're not
going to take XXX away from me are you? He's the best guy I've ever had."

He is now the shipping supervisor, is a great organizer of space, is
accurate and can do math in his head that is unheard of by today's
graduates. When you tell him something new, he has to repeat it back to
you, sometimes twice, to be sure. Then he never forgets it. First
impressions can be deceiving and I've learned to slow down, think about what
potential a person may have, and give a chance.

On Mar 7, 10:19�am, "Michael \"Dog3\"" > wrote:
> "Paul M. Cook" > dropped thisnews:NR3Aj.12868$6R.917@trnddc04:in rec.food.cooking
>
>
>
> > The guy has crook written all over him. �He needs to go away. �Do we
> > have ANY standards left in this country anymore? �Or is it all just a
> > matter of who makes the most bucks and for whom?
>
> I'm guessing he'll make a big come back and become a huge success. �For
> some unknown reason people seem to bounce back. �I could never understand
> it. �Just off the top of my head come Marion Barry just to name one. �Here
> in St. Louis there was the City Comptroller that continued to be re-elected
> time and again in spite of the allegations against him. It was so long ago
> I can't remember what charges were eventually brought. �I think he did
> time. The one thing I clearly remember was he was convicted (I think
> convicted) of embezzling money from his then 7yo nephew's trust fund.
>
> I just don't understand the fascination people have with scumbags.

What's to be confused... people have always been facinated with
organized crime... politicians are legalized crime... no difference.
Name me one politician who's not a criminal, you can't... for starters
they steal their pay checks, they're all on the take/payola, and they
all have their henchmen. I see no difference between an elected
official and a "made" crime boss. There's no voting in the US, first
hardly anyone casts a ballot, second the counting is done in private,
third, they toss all the ballots in the trash and employ strongarm
tactics on the flunkies who pick... it's all a charade.

Goomba38 wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>
>>> Many places won't give a reference, good or bad, for that reason.
>> True, a lot of places will only confirm a person worked there from X
>> date to X date. Nothing more. And that goes for anyone who used to
>> work there, even if they quit.
>>
>
> That is where the question "Would you rehire this person" comes in
> handy, I hear?
>
True! But there was one company I worked for, I resigned after 3 years to
pursue other interests. My immediate boss would have answered "yes" to the
rehire question in a heartbeat. His father, who was the president of this
business, wouldn't hire *anyone* back; he just couldn't understand why
anyone would want to leave and they certainly weren't welcome to come back.
Takes all kinds.

Jill