Nancy Young wrote:

>
> "Hoges in WA" > wrote
>
>> I just tried what you did and got rid of about a thousand. I've been
>> watching the other suggestions in this thread also and most of the spam
>> now doesn't show up with word filters in the "News Rules". Looks a lot
>> cleaner now.
>
> It makes such a difference. I keep an eye out for legitimate posters from
> gmail and exclude them from the rule. I hate the thought of losing Karen
> due to something out of my control. Please don't leave.

Or filter on GG itself, and not on gmail.

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jmcquown wrote:

> Nancy Young wrote:
>> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote ...
>>> On Tue 11 Mar 2008 05:27:41a, Nancy Young told us...
>>
>>>> It makes such a difference. I keep an eye out for legitimate posters
>>>> from gmail and exclude them from the rule. I hate the thought of
>>>> losing Karen due to something out of my control. Please don't leave.
>>
>>> I thought you controlled everything, Nancy. :-)
>>
>> Ha! If I did, you wouldn't see people saying things like sammies and
>> shrooms, now, would you?
>>
>> Heh. nancy
>>
> Not to mention EVOO <giggling>

I don't mind convenient initialisms like EVOO, and I don't mind 'shrooms
(at least in the psychoactive context), but I hate baby-talk like
"sammies" and "sgabetti" from adults.


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On 2008-03-11, Blinky the Shark > wrote:

> Millions of them, and they're remappable. Like slrn's. Except you can
> reassign them via the native GUI.

Actually, Blinky, like you, I mostly use linux and slrn/jed is my preferred
client. But, I have to occasionally use an XP box and don't like any of the
windows apps, much. I installed emacs for windows to use gnus, but have been unable
to get it (gnus) working. I could use slrn, but would have to install jed,
too, which is a pain on windows. Damn, I hate M$!

nb

Karen AKA Kajikit wrote:

> This group is so overrun with spam nowadays that I can't even find the
> real messages amongst the dross, no matter how many different
> kill-filters I make to try and get rid of it. I could ignore it while
> it was just a small flow, but there's ten times as much 'noise' as
> 'signal'! Agent doesn't have the ability to filter posts by domain,
> just by author or subject, so I give up.

news.individual.net plus my filters gets the bulk of it.




Brian

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kilikini wrote:
> Karen AKA Kajikit wrote:
>> This group is so overrun with spam nowadays that I can't even find the
>> real messages amongst the dross, no matter how many different
>> kill-filters I make to try and get rid of it. I could ignore it while
>> it was just a small flow, but there's ten times as much 'noise' as
>> 'signal'! Agent doesn't have the ability to filter posts by domain,
>> just by author or subject, so I give up.
>
> I finally killed every gmail post. I can't keep up with killfiling words
> anymore.
>
> kili
>
>

Can you see this?

-dk

hahabogus > wrote in
:

> If using xnews don't forget in your -9999 section of the
> score.ini the ever faithful
>
> ~Subject= .*[a-z]
>
> which blows away anything that doesn't have at least 1
> lowercase character in the subject header

Thanks! I can use that.

Ophelia wrote:

> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>> Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>>> Dave Bugg <Dave Bugg >> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I used to do that as well. The problem has grown so much in recent
>>>>> months that Karen is right, you can hardly find the 'real' posts
>>>>> that dwell amongst all the 'spam' posts.
>>>>
>>>> And 8 months ago when I told everyone I was killfiling Google Groups
>>>> many of you thought I was full of shit and to just do whatever the
>>>> hell I needed to - but the general consensus was that I was being
>>>> ridiculous.
>>>>
>>>> I told my detractors at that time that they'd see it my way in a few
>>>> months. So now it's time for me to gloat :-P
>>>
>>> I always say, there is nowt like a good gloat!
>>
>> And the best thing is that if you can't find any locally, there's
>> tons of it available online.
>
> Maybe, but I am sending the best of all from Yorkshire

Mmmmmmm! Yorkshire gloat.


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Paul M. Cook wrote:

> "Dave Bugg" > wrote in message
> news:_VrBj.6438$y83.1750@trndny06...
> > Sqwertz wrote:
> >> Dave Bugg <Dave Bugg >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I used to do that as well. The problem has grown so much in recent
> >>> months that Karen is right, you can hardly find the 'real' posts
> >>> that dwell amongst all the 'spam' posts.
> >>
> >> And 8 months ago when I told everyone I was killfiling Google Groups
> >> many of you thought I was full of shit and to just do whatever the
> >> hell I needed to - but the general consensus was that I was being
> >> ridiculous.
> >>
> >> I told my detractors at that time that they'd see it my way in a few
> >> months. So now it's time for me to gloat :-P
> >
> > A bit of balsamic goes well with gloat :-)
>
>
> Mix the balsamic with either ground peanuts or peanut butter (either one,
> whichever you can afford) and make a rub and massage it into the gloat
then
> cook it on a grill. A hot flaming grill is best.


And believe me, Steve knows all about "flaming"...!!!

;-p


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we are some
kind of comedy team turns my stomach."
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Default User wrote:

> Karen AKA Kajikit wrote:
>
>> This group is so overrun with spam nowadays that I can't even find the
>> real messages amongst the dross, no matter how many different
>> kill-filters I make to try and get rid of it. I could ignore it while
>> it was just a small flow, but there's ten times as much 'noise' as
>> 'signal'! Agent doesn't have the ability to filter posts by domain,
>> just by author or subject, so I give up.
>
> news.individual.net plus my filters gets the bulk of it.

Here's another vote for NIN.

No, not the damn band. Kids...hrmmph. And get off my lawn.


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Pinocchio - Schnozzed Sqwertz LIES:

> Sheldon <Sheldon >> wrote:
>
> > sqwetz in particular who
> > knows ZERO but is one of ths worst cross posting offenders here.
>
> Uh, that would be your buddy Gregory Morrow.


Nope, I rarely cross - post in this group, an exception would be the recent
discussion the louche "Capitalist Pig" character...

I *do* cross - post in other groups, but those are generally groups I hold
in low regard anyways and in those cases I'm mostly trolling. I hold this
group in a higher regard and so I put the kibbosh on cross - posting unless
it's for a gen - u - wine good purpose.

And unlike *you*, Steve, I don't lower myself to resorting to making asinine
"comebacks" to spam posts here...something which you *routinely* do. Also,
unlike you I am not a cross - *dresser*, LOL...

Best not to lie, Steve - remember from your Sunday Skool daze what the Good
Book sez about little boys who lie when they ultimately appear knocking at
the Gate 'O Heaven...BEWARE!


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O' Feel Up decries:

> Karen AKA Kajikit wrote:
> > I tried it and it got rid of 456 messages at one go. I didn't know you
> > could do that... I just hope that it actually works and gets rid of
> > enough junk that I have a prayer of reading the group again.
>
> The problem for me is, that some lovely people here post from google and I
> am not willing to miss their posts. I can see the junk and I just ignore
> it.


Like most here do with your *posts*, O' Feel Up...

:-)


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On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 12:23:40 -0400, "Nancy Young" >
wrote:

>
>"jmcquown" > wrote
>
>> Nancy Young wrote:
>>> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote
>>> ...
>>>> On Tue 11 Mar 2008 05:27:41a, Nancy Young told us...
>>>
>>>>> It makes such a difference. I keep an eye out for legitimate
>>>>> posters from gmail and exclude them from the rule. I hate the
>>>>> thought of losing Karen due to something out of my control. Please
>>>>> don't leave.
>>>
>>>> I thought you controlled everything, Nancy. :-)
>>>
>>> Ha! If I did, you wouldn't see people saying things like sammies
>>> and shrooms, now, would you?
>
>> Not to mention EVOO <giggling>
>
>(laugh) Or, Where's it at? That disgusting Campbell's soup ad campaign
>with the slurping guy would vanish, along with (screeching) We tried
>grounding you! Tutoring! BOOM! it would blow up.
>
>See? I obviously don't control everything.
>
>nancy
>

it's misdirection. you allow these minor irritations to divert
people's attention from your despotic rule.

your pal,
karl

On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:13:24 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>Sheldon <Sheldon >> wrote:
>
>> Karen AKA Kajikit wrote:
>>>
>>> This group is so overrun with spam nowadays that I can't even find the
>>> real messages amongst the dross, no matter how many different
>>> kill-filters I make to try and get rid of it. I could ignore it while
>>> it was just a small flow, but there's ten times as much 'noise' as
>>> 'signal'! Agent doesn't have the ability to filter posts by domain,
>>> just by author or subject, so I give up.
>>
>> This spate is 100pct the result of YOOSE cross posting and no other
>> reason whatsoever, NONE! Everytime you reply to a cross posted post
>> you regenerate the post to many, many, many usenet groups...l; in
>> essense you're trolling for bombers.
>
>What a load of crap. Crossposting has absolutely ZERO to do with
>all the spam this group receives. The trolling and crossposting are
>less than 1% of the unsolicited noise in here.
>
>I have up trying to figure out how your mind works a long time ago.
>You need a Service Pack, or something.
>
>-sw

i think more an erase and reformat.

your pal,
blake

Blinky the Shark wrote:

> Default User wrote:

> > news.individual.net plus my filters gets the bulk of it.
>
> Here's another vote for NIN.

Yeah. It can be instructive to look at the newsgroup with GG from time
to time just to see what it would be like unfiltered. Why Google
doesn't do a better job is unknown. NIN barely gets paid for their
service, yet they manage to filter pretty well.

> No, not the damn band. Kids...hrmmph. And get off my lawn.

I know, I've run into that ambiguity.





Brian

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blake murphy <blake murphy >> wrote:

> On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:13:24 -0500, Sqwertz >
> wrote:
>
>>I gave up trying to figure out how your mind works a long time ago.
>>You need a Service Pack, or something.
>
> i think more an erase and reformat.

It may be a BIOS or other hardware problem, too.

-sw

Default User wrote:

> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>
>> Default User wrote:
>
>> > news.individual.net plus my filters gets the bulk of it.
>>
>> Here's another vote for NIN.
>
> Yeah. It can be instructive to look at the newsgroup with GG from time
> to time just to see what it would be like unfiltered. Why Google
> doesn't do a better job is unknown. NIN barely gets paid for their
> service, yet they manage to filter pretty well.

And they have good response time to spews like hipcrime stuff, as well.


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"Sqwertz" > wrote

> And 8 months ago when I told everyone I was killfiling Google Groups
> many of you thought I was full of shit and to just do whatever the
> hell I needed to - but the general consensus was that I was being
> ridiculous.
>
> I told my detractors at that time that they'd see it my way in a few
> months. So now it's time for me to gloat :-P

I started doing same at last. Almost 40% reduction in number of posts now,
but seems the real threads are here. I did it after nting several days were
50
% of the posts seemed @gmail related spam.

I dont need some OP telling me yet again, 'i'ts not gmail, it;s google
groups'. I filter with the tools I have and few people of note were still
using @gmail accounts to post. Most folks who care enough about being
heard, moved off the @gmail addresses when people started blocking the whole
set.

"Blinky the Shark" wrote
>> I started doing same at last.
>
> Not according to the rest of your post. You seem to be filtering gmail
> users instead. Make up your mind.

One, get a politeness clue. 2 dont reference a post then deliberately
delete what you reference.

I filter out all @gmail. If you want to play games with words on what that
is, play it with someone else.

"Blinky the Shark" > wrote in message

Blinky, I never said I was doing other than filtering @gmail. Perhaps you
misread my post?

cshenk wrote:

>
> "Sqwertz" > wrote
>
>> And 8 months ago when I told everyone I was killfiling Google Groups
>> many of you thought I was full of shit and to just do whatever the
>> hell I needed to - but the general consensus was that I was being
>> ridiculous.
>>
>> I told my detractors at that time that they'd see it my way in a few
>> months. So now it's time for me to gloat :-P
>
> I started doing same at last.

Not according to the rest of your post. You seem to be filtering gmail
users instead. Make up your mind.


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cshenk wrote:

> "Blinky the Shark" wrote
> >> I started doing same at last.
>>
>> Not according to the rest of your post. You seem to be filtering gmail
>> users instead. Make up your mind.
>
> One, get a politeness clue. 2 dont reference a post then deliberately
> delete what you reference.

You went on about not wanting to hear (fingers in ears, humming "la la la
la la") that GG filtering is superior to gmail filtering. I did not
include that because *I did not say anything about that thing that you
wish to igonre*. I merely pointed out that you made two completely
conflicting claims about how you were filtering.

> I filter out all @gmail. If you want to play games with words on what
> that is, play it with someone else.

It's not a word game. gmail is simply not GG. Similarly, dogs are not
cats; but I suppose you consider that statement a word game, too. What
you did was make two completely conflicting claims in that post. Don't
blame me for catching that; it was really obvious.


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Sqwertz > wrote:

> What a load of crap. Crossposting has absolutely ZERO to do with
> all the spam this group receives. The trolling and crossposting are
> less than 1% of the unsolicited noise in here.

Funny, my primary filter is to limit crossposts to 1 other group
and I don't see much spam or flame war garbage at all. There does
seem to be a somewhat persistent spammer in the past few days that
has not been crossposting, but that is easy to skip or selectively
filter until he/she/it goes away.

By far that majority of flames are crossposted, and much of the spam.
Spammers are lazy, so they crosspost a lot.


Bill Ranck
Blacksburg, Va.

cshenk wrote:

>
> "Blinky the Shark" > wrote in message
>
> Blinky, I never said I was doing other than filtering @gmail. Perhaps you
> misread my post?

No, I didn't.

Sqwerts was talking about filtering GG posts. Excerpt:

....I told everyone I was killfiling Google Groups...

The firt line of your directy response to his post began:

I started doing same at last.

Then, you want on to explain that (as you acknowledge above) you were
actually filtering on gmail addresses.

That's why I said this wasn't a word game, as you accused. That's why I
pointed out that those are not the same strategies.


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Blinky the Shark wrote:

> cshenk wrote:
>
>>
>> "Blinky the Shark" > wrote in message
>>
>> Blinky, I never said I was doing other than filtering @gmail. Perhaps you
>> misread my post?
>
> No, I didn't.
>
> Sqwerts was talking about filtering GG posts. Excerpt:
>
> ...I told everyone I was killfiling Google Groups...
>
> The firt line of your directy response to his post began:

It's hard typing with fins. "first" and "direct"

> I started doing same at last.
>
> Then, you want on to explain that (as you acknowledge above) you were
> actually filtering on gmail addresses.
>
> That's why I said this wasn't a word game, as you accused. That's why I
> pointed out that those are not the same strategies.
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Blinky the Shark wrote:
> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>
>> cshenk wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Blinky the Shark" > wrote in message
>>>
>>> Blinky, I never said I was doing other than filtering @gmail.
>>> Perhaps you misread my post?
>>
>> No, I didn't.
>>
>> Sqwerts was talking about filtering GG posts. Excerpt:
>>
>> ...I told everyone I was killfiling Google Groups...
>>
>> The firt line of your directy response to his post began:
>
> It's hard typing with fins. "first" and "direct"

ROTFLOL!!!

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ranck wrote:

> Sqwertz > wrote:
>
>> What a load of crap. Crossposting has absolutely ZERO to do with
>> all the spam this group receives. The trolling and crossposting are
>> less than 1% of the unsolicited noise in here.
>
> Funny, my primary filter is to limit crossposts to 1 other group
> and I don't see much spam or flame war garbage at all. There does
> seem to be a somewhat persistent spammer in the past few days that
> has not been crossposting, but that is easy to skip or selectively
> filter until he/she/it goes away.

Can you identify one of its spam posts for me? I haven't seen them, and I
want to take a look at headers. A Message-ID header would be useful, but
I'll take a From header. Thanks!


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Blinky the Shark <Blinky the Shark >> wrote:

> Sqwerts was talking about filtering GG posts. Excerpt:

Ahem. It's 'sqwertZ' (*). It's a 126-point word when used as the
first play of Scrabble, and I don't appreciate people going around
just throwing away important letters like this willy-nilly.

-sw

(*) Its slated for the 7th edition of Scrabble Official Words if I
keep up my Usenet reputation.

>> wrote:

> Sqwertz > wrote:
>
>> What a load of crap. Crossposting has absolutely ZERO to do with
>> all the spam this group receives. The trolling and crossposting are
>> less than 1% of the unsolicited noise in here.
>
> Funny, my primary filter is to limit crossposts to 1 other group
> and I don't see much spam or flame war garbage at all.

I kill everything over 3 groups.

> By far that majority of flames are crossposted, and much of the spam.

I see all the flames and they're all localized to RFC. Sometimes I
see hints of other crap, usually involving Gregory, but they must be
posted to 4 or more groups.

> Spammers are lazy, so they crosspost a lot.

All this spam from Google is robot-generated. And the non-Google
spm is only ever posted to one group at a time from what I see.

But then we have to ask - how would either of us know this is we
kill crossposts?

ObFood: 'Souper Salad's' Green Goddess dressing is very good. At
the Wednesday buffet special is only $4.99 (with purchase of a
drink).

-sw

ChattyCathy wrote:
> Richard Green wrote:
>
>
>> Well. I give up too!!!
>> I use Thunderbird and I just added " to my cutom filters
>> (from - is - @gmail.com - delete) and the last ****** -
>> still showed up. I give in.
>>
>> Richard.
>
> That's because you have do it as [from - ends with - @gmail.com -
> delete] - just tested it - works just fine that way if that's what you
> want to do.
>

Just wanted to say thanks for the tip. I added some filters using your
method and I can now see actual posts instead of spam.
Wahoo!!

Thanks!
George