On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 01:44:16 GMT, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>Wayne Boatwright <Wayne Boatwright
>> wrote:
>
>> On Tue 11 Mar 2008 04:18:42p, Abe told us...
>>
>>>>I've been buying gorgeous asparagus for $.98, $.99, and $1.00 per pound at
>>>>various stores. I think I've been through 10 lbs. in the past two weeks.
>>>>:-) I've grilled some, roasted some, and steamed some with butter ald
>>>>:lemon juice. I'm usually too impatient to make the hollandaise.
>>>
>>> 10 pounds! Wayne, Gee your pee smells terrific ;-)
>>
>> LOL! Actually, I seem to be one of those few people whose pee doesn't seem
>> affected by asparagus. I also drink a lot of water throughout the day, and
>> it's probably much more dilute.
>
>They say it only affects 50% of the people. I drink over a gallon
>of plain water a day and that doesn't matter. It's pretty much
>immediate - on my first pee right after I eat it.
>
>-sw

apparently it's a genetic thing,

<http://www.scq.ubc.ca/quarterly015/0105king.html>

....like cilantro tasting like soap to some people.

your pal,
blake

KevinS <KevinS >> wrote:

> On Mar 11, 1:11�pm, Little Malice wrote:
>
>> Wait, wait -- what's aCroqueMonsieur? It looks tasty...
>
> Picture a grilled ham and gruyere sandwich, only
> the bread has been dipped in a beaten egg mixture
> before grilling so the finished product has an eggy, unsweetened
> French toast component. Sometimes
> served with a cheesy white sauce.

No egg for a croque monsieur. That's a Monte Cristo.

It's a grilled ham and cheese topped with more cheese and a white
sauce (made with more cheese). The one pictured is a double decker
made with Blarney Castle and cheddar cheeses, home made ham, with
romano and more blarney in the sauce. Then broiled.

-sw

One time on Usenet, Sqwertz > said:
> KevinS <KevinS >> wrote:
>
> > On Mar 11, 1:11�pm, Little Malice wrote:
> >
> >> Wait, wait -- what's aCroqueMonsieur? It looks tasty...
> >
> > Picture a grilled ham and gruyere sandwich, only
> > the bread has been dipped in a beaten egg mixture
> > before grilling so the finished product has an eggy, unsweetened
> > French toast component. Sometimes
> > served with a cheesy white sauce.
>
> No egg for a croque monsieur. That's a Monte Cristo.

Oh Lordy, I love those. Best one I ever had was in a Chinese
restaurant.

> It's a grilled ham and cheese topped with more cheese and a white
> sauce (made with more cheese). The one pictured is a double decker
> made with Blarney Castle and cheddar cheeses, home made ham, with
> romano and more blarney in the sauce. Then broiled.

I had to look up Blarney Castle cheese, but I'm glad I did:

"Blarney Castle is a semi-soft cheese with a mild flavor and creamy
texture similar to a young Gouda."

Sounds wonderful, as does your sandwich...

--
Jani in WA

Little Malice <Little Malice >> wrote:

> One time on Usenet, Sqwertz > said:
>
>> It's a grilled ham and cheese topped with more cheese and a white
>> sauce (made with more cheese). The one pictured is a double decker
>> made with Blarney Castle and cheddar cheeses, home made ham, with
>> romano and more blarney in the sauce. Then broiled.
>
> I had to look up Blarney Castle cheese, but I'm glad I did:
>
> "Blarney Castle is a semi-soft cheese with a mild flavor and creamy
> texture similar to a young Gouda."

There are several brands of "Blarney" cheese, but I think only the
Kerrygold brand is called "Blarney Castle" cheese. One site says
it's produced at the castle itself using cows grazing on it's land,
but I don't see how several different dairies can be operating on
the grounds of the castle.

Some sites also claim it a round waxed cheese. The Kerrtygold stuff
is very mass-produced - especially if they're selling it at CostCo
for $4.85/lb.

Joel - do you have an entry for Blarney cheese in that book of
yours?

[Yes, I'm guilty of crossposting. Sheldon is right - I am a
crossposting scumbag singlehandedly responsible for inviting
spammers selling handbags into RFC]

BTW: CostCo is carryoing three Irish cheeses, Kerrygold butter and I
forget which brand of raw corned beef this month. The beef wasn't
too cheap ($4/lb? It BETTER be good for that price)

-sw

Blinky the Shark <Blinky the Shark >> wrote:

> I thought Croque Monseiur was a fuzzy bleu character on "Rue de Sesame".

That's Monstre Bisquit.

-sw

Little Malice wrote:

> One time on Usenet, Sqwertz > said:
>> KevinS <KevinS >> wrote:
>>
>> > On Mar 11, 1:11�pm, Little Malice wrote:
>> >
>> >> Wait, wait -- what's aCroqueMonsieur? It looks tasty...
>> >
>> > Picture a grilled ham and gruyere sandwich, only the bread has been
>> > dipped in a beaten egg mixture before grilling so the finished product
>> > has an eggy, unsweetened French toast component. Sometimes
>> > served with a cheesy white sauce.
>>
>> No egg for a croque monsieur. That's a Monte Cristo.
>
> Oh Lordy, I love those. Best one I ever had was in a Chinese restaurant.

I thought Croque Monseiur was a fuzzy bleu character on "Rue de Sesame".


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"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> Little Malice <Little Malice >> wrote:
>
>> One time on Usenet, Sqwertz > said:
>>
>>> It's a grilled ham and cheese topped with more cheese and a white
>>> sauce (made with more cheese). The one pictured is a double decker
>>> made with Blarney Castle and cheddar cheeses, home made ham, with
>>> romano and more blarney in the sauce. Then broiled.
>>
>> I had to look up Blarney Castle cheese, but I'm glad I did:
>>
>> "Blarney Castle is a semi-soft cheese with a mild flavor and creamy
>> texture similar to a young Gouda."
>
> There are several brands of "Blarney" cheese, but I think only the
> Kerrygold brand is called "Blarney Castle" cheese. One site says
> it's produced at the castle itself using cows grazing on it's land,
> but I don't see how several different dairies can be operating on
> the grounds of the castle.
>
> Some sites also claim it a round waxed cheese. The Kerrtygold stuff
> is very mass-produced - especially if they're selling it at CostCo
> for $4.85/lb.
>
> Joel - do you have an entry for Blarney cheese in that book of
> yours?
>
> [Yes, I'm guilty of crossposting. Sheldon is right - I am a
> crossposting scumbag singlehandedly responsible for inviting
> spammers selling handbags into RFC]
>
> BTW: CostCo is carryoing three Irish cheeses, Kerrygold butter and I
> forget which brand of raw corned beef this month. The beef wasn't
> too cheap ($4/lb? It BETTER be good for that price)
>
> -sw

Sorrry, neither that nor Kerrygold. But the book was old, even before
the reprinting in 1953.

kilikini <kilikini >> wrote:

> I've been finding asparagus at $1.99 a pound, too, lately. I've got enough
> broken off stems to make a soup. (I'm really excited!) Glad you're finding
> cheaper asparagus than you would in TN.

Yum. Asparagus pee soup!

-sw

kilikini <kilikini >> wrote:

> Sqwertz wrote:
>> kilikini <kilikini >> wrote:
>>
>>> I've been finding asparagus at $1.99 a pound, too, lately. I've got
>>> enough broken off stems to make a soup. (I'm really excited!) Glad
>>> you're finding cheaper asparagus than you would in TN.
>>
>> Yum. Asparagus pee soup!
>
> Oh, now that was just too funny. ROFL!

Stop trying to butter me up in an attempt to avoid answering my
email!

-sw (suspicious)

kilikini wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>> Had to stop by Publix to pick up a couple of items and ran across
>> asparagus at $1.99/lb. That's the lowest I've seen in quite some
>> time! And it's not that micro-thin wimpy looking asparagus, either
>> Quite nice looking so snagged a couple of bunches. I know I'll
>> be steaming one bunch and will probably make hollandaise sauce to go
>> with it. The other, well... there's a hibachi in the garage (some
>> assembly required LOL). Maybe I'll pick up some charcoal. Otherwise
>> the broiler will do. Bacon wrapped, maybe...
>
> I've been finding asparagus at $1.99 a pound, too, lately. I've got
> enough broken off stems to make a soup. (I'm really excited!) Glad
> you're finding cheaper asparagus than you would in TN.
>
Thanks, but I'm not sure it's cheaper than TN (at the moment). I suppose I
could call home and ask

I'm having trouble adjusting to what is much more close to truly seasonal
produce. With the exception of what I think of as "staple" produce
(lettuces, onions, potatoes, tomatoes - which don't look great yet -, bell
peppers and celery) I can't find much here right now.

In Memphis I can find winter squash year round. Not here; it disappeared
from grocery shelves right after I got here. But the summer squash hasn't
quite come in yet, either. And what I do find they've already packaged for
you. You want yellow squash (or zucchini), what's in the package is what
you get. If it's not enough squash (say, for a casserole), you gotta buy
two packages. If it's more squash than you want, tough luck. I do NOT like
that.

I did notice in the sale flyer today broccoli & cauliflower are on sale -
two bunches (or heads) for $4, which isn't a bad price compared to what I'm
used to; I'll have to see how it looks when I shop again tomorrow or
Saturday.

Jill

kilikini wrote:

>> I did notice in the sale flyer today broccoli & cauliflower are on
>> sale - two bunches (or heads) for $4, which isn't a bad price
>> compared to what I'm used to; I'll have to see how it looks when I
>> shop again tomorrow or Saturday.
>>
>> Jill
>
> Huh, I just saw yellow squash and zucchini for $.99 a pound - I was just
> *this* close to picking it up. (I love sauteed squash with a bit of garlic
> and parmesan. Toss it over pasta and you've got a great meal!)
>
> kili

I've never been in an area that didn't have basic yellow crookneck
squash and zucchini year round?
Jill- drive your mom over to the military commissary and see what they
have. Call first to see if they're checking ID's at the door or just the
register. Mine is at the register so anyone can get in.

Goomba38 wrote:
> kilikini wrote:
>
>>> I did notice in the sale flyer today broccoli & cauliflower are on
>>> sale - two bunches (or heads) for $4, which isn't a bad price
>>> compared to what I'm used to; I'll have to see how it looks when I
>>> shop again tomorrow or Saturday.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> Huh, I just saw yellow squash and zucchini for $.99 a pound - I was
>> just *this* close to picking it up. (I love sauteed squash with a
>> bit of garlic and parmesan. Toss it over pasta and you've got a
>> great meal!) kili
>
> I've never been in an area that didn't have basic yellow crookneck
> squash and zucchini year round?
>
I was very surprised to discover it's not all over the place (and that it's
sold pre-packaged!), Goomba. As I said, I don't like the pre-packaging
thing. I want to be able to pick and choose my own, not buy something
someone in the store put on a styrofoam plate and shrink-wrapped.

> Jill- drive your mom over to the military commissary and see what they
> have. Call first to see if they're checking ID's at the door or just
> the register. Mine is at the register so anyone can get in.
>
Oh, I can get in, no problem. But I can tell you from experience, they
don't have great produce either. LOL And with the price of gas at
$3.15/gal. it's really not worth the drive to Parris Island just to look for
squash.

Some consolation is the first of the shrimp are coming in. When I was in
Publix last week they had some freshly caught that day. Granted, it was
$12.99/lb. for medium (still pretty big) shrimp. The price will go down
once the season gets in full swing. <G> They had fresh mussels, too. I
forget the price, but I sure can't find fresh mussels in Memphis!

Jill

On Mar 13, 4:25*pm, "jmcquown" > wrote:
> Goomba38 wrote:
> > kilikini wrote:
>
> >>> I did notice in the sale flyer today broccoli & cauliflower are on
> >>> sale - two bunches (or heads) for $4, which isn't a bad price
> >>> compared to what I'm used to; I'll have to see how it looks when I
> >>> shop again tomorrow or Saturday.
>
> >>> Jill
>
> >> Huh, I just saw yellow squash and zucchini for $.99 a pound - I was
> >> just *this* close to picking it up. *(I love sauteed squash with a
> >> bit of garlic and parmesan. *Toss it over pasta and you've got a
> >> great meal!) kili
>
> > I've never been in an area that didn't have basic yellow crookneck
> > squash and zucchini year round?
>
> I was very surprised to discover it's not all over the place (and that it's
> sold pre-packaged!), Goomba. *As I said, I don't like the pre-packaging
> thing. *I want to be able to pick and choose my own, not buy something
> someone in the store put on a styrofoam plate and shrink-wrapped.
>
> > Jill- drive your mom over to the military commissary and see what they
> > have. Call first to see if they're checking ID's at the door or just
> > the register. Mine is at the register so anyone can get in.
>
> Oh, I can get in, no problem. *But I can tell you from experience, they
> don't have great produce either. *LOL *And with the price of gas at
> $3.15/gal. it's really not worth the drive to Parris Island just to look for
> squash.
>
> Some consolation is the first of the shrimp are coming in. *When I was in
> Publix last week they had some freshly caught that day. *Granted, it was
> $12.99/lb. for medium (still pretty big) shrimp. *The price will go down
> once the season gets in full swing. <G> *They had fresh mussels, too. *I
> forget the price, but I sure can't find fresh mussels in Memphis!
>
> Jill- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

What- gas is only 3.15? We're looking at 3.50+....

merryb wrote:
> On Mar 13, 4:25 pm, "jmcquown" > wrote:
>> Goomba38 wrote:
>>> Jill- drive your mom over to the military commissary and see what
>>> they have. Call first to see if they're checking ID's at the door
>>> or just the register. Mine is at the register so anyone can get in.
>>
>> Oh, I can get in, no problem. But I can tell you from experience,
>> they don't have great produce either. LOL And with the price of gas
>> at $3.15/gal. it's really not worth the drive to Parris Island just
>> to look for squash.
>>
>> Jill- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> What- gas is only 3.15? We're looking at 3.50+....
>
I'm not looking a gift horse <snort> in the mouth. It was $3.04 a week
ago...

Jill

jmcquown wrote:
> Serene Sprat wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>> Had to stop by Publix to pick up a couple of items and ran across
>>> asparagus at $1.99/lb. That's the lowest I've seen in quite some
>>> time! And it's not that micro-thin wimpy looking asparagus, either
>>>
>> Oh, for us, it's the thinner, the better. That's the way my mom
>> taught me, so that's what I look for in asparagus.
>>
> You're lucky your mom taught you about fresh asparagus! Mine introduced me
> to odd things such as fresh artichokes at a very young age, but when it came
> to *most* vegetables they were <gak> canned. She bought strictly what was
> available at whatever military commissary was nearby at the time. I don't
> think I ever tasted the real deal until I was about 17. I do prefer it not
> be ultra skinny, though.

I'll take asparagus any way I can get it. I've actually never had it
canned, though, so maybe I am speaking too soon. :-)

(I was lucky growing up. About the only canned vegetable we ate was
corn.)

Serene

On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 18:31:20 -0700, Serene Sprat
> wrote:

>(I was lucky growing up. About the only canned vegetable we ate was
>corn.)


You sure were. I had to eat canned peas. YUCK, yuck, yuck....phooey.

sf
wondering if you're on a diet (where else would "sprat" come from?)

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jmcquown <jmcquown >> wrote:

> Some consolation is the first of the shrimp are coming in. When I was in
> Publix last week they had some freshly caught that day. Granted, it was
> $12.99/lb. for medium (still pretty big) shrimp. The price will go down
> once the season gets in full swing. <G> They had fresh mussels, too. I
> forget the price, but I sure can't find fresh mussels in Memphis!

About the only thing I miss about the Carolinas are the rock shrimp.
I've never seen them for sale in the shell, but I've heard that I
don't want them that way since they're a PITA to shell.

-sw

merryb <merryb >> wrote:

> What- gas is only 3.15? We're looking at 3.50+....

$3.05 here in Austin. I like mine with the $1.62/lb butter.

-sw

<sf> wrote in message ...
> On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 18:31:20 -0700, Serene Sprat
> > wrote:
>
>>(I was lucky growing up. About the only canned vegetable we ate was
>>corn.)
>
>
> You sure were. I had to eat canned peas. YUCK, yuck, yuck....phooey.
>

Canned baby peas are the only ones I like, and they have to be IN something
like soup. The grossest thing in the world: those bright green great big
frozen
peas that POPPED when you bit down on them. Ugh, ugh, ugh!!

On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 00:30:11 -0500, "cybercat" >
wrote:

>
><sf> wrote in message ...
>> On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 18:31:20 -0700, Serene Sprat
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>(I was lucky growing up. About the only canned vegetable we ate was
>>>corn.)
>>
>>
>> You sure were. I had to eat canned peas. YUCK, yuck, yuck....phooey.
>>
>
>Canned baby peas are the only ones I like, and they have to be IN something
>like soup. The grossest thing in the world: those bright green great big
>frozen
>peas that POPPED when you bit down on them. Ugh, ugh, ugh!!
>
OK, gross out time... nothing beats the giant peas that came in a
can.... mushay, mealy and I can't begin to describe the horrible
flavor. Does "over cooked peas" mean anything?

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Sqwertz wrote:
> jmcquown <jmcquown >> wrote:
>
>> Some consolation is the first of the shrimp are coming in. When I
>> was in Publix last week they had some freshly caught that day.
>> Granted, it was $12.99/lb. for medium (still pretty big) shrimp.
>> The price will go down once the season gets in full swing. <G> They
>> had fresh mussels, too. I forget the price, but I sure can't find
>> fresh mussels in Memphis!
>
> About the only thing I miss about the Carolinas are the rock shrimp.
> I've never seen them for sale in the shell, but I've heard that I
> don't want them that way since they're a PITA to shell.
>
> -sw
>
The shrimpers down here are kind enough to split the shells for you. Dad
used to net up some mighty fine big shrimp off the docks on the island
And I remember going crabbing with something as simple as a chicken neckbone
or a piece of salt pork (or even hunks of bread - they're scavengers) on a
string.

Jill

sf wrote:

> >(I was lucky growing up. About the only canned vegetable we ate was
> >corn.)
>
> You sure were. I had to eat canned peas. YUCK, yuck, yuck....phooey.

I confess to liking canned peas.

Dave wrote on Sat, 15 Mar 2008 09:14:48 -0400:

??>>> (I was lucky growing up. About the only canned vegetable
??>>> we ate was corn.)
??>>
??>> You sure were. I had to eat canned peas. YUCK, yuck,
??>> yuck....phooey.

Even while growing up, I was not given many canned vegetables to
eat. We did sometimes have the very strange-tasting canned peas
and I still eat baked beans. In fact, most beans, including
garbanzos, that I use are canned and I do sometimes buy canned
palm hearts for salads.

I've come across something from England called "mushy" in
import stores that I think is peas overcooked until the name is
correct but I've never tried them.

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

E-mail, with obvious alterations:
not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

James Silverton wrote:
> I've come across something from England called "mushy" in
> import stores that I think is peas overcooked until the name is
> correct but I've never tried them.

Yes we can buy them in tins, but we can buy them in 'fish shops', hot and we
sprinkle them with malt vinegar

yummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

They are dried peas rehydrated and cooked until the do indeed become,
mushy)

"Serene Sprat" > ha scritto nel messaggio

> I'll take asparagus any way I can get it. I've actually never had it
> canned, though, so maybe I am speaking too soon. :-)
>
> (I was lucky growing up. About the only canned vegetable we ate was corn.)
>
> Serene

Like peas, canned asparagus has the problem that eaters come to it wanting
fresh. The two items are so different most never get over it, unless they
start with canned and then kazow! find fresh. I have actually met a couple
of people who never did get to like fresh versions of canned things, too.

From my POV, I adore fresh peas and asparagus. I like frozen peas and
asparagus. I like canned, too, but they are so different I must do
completely different things with them versus the other 2.

In article >,
says...
>
>
> "Serene Sprat" > ha scritto nel messaggio
>
> > I'll take asparagus any way I can get it. I've actually never had it
> > canned, though, so maybe I am speaking too soon. :-)
> >
> > (I was lucky growing up. About the only canned vegetable we ate was corn.)
> >
> > Serene
>
> Like peas, canned asparagus has the problem that eaters come to it wanting
> fresh. The two items are so different most never get over it, unless they
> start with canned and then kazow! find fresh. I have actually met a couple
> of people who never did get to like fresh versions of canned things, too.
>
> From my POV, I adore fresh peas and asparagus. I like frozen peas and
> asparagus. I like canned, too, but they are so different I must do
> completely different things with them versus the other 2.
>
>
>

Actually I had some frozen asparagus and it was quite good. Must be the
flash freezing process.

On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 05:25:08 -0500, "kilikini"
> wrote:


Publix grocery store has
>asparagus on sale at $1.95 a pound right now so I'm buying at eating the
>heck out of it. I do this every Spring. LOL. I eat so much asparagus that
>I don't need to eat it until the following Spring.
>
>kili
>

That is part of the concept of eating seasonally. That one waits til
something is in season, and then you eat it a lot during that time.
Then, when the season ends, you wait til the next year to eat that
particular thing. This way, you get the vegetable/fruit/whatever at
it's peak of ripeness..and peak flavor.

I try to live by this myself. Right now, asparagus is really coming
down in price here... The asparagus is starting to come in from the
Sacramento delta and it is just wonderful. I will pig out just like
you are, and then wait til next year. No asparagus in
November/December for me!

Christine

On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 05:20:03 -0700, Christine Dabney
> wrote:

>On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 05:25:08 -0500, "kilikini"
> wrote:
>
>
> Publix grocery store has
>>asparagus on sale at $1.95 a pound right now so I'm buying at eating the
>>heck out of it. I do this every Spring. LOL. I eat so much asparagus that
>>I don't need to eat it until the following Spring.
>>
>>kili
>>
>
>That is part of the concept of eating seasonally. That one waits til
>something is in season, and then you eat it a lot during that time.
>Then, when the season ends, you wait til the next year to eat that
>particular thing. This way, you get the vegetable/fruit/whatever at
>it's peak of ripeness..and peak flavor.
>
>I try to live by this myself. Right now, asparagus is really coming
>down in price here... The asparagus is starting to come in from the
>Sacramento delta and it is just wonderful. I will pig out just like
>you are, and then wait til next year. No asparagus in
>November/December for me!
>
>Christine


You also have to learn the seasons in your area. I have a booklet put
out by the North Carolina Farmers' Market Nutrition Program which
lists the produce that will be available in the different seasons.
Here in NC the seasons can vary as much as 6 weeks from the coast to
the mountains. I was just checking the planting guide which is geared
to the Piedmont (central NC) and the footnotes say to plant 2 -3 weeks
earlier on the coast and 2 -3 week later in the mountains.

If your farmers' markets limit area the sellers come from, you will be
limited to what can be grown in that area at that time. Ours tiny one
is limited to a 3 county area and is sponsored by the county extension
service. It opens in May and runs until October. The first few weeks
are pretty sparse.

I planted pea seeds and set out onion plants on Friday and Saturday. I
have chard, cabbage, broccoli and beets ready to set out in a few
days. It rained yesterday so I may be a while until I can get out
into the garden without sinking up to my ankles.

--
Susan N.

"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974)

In article >, artisan2
@ix.netcom.com says...
> On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 05:25:08 -0500, "kilikini"
> > wrote:
>
>
> Publix grocery store has
> >asparagus on sale at $1.95 a pound right now so I'm buying at eating the
> >heck out of it. I do this every Spring. LOL. I eat so much asparagus that
> >I don't need to eat it until the following Spring.
> >
> >kili
> >
>
> That is part of the concept of eating seasonally. That one waits til
> something is in season, and then you eat it a lot during that time.
> Then, when the season ends, you wait til the next year to eat that
> particular thing. This way, you get the vegetable/fruit/whatever at
> it's peak of ripeness..and peak flavor.

It's also good for canning. This year I'm growing:

Peppers
Tomatoes
Cucumber
Watermelon
A lemon tree. Yes, it's about 4" tall right now.

I'll probably plant some basil and other herbs too. The thing is, I plan
to do container as a I did last year. Got very good yield from that
method. I'm going to use one of those big plastic storage boxes, fill
with a layer of gravel at the bottom and then soil over that.