"Lou Decruss" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:26:44 GMT, "Paul M. Cook" >
> wrote:
>
>>> Thanks for the recipe. I'll probably try it sometime. But that's
>>> nothing like what you'll get at Denny's for $4.99.
>>
>>
>>OK, OK, Lou. We got it. You don't like Denny's.
>
> You haven't got anything. $4.99 for pancakes made with your recipe
> would be ok. But not for pancakes made from a bag mix.


Maybe your prodigious efforts would be better directed at the corporate
officers of Denny's? I mean it's just a crazy idea.

Paul

On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 23:48:26 GMT, "Dave Bugg" >
wrote:

>Lou Decruss wrote:
>> On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 20:11:54 -0700 (PDT), Gregory Morrow
>> > wrote:
>>
>>
>>> The prob with Denny's is that *everything* tastes the same, e.g.
>>> those pancakes taste exactly like the iceberg lettuce salad that
>>> tastes like the strawberry sundae that tastes like the "steak" that
>>> they serve...all processed plastic chemical krap.
>>
>> LOLOL. That's a good way to put it.
>>
>>> And I'm speaking as someone who last ate at a Denny's prolly 20+
>>> years ago. I'm old enough to remember when Denny's was called
>>> "Sambo's"...in college in downstate Illannnoy it was the eatery of
>>> *last* resort after a night of partying. It was a popular place to
>>> practice that old "eat and run" routine, lol...
>>
>> I remember Sambo's, but I didn't know it was Denny's.
>
>Sambo's never became Denny's. It is possible that Denny's purchased
>properties from the defunct Sambo's chain, but Denny's was a whole separate
>outfit.
>
>BTW, the original Sambo's which started the chain is still open and going
>strong.
>http://www.sambosrestaurant.com/indexsam.htm

Thanks for the info and link David. Looks like their pancakes are
$5.99. I still think that's insane. But if people want to pay that
so be it I guess.

Lou

On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:26:44 GMT, "Paul M. Cook" >
wrote:

>> Thanks for the recipe. I'll probably try it sometime. But that's
>> nothing like what you'll get at Denny's for $4.99.
>
>
>OK, OK, Lou. We got it. You don't like Denny's.

You haven't got anything. $4.99 for pancakes made with your recipe
would be ok. But not for pancakes made from a bag mix.

Lou

RegForte wrote:
>
> It sounds like you might have other problems, though.
> My guess is you also overacidified the cheese by culturing
> too long. This results in the "acid cut" effect.
> Have a look here.
>
> <http://www.cheesemaking.com/includes/modules/jWallace/OnLineNews/News_06_08.html>

Yes, that sounds like exactly what I did.
I definitely had the view that more culturing
was better. I didn't realize that could cause
a defect in the cheese.

Mark Thorson wrote:
> RegForte wrote:
>
>>It sounds like you might have other problems, though.
>>My guess is you also overacidified the cheese by culturing
>>too long. This results in the "acid cut" effect.
>>Have a look here.
>>
>><http://www.cheesemaking.com/includes/modules/jWallace/OnLineNews/News_06_08.html>
>
>
> Yes, that sounds like exactly what I did.
> I definitely had the view that more culturing
> was better. I didn't realize that could cause
> a defect in the cheese.

Great, I'm glad that might be of some help.

Hats off for making your own cheese press, BTW.

"Dave Smith" schrieb :
<snip>
> In Denmark and Germany, they typically had a variety of cereals, yoghurt,
> fresh
> fruit, at least a dozen varieties of cheeses and cold cuts, boiled eggs,
> bacon,
> great sausages, pate, an assortment of freshly made rolls and pastries. The
> best
> thing in the Danish buffets was the Vennerbrot <sp?>, the most amazing pastry
> I ever
> had.
>
It's called "Wiener Brot" or "Wiener Bröd"; it's the Danish name for sweet
pastries
which in the USA are called "Danish" ...
(Wien = Vienna).

Cheers,

Michael Kuettner

Lou Decruss wrote:

> You haven't got anything. $4.99 for pancakes made with your recipe
> would be ok. But not for pancakes made from a bag mix.
>

People here have claimed that some mixes, which only need water added,
are as good as pancakes made from scratch. If so, I wish that restaurants
who specialize in pancakes would use the stuff. I have always been
terribly disappointed in pancake house pancakes, My pancakes home made
pancakes are delicious. I broke down last month and had pancakes at a mom
and pop places that billed themselves as specializing in pancakes. I was
not impressed. I at only two of the three pancakes served, and I had a
hard time getting through the second one. I made pancakes at home for
brunch yesterday. I had three and they were so good I had two more. I
still don't understand mixes. Pancakes are so easy to make from scratch.

Michael Kuettner wrote:

>
> >
> It's called "Wiener Brot" or "Wiener Bröd"; it's the Danish name for sweet
> pastries
> which in the USA are called "Danish" ...
> (Wien = Vienna).
>

I apologize for the spelling. It deserves the respect. That stuff is incredible. We
are planning on travelling to Estonia to visit a niece this spring. We are
considering making a connection from Copenhagen, and Wiener Brot may be the
deciding factor :-)

Dave Smith wrote:

> People here have claimed that some mixes, which only need water added,
> are as good as pancakes made from scratch.

A friend from Edmonton (now B.C.) brought a bag of a Canadian mix -- Coyote
Pancake Mix -- which was excellent. I haven't been able to find it stocked
in any American store, though.

http://www.coyotepancakemix.com/
--
Dave
www.davebbq.com

Dave Bugg wrote:

> Dave Smith wrote:
>
> > People here have claimed that some mixes, which only need water added,
> > are as good as pancakes made from scratch.
>
> A friend from Edmonton (now B.C.) brought a bag of a Canadian mix -- Coyote
> Pancake Mix -- which was excellent. I haven't been able to find it stocked
> in any American store, though.
>
> http://www.coyotepancakemix.com/

I checked out the link. You have to have milk and egg, the two most expensive
ingredients in a pancake recipe, though they are optional. That is my pet
peeve about pancake batter. The dry ingredients are flour, a bit of baking
powder, salt and sugar, which are cheap kitchen staples. It is the egg and milk
that cost. Oil is a minor cost.

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
> . I
> still don't understand mixes. Pancakes are so easy to make from scratch.


Same with cakes. Only takes a minute or two more to bake from scratch, but
Duncan Hines is still doing well. I never buy cakes from bake sales because
99% are from a box with icing from a can.

Dave Smith wrote:
> sf wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 16:30:54 -0400, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Do the big box stores rent?
>> Don't be so literal.
>>
>
> :-) I realize that low rent also reflects property values for those who
> buy, but around here, they tend to go for high volume areas. Their
> stores or on major roads near major highways. They are in prime
> commercial locations.
>
> I just wish they would provide maps to help you get through the stores
> without having to walk past all the great deals. I love going to Ikea,
> and I am impressed with their restaurants. They have good food....
> cheap.

I haven't been in an IKEA in several years but IIRC you needed not only
a map but also climbing gear to handle shortcuts to get passed the deals.


--
John Kane, Kingston ON Canada

"Dave Smith" schrieb:
> Michael Kuettner wrote:
>
>>
>> >
>> It's called "Wiener Brot" or "Wiener Bröd"; it's the Danish name for sweet
>> pastries
>> which in the USA are called "Danish" ...
>> (Wien = Vienna).
>>
>
> I apologize for the spelling. It deserves the respect. That stuff is
> incredible. We
> are planning on travelling to Estonia to visit a niece this spring. We are
> considering making a connection from Copenhagen, and Wiener Brot may be the
> deciding factor :-)
>
No need to apologize. I just gave the right name in case you wanted to look
for recipes for them.

Cheers,

Michael Kuettner

On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 22:44:47 -0400, "Edwin Pawlowski" >
wrote:

>
>"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>> . I
>> still don't understand mixes. Pancakes are so easy to make from scratch.
>
>
>Same with cakes. Only takes a minute or two more to bake from scratch, but
>Duncan Hines is still doing well. I never buy cakes from bake sales because
>99% are from a box with icing from a can.

Does anyone other than churches have bake sales anymore? I haven't
seen or heard of one in many years. But I don't go to church. I
remember them as a kid, but I remember the goods always sucked.

Lou

John Kane wrote:

> > I just wish they would provide maps to help you get through the stores
> > without having to walk past all the great deals. I love going to Ikea,
> > and I am impressed with their restaurants. They have good food....
> > cheap.
>
> I haven't been in an IKEA in several years but IIRC you needed not only
> a map but also climbing gear to handle shortcuts to get passed the deals.

It is always an adventure. :-) I enjoy the experience. I used to grab all
sorts of things as I tracked my way through the carefully planned routes
through the store. You have to walk through every department and past every bin
of specials to get from the entrance to the checkout. You wander off that
marked route at your own risk. The last time I was in on, the Queensway store in
Toronto, I took a shortcut and got lost.

There are a number of things that I always grab while I am there. Their candles
are a terrific deal. They are good candles and they are cheap. I picked up a
flexible cutting board last year and was surprised when I got home and opened it
to find that there were two of them in the package. My last furniture purchase
was an office chair for my computer desk. It is much sturdier than anything you
can get in other stores without spending a fortune, and it is guaranteed for 10
years.

Lou Decruss wrote:

> Does anyone other than churches have bake sales anymore? I haven't
> seen or heard of one in many years. But I don't go to church. I
> remember them as a kid, but I remember the goods always sucked.

They have some pretty good stuff at the bake sales at my wife's church. I don't
know if they still have them at the local schools. As I have posted before, I
stopped contributing. I was disappointed to see the tuff I had made being sold
for a fraction of what it had cost me for the ingredients. The school and I
would have both been ahead if I had just given them the money I spent on
ingredients and saved myself a lot of work.

Lou Decruss wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 22:44:47 -0400, "Edwin Pawlowski" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>>> . I
>>> still don't understand mixes. Pancakes are so easy to make from
>>> scratch.
>>
>>
>> Same with cakes. Only takes a minute or two more to bake from
>> scratch, but Duncan Hines is still doing well. I never buy cakes
>> from bake sales because 99% are from a box with icing from a can.
>
> Does anyone other than churches have bake sales anymore? I haven't
> seen or heard of one in many years. But I don't go to church. I
> remember them as a kid, but I remember the goods always sucked.

A lot of PTA fundraisers do. Of course, some schools are banning any
home-baked goodies.

"Lou Decruss" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 22:44:47 -0400, "Edwin Pawlowski" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>>> . I
>>> still don't understand mixes. Pancakes are so easy to make from scratch.
>>
>>
>>Same with cakes. Only takes a minute or two more to bake from scratch,
>>but
>>Duncan Hines is still doing well. I never buy cakes from bake sales
>>because
>>99% are from a box with icing from a can.
>
> Does anyone other than churches have bake sales anymore? I haven't
> seen or heard of one in many years. But I don't go to church. I
> remember them as a kid, but I remember the goods always sucked.

They don't need them anymore. They get about 3 billion a year from the
taxpayers now.

Paul

"Lou Decruss" > wrote in message
>
> Does anyone other than churches have bake sales anymore? I haven't
> seen or heard of one in many years. But I don't go to church. I
> remember them as a kid, but I remember the goods always sucked.
>
> Lou

I*'ve seen a few fund raisers for sports teams and the like. Mostly cookies
from the pre-made tubes and box cake mixes. Our local school does have an
annual event wee they sell some home made cakes that have been decorated and
made from scratch and they are able to get a good buck for them. The rest
are the usual blah stuff.

IHOP often has "all you can eat" pancake specials but I
don't recommend the food. OTOH, the surly waitresses come at no extra
charge!

picmaker


On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 18:03:04 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>
>sf wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 16:30:54 -0400, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >Do the big box stores rent?
>>
>> Don't be so literal.
>>
>
>:-) I realize that low rent also reflects property values for those who
>buy, but around here, they tend to go for high volume areas. Their
>stores or on major roads near major highways. They are in prime
>commercial locations.
>
>I just wish they would provide maps to help you get through the stores
>without having to walk past all the great deals. I love going to Ikea,
>and I am impressed with their restaurants. They have good food....
>cheap.
>
>
>

On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 10:49:53 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>Lou Decruss wrote:
>
>> Does anyone other than churches have bake sales anymore? I haven't
>> seen or heard of one in many years. But I don't go to church. I
>> remember them as a kid, but I remember the goods always sucked.
>
>They have some pretty good stuff at the bake sales at my wife's church. I don't
>know if they still have them at the local schools. As I have posted before, I
>stopped contributing. I was disappointed to see the tuff I had made being sold
>for a fraction of what it had cost me for the ingredients. The school and I
>would have both been ahead if I had just given them the money I spent on
>ingredients and saved myself a lot of work.

Mis-use of my charitable gestures is why I believe charity begins at
home now. Years ago I got involved in sponsoring a single mother and
her kids for Christmas. Turned out the bitch had at least 5 other
organizations doing the same. When we delivered the gifts a few days
before the 25th she took us to a locked bedroom that was packed full
of wrapped gifts. There were more coming other than the ones we were
adding to the piles. She and her kids had more there than most people
see in 25 years. Never again for me unless I know for sure they
really need it.

Lou

On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 15:37:13 GMT, Janet Baraclough
> wrote:

>The message >
>from Lou Decruss > contains these words:
>
>> Does anyone other than churches have bake sales anymore? I haven't
>> seen or heard of one in many years.
>
> We have loads here. It's all lovely homemade stuff; being a small
>rural community home crafts are pretty competitive so the standard of
>baking, jam , etc is high The other thing we have a lot of , is home
>made lunches or teas which are a part of many community events. Last
>weekend was the Spring Flower Show; half the village hall was decked out
>with the flower and bulb exhibits from all over the island (children
>included) and the other half laid out with tables and chairs, and a
>gigantic spread of dozens of different sorts of homemade cakes and
>biscuits.... and tea, coffee and juice etc.
>
> Janet (Scotland)..

Different world I guess. Thanks for the info.

Lou

On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 19:39:46 GMT, "Dave Bugg" >
wrote:

>Lou Decruss wrote:
>> On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 22:44:47 -0400, "Edwin Pawlowski" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>>>> . I
>>>> still don't understand mixes. Pancakes are so easy to make from
>>>> scratch.
>>>
>>>
>>> Same with cakes. Only takes a minute or two more to bake from
>>> scratch, but Duncan Hines is still doing well. I never buy cakes
>>> from bake sales because 99% are from a box with icing from a can.
>>
>> Does anyone other than churches have bake sales anymore? I haven't
>> seen or heard of one in many years. But I don't go to church. I
>> remember them as a kid, but I remember the goods always sucked.
>
>A lot of PTA fundraisers do. Of course, some schools are banning any
>home-baked goodies.

Hummmm.. I want to make peanut butter cookies for one. <eg>

Lou

On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 01:43:17 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" >
wrote:

>
>"Lou Decruss" > wrote in message
>>
>> Does anyone other than churches have bake sales anymore? I haven't
>> seen or heard of one in many years. But I don't go to church. I
>> remember them as a kid, but I remember the goods always sucked.
>>
>> Lou
>
>I*'ve seen a few fund raisers for sports teams and the like. Mostly cookies
>from the pre-made tubes and box cake mixes. Our local school does have an
>annual event wee they sell some home made cakes that have been decorated and
>made from scratch and they are able to get a good buck for them. The rest
>are the usual blah stuff.
>
Thanks. Didn't know they still did them. I'll stay away if I ever
see one.

Lou

Lou Decruss <Lou Decruss >> wrote:

> Hummmm.. I want to make peanut butter cookies for one. <eg>

That reminds me - I still have some PB cookie dough in the fridge...

-sw

Lou Decruss wrote:

>
>
> Mis-use of my charitable gestures is why I believe charity begins at
> home now. Years ago I got involved in sponsoring a single mother and
> her kids for Christmas. Turned out the bitch had at least 5 other
> organizations doing the same. When we delivered the gifts a few days
> before the 25th she took us to a locked bedroom that was packed full
> of wrapped gifts. There were more coming other than the ones we were
> adding to the piles. She and her kids had more there than most people
> see in 25 years. Never again for me unless I know for sure they
> really need it.

A number of years ago my son's girl friend was delivering Christmas food baskets and
presents to the needy. She was turned right off it when she made a delivery to one
house and found a half dozen adults sitting around drinking beer and smoking pot.
Funny how they don't have money for food and presents but they can afford to get
drunk and stoned.

My brother once helped out at a free Christmas dinner for the needy. When he went
outside for a cigarette there was a group of the recipients calling for a taxi to
take them to a bingo hall in a city 20 miles away. He asked them if they were really
going to take a taxi that far to gamble after eating a free dinner. One of them asked
if he was going to give her a hard time about that. He said "Nope, but you won't see
me here next year".