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cybercat wrote:
> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote >> TWoP is televison without pity. It's an Web based forum system and seems >> to be about all things TV. I never heard of it either, I just Googled it. >> > > My God. The only thing more inane than spending a lot of time watching > TV has to be taking the time to discuss it. > > > My my, don't we jump to conclusions? -- Leah: That were a wee bit repulsive. Buffy: Went okay. 'Cept I feel a little wierd about using a crucifix to kill someone. Leah: Yeh dinno much about religion, do yeh? |
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cybercat wrote:
> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message > 3.184... >> On Thu 27 Mar 2008 02:17:14p, James Silverton told us... >> >>> Wayne wrote on Thu, 27 Mar 2008 21:08:40 GMT: >>> >>> ??>> Goomba38 wrote on Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:44:16 -0400: >>> ??>> >>> ??>>>> Well speaking as the [lone?] r.f.c.-er from Africa, >>> ??>>>> homemade curries are a favorite here. I make some sort >>> ??>>>> of curry at least twice a month... I buy plenty of dried >>> ??>>>> ground coriander root - and it does go well with a lot >>> ??>>>> of Thai curries (which we love too). Fresh cilantro >>> ??>>>> leaves make a great 'garnish' for a lot of curries, >>> ??>>>> IMHO. But in flavor I find they're worlds apart from >>> ??>>>> each other (coriander and fresh cilantro leaves). >>> ??>> . >>> ??>> According to Gernot Katzer, and he's right about >>> ??>> everything I have investigated, coriander leaves and >>> ??>> cilantro are the same thing: the leaves of Coriandrum >>> Sativum >>> ??>> L. >>> ??>> >>> ??>> James Silverton >>> ??>> Potomac, Maryland >>> >>> WB> That's true... Coriander leaves and cilantro are the same >>> WB> thing. Often when corinader leaves are referred to, they >>> WB> are in dry form. >>> >>> WB> Coriander seed (from the same plant) is either found whole >>> WB> or ground, and has an altogether different flavor, often >>> WB> used is savory dishes, but especially good in desserts. >>> >>> You've got me thinking about what Cathy said concerning >>> coriander root. *Rooted* cilantro is hard to find but it's used >>> especially in Thai and Vietnamese marinades. >>> >>> James Silverton >>> Potomac, Maryland >> Yes, that's true, and I had forgotten about that. I have seen it at one >> of >> the Asian markets in the area. >> >> -- >> Wayne Boatwright >> ------------------------------------------- >> Thursday, 03(III)/27(XXVII)/08(MMVIII) > > HEY! She asked about CURRRRRRRRRY, oooookay? > > Who do you think you are, talking about CILANTRO when the topic is clearly > CURRRRRRRY?! > > > You know, each response like this really only makes you look childish. Grow up. -- Leah: That were a wee bit repulsive. Buffy: Went okay. 'Cept I feel a little wierd about using a crucifix to kill someone. Leah: Yeh dinno much about religion, do yeh? |
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James Silverton wrote:
> > c> HEY! She asked about CURRRRRRRRRY, oooookay? > > c> Who do you think you are, talking about CILANTRO when the > c> topic is clearly CURRRRRRRY?! > > I hate to say it but there's a lot you could learn about the components > and accompaniments of curry! > > James Silverton > Potomac, Maryland > > E-mail, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not I know this wasn't directed at me, but I'm learning a lot, and am grateful. I've always learned a bunch from them majority of this group, even those with whom I don't get along. -- Leah: That were a wee bit repulsive. Buffy: Went okay. 'Cept I feel a little wierd about using a crucifix to kill someone. Leah: Yeh dinno much about religion, do yeh? |
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Miche wrote:
> In article <4GUGj.4379$N_5.2362@trnddc05>, > "James Silverton" > wrote: > >> "Goomba38" > wrote in message >> . .. >>> Miche wrote: >>>> In article >, >>>> Goomba38 > wrote: >>>>> 'splain curry leaves to me, please? I'm not familiar with >>>>> them? >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curry_Tree >>>> >>> Okie dokie....but is it something used very frequently and >>> does it have a substitute? I can't say that I've ever seen it >>> for sale (and I'm pretty observant of everything in the store >>> even if it isn't something I buy) Can you describe the flavor? >> No substitute that I know of, relatively expensive and a unique >> flavor, IMHO. In my favorite Indian store, it is kept in a >> refrigerator and sold in sealed plastic bags containing 2-3 >> stems. > > I bought mine dried, $NZ4 for 10 grams of curry leaves, which is about 1 > cup. Should last me months, if not years. > > Miche > So I take it that's a good price! I had never heard of these leaves before either, and haven't seen a recipe using them...is it something you use in the sauce, like a bay leaf? -- Leah: That were a wee bit repulsive. Buffy: Went okay. 'Cept I feel a little wierd about using a crucifix to kill someone. Leah: Yeh dinno much about religion, do yeh? |
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ravenlynne > wrote: > Miche wrote: > > In article <4GUGj.4379$N_5.2362@trnddc05>, > > "James Silverton" > wrote: > > > >> "Goomba38" > wrote in message > >> . .. > >>> Miche wrote: > >>>> In article >, > >>>> Goomba38 > wrote: > >>>>> 'splain curry leaves to me, please? I'm not familiar with > >>>>> them? > >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curry_Tree > >>>> > >>> Okie dokie....but is it something used very frequently and > >>> does it have a substitute? I can't say that I've ever seen it > >>> for sale (and I'm pretty observant of everything in the store > >>> even if it isn't something I buy) Can you describe the flavor? > >> No substitute that I know of, relatively expensive and a unique > >> flavor, IMHO. In my favorite Indian store, it is kept in a > >> refrigerator and sold in sealed plastic bags containing 2-3 > >> stems. > > > > I bought mine dried, $NZ4 for 10 grams of curry leaves, which is about 1 > > cup. Should last me months, if not years. > > So I take it that's a good price! It's the only price I've seen. They're hard to find here. > I had never heard of these leaves > before either, and haven't seen a recipe using them...is it something > you use in the sauce, like a bay leaf? With the recipe I posted you fry them with the garlic and some of the spices, then stir them into the dal later. Miche -- Electricians do it in three phases |
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Miche wrote:
> With the recipe I posted you fry them with the garlic and some of the > spices, then stir them into the dal later. > > Miche > Thanks! -- Leah: That were a wee bit repulsive. Buffy: Went okay. 'Cept I feel a little wierd about using a crucifix to kill someone. Leah: Yeh dinno much about religion, do yeh? |
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On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 13:10:33 -0800, Joseph Littleshoes
> wrote: >Curry powder usually available off the shelf may consist of turmeric, >cumin seeds, coriander seeds, mustard seeds, five spice powder >(cardamom, cinnamon, black pepper, bay leaf and cumin), with red chili >powder and salt. This can be safely made at home, with the emphasis on >its chili content being variable. Of course, this would change with the >season, reason, region, occasion, and the veggie or meat to be cooked." Thanks JL. Maybe I should just buy some curry powder and be done with it. -- See return address to reply by email remove the smile first |
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On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 21:46:17 +0000, James Silverton wrote:
> cybercat wrote on Thu, 27 Mar 2008 17:42:26 -0400: > > c> HEY! She asked about CURRRRRRRRRY, oooookay? > > c> Who do you think you are, talking about CILANTRO when the > c> topic is clearly CURRRRRRRY?! > > I hate to say it but there's a lot you could learn about the > components and accompaniments of curry! > > James Silverton I find a lot of people think 'curry powder' is a spice in its own right. It's not. 'Curry powder' is made up of a combination of many ground spices - and the different combinations of spices is what gives you the different types/flavors. Well, that's how my Indian colleagues explained it to me... And yes, ground coriander root does have a different flavor from the leaves, but they both have their place in curry dishes, IMHO. -- Cheers Chatty Cathy Monday is a lousy way to spend one seventh of your life. |
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On Fri 28 Mar 2008 12:24:51a, ChattyCathy told us...
> On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 21:46:17 +0000, James Silverton wrote: > >> cybercat wrote on Thu, 27 Mar 2008 17:42:26 -0400: > > >> >> c> HEY! She asked about CURRRRRRRRRY, oooookay? >> >> c> Who do you think you are, talking about CILANTRO when the >> c> topic is clearly CURRRRRRRY?! >> >> I hate to say it but there's a lot you could learn about the >> components and accompaniments of curry! >> >> James Silverton > > I find a lot of people think 'curry powder' is a spice in its own right. > It's not. 'Curry powder' is made up of a combination of many ground > spices - and the different combinations of spices is what gives you the > different types/flavors. Well, that's how my Indian colleagues explained > it to me... Many people I know think that's true, too. Where curries abound, as in India, there are probably as many variations on the blending of spices as there are households. Once, at a culinary fair I went to, I bought a curry powder selection at an Indian booth that had twenty different bottles that were represented as being typical in various regions. How much truth thre was to that I don't know, but each of them was quite distinctive and very good. They also ranged from quite mild but flavorful to blazing hot. FWIW, I usually make my own combinations these days. > And yes, ground coriander root does have a different flavor from the > leaves, but they both have their place in curry dishes, IMHO. Indeed they do. -- Wayne Boatwright ------------------------------------------- Friday, 03(III)/28(XXVIII)/08(MMVIII) ------------------------------------------- Countdown till Memorial Day 8wks 2dys 19hrs 35mins ------------------------------------------- Cats must eat all random things they find on the floor. ------------------------------------------- |
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In article >, ChattyCathy > wrote:
>On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 09:36:03 -0700, sf wrote: > >> I've gotten the impression that curry is made at home more on your side >> of the world (Europe and Africa) than here in the US. I don't >> personally know anyone who makes curry at home vs. going out to an >> Indian buffet restaurant for an occasional Indian meal. Fenugreek and >> curry leaves certainly are not on my spice shelf. For that matter, >> neither is ground coriander. I use fresh coriander (cilantro) leaves >> quite often, but not dried and ground seeds. > >Well speaking as the [lone?] r.f.c.-er from Africa, homemade curries are a >favorite here. I make some sort of curry at least twice a month... I buy >plenty of dried ground coriander root - and it does go well with a lot of >Thai curries (which we love too). Fresh cilantro leaves make a great >'garnish' for a lot of curries, IMHO. If you like the taste of bugs! ;-) But I have to agree about curries, though mine are *very* basic (and always a little disappointing after three months travelling in the sticks in India 20 something years ago ![]() As to curry leaves, a friend just down the road has a curry tree in her yard, so I don't know that it's really worth growing one too; but I'm still tempted to take up the challenge one day. (Procrastination rules!) Cheers, Phred. -- LID |
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On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:42:42 -0400, Goomba38 wrote:
> sf wrote: >> I don't personally know anyone who makes curry at home vs. >> going out to an Indian buffet restaurant for an occasional Indian >> meal. Fenugreek and curry leaves certainly are not on my spice shelf. >> For that matter, neither is ground coriander. I use fresh coriander >> (cilantro) leaves quite often, but not dried and ground seeds. >> > > I don't keep Feugreek, and actually I just asked ChattyCathy in a recent > post to exaplain what curry leaves are, but I do keep Coriander! I use > it in Mexican dishes and of course various curried type dishes. Sorry, Goomba - I was too busy 'not working' to see your recent post. http://www.foodsubs.com/HerbsIndian.html -- Cheers Chatty Cathy Monday is a lousy way to spend one seventh of your life. |
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sf wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 13:10:33 -0800, Joseph Littleshoes > > wrote: > > > Curry powder usually available off the shelf may consist of > > turmeric, cumin seeds, coriander seeds, mustard seeds, five spice > > powder (cardamom, cinnamon, black pepper, bay leaf and cumin), with > > red chili powder and salt. This can be safely made at home, with > > the emphasis on its chili content being variable. Of course, this > > would change with the season, reason, region, occasion, and the > > veggie or meat to be cooked." > > Thanks JL. Maybe I should just buy some curry powder and be done with > it. That's the way I am. I realize that home-ground and blended curry mixes would be better, but I'm just not going to go through all that for the occasional times I make curry. Brian -- If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who won't shut up. -- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com) |
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On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 22:45:54 +0100, "Michael Kuettner"
> wrote: > >"ravenlynne" schrieb : >> ChattyCathy wrote: >>> On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:08:15 +0100, ravenlynne wrote: >>> >>>> ChattyCathy wrote: >>>>> Ahem, since I did attempt to 'answer your question' earlier in this >>>>> thread, and I didn't see the post(s)from you where you explained what your >>>>> sig means - no offense intended ;-) - would you consider telling me again, >>>>> please? >>>>> >>>> I posted a post on Television without Pity forums stating that I didn't >>>> understand why everyone hated a certain contestant. I was hand slapped for >>>> apparently "posting nastily about other posters". >>> >>> Ahhh. Bit like a Usenet group we all know and love ;-) >> >> Ha! except that I posted WAY more civilly there. I literally wrote "I don't >> get all of the hate for Carly Smithson. " I'd like the mods for that forum to >> spend a day on usenet. >> >One more message like that and we'll have to ban you from this forum. > >Your moderator, > >Michael Kuettner > hey, michael, you better get on the stick. there's all kinds of riff-raff around here lately. your pal, blake |
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On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 12:55:29 -0800, Joseph Littleshoes
> wrote: >Over here in Berkeley theres a store on University >ave. that sells very small cans of Vindaloo, i imagine its as readily >available in the city as here. I've seen Vindaloo, in fact a jar sat on my self for years before it was thrown out. I was thinking of the curries that call for a gazillion powdery things I don't have. -- See return address to reply by email remove the smile first |
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sf wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 13:10:33 -0800, Joseph Littleshoes > > wrote: > > >>Curry powder usually available off the shelf may consist of turmeric, >>cumin seeds, coriander seeds, mustard seeds, five spice powder >>(cardamom, cinnamon, black pepper, bay leaf and cumin), with red chili >>powder and salt. This can be safely made at home, with the emphasis on >>its chili content being variable. Of course, this would change with the >>season, reason, region, occasion, and the veggie or meat to be cooked." > > > Thanks JL. Maybe I should just buy some curry powder and be done with > it. > The one problem with making or even purchasing curry powder is its tendency to lose its kick very quickly, it has a very short shelf life. Which is another reason i like the Japanese Golden Curry, it stays fresh a long time in its hermetically sealed package. But for the Indian curries, if you have a recipe you like just make it in small batches. Over here in Berkeley theres a store on University ave. that sells very small cans of Vindaloo, i imagine its as readily available in the city as here. -- JL |
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ravenlynne wrote:
> ChattyCathy wrote: >> On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:08:15 +0100, ravenlynne wrote: >> >>> ChattyCathy wrote: >>>> Ahem, since I did attempt to 'answer your question' earlier in this >>>> thread, and I didn't see the post(s)from you where you explained >>>> what your sig means - no offense intended ;-) - would you consider >>>> telling me again, please? >>>> >>> I posted a post on Television without Pity forums stating that I >>> didn't understand why everyone hated a certain contestant. I was >>> hand slapped for apparently "posting nastily about other posters". >> >> Ahhh. Bit like a Usenet group we all know and love ;-) > > Ha! except that I posted WAY more civilly there. I literally wrote "I > don't get all of the hate for Carly Smithson. " I'd like the mods for > that forum to spend a day on usenet. > Do I really want to know who is Carly Smithson? Jill |
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Goomba38 > wrote:
> When I came back from my honeymoon my Italian father said I should make > ziti for my new husband...." But not ziti tagliati, I am sure... Victor |
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jmcquown wrote:
> ravenlynne wrote: >> ChattyCathy wrote: >>> On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:08:15 +0100, ravenlynne wrote: >>> >>>> ChattyCathy wrote: >>>>> Ahem, since I did attempt to 'answer your question' earlier in this >>>>> thread, and I didn't see the post(s)from you where you explained >>>>> what your sig means - no offense intended ;-) - would you consider >>>>> telling me again, please? >>>>> >>>> I posted a post on Television without Pity forums stating that I >>>> didn't understand why everyone hated a certain contestant. I was >>>> hand slapped for apparently "posting nastily about other posters". >>> >>> Ahhh. Bit like a Usenet group we all know and love ;-) >> >> Ha! except that I posted WAY more civilly there. I literally wrote "I >> don't get all of the hate for Carly Smithson. " I'd like the mods for >> that forum to spend a day on usenet. >> > Do I really want to know who is Carly Smithson? > > Jill She's a rock singer in the competition...has a tatoo parlor, is from ireland. Actually has talent for a change. -- Leah: That were a wee bit repulsive. Buffy: Went okay. 'Cept I feel a little wierd about using a crucifix to kill someone. Leah: Yeh dinno much about religion, do yeh? |
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ravenlynne wrote:
> jmcquown wrote: >>> >>> Ha! except that I posted WAY more civilly there. I literally wrote >>> "I don't get all of the hate for Carly Smithson. " I'd like the >>> mods for that forum to spend a day on usenet. >>> >> Do I really want to know who is Carly Smithson? >> > > She's a rock singer in the competition...has a tatoo parlor, is from > ireland. Actually has talent for a change. > Competition? Never mind... ![]() |
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"jmcquown" > wrote in message
. .. > ravenlynne wrote: >> jmcquown wrote: >>>> >>>> Ha! except that I posted WAY more civilly there. I literally wrote >>>> "I don't get all of the hate for Carly Smithson. " I'd like the >>>> mods for that forum to spend a day on usenet. >>>> >>> Do I really want to know who is Carly Smithson? >>> >> >> She's a rock singer in the competition...has a tatoo parlor, is from >> ireland. Actually has talent for a change. >> > Competition? Never mind... ![]() American Idol. (Yes, I confess to watching it--one of the few reality shows I watch...) She's one of our favorites, Gina, FWIW. Not crazy about her tattoos, but I can't imagine why lots of people would actually hate her. (OTOH, I could understand people really disliking that nurse Amanda, who was voted off a couple weeks ago...) Ob food: She works at an Irish pub in Sandy Eggo called The Field, which we've dined at a few times. Mary |
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MareCat wrote:
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message > . .. >> ravenlynne wrote: >>> jmcquown wrote: >>>>> Ha! except that I posted WAY more civilly there. I literally wrote >>>>> "I don't get all of the hate for Carly Smithson. " I'd like the >>>>> mods for that forum to spend a day on usenet. >>>>> >>>> Do I really want to know who is Carly Smithson? >>>> >>> She's a rock singer in the competition...has a tatoo parlor, is from >>> ireland. Actually has talent for a change. >>> >> Competition? Never mind... ![]() > > American Idol. (Yes, I confess to watching it--one of the few reality shows > I watch...) > > She's one of our favorites, Gina, FWIW. Her and David Cook are the only ones I like (although the australian rocker guy is tasty.) -- Leah: That were a wee bit repulsive. Buffy: Went okay. 'Cept I feel a little wierd about using a crucifix to kill someone. Leah: Yeh dinno much about religion, do yeh? |
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ravenlynne wrote:
> MareCat wrote: >> "jmcquown" > wrote in message >> . .. >>> ravenlynne wrote: >>>> jmcquown wrote: >>>>>> Ha! except that I posted WAY more civilly there. I literally wrote >>>>>> "I don't get all of the hate for Carly Smithson. " I'd like the >>>>>> mods for that forum to spend a day on usenet. >>>>>> >>>>> Do I really want to know who is Carly Smithson? >>>>> >>>> She's a rock singer in the competition...has a tatoo parlor, is from >>>> ireland. Actually has talent for a change. >>>> >>> Competition? Never mind... ![]() >> >> American Idol. (Yes, I confess to watching it--one of the few reality >> shows I watch...) >> >> She's one of our favorites, Gina, FWIW. > > Her and David Cook are the only ones I like (although the australian > rocker guy is tasty.) My husband rarely watches television, but he enjoys America Idol. David Cook is my favorite, so far. I liked Danny Noriega, who was voted off. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIzglPxJejA Becca |
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"Becca" > wrote in message
... > ravenlynne wrote: >> MareCat wrote: >>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message >>> . .. >>>> ravenlynne wrote: >>>>> jmcquown wrote: >>>>>>> Ha! except that I posted WAY more civilly there. I literally wrote >>>>>>> "I don't get all of the hate for Carly Smithson. " I'd like the >>>>>>> mods for that forum to spend a day on usenet. >>>>>>> >>>>>> Do I really want to know who is Carly Smithson? >>>>>> >>>>> She's a rock singer in the competition...has a tatoo parlor, is from >>>>> ireland. Actually has talent for a change. >>>>> >>>> Competition? Never mind... ![]() >>> >>> American Idol. (Yes, I confess to watching it--one of the few reality >>> shows I watch...) >>> >>> She's one of our favorites, Gina, FWIW. >> >> Her and David Cook are the only ones I like (although the australian >> rocker guy is tasty.) > > My husband rarely watches television, but he enjoys America Idol. David > Cook is my favorite, so far. I liked Danny Noriega, who was voted off. David Cook is our current #1 favorite. LOVE the version of Billy Jean he did last week. Wow! I *hated* Danny--sorry! ![]() Mary |
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MareCat wrote:
> "Becca" > wrote in message > ... >> ravenlynne wrote: >>> MareCat wrote: >>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message >>>> . .. >>>>> ravenlynne wrote: >>>>>> jmcquown wrote: >>>>>>>> Ha! except that I posted WAY more civilly there. I literally wrote >>>>>>>> "I don't get all of the hate for Carly Smithson. " I'd like the >>>>>>>> mods for that forum to spend a day on usenet. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Do I really want to know who is Carly Smithson? >>>>>>> >>>>>> She's a rock singer in the competition...has a tatoo parlor, is from >>>>>> ireland. Actually has talent for a change. >>>>>> >>>>> Competition? Never mind... ![]() >>>> American Idol. (Yes, I confess to watching it--one of the few reality >>>> shows I watch...) >>>> >>>> She's one of our favorites, Gina, FWIW. >>> Her and David Cook are the only ones I like (although the australian >>> rocker guy is tasty.) >> My husband rarely watches television, but he enjoys America Idol. David >> Cook is my favorite, so far. I liked Danny Noriega, who was voted off. > > David Cook is our current #1 favorite. LOVE the version of Billy Jean he did > last week. Wow! Yup! I got chills. I'd buy that track. > > I *hated* Danny--sorry! ![]() He gave me the creeps...lol. I liked Amanda ok, but I think she was cocky and that killed her. -- Leah: That were a wee bit repulsive. Buffy: Went okay. 'Cept I feel a little wierd about using a crucifix to kill someone. Leah: Yeh dinno much about religion, do yeh? |
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MareCat wrote:
> "Becca" > wrote in message > ... >> ravenlynne wrote: >>> MareCat wrote: >>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message >>>> . .. >>>>> ravenlynne wrote: >>>>>> jmcquown wrote: >>>>>>>> Ha! except that I posted WAY more civilly there. I literally wrote >>>>>>>> "I don't get all of the hate for Carly Smithson. " I'd like the >>>>>>>> mods for that forum to spend a day on usenet. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Do I really want to know who is Carly Smithson? >>>>>>> >>>>>> She's a rock singer in the competition...has a tatoo parlor, is from >>>>>> ireland. Actually has talent for a change. >>>>>> >>>>> Competition? Never mind... ![]() >>>> American Idol. (Yes, I confess to watching it--one of the few reality >>>> shows I watch...) >>>> >>>> She's one of our favorites, Gina, FWIW. >>> Her and David Cook are the only ones I like (although the australian >>> rocker guy is tasty.) >> My husband rarely watches television, but he enjoys America Idol. David >> Cook is my favorite, so far. I liked Danny Noriega, who was voted off. > > David Cook is our current #1 favorite. LOVE the version of Billy Jean he did > last week. Wow! > > I *hated* Danny--sorry! ![]() > > Mary You are not alone, my husband can not stand him, either. Danny made some good song choices, in the beginning. That changed once voting began. His poor song choices and his lack of stage presence killed him. That, plus his voice and his irritating personality. lol Becca |
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