sf wrote in :

> On Sun, 6 Apr 2008 21:19:07 +0000 (UTC), enigma
> > wrote:
>>
>>put the Jerusalem artichokes in a container. do not just
>>stick them in the garden or you will regret it for as long
>>as you live there.
>> the previous owner of my house planted them. i've been
>> here 9
>>years & i'm still pulling & digging the damned things
>>out... it's karma. i planted them at the house i moved from
>>
>
> It's because they are tubers. I have the same "problem"
> with calla lilies.

yup. i've also been "blessed" with ditch lilies (common
orange daylily) at this house. the tubers spread like crazy.
any little bit you miss when digging them out regrows into a
monster daylily patch in a year. i don't understand why the
nice daylilies don't spread as aggressively...
friend of mine hired a landscaping firm to design the gardens
around his farm & then asked me to look over the plans. the
obvious stupid bits were the blue spruce planted 3 feet from
the corner of the house & installing huge swathes of ditch
lilies, which they were going to charge big bucks for. i told
him i'd *give* him all the ditchlilies he wants for free!
please! (and not to plant a spruce anywhere near that close to
the house, especially one with a fieldstone foundation).
lee



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On Mon, 7 Apr 2008 13:31:04 +0000 (UTC), enigma >
wrote:

>sf wrote in :
>
>> On Sun, 6 Apr 2008 21:19:07 +0000 (UTC), enigma
>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>put the Jerusalem artichokes in a container. do not just
>>>stick them in the garden or you will regret it for as long
>>>as you live there.
>>> the previous owner of my house planted them. i've been
>>> here 9
>>>years & i'm still pulling & digging the damned things
>>>out... it's karma. i planted them at the house i moved from
>>>
>>
>> It's because they are tubers. I have the same "problem"
>> with calla lilies.
>
> yup. i've also been "blessed" with ditch lilies (common
>orange daylily) at this house. the tubers spread like crazy.
>any little bit you miss when digging them out regrows into a
>monster daylily patch in a year. i don't understand why the
>nice daylilies don't spread as aggressively...
> friend of mine hired a landscaping firm to design the gardens
>around his farm & then asked me to look over the plans. the
>obvious stupid bits were the blue spruce planted 3 feet from
>the corner of the house & installing huge swathes of ditch
>lilies, which they were going to charge big bucks for. i told
>him i'd *give* him all the ditchlilies he wants for free!
>please! (and not to plant a spruce anywhere near that close to
>the house, especially one with a fieldstone foundation).
>lee


Sounds like the same landscaping firm who did this house. It was done
before we moved in. The dogwood no more than 3 feet from the corner
and shrubs that are supposed to make the place look like an English
manor in rural NC were also placed too close to the house. They came
out and I replaced them with Abelia.

--
Susan N.

"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
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On Mon, 07 Apr 2008 10:19:14 +1200, Miche >
wrote:

>In article >,
> (Steve Pope) wrote:
>
>> Miche > wrote:
>>
>> > (Steve Pope) wrote:
>>
>> >> I don't much eat eggs. (Like a half dozen every couple months.)
>>
>> >Ask friends to save their eggshells for you.
>>
>> I don't think my friends eat many eggs either. My peer
>> group is all on Lipitor, I think.
>
>Huh, there you go. I don't think any of my friends are, but then I
>don't know the med status of most of my friends.
>
>Miche

don't people snoop through medicine cabinets in new zealand? how
un-american.

your pal,
blake

Miche > wrote in
:

> I'm going to have a go at growing vegetables. MIL has some raised
> beds that haven't been used in years. In a few weeks she's going to
> hire some help to clear out her gardens, tidy up the yard etc (we'll
> be there too unless she decides to get it done while we're at work),
> then we'll plant veg in one bed, strawberries in another, and
> blueberries in a third.
>
> It's coming up to winter here so I'll be planting peas, beans (good
> for the soil), garlic, Jerusalem artichokes and broccoli.
>
> Then we'll see where to go from there.
>
> We had a vegetable garden when I was a kid, but I've not had one as a
> grown-up. This is gonna be fun!
>
> Miche
>

Going to do the usual variety of peppers, tomatoes, eggplant, and herbs.
We're planting Okra again as that went extremly well last year, and as
an added bonus, really attracted the hummingbirds. I'm also going to
give som red corn a try. All I need to do is keep the deer at bay and
hopefully we'll enjoy some fresh veggies.

"Woolstitcher" > wrote in
:

> This morning my DH informed me that we don't have slugs or
> snails .. but grubs.

Milky Spore. it takes a full year to be noticably effective,
but will continue to eliminate the grubs for 10 or more years.

> Sometimes I wish that we still rented ... so that someone
> else could deal w/ this stuff. lol

except that landlords seldom take care of things like garden
pests. if it's not directly affecting the dwelling (carpenter
ants, termites) they couldn't care less.
lee


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In article >,
blake murphy > wrote:

> On Mon, 07 Apr 2008 10:19:14 +1200, Miche >
> wrote:
>
> >In article >,
> > (Steve Pope) wrote:

> >> I don't think my friends eat many eggs either. My peer
> >> group is all on Lipitor, I think.
> >
> >Huh, there you go. I don't think any of my friends are, but then I
> >don't know the med status of most of my friends.

>
> don't people snoop through medicine cabinets in new zealand?

Some do, but I sure as hell don't. How rude!

> how
> un-american.

Well, duh!

Miche

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In article >,
enigma > wrote:

> (Steve Pope) wrote in
> :
>
> > Janet Bostwick > wrote:
> >
> >>Steve Pope wrote:
> >
> >>> I hope there are no snails in your location. That's what
> >>> really did in my past attempts to grow vegetables in
> >>> California. (That, and my aversion to using poisons.)
> >
> >>sprinkle crushed egg shells around the plants to keep
> >>snails away.
> >
> >
> > I don't much eat eggs. (Like a half dozen every couple
> > months.) And there were literally hundreds of snails
> > approaching the vegetable patch every evening. Wouldn't
> > you need a lot of eggshells to fend them off?
>
> ok, if you don't like egg shells... diatomaceous earth. beer
> traps (the only use for Budweiser). copper tape around raised
> beds. iron phospate (brand name Slug-go). if legal in your
> area, carnivorous snails

We have native carnivorous snails, but they don't live in our area, nor
do they eat other snails (dammit). Some of them are the size of an
adult's palm!

Miche

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Miche > wrote in
:

> We have native carnivorous snails, but they don't live in
> our area, nor do they eat other snails (dammit). Some of
> them are the size of an adult's palm!

aw, too bad! we have these tiny cone spiral snails that kill
other snails. apparently they don't eat slugs though... i may
have to trap a couple slugs & introduce the carnivorous snails
& see. perhaps i just need to increase the population of the
carnivorous snails.
they certainly keep the White's snails in check though.
lee
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In article >,
Miche > wrote:

> We have native carnivorous snails, but they don't live in our area, nor
> do they eat other snails (dammit). Some of them are the size of an
> adult's palm!

Hmmm... carnivorous snails. They may fit in with my plan for world
domination. Thanks, Miche.

leo

Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
>
> In article >,
> Miche > wrote:
>
> > We have native carnivorous snails, but they don't live in our area, nor
> > do they eat other snails (dammit). Some of them are the size of an
> > adult's palm!
>
> Hmmm... carnivorous snails. They may fit in with my plan for world
> domination. Thanks, Miche.

Hah! Your carnivorous snails have nothing on
my swarms of blood-sucking moths!

http://www.the-latest.com/blood-suck...s-on-the-loose

In article
>,
Leonard Blaisdell > wrote:

> In article >,
> Miche > wrote:
>
> > We have native carnivorous snails, but they don't live in our area, nor
> > do they eat other snails (dammit). Some of them are the size of an
> > adult's palm!
>
> Hmmm... carnivorous snails. They may fit in with my plan for world
> domination. Thanks, Miche.

Am I more likely to survive if I run, or hide?



Miche

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Miche wrote:
>
> In article
> >,
> Leonard Blaisdell > wrote:
>
> > Hmmm... carnivorous snails. They may fit in with my plan for world
> > domination. Thanks, Miche.
>
> Am I more likely to survive if I run, or hide?

Drink beer. Beer kills snails.

In article >,
Mark Thorson > wrote:

> Miche wrote:

> > Am I more likely to survive if I run, or hide?
>
> Drink beer. Beer kills snails.

Good advice. I can say with some authority that I have no snails in my
system. Control the snail. It's all coming together now.

leo

On Mon, 07 Apr 2008 18:54:58 +0000, Chile Fiend
> wrote:

>Going to do the usual variety of peppers, tomatoes, eggplant, and herbs.
>We're planting Okra again as that went extremly well last year, and as
>an added bonus, really attracted the hummingbirds. I'm also going to
>give som red corn a try. All I need to do is keep the deer at bay and
>hopefully we'll enjoy some fresh veggies.

Thanks for the hummingbird tip! I'm not a big okra fan, but if it
attracts the hummingbirds I'll grow some anyway.

Lou

Lou Decruss > wrote in
:

> Thanks for the hummingbird tip! I'm not a big okra fan,
> but if it attracts the hummingbirds I'll grow some anyway.

there is a purple okra variety that is very decorative, even
if you don't eat it.
http://tinyurl.com/6krckb

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On 2008-04-12, enigma > wrote:

> there is a purple okra variety that is very decorative, even
> if you don't eat it.

"Hey babe... what's fer dinner?"
"Purple slime."
"Oh, yum..."


nb

notbob wrote:
> On 2008-04-12, enigma > wrote:
>
>> there is a purple okra variety that is very decorative, even
>> if you don't eat it.
>
> "Hey babe... what's fer dinner?"
> "Purple slime."
> "Oh, yum..."
>
>
> nb
Nah, purple okra turns greenish gray when it's cooked. Looks just like
any other slime.

George

On 2008-04-12, George Shirley > wrote:

> Nah, purple okra turns greenish gray when it's cooked. Looks just like
> any other slime.

The same color as your wet blanket, right?

nb

notbob wrote:
> On 2008-04-12, George Shirley > wrote:
>
>> Nah, purple okra turns greenish gray when it's cooked. Looks just like
>> any other slime.
>
> The same color as your wet blanket, right?
>
> nb
Just experience, we've grown purple okra for about fifteen years now.
Makes striking show in the vegetable garden, tastes just like any other
okra, is very productive, and, most importantly, birds don't eat it. <VBG>

George

George Shirley > wrote in
:

> notbob wrote:
>> On 2008-04-12, enigma > wrote:
>>
>>> there is a purple okra variety that is very decorative,
>>> even
>>> if you don't eat it.
>>
>> "Hey babe... what's fer dinner?"
>> "Purple slime."
>> "Oh, yum..."
>>
>>
>> nb
> Nah, purple okra turns greenish gray when it's cooked.
> Looks just like any other slime.

ack! put some lemon juice in the water!
lee
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On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 22:47:47 +0000 (UTC), enigma >
wrote:

>Lou Decruss > wrote in
:
>
>> Thanks for the hummingbird tip! I'm not a big okra fan,
>> but if it attracts the hummingbirds I'll grow some anyway.
>
> there is a purple okra variety that is very decorative, even
>if you don't eat it.
>http://tinyurl.com/6krckb
>
>lee

Thanks Lee. Those look great. I definitely won't eat them.

Lou

Lou Decruss > wrote in
:

> On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 22:47:47 +0000 (UTC), enigma
> > wrote:
>
>>Lou Decruss > wrote in
m:
>>
>>> Thanks for the hummingbird tip! I'm not a big okra fan,
>>> but if it attracts the hummingbirds I'll grow some
>>> anyway.
>>
>> there is a purple okra variety that is very decorative,
>> even
>>if you don't eat it.
>>http://tinyurl.com/6krckb

> Thanks Lee. Those look great. I definitely won't eat
> them.

you don't have to. the hummingbirds will enjoy them & they
look nice. that someone might want to eat them is a bonus, but
not necessary.

lee
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