On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 06:46:45 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>Well, I guess I'm a technophile because I had absolutely no problem
>following anything on Blinky's web site. Of course, I do this at work,
>too, for our network. :-)

I'm, I'm, I'm.... speechless.... you can actually follow that stuff,
yet you sound so - normal. Normal - in a good way, of course.



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On Sat 26 Apr 2008 12:59:42a, sf told us...

> On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 06:46:45 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> > wrote:
>
>>Well, I guess I'm a technophile because I had absolutely no problem
>>following anything on Blinky's web site. Of course, I do this at work,
>>too, for our network. :-)
>
> I'm, I'm, I'm.... speechless.... you can actually follow that stuff,
> yet you sound so - normal. Normal - in a good way, of course.
>
>
>

LOL! See, Barbara, I'm a geek and you didn't know! :-)))

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wrote:

> On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 06:46:45 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> > wrote:
>
>>Well, I guess I'm a technophile because I had absolutely no problem
>>following anything on Blinky's web site. Of course, I do this at work,
>>too, for our network. :-)
>
> I'm, I'm, I'm.... speechless.... you can actually follow that stuff, yet
> you sound so - normal. Normal - in a good way, of course.

The UIP site is for people with a little competence, not just for nerds.
If it was for nerds, I wouldn't take the time to explain everything. I'd
just show code.


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On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 00:59:42 -0700, sf <.> wrote:

>On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 06:46:45 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:
>
>>Well, I guess I'm a technophile because I had absolutely no problem
>>following anything on Blinky's web site. Of course, I do this at work,
>>too, for our network. :-)
>
>I'm, I'm, I'm.... speechless.... you can actually follow that stuff,
>yet you sound so - normal. Normal - in a good way, of course.
>
>

he does it for money. you know what that makes him.

your pal,
blake

On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 08:11:47 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>On Sat 26 Apr 2008 12:59:42a, sf told us...
>
>> On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 06:46:45 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>Well, I guess I'm a technophile because I had absolutely no problem
>>>following anything on Blinky's web site. Of course, I do this at work,
>>>too, for our network. :-)
>>
>> I'm, I'm, I'm.... speechless.... you can actually follow that stuff,
>> yet you sound so - normal. Normal - in a good way, of course.
>>
>>
>>
>
>LOL! See, Barbara, I'm a geek and you didn't know! :-)))

better to be the geek and not the live chicken.

your pal,
blake

On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 12:25:46 -0700, Blinky the Shark
> wrote:

>Default User wrote:
>
>> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>>
>>> Default User wrote:
>>
>>> > Not much. No new filters this week. The minor time spent adjusting the
>>> > rules is so tiny that it's not worth worrying about.
>>>
>>> No adjustment needed here. Ever.
>>
>> Without knowing what your goal is, it's hard to say whether that's good or
>> not. My goal is to not see spam, while not blocking non-spammers. You
>> apparently have a different one. With different goals, then it's not
>> really possible to compare methods.
>>
>> As the original post asked specifically about not seeing spam, I don't
>> exactly know how your instructions for some other purpose are relevant.
>
>By killing the source of a shitload of it.

to be fair, blinky, your site doesn't really talk about passing
through benign gmailers or googlegroupers (and there are fairly many
of them). i think this is what brian is talking about.

your pal,
blake

On Sat 26 Apr 2008 07:38:43a, blake murphy told us...

> On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 08:11:47 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> > wrote:
>
>>On Sat 26 Apr 2008 12:59:42a, sf told us...
>>
>>> On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 06:46:45 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>Well, I guess I'm a technophile because I had absolutely no problem
>>>>following anything on Blinky's web site. Of course, I do this at work,
>>>>too, for our network. :-)
>>>
>>> I'm, I'm, I'm.... speechless.... you can actually follow that stuff,
yet
>>> you sound so - normal. Normal - in a good way, of course.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>LOL! See, Barbara, I'm a geek and you didn't know! :-)))
>
> better to be the geek and not the live chicken.
>
> your pal,
> blake
>

ROTFLMAO!

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On 2008-04-26, blake murphy > wrote:

> to be fair, blinky, your site doesn't really talk about passing
> through benign gmailers or googlegroupers (and there are fairly many
> of them). i think this is what brian is talking about.

Geeks refer to this as "handholding". It's the same with cooking. A recipe
does not include a step-by-step on how to mince an onion or hold a measuring
cup while measuring. Certain skills are assumed. Same with computers. If
Blinky chose to offer this level of instruction, he would. He doesn't. So,
it's the other person's responsibility of obtain the knowledge/skills on his
own. That, or eat at a restaurant/buy a Mac.

nb ...not aimed at you, Blake. I'm just commenting.

On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 14:37:48 GMT, blake murphy >
wrote:

>On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 00:59:42 -0700, sf <.> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 06:46:45 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:
>>
>>>Well, I guess I'm a technophile because I had absolutely no problem
>>>following anything on Blinky's web site. Of course, I do this at work,
>>>too, for our network. :-)
>>
>>I'm, I'm, I'm.... speechless.... you can actually follow that stuff,
>>yet you sound so - normal. Normal - in a good way, of course.
>>
>>
>
>he does it for money. you know what that makes him.
>
Gosh... doing it for money. Well, he *is* cute.

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On Sat 26 Apr 2008 09:20:34a, sf told us...

> On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 14:37:48 GMT, blake murphy >
> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 00:59:42 -0700, sf <.> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 06:46:45 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Well, I guess I'm a technophile because I had absolutely no problem
>>>>following anything on Blinky's web site. Of course, I do this at work,
>>>>too, for our network. :-)
>>>
>>>I'm, I'm, I'm.... speechless.... you can actually follow that stuff, yet
>>>you sound so - normal. Normal - in a good way, of course.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>he does it for money. you know what that makes him.
>>
> Gosh... doing it for money. Well, he *is* cute.
>

Aw, thanks! <blush>

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blake murphy wrote:

> On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 12:25:46 -0700, Blinky the Shark >
> wrote:
>
>>Default User wrote:
>>
>>> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>>>
>>>> Default User wrote:
>>>
>>>> > Not much. No new filters this week. The minor time spent adjusting
>>>> > the rules is so tiny that it's not worth worrying about.
>>>>
>>>> No adjustment needed here. Ever.
>>>
>>> Without knowing what your goal is, it's hard to say whether that's good
>>> or not. My goal is to not see spam, while not blocking non-spammers.
>>> You apparently have a different one. With different goals, then it's
>>> not really possible to compare methods.
>>>
>>> As the original post asked specifically about not seeing spam, I don't
>>> exactly know how your instructions for some other purpose are relevant.
>>
>>By killing the source of a shitload of it.
>
> to be fair, blinky, your site doesn't really talk about passing through
> benign gmailers or googlegroupers (and there are fairly many of them). i
> think this is what brian is talking about.

Of course it doesn't. I don't support whitelisting. Read the second line
of my sig again.

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notbob wrote:

> On 2008-04-26, blake murphy > wrote:
>
>> to be fair, blinky, your site doesn't really talk about passing through
>> benign gmailers or googlegroupers (and there are fairly many of them).
>> i think this is what brian is talking about.
>
> Geeks refer to this as "handholding". It's the same with cooking. A
> recipe does not include a step-by-step on how to mince an onion or hold a
> measuring cup while measuring. Certain skills are assumed. Same with
> computers. If Blinky chose to offer this level of instruction, he would.
> He doesn't. So, it's the other person's responsibility of obtain the
> knowledge/skills on his own. That, or eat at a restaurant/buy a Mac.

Different topic -- he's not talking about the level of my instruction
there (although that has been discussed elsewhere); he's talking about me
not also giving instructions for whitelisting certain Gropers. I don't do
the latter, because it's not something I support and recommend.

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sf wrote:


> His goal is simple: he doesn't want to see spam.

That's not true. He wants to block all Google Groups users, regardless
of whether they are spammers or not. See his messages about not
whitelisting known good GG users.




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On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 15:38:46 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>On 2008-04-26, blake murphy > wrote:
>
>> to be fair, blinky, your site doesn't really talk about passing
>> through benign gmailers or googlegroupers (and there are fairly many
>> of them). i think this is what brian is talking about.
>
>Geeks refer to this as "handholding". It's the same with cooking. A recipe
>does not include a step-by-step on how to mince an onion or hold a measuring
>cup while measuring. Certain skills are assumed. Same with computers. If
>Blinky chose to offer this level of instruction, he would. He doesn't. So,
>it's the other person's responsibility of obtain the knowledge/skills on his
>own. That, or eat at a restaurant/buy a Mac.
>
>nb ...not aimed at you, Blake. I'm just commenting.

understood.

the nfilter f.a.q. page does discuss how to pass some members of a
class and kill the rest.

<http://www.nfilter.org/faq.html>

your pal,
blake

On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 09:20:34 -0700, sf <.> wrote:

>On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 14:37:48 GMT, blake murphy >
>wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 00:59:42 -0700, sf <.> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 06:46:45 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Well, I guess I'm a technophile because I had absolutely no problem
>>>>following anything on Blinky's web site. Of course, I do this at work,
>>>>too, for our network. :-)
>>>
>>>I'm, I'm, I'm.... speechless.... you can actually follow that stuff,
>>>yet you sound so - normal. Normal - in a good way, of course.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>he does it for money. you know what that makes him.
>>
>Gosh... doing it for money. Well, he *is* cute.

actually, in this case it makes him pretty smart.

your pal,
blake

On Sun 27 Apr 2008 07:17:50a, blake murphy told us...

> On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 09:20:34 -0700, sf <.> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 14:37:48 GMT, blake murphy >
wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 00:59:42 -0700, sf <.> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 06:46:45 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Well, I guess I'm a technophile because I had absolutely no problem
>>>>>following anything on Blinky's web site. Of course, I do this at
work,
>>>>>too, for our network. :-)
>>>>
>>>>I'm, I'm, I'm.... speechless.... you can actually follow that stuff,
yet
>>>>you sound so - normal. Normal - in a good way, of course.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>he does it for money. you know what that makes him.
>>>
>>Gosh... doing it for money. Well, he *is* cute.
>
> actually, in this case it makes him pretty smart.
>
> your pal,
> blake
>

When you can work at something you really enjoy and get paid for it, so
much the better.

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Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
> When you can work at something you really enjoy and get paid for it, so
> much the better.
>



When I read that it made me giggle because I started thinking
about the various professions it could apply to....
;-)

gloria p

On Sun 27 Apr 2008 03:33:32p, Gloria P told us...

> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>
>> When you can work at something you really enjoy and get paid for it, so
>> much the better.
>>
>
>
>
> When I read that it made me giggle because I started thinking
> about the various professions it could apply to....
> ;-)
>
> gloria p
>

You have a filthy mind, Gloria! :-))))))))))

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