I posted on this group a week or so ago about buying a crockpot and asking
advice. I decided to go with the kitchenaid one, even though I had read
about the pot cracking. I hoped it wouldn't happen to me. Well, the first
time I am using it, making Damsel's Italian beef, it cracks. I did exactly
everything per instructions. I called customer service and they were very
nice, I'm getting a new one in a week or so. But, save yourself the
aggravation and buy another brand. I wish I had. Off to post a scathing
comment on amazon.

Phyllis Stone wrote:
> I posted on this group a week or so ago about buying a crockpot and
> asking advice. I decided to go with the kitchenaid one, even though I
> had read about the pot cracking. I hoped it wouldn't happen to me.
> Well, the first time I am using it, making Damsel's Italian beef, it
> cracks. I did exactly everything per instructions. I called customer
> service and they were very nice, I'm getting a new one in a week or
> so. But, save yourself the aggravation and buy another brand. I wish
> I had. Off to post a scathing comment on amazon.
>
Thanks for the update. I never was clear on why their customer service
people said yes, the crock could possibly crack. I must have missed that
post (if there was one).

Jill

On Apr 23, 9:48*am, "Phyllis Stone" > wrote:
> I posted on this group a week or so ago about buying a crockpot and asking
> advice. I decided to go with the kitchenaid one, even though I had read
> about the pot cracking. I hoped it wouldn't happen to me. Well, the first
> time I am using it, making Damsel's Italian beef, it cracks. I did exactly
> everything per instructions. I called *customer service and they were very
> nice, I'm getting a new one in a week or so. But, save yourself the
> aggravation and buy another brand. *I wish I had. Off to post a scathing
> comment on amazon.

Wow, what a bummer- double bummer because of what you were cooking-
that's one of my family's favorites! Hope you were able to save it...

"Phyllis Stone" > wrote in message
. ..
>I posted on this group a week or so ago about buying a crockpot and asking
>advice. I decided to go with the kitchenaid one, even though I had read
>about the pot cracking. I hoped it wouldn't happen to me. Well, the first
>time I am using it, making Damsel's Italian beef, it cracks. I did exactly
>everything per instructions. I called customer service and they were very
>nice, I'm getting a new one in a week or so. But, save yourself the
>aggravation and buy another brand. I wish I had. Off to post a scathing
>comment on amazon.
>

So it's a KitchenAid crackpot, eh?

Paul

On Apr 23, 12:48�pm, "Phyllis Stone" > wrote:
> I posted on this group a week or so ago about buying a crockpot and asking
> advice. I decided to go with the kitchenaid one, even though I had read
> about the pot cracking. I hoped it wouldn't happen to me. Well, the first
> time I am using it, making Damsel's Italian beef, it cracks. I did exactly
> everything per instructions. I called �customer service and they were very
> nice, I'm getting a new one in a week or so. But, save yourself the
> aggravation and buy another brand. �I wish I had. Off to post a scathing
> comment on amazon.

And you paid at least double for the Kitchen Aid logo.
I'm pleased with my Rival.

http://tinyurl.com/6b82wl

http://www.amazon.com/Countdown-Smar...UTF8&s=kitchen

"Sheldon" > wrote in message
...
On Apr 23, 12:48?pm, "Phyllis Stone" > wrote:
> I posted on this group a week or so ago about buying a crockpot and asking
> advice. I decided to go with the kitchenaid one, even though I had read
> about the pot cracking. I hoped it wouldn't happen to me. Well, the first
> time I am using it, making Damsel's Italian beef, it cracks. I did exactly
> everything per instructions. I called ?customer service and they were very
> nice, I'm getting a new one in a week or so. But, save yourself the
> aggravation and buy another brand. ?I wish I had. Off to post a scathing
> comment on amazon.

And you paid at least double for the Kitchen Aid logo.
I'm pleased with my Rival.


Sheldon, the rival crackpot.

Paul

On Apr 23, 3:31�pm, "Paul M. Cook" > wrote:
> "Sheldon" > wrote in message
>
> ...
> On Apr 23, 12:48?pm, "Phyllis Stone" > wrote:
>
> > I posted on this group a week or so ago about buying a crockpot and asking
> > advice. I decided to go with the kitchenaid one, even though I had read
> > about the pot cracking. I hoped it wouldn't happen to me. Well, the first
> > time I am using it, making Damsel's Italian beef, it cracks. I did exactly
> > everything per instructions. I called ?customer service and they were very
> > nice, I'm getting a new one in a week or so. But, save yourself the
> > aggravation and buy another brand. ?I wish I had. Off to post a scathing
> > comment on amazon.
>
> And you paid at least double for the Kitchen Aid logo.
> I'm pleased with my Rival.
>
> Sheldon, the rival crackpot.
>
> Paul

How many times are you going to use that stupid line... and you got it
wrong anyway, it's *crackEDpot*, you crackhead. And that's all I'm
gonna say here, before it digresses to Cybercrack... that mint must be
all worn off by now... blech!

"Sheldon" > wrote in message
...
On Apr 23, 3:31?pm, "Paul M. Cook" > wrote:
> "Sheldon" > wrote in message
>
> ...
> On Apr 23, 12:48?pm, "Phyllis Stone" > wrote:
>
> > I posted on this group a week or so ago about buying a crockpot and
> > asking
> > advice. I decided to go with the kitchenaid one, even though I had read
> > about the pot cracking. I hoped it wouldn't happen to me. Well, the
> > first
> > time I am using it, making Damsel's Italian beef, it cracks. I did
> > exactly
> > everything per instructions. I called ?customer service and they were
> > very
> > nice, I'm getting a new one in a week or so. But, save yourself the
> > aggravation and buy another brand. ?I wish I had. Off to post a scathing
> > comment on amazon.
>
> And you paid at least double for the Kitchen Aid logo.
> I'm pleased with my Rival.
>
> Sheldon, the rival crackpot.
>
> Paul

>How many times are you going to use that stupid line... and you got it
wrong anyway, it's *crackEDpot*, you crackhead. And that's all I'm
gonna say here, before it digresses to Cybercrack... that mint must be
all worn off by now... blech!



I looked it up, it's crackpot.

crack·pot
-noun 1.a person who is eccentric, unrealistic, or fanatical.
-adjective 2.eccentric; impractical; fanatical: crackpot ideas.

Paul

jmcquown wrote:
> Thanks for the update. I never was clear on why their customer service
> people said yes, the crock could possibly crack. I must have missed
> that post (if there was one).

If asked, the manufacturer must state that the crock can crack simply
because it can. If someone had carelessly said that it couldn't crack
the manufacturer would have hell to pay.

"merryb" > wrote in message
...
On Apr 23, 9:48 am, "Phyllis Stone" > wrote:
> I posted on this group a week or so ago about buying a crockpot and asking
> advice. I decided to go with the kitchenaid one, even though I had read
> about the pot cracking. I hoped it wouldn't happen to me. Well, the first
> time I am using it, making Damsel's Italian beef, it cracks. I did exactly
> everything per instructions. I called customer service and they were very
> nice, I'm getting a new one in a week or so. But, save yourself the
> aggravation and buy another brand. I wish I had. Off to post a scathing
> comment on amazon.

Wow, what a bummer- double bummer because of what you were cooking-
that's one of my family's favorites! Hope you were able to save it...



Yes, it was saved. I put it in my 30+ year old Hamilton Beach. It has no
bells nor whistles but doesn't die for no reason, like the Rival, or crack
like the fancy kitchenaid. When I mentioned to the kitchenaid customer
service person that I had read reviews of their product cracking, she said
that people never posted about how good a product was, only the bad things.
I told her if they would send me one that didn't crack I would write a great
review. But just between us, don't waste your money.

On Apr 23, 1:08*pm, "Paul M. Cook" > wrote:
> "Sheldon" > wrote in message
>
> ...
> On Apr 23, 3:31?pm, "Paul M. Cook" > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Sheldon" > wrote in message
>
> ...
> > On Apr 23, 12:48?pm, "Phyllis Stone" > wrote:
>
> > > I posted on this group a week or so ago about buying a crockpot and
> > > asking
> > > advice. I decided to go with the kitchenaid one, even though I had read
> > > about the pot cracking. I hoped it wouldn't happen to me. Well, the
> > > first
> > > time I am using it, making Damsel's Italian beef, it cracks. I did
> > > exactly
> > > everything per instructions. I called ?customer service and they were
> > > very
> > > nice, I'm getting a new one in a week or so. But, save yourself the
> > > aggravation and buy another brand. ?I wish I had. Off to post a scathing
> > > comment on amazon.
>
> > And you paid at least double for the Kitchen Aid logo.
> > I'm pleased with my Rival.
>
> > Sheldon, the rival crackpot.
>
> > Paul
> >How many times are you going to use that stupid line... and you got it
>
> wrong anyway, it's *crackEDpot*, you crackhead. *And that's all I'm
> gonna say here, before it digresses to Cybercrack... that mint must be
> all worn off by now... blech!
>
> I looked it up, it's crackpot.
>
> crack·pot
> -noun 1.a person who is eccentric, unrealistic, or fanatical.
> -adjective 2.eccentric; impractical; fanatical: crackpot ideas.
>
> Paul- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

How about a crappot?

On Apr 23, 2:47*pm, "Phyllis Stone" > wrote:
> "merryb" > wrote in message
>
> ...
> On Apr 23, 9:48 am, "Phyllis Stone" > wrote:
>
> > I posted on this group a week or so ago about buying a crockpot and asking
> > advice. I decided to go with the kitchenaid one, even though I had read
> > about the pot cracking. I hoped it wouldn't happen to me. Well, the first
> > time I am using it, making Damsel's Italian beef, it cracks. I did exactly
> > everything per instructions. I called customer service and they were very
> > nice, I'm getting a new one in a week or so. But, save yourself the
> > aggravation and buy another brand. I wish I had. Off to post a scathing
> > comment on amazon.
>
> Wow, what a bummer- double bummer because of what you were cooking-
> that's one of my family's favorites! Hope you were able to save it...
>
> Yes, it was saved. I put it in my 30+ year old Hamilton Beach. It has no
> bells nor whistles but doesn't die for no reason, like the Rival, or crack
> like the fancy kitchenaid. *When I mentioned to the kitchenaid *customer
> service person that I had read reviews of their product cracking, she said
> that people never posted about how good a product was, only the bad things..
> I told her if they would send me one that didn't crack I would write a great
> review. But just between us, don't waste your money.

A lot of the newer ones are too hot- even set on low, so I would hold
onto your old one for back up!

Phyllis Stone wrote:

> I posted on this group a week or so ago about buying a crockpot and asking
> advice. I decided to go with the kitchenaid one, even though I had read
> about the pot cracking. I hoped it wouldn't happen to me. Well, the first
> time I am using it, making Damsel's Italian beef, it cracks. I did exactly
> everything per instructions. I called customer service and they were very
> nice, I'm getting a new one in a week or so. But, save yourself the
> aggravation and buy another brand. I wish I had. Off to post a scathing
> comment on amazon.

Made in China, right?

Cuthbert Thistlethwaite > wrote:

> Made in China, right?

Made in China - to manufacturer specifications.

It's not usually the fact that it's made in China that something is
defective. It's the cheap-assed manufacturers who spec'd the design
and materuals that are to blame.

-sw

> > Made in China, right?

> Made in China - to manufacturer specifications.

> It's not usually the fact that it's made in China that something is
> defective. It's the cheap-assed manufacturers who spec'd the design
> and materuals that are to blame.

I'm mad at all of them, the Chinese, the cheap-assed mfrs, the
politicians, everyone, for their schemes and scams resulting in tons of
crap coming in here.

Interestingly, it seems that the best way to buy many kinds of things is
to seek out working antiques. I haven't been looking for crock pots,
but recently scored a really nice, Oster Blender -- heavy motor,
chrome-plated steel bee-hive shaped base which rings when you ding it
with your fingernail, very thick glass mixing pitcher on top, etc. The
real deal, for a lousy $75. I am very pleased with it, and expect it
will last me the rest of my life.

Made in Milwaukee, a long time ago.

Thanks.

Sqwertz wrote:
> Cuthbert Thistlethwaite > wrote:
>
>> Made in China, right?
>
> Made in China - to manufacturer specifications.
>
> It's not usually the fact that it's made in China that something is
> defective. It's the cheap-assed manufacturers who spec'd the design
> and materuals that are to blame.
>
> -sw


In our company's experience unless you have your own QC person onsite
100% of the time, you never know what you will get from Chinese
factories, regardless of the specs.

gloria p

Gloria P > wrote:

> Sqwertz wrote:
>
>> It's not usually the fact that it's made in China that something is
>> defective. It's the cheap-assed manufacturers who spec'd the design
>> and materuals that are to blame.
>
> In our company's experience unless you have your own QC person onsite
> 100% of the time, you never know what you will get from Chinese
> factories, regardless of the specs.

Most big manufacturers do have a QC team on site. Many of Asian
outfits are just subsidiaries of the parent company, or at least
have very strict contracts.

And it cases where they are truly outsourced, then if you don't have
a QC person/people on site, you should be QC'ing every
shipment/batch that comes in.

-sw

On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:08:21 GMT, "Paul M. Cook" >
wrote:

>
>"Sheldon" > wrote in message
...
>On Apr 23, 3:31?pm, "Paul M. Cook" > wrote:
>> "Sheldon" > wrote in message
>>
>> ...
>> On Apr 23, 12:48?pm, "Phyllis Stone" > wrote:
>>
>> > I posted on this group a week or so ago about buying a crockpot and
>> > asking
>> > advice. I decided to go with the kitchenaid one, even though I had read
>> > about the pot cracking. I hoped it wouldn't happen to me. Well, the
>> > first
>> > time I am using it, making Damsel's Italian beef, it cracks. I did
>> > exactly
>> > everything per instructions. I called ?customer service and they were
>> > very
>> > nice, I'm getting a new one in a week or so. But, save yourself the
>> > aggravation and buy another brand. ?I wish I had. Off to post a scathing
>> > comment on amazon.
>>
>> And you paid at least double for the Kitchen Aid logo.
>> I'm pleased with my Rival.
>>
>> Sheldon, the rival crackpot.
>>
>> Paul
>
>>How many times are you going to use that stupid line... and you got it
>wrong anyway, it's *crackEDpot*, you crackhead. And that's all I'm
>gonna say here, before it digresses to Cybercrack... that mint must be
>all worn off by now... blech!
>
>
>
>I looked it up, it's crackpot.
>
>crack·pot
>-noun 1.a person who is eccentric, unrealistic, or fanatical.
>-adjective 2.eccentric; impractical; fanatical: crackpot ideas.
>
>Paul
>

let's not split hairs. just call him a shithead.

your pal,
blake

"blake murphy" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:08:21 GMT, "Paul M. Cook" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Sheldon" > wrote in message
...
>>On Apr 23, 3:31?pm, "Paul M. Cook" > wrote:
>>> "Sheldon" > wrote in message
>>>
>>> ...
>>> On Apr 23, 12:48?pm, "Phyllis Stone" > wrote:
>>>
>>> > I posted on this group a week or so ago about buying a crockpot and
>>> > asking
>>> > advice. I decided to go with the kitchenaid one, even though I had
>>> > read
>>> > about the pot cracking. I hoped it wouldn't happen to me. Well, the
>>> > first
>>> > time I am using it, making Damsel's Italian beef, it cracks. I did
>>> > exactly
>>> > everything per instructions. I called ?customer service and they were
>>> > very
>>> > nice, I'm getting a new one in a week or so. But, save yourself the
>>> > aggravation and buy another brand. ?I wish I had. Off to post a
>>> > scathing
>>> > comment on amazon.
>>>
>>> And you paid at least double for the Kitchen Aid logo.
>>> I'm pleased with my Rival.
>>>
>>> Sheldon, the rival crackpot.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>
>>>How many times are you going to use that stupid line... and you got it
>>wrong anyway, it's *crackEDpot*, you crackhead. And that's all I'm
>>gonna say here, before it digresses to Cybercrack... that mint must be
>>all worn off by now... blech!
>>
>>
>>
>>I looked it up, it's crackpot.
>>
>>crack·pot
>>-noun 1.a person who is eccentric, unrealistic, or fanatical.
>>-adjective 2.eccentric; impractical; fanatical: crackpot ideas.
>>
>>Paul
>>
>
> let's not split hairs. just call him a shithead.
>
>

I'm okay with that. Hey, Blake, I wonder how the term "shithead" came about?

merryb wrote:
> On Apr 23, 2:47 pm, "Phyllis Stone" > wrote:
>> "merryb" > wrote in message
>>
>> ...
>> On Apr 23, 9:48 am, "Phyllis Stone" > wrote:
>>
>>> I posted on this group a week or so ago about buying a crockpot and asking
>>> advice. I decided to go with the kitchenaid one, even though I had read
>>> about the pot cracking. I hoped it wouldn't happen to me. Well, the first
>>> time I am using it, making Damsel's Italian beef, it cracks. I did exactly
>>> everything per instructions. I called customer service and they were very
>>> nice, I'm getting a new one in a week or so. But, save yourself the
>>> aggravation and buy another brand. I wish I had. Off to post a scathing
>>> comment on amazon.
>> Wow, what a bummer- double bummer because of what you were cooking-
>> that's one of my family's favorites! Hope you were able to save it...
>>
>> Yes, it was saved. I put it in my 30+ year old Hamilton Beach. It has no
>> bells nor whistles but doesn't die for no reason, like the Rival, or crack
>> like the fancy kitchenaid. When I mentioned to the kitchenaid customer
>> service person that I had read reviews of their product cracking, she said
>> that people never posted about how good a product was, only the bad things.
>> I told her if they would send me one that didn't crack I would write a great
>> review. But just between us, don't waste your money.
>
> A lot of the newer ones are too hot- even set on low, so I would hold
> onto your old one for back up!

I threw a fancy "programmable" Rival Crock pot in the trash along with
the baked beans it cremated. Went out and got myself a Hamilton Beach 5
quart "Stay or Go" and that little darling is just wonderful.

Right now it has tonight's supper cooking in it.

--
Janet Wilder
Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
Good Friends. Good Life

On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:12:04 -0400, "cybercat" >
wrote:

>
>"blake murphy" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:08:21 GMT, "Paul M. Cook" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>>How many times are you going to use that stupid line... and you got it
>>>wrong anyway, it's *crackEDpot*, you crackhead. And that's all I'm
>>>gonna say here, before it digresses to Cybercrack... that mint must be
>>>all worn off by now... blech!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I looked it up, it's crackpot.
>>>
>>>crack·pot
>>>-noun 1.a person who is eccentric, unrealistic, or fanatical.
>>>-adjective 2.eccentric; impractical; fanatical: crackpot ideas.
>>>
>>>Paul
>>>
>>
>> let's not split hairs. just call him a shithead.
>>
>>
>
>I'm okay with that. Hey, Blake, I wonder how the term "shithead" came about?
>

from the too-rapid removal of said head from the ass?

your pal,
blake

"cybercat" wrote:
>
> I wonder how the term "shithead" came about.

You heard the term brown nose... shithead is simply bringing you and
O'Failure to a more um, mutually profound level.