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I just finished talking about sweet potato pie in the parsnips thread.
It got me thinking about desserts with a vegetable base. Add to this list, please: Carrot cake Pumpkin muffins Pumpkin pie Sweet potato pie Zucchini bread. There's an Indian carrot pudding with cardamom and a name I can't remember that goes on the list too. I'm thinking of desserts where there's a significant amount of vegetable, not something sneaked in where it doesn't have flavor. --Lia |
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Julia Altshuler said...
> I just finished talking about sweet potato pie in the parsnips thread. > It got me thinking about desserts with a vegetable base. Add to this > list, please: > > > Carrot cake > Pumpkin muffins > Pumpkin pie > Sweet potato pie > Zucchini bread. > > > There's an Indian carrot pudding with cardamom and a name I can't > remember that goes on the list too. > > > I'm thinking of desserts where there's a significant amount of > vegetable, not something sneaked in where it doesn't have flavor. > > > --Lia Julia, I await the New Jersey "Fresh" tomato harvest. Sweet! Eat 'em like apples. Carrot cake as you mentioned is first rate! Best, Andy |
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chefhelen said...
> Rhubarb pie > > helen helen, Rhubarb pie? I've never tried it. ![]() Andy Sure I'm missing out! |
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![]() "Andy" <q> wrote in message ... > Julia Altshuler said... > >> I just finished talking about sweet potato pie in the parsnips thread. >> It got me thinking about desserts with a vegetable base. Add to this >> list, please: >> >> >> Carrot cake >> Pumpkin muffins >> Pumpkin pie >> Sweet potato pie >> Zucchini bread. >> >> >> There's an Indian carrot pudding with cardamom and a name I can't >> remember that goes on the list too. >> >> >> I'm thinking of desserts where there's a significant amount of >> vegetable, not something sneaked in where it doesn't have flavor. >> >> >> --Lia > > > Julia, > > I await the New Jersey "Fresh" tomato harvest. Sweet! Eat 'em like apples. > > Carrot cake as you mentioned is first rate! > > Best, > > Andy Rhubarb pie helen |
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chefhelen wrote on Sun, 27 Apr 2008 08:14:53 -0500:
c> "Andy" <q> wrote in message ... ??>> Julia Altshuler said... ??>> ??>>> I just finished talking about sweet potato pie in the ??>>> parsnips thread. It got me thinking about desserts with a ??>>> vegetable base. Add to this list, please: ??>>> ??>>> Carrot cake ??>>> Pumpkin muffins ??>>> Pumpkin pie ??>>> Sweet potato pie ??>>> Zucchini bread. ??>>> ??>>> There's an Indian carrot pudding with cardamom and a name ??>>> I can't remember that goes on the list too. ??>>> ??>>> I'm thinking of desserts where there's a significant ??>>> amount of vegetable, not something sneaked in where it ??>>> doesn't have flavor. ??>>> ??>>> --Lia ??>> ??>> Julia, ??>> ??>> I await the New Jersey "Fresh" tomato harvest. Sweet! Eat ??>> 'em like apples. ??>> ??>> Carrot cake as you mentioned is first rate! ??>> ??>> Best, ??>> ??>> Andy c> Rhubarb pie Rhubarb pie is very good but rhubarb is one of those confusing vegetables that most think of as fruit. Going the other way, lots of people like rice pudding and there are cakes made using ground rice flour. Another problem is the fruit, the tomato, that is usually treated as a vegetable. A concoction that I liked as a child was tomatoes with *sugar* and the sweetish British cousin of mayonnaise, salad cream.. I remember the taste as being reminiscent of strawberries! After having lunch at a Japanese restaurant yesterday, it occurred to me that tempura sweet potatoes (that I like a lot!) or even squash are quite sweet and would make good desserts. James Silverton Potomac, Maryland E-mail, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not |
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![]() "Julia Altshuler" > wrote in message . .. >I just finished talking about sweet potato pie in the parsnips thread. It >got me thinking about desserts with a vegetable base. Add to this list, >please: > > > Carrot cake > Pumpkin muffins > Pumpkin pie > Sweet potato pie > Zucchini bread. > > > There's an Indian carrot pudding with cardamom and a name I can't remember > that goes on the list too. > > > I'm thinking of desserts where there's a significant amount of vegetable, > not something sneaked in where it doesn't have flavor. Does the chocolate cake made with sauerkraut count? TammyM |
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TammyM wrote:
> > Does the chocolate cake made with sauerkraut count? It should, depending on how much sauerkraut is used. Actually, that's a good one. I was thinking that cabbage could never be used in dessert, but chocolate cake is the perfect exception. Is that called German chocolate cake? This list now looks like this: Carrot cake Pumpkin muffins Pumpkin pie Rhubarb pie Sauerkraut chocolate cake Sweet potato pie Zucchini bread --Lia |
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![]() Isn't the gist of Jerry Seinfeld's wife's book to get kids to eat veggies? I think she hid carrots or spinach in brownies. Libby |
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![]() Hey, I just thought of something else. Peanuts are technically legumes, so they would qualify......also, tomatoes are technically a fruit. Libby |
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Julia Altshuler wrote:
> I just finished talking about sweet potato pie in the parsnips thread. > It got me thinking about desserts with a vegetable base. Add to this > list, please: > > > Carrot cake > Pumpkin muffins > Pumpkin pie Pumpkin is a fruit. > Sweet potato pie > Zucchini bread. So is zucchini. Rhubarb pie Gingerbread Tapioca pudding Serene |
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![]() "Julia Altshuler" > wrote in message . .. > TammyM wrote: >> Does the chocolate cake made with sauerkraut count? > > > It should, depending on how much sauerkraut is used. Actually, that's a > good one. I was thinking that cabbage could never be used in dessert, but > chocolate cake is the perfect exception. Is that called German chocolate > cake? > > > This list now looks like this: > > Carrot cake > Pumpkin muffins > Pumpkin pie > Rhubarb pie > Sauerkraut chocolate cake > Sweet potato pie > Zucchini bread Well it only uses 2/3 cup. The same book in which I have this recipe also contains one for zucchini chocolate cake using TWO cups of grted zucchs, and also (dare I say it?) a RED BEET chocolate cake which uses 1.5 cups of pureed beets. I hope for those of you who are beet averse that you are not reading this post over brekkie.... TammyM |
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TammyM > wrote:
: "Julia Altshuler" > wrote in message :> This list now looks like this: :> :> Carrot cake :> Pumpkin muffins :> Pumpkin pie :> Rhubarb pie :> Sauerkraut chocolate cake :> Sweet potato pie :> Zucchini bread The Chinese make buns filled with sweet bean paste. There are many sweets based on taro Sweetened cornbreads make my dessert list: they're much too sweet to use as bread. Any pumpkin based dessert has a winter-squash analog. --thelma : TammyM |
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On Apr 27, 11:22*am, Thelma Roslyn Lubkin >
wrote: > : "Julia Altshuler" > wrote in message > :> This list now looks like this: > :> > :> Carrot cake > :> Pumpkin muffins > :> Pumpkin pie > :> Rhubarb pie > :> Sauerkraut chocolate cake > :> Sweet potato pie > :> Zucchini bread ====================================== Carrot cookies That Indian carrot dessert my favorite restaurant always has on their lunch buffet Mashed potato candy (from the depression, I think - don't ask!) Potato Chip Cookies Squash pie/pudding Indian Pudding (that steamed New England stuff with cornmeal & molasses) Lynn in Fargo |
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Julia Altshuler wrote:
> I just finished talking about sweet potato pie in the parsnips thread. > It got me thinking about desserts with a vegetable base. Add to this > list, please: > > > Carrot cake > Pumpkin muffins > Pumpkin pie > Sweet potato pie > Zucchini bread. > > > There's an Indian carrot pudding with cardamom and a name I can't > remember that goes on the list too. > > > I'm thinking of desserts where there's a significant amount of > vegetable, not something sneaked in where it doesn't have flavor. My late MIL used to make green tomato mincemeat pie and my mom made pie with Blue Hubbard squash, very similar to puimpkin but slightly different flavor. |
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In article >,
Julia Altshuler > wrote: > I just finished talking about sweet potato pie in the parsnips thread. > It got me thinking about desserts with a vegetable base. Add to this > list, please: > > > Carrot cake > Pumpkin muffins > Pumpkin pie > Sweet potato pie > Zucchini bread. > > > There's an Indian carrot pudding with cardamom and a name I can't > remember that goes on the list too. > > > I'm thinking of desserts where there's a significant amount of > vegetable, not something sneaked in where it doesn't have flavor. Parsnip pie. Similar principle to sweet potato or pumpkin pie. Miche -- Electricians do it in three phases |
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Julia Altshuler > writes:
> I just finished talking about sweet potato pie in the parsnips > thread. It got me thinking about desserts with a vegetable base. Add > to this list, please: I'm a big fan of sweetcorn ice cream. -Nat |
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Serene > wrote:
[snip] > Pumpkin is a fruit. [snip] > So is zucchini. One... okay, maybe two... questions: Is a fruit of a vegetable a fruit or a vegetable? Both? ;-P Victor |
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Victor Sack wrote:
> Serene > wrote: > > [snip] >> Pumpkin is a fruit. > [snip] >> So is zucchini. > > One... okay, maybe two... questions: > > Is a fruit of a vegetable a fruit or a vegetable? Both? ;-P The fruit and the vegetable(s) are different parts of the plant. Some plants have edible fruit and vegetable parts -- for instance, the flower of a zucchini (courgette) is edible, and it's a vegetable. The fruit is the long green thing most people think of when they think of eating the plant. Serene |
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Fred/Libby Barclay wrote:
> Isn't the gist of Jerry Seinfeld's wife's book to get kids to eat > veggies? > > I think she hid carrots or spinach in brownies. Those are examples that I was trying to avoid. I know that if you take a strong flavor like chocolate or pure sugar you can hide a small amount of another flavor in it. But I wasn't thinking of that. If you left the spinach out of the brownies, you'd still have brownies. I want desserts where the vegetable is the main event, the way you can't make carrot cake without carrots or the way you can't make sweet potato pie without sweet potatoes. I like the tomato or sweet corn ice cream idea. I suppose Chinese sweet bean paste qualifies, so peanut butter and chocolate combinations would have to qualify too (but it still feels like cheating). Beets are so sweet that there should be a dessert associated with them, but there isn't a classic. Same with parsnips. You can make a pie with them, but I haven't tried it, and it doesn't seem like it would taste good. These ideas are all good. I wonder why some, like carrot cake, have caught on while others haven't. --Lia |
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On Apr 27, 10:01*am, "James Silverton" >
wrote: > After having lunch at a Japanese restaurant yesterday, it > occurred to me that tempura sweet potatoes (that I like a lot!) > or even squash are quite sweet and would make good desserts. When I get bento, there's almost always a small piece of whatchacallit; the sweet omelet that is sometimes found on top of a ball of sushi rice. Tamago? Anyway, I usually eat it last and think of it as dessert. Cindy Hamilton |
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bean pie
mock apple pie made with zucchini Tara |
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On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:09:38 -0400, Tara >
wrote: >bean pie and bean topped shaved ice Tara |
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Tara wrote on Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:09:38 -0400:
T> bean pie T> mock apple pie made with zucchini Are apples so expensive that you want to replace them with squash? James Silverton Potomac, Maryland E-mail, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not |
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On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 20:24:05 GMT, "James Silverton"
> wrote: > Tara wrote on Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:09:38 -0400: > T> mock apple pie made with zucchini > >Are apples so expensive that you want to replace them with >squash? I've never made or tasted zucchini pie, but if I had a glut of zucchini and I wanted to make something new, I'd give it a try. I believe most zucchini dessert/ bread/ muffin recipes are inspired by the desire to use up some zucchini. I have seen recipes for sweet zucchini preserves. Tara |
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Serene > wrote:
> Victor Sack wrote: > > > > One... okay, maybe two... questions: > > > > Is a fruit of a vegetable a fruit or a vegetable? Both? ;-P > > The fruit and the vegetable(s) are different parts of the plant. > Some plants have edible fruit and vegetable parts -- for instance, > the flower of a zucchini (courgette) is edible, and it's a > vegetable. The fruit is the long green thing most people think of > when they think of eating the plant. I would phrase it differently. A plant raised for food is a vegetable and every vegetable consists of roots, stems, stalks, branches, leaves, flowers and fruit. So, paraphrasing Jeffrey Steingarten, asking whether, say, a tomato is a fruit or a vegetable is akin to asking whether that large gray wrinkled tube over there is a trunk or an elephant. Victor |
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![]() Julia Altshuler wrote: > > I just finished talking about sweet potato pie in the parsnips thread. > It got me thinking about desserts with a vegetable base. Add to this > list, please: > > Carrot cake > Pumpkin muffins > Pumpkin pie > Sweet potato pie > Zucchini bread. > > There's an Indian carrot pudding with cardamom and a name I can't > remember that goes on the list too. Carrot kheer or gajjar kheer. > > I'm thinking of desserts where there's a significant amount of > vegetable, not something sneaked in where it doesn't have flavor. > > --Lia Bean pie Courgette/zucchini brownies Rhubarb bread Puddings made with sweet potatoes or purple yams (ubu) Various squashes simmered in coconut milk Carrot jam There is a recipe somewhere for pie made from avocados. |
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Arri London wrote:
> > There is a recipe somewhere for pie made from avocados. This one is intriguing. I imagine it could be related to shoo-fly or buttermilk pie, very creamy and with that slight avocado flavor. A quick google yields this: http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/Avocado-Pie/Detail.aspx http://whatscookingamerica.net/Fruit/AvocadoPie.htm http://www.cdkitchen.com/recipes/rec...Pie62862.shtml --Lia |
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>Arri London wrote:
>> >> There is a recipe somewhere for pie made from avocados. I have seen recipes for avocado ice cream. Supposed to be good. Christine |
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Christine Dabney wrote:
>> Arri London wrote: >>> There is a recipe somewhere for pie made from avocados. > > I have seen recipes for avocado ice cream. Supposed to be good. A couple of our local Vietnamese places offer avocado milkshakes. They're *delicious*. Serene |
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On Mon 28 Apr 2008 05:29:51p, Serene told us...
> Christine Dabney wrote: >>> Arri London wrote: >>>> There is a recipe somewhere for pie made from avocados. >> >> I have seen recipes for avocado ice cream. Supposed to be good. > > A couple of our local Vietnamese places offer avocado milkshakes. > They're *delicious*. > > Serene > I occasionally make avocado ice cream at home and put pistachios in it. -- Wayne Boatwright ------------------------------------------- Monday, 04(IV)/28(XXVIII)/08(MMVIII) ------------------------------------------- Countdown till Memorial Day 3wks 6dys 6hrs 20mins ------------------------------------------- I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones. (Albert Einst |
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Serene wrote:
> Christine Dabney wrote: >>> Arri London wrote: >>>> There is a recipe somewhere for pie made from avocados. >> >> I have seen recipes for avocado ice cream. Supposed to be good. > > A couple of our local Vietnamese places offer avocado milkshakes. > They're *delicious*. > > Serene One of my coworkers was from India. She sprinkled sugar on her avocados. I never tried it. Becca |
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Lia wrote:
> There's an Indian carrot pudding with cardamom and a name I can't remember > that goes on the list too. That would be halva. From Wikipedia: "Halva may also be made from a variety of other ingredients, including sunflower seeds, various nuts, beans, lentils, and vegetables-such as carrots, pumpkins, yams, and squashes." Bob |
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James wrote:
> After having lunch at a Japanese restaurant yesterday, it occurred to me > that tempura sweet potatoes (that I like a lot!) or even squash are quite > sweet and would make good desserts. Sweet potatoes (especially purple yam) *are* eaten as desserts in Asia. I'm guessing you could substitute sweet potatoes for the pumpkin in this recipe and it would turn out fine: http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/reci..._12908,00.html Bob |
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Lia wrote:
>> There is a recipe somewhere for pie made from avocados. > > This one is intriguing. I imagine it could be related to shoo-fly or > buttermilk pie, very creamy and with that slight avocado flavor. > > A quick google yields this: > > http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/Avocado-Pie/Detail.aspx > http://whatscookingamerica.net/Fruit/AvocadoPie.htm > http://www.cdkitchen.com/recipes/rec...Pie62862.shtml ....and a memory of Alton Brown's outlandish avocado dessert treatments yields this: http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/reci..._12908,00.html http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/reci..._32238,00.html Bob |
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sweet potato pie is still a much desired dessert in the south.
"Bob Terwilliger" > wrote in message ... > James wrote: > >> After having lunch at a Japanese restaurant yesterday, it occurred to me >> that tempura sweet potatoes (that I like a lot!) or even squash are quite >> sweet and would make good desserts. > > Sweet potatoes (especially purple yam) *are* eaten as desserts in Asia. > I'm > guessing you could substitute sweet potatoes for the pumpkin in this > recipe > and it would turn out fine: > > http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/reci..._12908,00.html > > Bob |
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