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Saw "Dirty Jobs" on the Discovery Channel, where Mike was out to sea on a cod
fishing boat. They were in "the factory" below deck preparing the cod for
packaging and they had bins for scraps, bins for the filets and bins for cod
stomachs that are exported to Japan.

Their long stomachs have to be squeezed of their contents by hand. Mike said
what have you found inside and the fisherman assisting said they eat
anything... coke cans. Mike is squeezing out stomachs and onto the table
another whole cod is squeezed out! I found that half disturbing (eating their
own) and half "I'm OK with that" (cod IS good fish).

Came as a surprise to me, anyway!

I'll have to rethink cod. I'm on the fence after watching the episode. Are
other fish that opportunistic?

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> I'll have to rethink cod. I'm on the fence after watching the
> episode. Are other fish that opportunistic?
>
> Andy
>

Don't you remember 'Jaws'? Mmm, shark steaks (Sorry Blinky!) But yeah,
they eat anything. Cod is wonderful fish.

I try not to think to hard about what my food eats. It's better that way.

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On 2008-04-29, Andy <q> wrote:

> other fish that opportunistic?


Easier to list the one's that are not. Most fish eat their own.

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Andy wrote:

> Saw "Dirty Jobs" on the Discovery Channel, where Mike was out to sea on a cod
> fishing boat. They were in "the factory" below deck preparing the cod for
> packaging and they had bins for scraps, bins for the filets and bins for cod
> stomachs that are exported to Japan.
>
> Their long stomachs have to be squeezed of their contents by hand. Mike said
> what have you found inside and the fisherman assisting said they eat
> anything... coke cans. Mike is squeezing out stomachs and onto the table
> another whole cod is squeezed out! I found that half disturbing (eating their
> own) and half "I'm OK with that" (cod IS good fish).
>
> Came as a surprise to me, anyway!
>
> I'll have to rethink cod. I'm on the fence after watching the episode. Are
> other fish that opportunistic?


If you can handle the idea that cod flesh has to be carefully checked for worms
their diet shouldn't be much of a concern.


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On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 13:04:46 -0500, jmcquown wrote:

>> I'll have to rethink cod. I'm on the fence after watching the
>> episode. Are other fish that opportunistic?
>>
>> Andy
>>

> Don't you remember 'Jaws'? Mmm, shark steaks (Sorry Blinky!) But yeah,
> they eat anything. Cod is wonderful fish.
>
> I try not to think to hard about what my food eats.


Or how often it took a bath...

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jmcquown said...

> I try not to think to hard about what my food eats. It's better that way.
>
> Jill



Jill,

Good advice! I will try that. Gimme a couple days!?

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On Apr 29, 10:47*am, Andy <q> wrote:
> [snip]
> (cod IS good fish).
> [snip]
> I'll have to rethink cod. I'm on the fence after watching the episode.


Think about salt cod. It's as far removed from the live critter's
actions as you can get. Here's a link to a recipe for Bacalao--salt
cod pureed with mashed potatoes. I'm not sure about using the food
processor, but otherwise the recipe has all the right ingredients to
be particularly delicious. The page also has a biography of a woman
who made it to the top chef job, for those wanting inspiration after
reading about the male advantages in the field. -aem
http://www.supermarketguru.com/page.cfm/20955
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Andy wrote:
> jmcquown said...
>
>> I try not to think to hard about what my food eats. It's better
>> that way.
>>
>> Jill

>
>
> Jill,
>
> Good advice! I will try that. Gimme a couple days!?
>
> Andy


Hey, email me, wouldja? I've got a photo of that car my bum cousin sold.
You'd love this car!

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jmcquown said...

> Andy wrote:
>> jmcquown said...
>>
>>> I try not to think to hard about what my food eats. It's better
>>> that way.
>>>
>>> Jill

>>
>>
>> Jill,
>>
>> Good advice! I will try that. Gimme a couple days!?
>>
>> Andy

>
> Hey, email me, wouldja? I've got a photo of that car my bum cousin sold.
> You'd love this car!
>
> Jill



Jill,

You wanna make a grown man cry, again?

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aem said...

> On Apr 29, 10:47*am, Andy <q> wrote:
>> [snip]
>> (cod IS good fish).
>> [snip]
>> I'll have to rethink cod. I'm on the fence after watching the episode.

>
> Think about salt cod. It's as far removed from the live critter's
> actions as you can get.



Aem,

I remember the salt cod sitting in open-air baskets at the fish markets in
San Diego.

Haven't shopped it in Philly.

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On Apr 29, 1:13*pm, Dave Smith > wrote:
> Andy wrote:
> > Saw "Dirty Jobs" on the Discovery Channel, where Mike was out to sea on a cod
> > fishing boat. They were in "the factory" below deck preparing the cod for
> > packaging and they had bins for scraps, bins for the filets and bins for cod
> > stomachs that are exported to Japan.

>
> > Their long stomachs have to be squeezed of their contents by hand. Mike said
> > what have you found inside and the fisherman assisting said they eat
> > anything... coke cans. Mike is squeezing out stomachs and onto the table
> > another whole cod is squeezed out! I found that half disturbing (eating their
> > own) and half "I'm OK with that" (cod IS good fish).

>
> > Came as a surprise to me, anyway!

>
> > I'll have to rethink cod. I'm on the fence after watching the episode. Are
> > other fish that opportunistic?

>
> If you can handle the idea that cod flesh *has to be carefully checked for worms
> their diet shouldn't be much of a concern.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


I regularly buy large cod filets at the supermarket, and have never
found any worms. They might be there, but I haven't found any....

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"Andy" <q> wrote in message ...
> Saw "Dirty Jobs" on the Discovery Channel, where Mike was out to sea on a
> cod
> fishing boat. They were in "the factory" below deck preparing the cod for
> packaging and they had bins for scraps, bins for the filets and bins for
> cod
> stomachs that are exported to Japan.
>
> Their long stomachs have to be squeezed of their contents by hand. Mike
> said
> what have you found inside and the fisherman assisting said they eat
> anything... coke cans. Mike is squeezing out stomachs and onto the table
> another whole cod is squeezed out! I found that half disturbing (eating
> their
> own) and half "I'm OK with that" (cod IS good fish).
>
> Came as a surprise to me, anyway!
>
> I'll have to rethink cod. I'm on the fence after watching the episode. Are
> other fish that opportunistic?


Most fish - love to eat other fish. Besides, it's all they got.


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"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
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> Andy wrote:
>
>> Saw "Dirty Jobs" on the Discovery Channel, where Mike was out to sea on a
>> cod
>> fishing boat. They were in "the factory" below deck preparing the cod for
>> packaging and they had bins for scraps, bins for the filets and bins for
>> cod
>> stomachs that are exported to Japan.
>>
>> Their long stomachs have to be squeezed of their contents by hand. Mike
>> said
>> what have you found inside and the fisherman assisting said they eat
>> anything... coke cans. Mike is squeezing out stomachs and onto the table
>> another whole cod is squeezed out! I found that half disturbing (eating
>> their
>> own) and half "I'm OK with that" (cod IS good fish).
>>
>> Came as a surprise to me, anyway!
>>
>> I'll have to rethink cod. I'm on the fence after watching the episode.
>> Are
>> other fish that opportunistic?

>
> If you can handle the idea that cod flesh has to be carefully checked for
> worms
> their diet shouldn't be much of a concern.


Not only cod. Flounder, Grouper, Sea Trout to name a couple. And some of
those parasites are - uuuuuuugly.


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>> I'll have to rethink cod. I'm on the fence after watching the
>> episode. Are other fish that opportunistic?
>>
>> Andy
>>

>Don't you remember 'Jaws'? Mmm, shark steaks (Sorry Blinky!) But yeah,
>they eat anything. Cod is wonderful fish.
>
>I try not to think to hard about what my food eats. It's better that way.
>
>Jill
>

Yeah, that's why I don't like catfish.

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On Apr 29, 7:52 pm, "weedhopper" > wrote:
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> ...
>
>
>
> > Andy wrote:

>
> >> Saw "Dirty Jobs" on the Discovery Channel, where Mike was out to sea on a
> >> cod
> >> fishing boat. They were in "the factory" below deck preparing the cod for
> >> packaging and they had bins for scraps, bins for the filets and bins for
> >> cod
> >> stomachs that are exported to Japan.

>
> >> Their long stomachs have to be squeezed of their contents by hand. Mike
> >> said
> >> what have you found inside and the fisherman assisting said they eat
> >> anything... coke cans. Mike is squeezing out stomachs and onto the table
> >> another whole cod is squeezed out! I found that half disturbing (eating
> >> their
> >> own) and half "I'm OK with that" (cod IS good fish).

>
> >> Came as a surprise to me, anyway!

>
> >> I'll have to rethink cod. I'm on the fence after watching the episode.
> >> Are
> >> other fish that opportunistic?

>
> > If you can handle the idea that cod flesh has to be carefully checked for
> > worms
> > their diet shouldn't be much of a concern.

>
> Not only cod. Flounder, Grouper, Sea Trout to name a couple. And some of
> those parasites are - uuuuuuugly.


We were digging clams one time in RI, and I found a clam worm. You
want to talk ugly? This thing made ugly look good!

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> I'll have to rethink cod. I'm on the fence after watching the episode. Are
> other fish that opportunistic?


I've had tropical fish for a long time. They are classified into
carnivore, omnivore and vegetarian. Still, if another fish can fit into
their mouth, it's food. I currently have some guppies. They give birth
to live babies, which come out folded in half. Within about a second,
they are swimming. If they don't immediately find a hiding place, mom
eats them.

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> We were digging clams one time in RI, and I found a clam worm. You
> want to talk ugly? This thing made ugly look good!



Are those the reddish ones with legs like millipedes?
We used to call those sandworms in Massachusetts and they
make great bait for fishing, but yah, they are ugly.

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> Saw "Dirty Jobs" on the Discovery Channel, where Mike was out to sea on a
> cod
> fishing boat. They were in "the factory" below deck preparing the cod for
> packaging and they had bins for scraps, bins for the filets and bins for
> cod
> stomachs that are exported to Japan.
>
> Their long stomachs have to be squeezed of their contents by hand. Mike
> said
> what have you found inside and the fisherman assisting said they eat
> anything... coke cans. Mike is squeezing out stomachs and onto the table
> another whole cod is squeezed out! I found that half disturbing (eating
> their
> own) and half "I'm OK with that" (cod IS good fish).
>
> Came as a surprise to me, anyway!
>
> I'll have to rethink cod. I'm on the fence after watching the episode. Are
> other fish that opportunistic?
>


Most all fish are cannibalistic to one degree or outright. Crabs, squid and
lobsters routinely eat their own, so that includes the crustaceans, too.
Squid are some of the nastiest critters in the ocean and will hunt and
consume their own. Sharks come to mind as one fish that is an exception to
the rule. Very rare they will attack one of their own.

Life in the sea is no paradise.

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>> I'll have to rethink cod. I'm on the fence after watching the episode.
>> Are other fish that opportunistic?
>>
>> Andy
>>

> Don't you remember 'Jaws'? Mmm, shark steaks (Sorry Blinky!)


Hey!


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> "Andy" <q> wrote in message ...
>> Saw "Dirty Jobs" on the Discovery Channel, where Mike was out to sea on
>> a cod
>> fishing boat. They were in "the factory" below deck preparing the cod
>> for packaging and they had bins for scraps, bins for the filets and bins
>> for cod
>> stomachs that are exported to Japan.
>>
>> Their long stomachs have to be squeezed of their contents by hand. Mike
>> said
>> what have you found inside and the fisherman assisting said they eat
>> anything... coke cans. Mike is squeezing out stomachs and onto the table
>> another whole cod is squeezed out! I found that half disturbing (eating
>> their
>> own) and half "I'm OK with that" (cod IS good fish).
>>
>> Came as a surprise to me, anyway!
>>
>> I'll have to rethink cod. I'm on the fence after watching the episode.
>> Are other fish that opportunistic?

>
> Most fish - love to eat other fish. Besides, it's all they got.


So very true. We'd love a nice venison steak now and then, but the
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On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 22:16:13 -0700, Blinky the Shark
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>Paul M. Cook wrote:
>
>> Very rare they will attack one of their own.

>
>That's just of the ways we're classy.


OMG.... you're on a roll tonight, I'm practically splitting a gut
laughing!


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>weedhopper wrote:
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>> Most fish - love to eat other fish. Besides, it's all they got.

>
>So very true. We'd love a nice venison steak now and then, but the
>logistics are just too prohibitive.


<snork> LOL

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> Most fish - love to eat other fish. Besides, it's all they got.



http://tinyurl.com/4sn86b

A handdrawn fractal of fish? M. C.. Escher...

http://tinyurl.com/4sn86b

I WAS looking for that classic image of the big fish eating smaller fish
eating smaller fish, etc., but couldn't find it.

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On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 01:56:42 -0500, Andy <q> wrote:

>weedhopper said...
>
>> Most fish - love to eat other fish. Besides, it's all they got.

>
>
>http://tinyurl.com/4sn86b
>
>A handdrawn fractal of fish? M. C.. Escher...
>
>http://tinyurl.com/4sn86b
>
>I WAS looking for that classic image of the big fish eating smaller fish
>eating smaller fish, etc., but couldn't find it.
>

I know exactly which one you mean. I wonder why it's not easy, easy,
easy to find.... maybe it's copyrighted. Who knows?

http://www.fotosearch.com/IMZ226/csh0188/

http://www.santaclaracountylib.org/t.../fish_food.jpg



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On Apr 29, 11:30�pm, "Paul M. Cook" > wrote:
> "Andy" <q> wrote in ...
> > Saw "Dirty Jobs" on the Discovery Channel, where Mike was out to sea on a
> > cod
> > fishing boat. They were in "the factory" below deck preparing the cod for
> > packaging and they had bins for scraps, bins for the filets and bins for
> > cod
> > stomachs that are exported to Japan.

>
> > Their long stomachs have to be squeezed of their contents by hand. Mike
> > said
> > what have you found inside and the fisherman assisting said they eat
> > anything... coke cans. Mike is squeezing out stomachs and onto the table
> > another whole cod is squeezed out! I found that half disturbing (eating
> > their
> > own) and half "I'm OK with that" (cod IS good fish).

>
> > Came as a surprise to me, anyway!

>
> > I'll have to rethink cod. I'm on the fence after watching the episode. Are
> > other fish that opportunistic?

>
> Most all fish are cannibalistic to one degree or outright. �Crabs, squid and
> lobsters routinely eat their own, so that includes the crustaceans, too.


Lobster and crab are the ocean's garbage collectors, they consume sea
carrion, they are not preditors.


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> On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 01:56:42 -0500, Andy <q> wrote:
>
>>weedhopper said...
>>
>>> Most fish - love to eat other fish. Besides, it's all they got.

>>
>>
>>http://tinyurl.com/4sn86b
>>
>>A handdrawn fractal of fish? M. C.. Escher...
>>
>>http://tinyurl.com/4sn86b
>>
>>I WAS looking for that classic image of the big fish eating smaller fish
>>eating smaller fish, etc., but couldn't find it.
>>

> I know exactly which one you mean. I wonder why it's not easy, easy,
> easy to find.... maybe it's copyrighted. Who knows?
>
> http://www.fotosearch.com/IMZ226/csh0188/
>
> http://www.santaclaracountylib.org/t.../fish_food.jpg



sf,

So I'm not alone?!? I figure I didn't know how to word the search! ((

Lord knows I tried!

Best,

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On Apr 29, 2:27*pm, Nancy2 > wrote:
> On Apr 29, 1:13*pm, Dave Smith > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Andy wrote:
> > > Saw "Dirty Jobs" on the Discovery Channel, where Mike was out to sea on a cod
> > > fishing boat. They were in "the factory" below deck preparing the cod for
> > > packaging and they had bins for scraps, bins for the filets and bins for cod
> > > stomachs that are exported to Japan.

>
> > > Their long stomachs have to be squeezed of their contents by hand. Mike said
> > > what have you found inside and the fisherman assisting said they eat
> > > anything... coke cans. Mike is squeezing out stomachs and onto the table
> > > another whole cod is squeezed out! I found that half disturbing (eating their
> > > own) and half "I'm OK with that" (cod IS good fish).

>
> > > Came as a surprise to me, anyway!

>
> > > I'll have to rethink cod. I'm on the fence after watching the episode. Are
> > > other fish that opportunistic?

>
> > If you can handle the idea that cod flesh *has to be carefully checked for worms
> > their diet shouldn't be much of a concern.- Hide quoted text -

>
> > - Show quoted text -

>
> I regularly buy large cod filets at the supermarket, and have never
> found any worms. *They might be there, but I haven't found any....
>
> N.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


I've found them twice- one time, the fish had been frozen and the
worms were just fine- ugh!
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Janet Baraclough said...

> The message
> >
> from Sheldon > contains these words:
>
>> On Apr 29, 11:30�pm, "Paul M. Cook" > wrote:

>
>> > Most all fish are cannibalistic to one degree or outright. �Crabs,
>> > squid and
>> > lobsters routinely eat their own, so that includes the crustaceans,

too.
>
>> Lobster and crab are the ocean's garbage collectors, they consume sea
>> carrion, they are not preditors.

>
> Lobsters definitely are; they eat their own young, and adults fight
> to the death ( winner eats loser).
>
> Janet



Janet,

I had an albino catfish in the 10-gallon aquarium and all he did was eat
the algae off the walls and ground gravel in the tank.

My favorite, maybe, 'cept the neon tetras! OR the angel fish. Or the micro-
whales!

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Janet wrote on Wed, 30 Apr 2008 22:57:41 +0100:

??>> I had an albino catfish in the 10-gallon aquarium and all
??>> he did was eat the algae off the walls and ground gravel
??>> in the tank.

??>> My favorite, maybe, 'cept the neon tetras! OR the angel
??>> fish. Or the micro- whales!

JB> Micro-whales???

JB> When I was a child, our neighbour had an entire room just
JB> for tropical fish in tanks lining the walls. I spent many
JB> happy hours in there (or with their owl, or their 17 dogs).
JB> My favourites were the neon tetras but I've never got round
JB> to keeping them.

I guess his house was built well! I had an aquaintance who had a
similar hobby, including free-standing tanks in the middle of
the room, and I tried to stay out of the upstairs room once I
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> The message >
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>
>
>> I had an albino catfish in the 10-gallon aquarium and all he did was
>> eat the algae off the walls and ground gravel in the tank.

>
>> My favorite, maybe, 'cept the neon tetras! OR the angel fish. Or the
>> micro- whales!

>
> Micro-whales???
>
> When I was a child, our neighbour had an entire room just for tropical
> fish in tanks lining the walls. I spent many happy hours in there (or
> with their owl, or their 17 dogs). My favourites were the neon tetras
> but I've never got round to keeping them.
>
> Janet.



Janet,

I tossed in micro-whales just to arouse attention. There's no such whale,
except newborns. I'm a whale god and never knew it until 1983, walking
along the beach without a soul in sight on Kaanapali Beach on Maui, I was
walking the shoreline and just matter-of-factly turned to look across the
channel to the island of Lanai and at the same time a humpback whale, not
100 feet offshore casually breached right in front of me! I looked around
for witnesses but nobody was in sight. A hole in one without a witnsss
event.

I bought a gold whale fluke in downtown Lahaina that is still around my
neck to this day. I'd be devastated if I lost it.

Maui no ke oi! (Maui is the best!)

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On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 10:02:28 -0500, Andy <q> wrote:

>sf said...
>
>> On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 01:56:42 -0500, Andy <q> wrote:
>>
>>>weedhopper said...
>>>
>>>> Most fish - love to eat other fish. Besides, it's all they got.
>>>
>>>
>>>http://tinyurl.com/4sn86b
>>>
>>>A handdrawn fractal of fish? M. C.. Escher...
>>>
>>>http://tinyurl.com/4sn86b
>>>
>>>I WAS looking for that classic image of the big fish eating smaller fish
>>>eating smaller fish, etc., but couldn't find it.
>>>

>> I know exactly which one you mean. I wonder why it's not easy, easy,
>> easy to find.... maybe it's copyrighted. Who knows?
>>
>> http://www.fotosearch.com/IMZ226/csh0188/
>>
>> http://www.santaclaracountylib.org/t.../fish_food.jpg

>
>
>sf,
>
>So I'm not alone?!? I figure I didn't know how to word the search! ((
>
>Lord knows I tried!
>

Nope... big fish eating little fish only got me the one I posted,
which isn't the one I was thinking about.


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On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 15:31:47 -0500, Andy <q> wrote:

>Janet Baraclough said...
>
>> The message
>> >
>> from Sheldon > contains these words:
>>
>>> On Apr 29, 11:30�pm, "Paul M. Cook" > wrote:

>>
>>> > Most all fish are cannibalistic to one degree or outright. �Crabs,
>>> > squid and
>>> > lobsters routinely eat their own, so that includes the crustaceans,

>too.
>>
>>> Lobster and crab are the ocean's garbage collectors, they consume sea
>>> carrion, they are not preditors.

>>
>> Lobsters definitely are; they eat their own young, and adults fight
>> to the death ( winner eats loser).
>>
>> Janet

>
>
>Janet,
>
>I had an albino catfish in the 10-gallon aquarium and all he did was eat
>the algae off the walls and ground gravel in the tank.
>
>My favorite, maybe, 'cept the neon tetras! OR the angel fish. Or the micro-
>whales!
>

micro whale? Here's a problem for me. I have enough light to grow
algae, but it's not good enough to keep my plants alive. sigh

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Janet Baraclough said...

> The message >
> from Andy <q> contains these words:
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>> Janet Baraclough said...

>
>
>> > Micro-whales???

>
>
>> I tossed in micro-whales just to arouse attention. There's no such

whale,
>> except newborns. I'm a whale god and never knew it until 1983, walking
>> along the beach without a soul in sight on Kaanapali Beach on Maui, I

was
>> walking the shoreline and just matter-of-factly turned to look across

the
>> channel to the island of Lanai and at the same time a humpback whale,

not
>> 100 feet offshore casually breached right in front of me! I looked

around
>> for witnesses but nobody was in sight. A hole in one without a witnsss
>> event.

>
> Lucky you.
>
> . We have 3 sorts of whales here (killer, minke, and something I've
> forgotten ) but after 5 years watching out I've yet to see one of them!
> Our kitchen is 3-sides glass and looks out over the bay, I have a whale
> watch sign hanging in the window and binoculars always on the sill. Our
> predecessors saw them from here; one of my friends followed a minke for
> half an hour which blowing just 30 yards from our bit of shore last
> year.
>
> I live in hope.
>
> Janet (Scotland)



Janet,

You're OVERDUE to spot a whale!!! I'm hoping for you! (rubbed my whale
fluke charm "Show up for Janet! Show up for Janet!")

Best,

Andy
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