On my way home from the supermarket I saw a BP (Nicollet & ~126th in
Burnsville - between the Pkwy and 13) with gas at 3.529. I didn't read
the fine print, but I assumed that was for regular; I stopped at the
Holiday near me and filled up for $3.379 minus 11 cents/gallon with my
Cub discount slips.

Oh, the counter guy at the station had just returned from chasing a
drive-off -- he got his license number. More and more of those
happening.
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/amytaylor
4/23/2008 The rains fall on the just and the unjust alike; sometimes
our umbrellas are not wide enough to keep us dry.

"Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message
...
> On my way home from the supermarket I saw a BP (Nicollet & ~126th in
> Burnsville - between the Pkwy and 13) with gas at 3.529. I didn't read
> the fine print, but I assumed that was for regular; I stopped at the
> Holiday near me and filled up for $3.379 minus 11 cents/gallon with my
> Cub discount slips.
>

Premium gas here topped $4 this week. Regular was 3.879 when hubby came home
from work yesterday. I cringe at the thought of having to drive any
distance. We are working to cut back on gas usage and any travel.

No wonder there is "recession" on the horizon, no one can afford extra
spending when gas is costing half a paycheck.

Cindi

> Oh, the counter guy at the station had just returned from chasing a
> drive-off -- he got his license number. More and more of those
> happening.
> --
> -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
> http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/amytaylor
> 4/23/2008 The rains fall on the just and the unjust alike; sometimes
> our umbrellas are not wide enough to keep us dry.

On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 15:59:19 -0500, Melba's Jammin'
> wrote:

>On my way home from the supermarket I saw a BP (Nicollet & ~126th in
>Burnsville - between the Pkwy and 13) with gas at 3.529.

A DEAL! Just got back from Tampa/St. Pete.....3.579.....and why do
we still price gas with a point five seven nine?

What is more absurd is to see someone at the pump putting in 3 dollars
and then run into the counter and buy a bottle of water that is
running in excess of 9.99 per gallon....now that's dumb.

Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> On my way home from the supermarket I saw a BP (Nicollet & ~126th in
> Burnsville - between the Pkwy and 13) with gas at 3.529. I didn't read
> the fine print, but I assumed that was for regular; I stopped at the
> Holiday near me and filled up for $3.379 minus 11 cents/gallon with my
> Cub discount slips.

They just changed the sign to $3.999 here, and over $4 for premium.
This not-having-a-car thing just keeps feeling better and better to me.

Serene (my walking shoes are expensive, but still)

"Serene" > wrote in message
...
> Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>> On my way home from the supermarket I saw a BP (Nicollet & ~126th in
>> Burnsville - between the Pkwy and 13) with gas at 3.529. I didn't read
>> the fine print, but I assumed that was for regular; I stopped at the
>> Holiday near me and filled up for $3.379 minus 11 cents/gallon with my
>> Cub discount slips.
>
> They just changed the sign to $3.999 here, and over $4 for premium. This
> not-having-a-car thing just keeps feeling better and better to me.
>
> Serene (my walking shoes are expensive, but still)

Only having one driver in our house now has its positive sides. It's a pain
sometimes but we've adapted.

Cindi

In article >,
Billy <Hereiam@hotmaildotcom> wrote:

> On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 15:59:19 -0500, Melba's Jammin'
> > wrote:
>
> >On my way home from the supermarket I saw a BP (Nicollet & ~126th in
> >Burnsville - between the Pkwy and 13) with gas at 3.529.
>
> A DEAL! Just got back from Tampa/St. Pete.....3.579.....and why do
> we still price gas with a point five seven nine?
>
> What is more absurd is to see someone at the pump putting in 3 dollars
> and then run into the counter and buy a bottle of water that is
> running in excess of 9.99 per gallon....now that's dumb.


Damn! Damn! Damn! I canceled the article immediately after I
realized my error -- it was not meant for this group!! Not even by
virtue of mentioning the supermarket was it about cooking! Not quick
enough for some, I guess.
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/amytaylor
4/23/2008 The rains fall on the just and the unjust alike; sometimes
our umbrellas are not wide enough to keep us dry.

On Apr 29, 4:20*pm, Billy <Hereiam@hotmaildotcom> wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 15:59:19 -0500, Melba's Jammin'
>
> > wrote:
> >On my way home from the supermarket I saw a BP (Nicollet & ~126th in
> >Burnsville - between the Pkwy and 13) with gas at 3.529.
>
> A DEAL! * Just got back from Tampa/St. Pete.....3.579.....and why do
> we still price gas with a point five seven nine? * * *


I think it has something to do with assessing taxes.

On Apr 29, 4:20*pm, Billy <Hereiam@hotmaildotcom> wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 15:59:19 -0500, Melba's Jammin'
>
> > wrote:
> >On my way home from the supermarket I saw a BP (Nicollet & ~126th in
> >Burnsville - between the Pkwy and 13) with gas at 3.529.
>
> A DEAL! * Just got back from Tampa/St. Pete.....3.579.....and why do
> we still price gas with a point five seven nine? * * *
>
> What is more absurd is to see someone at the pump putting in 3 dollars
> and then run into the counter and buy a bottle of water that is
> running in excess of 9.99 per gallon....now that's dumb. *

It's dumb here in St. Louis, and in any other city that has good tap
water, but when I lived in Tampa/St. Pete, there's no way I'd drink
unfiltered tap water. Ick.
In Tampa, only indigents and those who have no sense of smell drink
tap water.

--Bryan

Melba's Jammin' > wrote:

> gas at 3.529.

Are you bragging? You get it practically for free. I now pay EUR 1.50
a litre here, that is $8.86 a gallon at the current rate of exchange.
And my yearly mileage is probably higher than yours and Rob's together
by factor of at least two or three.

ObFood: Instead of consuming or producing gas on rec.food.cooking, make
semolina gnocchi, from _A Taste of Tuscany_ by Sandra Lotti.

Bubba

Gnocchi di semolino
Semolina Gnocchi

1 quart whole milk, 1 cup water, 11 tablespoons unsalted butter, cut
into pats, 1 tablespoon salt, 1/2 pound semolina, freshly grated
Parmigiano Reggiano

1. Preheat the oven to 350°F. Pour the water and milk into a large
pot, add salt and 8 tablespoons of the butter and bring to a gentle
boil.

2. Pour in the semolina, whisking continuously to prevent lumps. Cook
for 3 minutes or until the mixture is thick and soupy.

3. Pour into a wet flat work surface and using a spatula level the
semolina to a half-inch thickness. Cut into 2-inch squares.

4. Place the squares in a non-stick baking pan. Dust with Parmigiano
Reggiano. Dot with the remaining butter and bake for 10 minutes or
until lightly golden. Serve immediately.

Cindi - HappyMamatoThree wrote:

> "Melba's Jammin'"
> wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > On my way home from the supermarket I saw a BP (Nicollet & ~126th in
> > Burnsville - between the Pkwy and 13) with gas at 3.529. *I didn't read
> > the fine print, but I assumed that was for regular; I stopped at the
> > Holiday near me and filled up for $3.379 minus 11 cents/gallon with my
> > Cub discount slips.
>
> Premium gas here topped $4 this week. Regular was 3.879 when hubby came home
> from work yesterday. I cringe at the thought of having to drive any
> distance. We are working to cut back on gas usage and any travel.
>
> No wonder there is "recession" on the horizon, no one can afford extra
> spending when gas is costing half a paycheck.



Fact is, the free ride that we Americans have been on re. absurdly low
gas and food prices is O - V - E - R ... and about time, too, as we've
been living on "borrowed time" for *way* too long now, especially as
regards gasoline prices...

Americans are a resilient lot, we'll eventually adjust...

A lot of this is driven by the hysteria on the nooze...

I always have to laff when there's a piece on the teevee about "high"
gas prices, usually shows some moron who just bought a gas guzzler who
is "shocked" that gas is so high...

Same about the "food crisis", it wasn't too long ago that we had to
suffer through media hysteria about the prevelance of obesity and HUGE
portion sizes in the United States...now there is some supposed "food
crisis", you'd think that Americans were starving.

The hysteria about gas and food prices is largelymanufactured, just
like the hysteria about the "mortgage crisis"...

Remember, the media LOVES bad nooze, it's good for their bottom
line...

I'd be happy to see gasoline eventually average out to $5.00 per
gallon, then we'd see some *real* action on higher CAFE standards,
increased domestic US drilling, alternative energy sources, including
increased use of nuclear, etc....

This gasoline shit specifically has been going on for ____35___ years
now, maybe these latest price rises will spur some real
action...'though I wouldn't hold my breath. Americans have become
quite lazy as a lot...



--
Best
Greg

Cindi - HappyMamatoThree wrote:
>
> "Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On my way home from the supermarket I saw a BP (Nicollet & ~126th in
> > Burnsville - between the Pkwy and 13) with gas at 3.529. I didn't read
> > the fine print, but I assumed that was for regular; I stopped at the
> > Holiday near me and filled up for $3.379 minus 11 cents/gallon with my
> > Cub discount slips.
> >
>
> Premium gas here topped $4 this week. Regular was 3.879 when hubby came home
> from work yesterday. I cringe at the thought of having to drive any
> distance. We are working to cut back on gas usage and any travel.
>
> No wonder there is "recession" on the horizon, no one can afford extra
> spending when gas is costing half a paycheck.

This whole recession thing is odd and seems to be rather unevenly
distributed. Around me other than high gas prices and the resulting
increase in the prices of things that are shipped i.e. everything else,
I don't see much slowdown or recession. I see a ton of new commercial
construction activity, retail space under construction, a medical center
about to start construction, some hotel / conference center about to
start, at least one manufacturing company building a new building
addition (they did one a couple years ago too), etc.

"Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message
...
> On my way home from the supermarket I saw a BP (Nicollet & ~126th in
> Burnsville - between the Pkwy and 13) with gas at 3.529. I didn't read
> the fine print, but I assumed that was for regular; I stopped at the
> Holiday near me and filled up for $3.379 minus 11 cents/gallon with my
> Cub discount slips.
>
> Oh, the counter guy at the station had just returned from chasing a
> drive-off -- he got his license number. More and more of those
> happening.
> --
> -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
> http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/amytaylor
> 4/23/2008 The rains fall on the just and the unjust alike; sometimes
> our umbrellas are not wide enough to keep us dry.

If you leave your car unattended I would suggest a LOCKING GAS CAP.

That too will begin happening more and more.

Dimitri

Gregory Morrow wrote:
> Cindi - HappyMamatoThree wrote:
>
>> "Melba's Jammin'"
>> wrote in message
>>
>> ...
>>
>>> On my way home from the supermarket I saw a BP (Nicollet & ~126th in
>>> Burnsville - between the Pkwy and 13) with gas at 3.529. I didn't read
>>> the fine print, but I assumed that was for regular; I stopped at the
>>> Holiday near me and filled up for $3.379 minus 11 cents/gallon with my
>>> Cub discount slips.
>> Premium gas here topped $4 this week. Regular was 3.879 when hubby came home
>> from work yesterday. I cringe at the thought of having to drive any
>> distance. We are working to cut back on gas usage and any travel.
>>
>> No wonder there is "recession" on the horizon, no one can afford extra
>> spending when gas is costing half a paycheck.
>
>
>
> Fact is, the free ride that we Americans have been on re. absurdly low
> gas and food prices is O - V - E - R ... and about time, too, as we've
> been living on "borrowed time" for *way* too long now, especially as
> regards gasoline prices...
>
> Americans are a resilient lot, we'll eventually adjust...
>
> A lot of this is driven by the hysteria on the nooze...
>
> I always have to laff when there's a piece on the teevee about "high"
> gas prices, usually shows some moron who just bought a gas guzzler who
> is "shocked" that gas is so high...
>
> Same about the "food crisis", it wasn't too long ago that we had to
> suffer through media hysteria about the prevelance of obesity and HUGE
> portion sizes in the United States...now there is some supposed "food
> crisis", you'd think that Americans were starving.
>
> The hysteria about gas and food prices is largelymanufactured, just
> like the hysteria about the "mortgage crisis"...
>
> Remember, the media LOVES bad nooze, it's good for their bottom
> line...
>
> I'd be happy to see gasoline eventually average out to $5.00 per
> gallon, then we'd see some *real* action on higher CAFE standards,
> increased domestic US drilling, alternative energy sources, including
> increased use of nuclear, etc....
>
> This gasoline shit specifically has been going on for ____35___ years
> now, maybe these latest price rises will spur some real
> action...'though I wouldn't hold my breath. Americans have become
> quite lazy as a lot...
>
>
>
> --
> Best
> Greg
>
That 35 years is about the time the last US refinery was built.

We are two people in this house with two cars. DW drives an '06 Hyundai
Accent that gets 36 mpg on a good day and 34 on a bad day. I drive an
'07 Dodge Dakota pickup truck with a 3.7 liter V6 and automatic
transmission. Don't know what it gets yet, I've had it about two months
and am still on the second tank of gas after the dealership filled it.
Still less than 700 miles on it and I bought it with 75 miles on the
odometer. Wife works, I don't.

George

Pete C. wrote:
> Cindi - HappyMamatoThree wrote:
>> "Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On my way home from the supermarket I saw a BP (Nicollet & ~126th in
>>> Burnsville - between the Pkwy and 13) with gas at 3.529. I didn't read
>>> the fine print, but I assumed that was for regular; I stopped at the
>>> Holiday near me and filled up for $3.379 minus 11 cents/gallon with my
>>> Cub discount slips.
>>>
>> Premium gas here topped $4 this week. Regular was 3.879 when hubby came home
>> from work yesterday. I cringe at the thought of having to drive any
>> distance. We are working to cut back on gas usage and any travel.
>>
>> No wonder there is "recession" on the horizon, no one can afford extra
>> spending when gas is costing half a paycheck.
>
> This whole recession thing is odd and seems to be rather unevenly
> distributed. Around me other than high gas prices and the resulting
> increase in the prices of things that are shipped i.e. everything else,
> I don't see much slowdown or recession. I see a ton of new commercial
> construction activity, retail space under construction, a medical center
> about to start construction, some hotel / conference center about to
> start, at least one manufacturing company building a new building
> addition (they did one a couple years ago too), etc.
We've got the same stuff going on here, another new motel in our small
town, about $2B in heavy construction scheduled and working. Three LNG
plants being built and only about 35 miles away another $4B in heavy
construction, all of which affects our workforce. The whole area is
short on trained crafts people for heavy construction.

George

Dimitri wrote:
>
> "Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On my way home from the supermarket I saw a BP (Nicollet & ~126th in
>> Burnsville - between the Pkwy and 13) with gas at 3.529. I didn't read
>> the fine print, but I assumed that was for regular; I stopped at the
>> Holiday near me and filled up for $3.379 minus 11 cents/gallon with my
>> Cub discount slips.
>>
>> Oh, the counter guy at the station had just returned from chasing a
>> drive-off -- he got his license number. More and more of those
>> happening.
>> --
>> -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
>> http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/amytaylor
>> 4/23/2008 The rains fall on the just and the unjust alike; sometimes
>> our umbrellas are not wide enough to keep us dry.
>
> If you leave your car unattended I would suggest a LOCKING GAS CAP.
>
> That too will begin happening more and more.
>
> Dimitri
There was a warning about unattended vehicles being robbed of their gas
in the paper here this morning. Seems the crooks have been hitting
school buses as some drivers are allowed to drive them home and also
vehicles at businesses overnight. The crooks aren't just siphoning the
gas, they're cutting fuel lines and even knocking holes in gas tanks to
get to the gasoline.

We've started parking ours inside the fence just to be sure.

George

George Shirley wrote:


> There was a warning about unattended vehicles being robbed of their gas
> in the paper here this morning. Seems the crooks have been hitting
> school buses as some drivers are allowed to drive them home and also
> vehicles at businesses overnight. The crooks aren't just siphoning the
> gas, they're cutting fuel lines and even knocking holes in gas tanks to
> get to the gasoline.
>
> We've started parking ours inside the fence just to be sure.
>
> George

The other popular one because of the high price of metals is to use a
battery powered sawzall to cut off the catalytic converter (they contain
platinum). I understand they get ~ $250 at the scrap yard for each one.

George wrote:
> George Shirley wrote:
>
>
>> There was a warning about unattended vehicles being robbed of their
>> gas in the paper here this morning. Seems the crooks have been hitting
>> school buses as some drivers are allowed to drive them home and also
>> vehicles at businesses overnight. The crooks aren't just siphoning the
>> gas, they're cutting fuel lines and even knocking holes in gas tanks
>> to get to the gasoline.
>>
>> We've started parking ours inside the fence just to be sure.
>>
>> George
>
> The other popular one because of the high price of metals is to use a
> battery powered sawzall to cut off the catalytic converter (they contain
> platinum). I understand they get ~ $250 at the scrap yard for each one.
Our area has had a recent rash of theft of air conditioner coils. They
come in with a sawzall, cut the coil out and haul it off. In addition to
the theft of the copper, they're letting the refrigerant go to the
atmosphere. Local police officer told me about catching a couple of guys
trying to cut down power lines for the copper.

If metals have gone that high I may take up ditch diving for aluminum
cans and gather scrap copper out of trash cans. Probably got several
dollars worth of copper scrap out in my shop. Pure platinum is selling
for over a thousand dollars an ounce, gold is about $866, and silver is
over $16.50 an ounce, highest I've seen since the Hunt boys tried to
corner the world silver market. No wonder our local scrap dealer is
advertising for more help.

George Shirley wrote:
>
> Pete C. wrote:
> > Cindi - HappyMamatoThree wrote:
> >> "Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>> On my way home from the supermarket I saw a BP (Nicollet & ~126th in
> >>> Burnsville - between the Pkwy and 13) with gas at 3.529. I didn't read
> >>> the fine print, but I assumed that was for regular; I stopped at the
> >>> Holiday near me and filled up for $3.379 minus 11 cents/gallon with my
> >>> Cub discount slips.
> >>>
> >> Premium gas here topped $4 this week. Regular was 3.879 when hubby came home
> >> from work yesterday. I cringe at the thought of having to drive any
> >> distance. We are working to cut back on gas usage and any travel.
> >>
> >> No wonder there is "recession" on the horizon, no one can afford extra
> >> spending when gas is costing half a paycheck.
> >
> > This whole recession thing is odd and seems to be rather unevenly
> > distributed. Around me other than high gas prices and the resulting
> > increase in the prices of things that are shipped i.e. everything else,
> > I don't see much slowdown or recession. I see a ton of new commercial
> > construction activity, retail space under construction, a medical center
> > about to start construction, some hotel / conference center about to
> > start, at least one manufacturing company building a new building
> > addition (they did one a couple years ago too), etc.
> We've got the same stuff going on here, another new motel in our small
> town, about $2B in heavy construction scheduled and working. Three LNG
> plants being built and only about 35 miles away another $4B in heavy
> construction, all of which affects our workforce. The whole area is
> short on trained crafts people for heavy construction.
>
> George

A few US manufacturing business owners that post in some other
newsgroups I frequent have also indicated they are swamped with orders
and hiring. There seems to be a big disconnect between what the media is
reporting and what real people are reporting.

George wrote:
>
> George Shirley wrote:
>
> > There was a warning about unattended vehicles being robbed of their gas
> > in the paper here this morning. Seems the crooks have been hitting
> > school buses as some drivers are allowed to drive them home and also
> > vehicles at businesses overnight. The crooks aren't just siphoning the
> > gas, they're cutting fuel lines and even knocking holes in gas tanks to
> > get to the gasoline.
> >
> > We've started parking ours inside the fence just to be sure.
> >
> > George
>
> The other popular one because of the high price of metals is to use a
> battery powered sawzall to cut off the catalytic converter (they contain
> platinum). I understand they get ~ $250 at the scrap yard for each one.

I expect that is a myth since junkyards are on high alert for stolen
"scrap" coming in, as well as cats sell for less than that new retail.

In article 1>,
"Michael \"Dog3\"" > wrote:


> It's been around the $3.57+ at various stations around here for the past
> week or so. It'll be $4.00 a gallon by July I'll bet.


I hope it'll hold off till next week here. The local station is at
3.969 last time I looked, and it goes up a few cents every week.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

"Pete C." > wrote in message
.. .
>
> George wrote:
>>
>> George Shirley wrote:
>>
>> > There was a warning about unattended vehicles being robbed of their gas
>> > in the paper here this morning. Seems the crooks have been hitting
>> > school buses as some drivers are allowed to drive them home and also
>> > vehicles at businesses overnight. The crooks aren't just siphoning the
>> > gas, they're cutting fuel lines and even knocking holes in gas tanks to
>> > get to the gasoline.
>> >
>> > We've started parking ours inside the fence just to be sure.
>> >
>> > George
>>
>> The other popular one because of the high price of metals is to use a
>> battery powered sawzall to cut off the catalytic converter (they contain
>> platinum). I understand they get ~ $250 at the scrap yard for each one.
>
> I expect that is a myth since junkyards are on high alert for stolen
> "scrap" coming in, as well as cats sell for less than that new retail.

Catalytic converters are frequently re-cored. I bought one for my old truck
2 years ago and it was only 150.00. Worked like new. But don't doubt the
reason organized crime loves scrap[ yards. Huge profits can be made with
them. All cash transactions, too. Ripe for crime.

Paul

Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> On my way home from the supermarket I saw a BP (Nicollet & ~126th in
> Burnsville - between the Pkwy and 13) with gas at 3.529. I didn't read
> the fine print, but I assumed that was for regular; I stopped at the
> Holiday near me and filled up for $3.379 minus 11 cents/gallon with my
> Cub discount slips.
>


Yesterday I filled up at $3.39 but today as I drove to the airport the
cheapest I saw was $3.45. OTOH, all I needed was 1/2 tank, 5 gallons,
and my average mileage since the last fill was 47 mpg.

Gotta love that Prius (as long as you're not on snow or ice...)

gloria p

George Shirley wrote:

>
> If metals have gone that high I may take up ditch diving for aluminum
> cans and gather scrap copper out of trash cans.

I took two trash bags of soda cans to a recycling place a few weeks ago
(we save them at work and because no one else will bother, I take
them in about twice a year.) I think I got ~$15 for them. The guy
ahead of me had to show a license and car registration which was
recorded in a logbook. The attendant told me they do it for all metals
except aluminum cans and that the police check the logs occasionally.

gloria p

"Gloria P" > wrote

> George Shirley wrote:

>> If metals have gone that high I may take up ditch diving for aluminum
>> cans and gather scrap copper out of trash cans.
>
> I took two trash bags of soda cans to a recycling place a few weeks ago
> (we save them at work and because no one else will bother, I take
> them in about twice a year.) I think I got ~$15 for them. The guy
> ahead of me had to show a license and car registration which was recorded
> in a logbook. The attendant told me they do it for all metals except
> aluminum cans and that the police check the logs occasionally.

I wondered about that, you hear about people stealing copper wire,
pipes, etc., to sell and I think who is buying it. Put a stop to it there.
Not as if everyone has a smelter in their basement.

nancy

Gloria P wrote:

> I took two trash bags of soda cans to a recycling place a few weeks ago
> (we save them at work and because no one else will bother, I take
> them in about twice a year.) I think I got ~$15 for them. The guy
> ahead of me had to show a license and car registration which was
> recorded in a logbook. The attendant told me they do it for all metals
> except aluminum cans and that the police check the logs occasionally.

we've had a rash of catalytic converter thefts in my area. Someone I
work with had hers stolen, but they took the time and effort to cut it
out neatly rather than just rip it out. This apparently made it a tad
easier for her to replace (although costly).

On Tue 29 Apr 2008 08:28:58p, Nancy Young told us...

>
> "Gloria P" > wrote
>
>> George Shirley wrote:
>
>>> If metals have gone that high I may take up ditch diving for aluminum
>>> cans and gather scrap copper out of trash cans.
>>
>> I took two trash bags of soda cans to a recycling place a few weeks ago
>> (we save them at work and because no one else will bother, I take
>> them in about twice a year.) I think I got ~$15 for them. The guy
>> ahead of me had to show a license and car registration which was
recorded
>> in a logbook. The attendant told me they do it for all metals except
>> aluminum cans and that the police check the logs occasionally.
>
> I wondered about that, you hear about people stealing copper wire,
> pipes, etc., to sell and I think who is buying it. Put a stop to it
there.
> Not as if everyone has a smelter in their basement.
>
> nancy
>
>
>

We don't have a basement, but we do have a shed. :-)

--
Wayne Boatwright
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Countdown till Memorial Day
3wks 5dys 2hrs 55mins
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Useless Invention: Ice skate sandals,
for use in hot climates.
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On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 22:19:41 -0700, Blinky the Shark
> wrote:

>Serene wrote:
>
>> Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>>> On my way home from the supermarket I saw a BP (Nicollet & ~126th in
>>> Burnsville - between the Pkwy and 13) with gas at 3.529. I didn't read
>>> the fine print, but I assumed that was for regular; I stopped at the
>>> Holiday near me and filled up for $3.379 minus 11 cents/gallon with my
>>> Cub discount slips.
>>
>> They just changed the sign to $3.999 here, and over $4 for premium. This
>> not-having-a-car thing just keeps feeling better and better to me.
>
>Aye. Saw $3.999 here (Los Angeles) today, as well.
>

Welcome to the world of regular gas selling for $4 a gallon. Add
another 50¢ for premium.

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In article >,
Melba's Jammin' > wrote:

> On my way home from the supermarket I saw a BP (Nicollet & ~126th in
> Burnsville - between the Pkwy and 13) with gas at 3.529. I didn't read
> the fine print, but I assumed that was for regular; I stopped at the
> Holiday near me and filled up for $3.379 minus 11 cents/gallon with my
> Cub discount slips.
>
> Oh, the counter guy at the station had just returned from chasing a
> drive-off -- he got his license number. More and more of those
> happening.

Petrol here is about to hit $2/litre, so call it $7.50/US gallon.

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In article >,
(Victor Sack) wrote:

> Melba's Jammin' > wrote:
>
> > gas at 3.529.
>
> Are you bragging? You get it practically for free. I now pay EUR 1.50
> a litre here, that is $8.86 a gallon at the current rate of exchange.

Ah, I didn't bother with exchange rates. NZ's will probably come out
about the same as yours.

Miche

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On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 22:44:20 -0700, rrb > wrote:

>Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>> On my way home from the supermarket I saw a BP (Nicollet & ~126th in
>> Burnsville - between the Pkwy and 13) with gas at 3.529. I didn't read
>> the fine print, but I assumed that was for regular; I stopped at the
>> Holiday near me and filled up for $3.379 minus 11 cents/gallon with my
>> Cub discount slips.
>>
>> Oh, the counter guy at the station had just returned from chasing a
>> drive-off -- he got his license number. More and more of those
>> happening.
>
>Uh, they don't do pay first where you are? ALL transactions here are PAY
>first before dispensing!

No, some of us have the option to pay after the fill up.

>$3.529 would be a bargain here. I just paid 3.859 a gallon for regular a
>few days ago in CA. The lowest reported price here is 3.77 for regular.


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In article >,
George Shirley > wrote:

> If metals have gone that high I may take up ditch diving for aluminum
> cans and gather scrap copper out of trash cans. Probably got several
> dollars worth of copper scrap out in my shop. Pure platinum is selling
> for over a thousand dollars an ounce, gold is about $866, and silver is
> over $16.50 an ounce, highest I've seen since the Hunt boys tried to
> corner the world silver market. No wonder our local scrap dealer is
> advertising for more help.

When I was working for a civil engineering company last year, the
electricians had a 44 gallon drum that they'd put all their scrap copper
in. When it was full they'd take it and sell the copper. At the end of
the year they'd use the proceeds for their Christmas party.

Sounds like they'll be able to have one hell of a knees-up this year.

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wrote:

> On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 22:19:41 -0700, Blinky the Shark >
> wrote:
>
>>Serene wrote:
>>
>>> Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>>>> On my way home from the supermarket I saw a BP (Nicollet & ~126th in
>>>> Burnsville - between the Pkwy and 13) with gas at 3.529. I didn't
>>>> read the fine print, but I assumed that was for regular; I stopped at
>>>> the Holiday near me and filled up for $3.379 minus 11 cents/gallon
>>>> with my Cub discount slips.
>>>
>>> They just changed the sign to $3.999 here, and over $4 for premium.
>>> This not-having-a-car thing just keeps feeling better and better to me.
>>
>>Aye. Saw $3.999 here (Los Angeles) today, as well.
>>
>>
> Welcome to the world of regular gas selling for $4 a gallon. Add another
> 50¢ for premium.

Quite a queue at Costco yesterday in each of their what...probably eight
lanes.


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In article >,
Melba's Jammin' > wrote:

> In article >,
> Billy <Hereiam@hotmaildotcom> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 15:59:19 -0500, Melba's Jammin'
> > > wrote:
> >
> > >On my way home from the supermarket I saw a BP (Nicollet & ~126th in
> > >Burnsville - between the Pkwy and 13) with gas at 3.529.
> >
> > A DEAL! Just got back from Tampa/St. Pete.....3.579.....and why do
> > we still price gas with a point five seven nine?
> >
> > What is more absurd is to see someone at the pump putting in 3 dollars
> > and then run into the counter and buy a bottle of water that is
> > running in excess of 9.99 per gallon....now that's dumb.
>
>
> Damn! Damn! Damn! I canceled the article immediately after I
> realized my error -- it was not meant for this group!! Not even by
> virtue of mentioning the supermarket was it about cooking! Not quick
> enough for some, I guess.

My understanding is that not all servers honour cancels. I honestly
don't know whether the one I use does or not.

Either way, no big, I get as amused by complaints that chicken is up to
$2/pound (the best price I can get here is usually on the order of
$5/pound) as I do by complaints about the price of petrol.

Miche

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"Victor Sack" > ha scritto nel messaggio
.. .
> Melba's Jammin' > wrote:
>
>> gas at 3.529.
>
> Are you bragging? You get it practically for free. I now pay EUR 1.50
> a litre here, that is $8.86 a gallon at the current rate of exchange.

I pay euro 1.40 per liter.

> And my yearly mileage is probably higher than yours and Rob's together
> by factor of at least two or three.

Not mine. I have restricted my movements so severely I am growing moss on
my north side.

> ObFood: Instead of consuming or producing gas on rec.food.cooking, make
> semolina gnocchi, from _A Taste of Tuscany_ by Sandra Lotti.
>
> Bubba
>
> Gnocchi di semolino
> Semolina Gnocchi
>
> 1 quart whole milk, 1 cup water, 11 tablespoons unsalted butter, cut
> into pats, 1 tablespoon salt, 1/2 pound semolina, freshly grated
> Parmigiano Reggiano
>
> 1. Preheat the oven to 350°F. Pour the water and milk into a large
> pot, add salt and 8 tablespoons of the butter and bring to a gentle
> boil.
>
> 2. Pour in the semolina, whisking continuously to prevent lumps. Cook
> for 3 minutes or until the mixture is thick and soupy.
>
> 3. Pour into a wet flat work surface and using a spatula level the
> semolina to a half-inch thickness. Cut into 2-inch squares.
>
> 4. Place the squares in a non-stick baking pan. Dust with Parmigiano
> Reggiano. Dot with the remaining butter and bake for 10 minutes or
> until lightly golden. Serve immediately.

We were forced in school to instead use two sopup spoons to make smooth
ovals of this mixture. I assume ours was a bit stiffer than yours. It was
a lot of fuss and I wasn't that crazy for them.

"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote

> On Tue 29 Apr 2008 08:28:58p, Nancy Young told us...

>> I wondered about that, you hear about people stealing copper wire,
>> pipes, etc., to sell and I think who is buying it. Put a stop to it
> there.
>> Not as if everyone has a smelter in their basement.

> We don't have a basement, but we do have a shed. :-)

True enough! Where you live, no need for a smelter anyway!

nancy

George Shirley wrote:

> We've got the same stuff going on here, another new motel in our small
> town, about $2B in heavy construction scheduled and working. Three LNG
> plants being built and only about 35 miles away another $4B in heavy
> construction, all of which affects our workforce. The whole area is
> short on trained crafts people for heavy construction.
>
> George

Can I suggest that what you are seeing reflects the condition of the
economy in the past? Large projects take years of planning and almost
never reflect shorter trends. The funds for those projects were approved
a long time ago.

The segment that is currently tanked is residential construction because
of the bubble that imploded. There were greedy bankers with their
"sophisticated computer models" making loans to greedy people who
clearly couldn't afford what they were buying coupled with the over
leveraged flippers who behaved like they were at the casino and thought
there were no limits to how much they could make. Add in the creative
banking where they used smoke and mirrors to create sub prime
derivatives that no one admits to understanding to sell these dubious
mortgages to others. Yet greedy bankers bought and sold them including
some extra greedy ones like Merrill who actually bought their own crap
paper.

Pete C. wrote:
> George wrote:
>> George Shirley wrote:
>>
>>> There was a warning about unattended vehicles being robbed of their gas
>>> in the paper here this morning. Seems the crooks have been hitting
>>> school buses as some drivers are allowed to drive them home and also
>>> vehicles at businesses overnight. The crooks aren't just siphoning the
>>> gas, they're cutting fuel lines and even knocking holes in gas tanks to
>>> get to the gasoline.
>>>
>>> We've started parking ours inside the fence just to be sure.
>>>
>>> George
>> The other popular one because of the high price of metals is to use a
>> battery powered sawzall to cut off the catalytic converter (they contain
>> platinum). I understand they get ~ $250 at the scrap yard for each one.
>
> I expect that is a myth since junkyards are on high alert for stolen
> "scrap" coming in, as well as cats sell for less than that new retail.

Maybe not in your area or you just don't know about it. There will
always be a market for such goods if there is more profit to be made.
$250 is actually what the riff riff who do the cutting get. The platinum
is worth a lot more.

Paul M. Cook wrote:
> "Pete C." > wrote in message
> .. .
>> George wrote:
>>> George Shirley wrote:
>>>
>>>> There was a warning about unattended vehicles being robbed of their gas
>>>> in the paper here this morning. Seems the crooks have been hitting
>>>> school buses as some drivers are allowed to drive them home and also
>>>> vehicles at businesses overnight. The crooks aren't just siphoning the
>>>> gas, they're cutting fuel lines and even knocking holes in gas tanks to
>>>> get to the gasoline.
>>>>
>>>> We've started parking ours inside the fence just to be sure.
>>>>
>>>> George
>>> The other popular one because of the high price of metals is to use a
>>> battery powered sawzall to cut off the catalytic converter (they contain
>>> platinum). I understand they get ~ $250 at the scrap yard for each one.
>> I expect that is a myth since junkyards are on high alert for stolen
>> "scrap" coming in, as well as cats sell for less than that new retail.
>
> Catalytic converters are frequently re-cored. I bought one for my old truck
> 2 years ago and it was only 150.00. Worked like new. But don't doubt the
> reason organized crime loves scrap[ yards. Huge profits can be made with
> them. All cash transactions, too. Ripe for crime.
>
> Paul
>
>
For sure, in my area the biggest scrap yard is operated by the local
organized crime family ahem..."respected local businessman".

Your experience of 2 years ago also doesn't reflect the huge spike in
metal prices. Platinum is now above $1,900/oz.

sf wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 22:44:20 -0700, rrb > wrote:
>
>> Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>>> On my way home from the supermarket I saw a BP (Nicollet & ~126th in
>>> Burnsville - between the Pkwy and 13) with gas at 3.529. I didn't read
>>> the fine print, but I assumed that was for regular; I stopped at the
>>> Holiday near me and filled up for $3.379 minus 11 cents/gallon with my
>>> Cub discount slips.
>>>
>>> Oh, the counter guy at the station had just returned from chasing a
>>> drive-off -- he got his license number. More and more of those
>>> happening.
>> Uh, they don't do pay first where you are? ALL transactions here are PAY
>> first before dispensing!
>
> No, some of us have the option to pay after the fill up.
>
Only one chain was doing that in my area and they stopped when prices
climbed. They have cameras everywhere and the attendant would simply
call the police who would respond and get the tag/car info and a copy of
that video from the the DVR. It would cost people over $400 by the time
they paid the fine at the magistrates office.



>> $3.529 would be a bargain here. I just paid 3.859 a gallon for regular a
>> few days ago in CA. The lowest reported price here is 3.77 for regular.
>
>

Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Tue 29 Apr 2008 08:28:58p, Nancy Young told us...
>
>> "Gloria P" > wrote
>>
>>> George Shirley wrote:
>>>> If metals have gone that high I may take up ditch diving for aluminum
>>>> cans and gather scrap copper out of trash cans.
>>> I took two trash bags of soda cans to a recycling place a few weeks ago
>>> (we save them at work and because no one else will bother, I take
>>> them in about twice a year.) I think I got ~$15 for them. The guy
>>> ahead of me had to show a license and car registration which was
> recorded
>>> in a logbook. The attendant told me they do it for all metals except
>>> aluminum cans and that the police check the logs occasionally.
>> I wondered about that, you hear about people stealing copper wire,
>> pipes, etc., to sell and I think who is buying it. Put a stop to it
> there.
>> Not as if everyone has a smelter in their basement.
>>
>> nancy
>>
>>
>>
>
> We don't have a basement, but we do have a shed. :-)
>
I know a feller over in Texas that has been scavenging computer cards
for years. He recovers any precious metals from them and has a small
furnace in his garage. Has made his living doing such things since about
1982 IIRC. He has more gumption than I do.