On Sat 03 May 2008 07:52:27a, PeterLucas told us...

> Wayne Boatwright > wrote in
> 3.184:
>
>
>>
>>> Unless the 'person' is allegic to just about everything (in which
>>> case she shouldn't be foisting herself on any 'friends'), if she has
>>> "special needs" she should take care of them.
>>
>> He has absolutely no allergies to any foods or medications.
>
>
>
> Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh!! So he's just being a spoilt little child.
>
>
> "Gimme, gimme, gimme..... pay me attention."

Honestly, not really. It's just an aversion. If I didn't cook for him
differently, it wouldn't matter to him. He'd just find something else to
eat.

>>> Within 3 weeks of moving in with me, all kids and all adults were
>>> eating the same food........ and no-one died!! Go Figger!!!
>>
>> I wish that would have worked here, but he would simply not eat what I
>> preferred to cook and would just go out for a McDonald's.
>
>
>
> That's fine.
>
>
> But that **really** shows the level of feeling and commitment that he
> has for you.

No, it really doesn't, Peter. There's absolutely nothing that he would do
for me, apart from the food thing.

> FFS!! I was willing to become a frikken vego for my CA wife!!
>
> Improvise, Adapt, Overcome.
>
>
> (And I'll come back to the Slack-Macs thing later!!)
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>> I cook 2 different meals on most nights, in self defense, because I
>> won't stoop to his pitiful level of taste. :-)
>>
>
>
> Stop doing it Wayne.
>
>
> Because as long as you continue to cater to the needs of an attention
> seeking asswipe, they'll continue to act like children and continue to
> drag as much out of you as they can.
>
> I'd rather live by myself than have to cater to someone like that.

Maybe I'm making it sound worse than it is. It's not a hardship for me.
Anything he likes to eat just takes a warming up or a quick grilling. What
I make for myself takes a lot more effort.

I understand and appreciate your position, but in our situation it really
isn't a hardship.

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Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> Oh, he has absolutely no allergies, just a psychological aversion. I
> look at it this way...he doesn't know what he's missing. :-)

We accept the idiosyncrasies of those we love

On Sat 03 May 2008 07:46:40a, Andy told us...

> Wayne Boatwright said...
>
>> On Sat 03 May 2008 07:07:28a, Andy told us...
>>
>>> Wayne Boatwright said...
>>>
>>>> On Sat 03 May 2008 01:56:52a, Andy told us...
>>>>
>>>>> Wayne Boatwright said...
>>>>>
>>>>> Makes no sense to me. :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Pounds, shillings or pence! (Roger Waters).
>>>>>
>>>>> What a picky SOB David is!
>>>>
>>>> No question about that!
>>>>
>>>>> Not a shred of gourmet in him, obviously.
>>>>
>>>> Well, maybe one shred. He wolved down the Chicken Kiev when I took
him
>>>> to The Russian Tea Room some years ago. :-)
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Andy
>>>
>>>
>>> Oooh!!! The Russian Tea Room in Manhattan!??
>>>
>>> Pretty good eats!!!
>>>
>>> Is it still open?!?
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>
>>
>> I don't think so. It went through a $32 million dollar renovation and
>> reopened in 1998 as a very showy glitzy fiasco, only to close after 3
>> years. I don't believe it ever re-opened. So sad. The original had a
>> wonderful "old world" elegance.
>
>
> RATS!
>
>
>> In a former life with a former partner, we used to go there for the
>> caviar and vodka "tastings", following by a sumptious dinner. Those
>> were the days!
>
>
> Ah, the days of big fat expense accounts!
>
> Andy
>

When we lived in NE OH, we used to take "cram Manhattan" trips 3-4 times a
year. We would be therr anywhere from 3-5 days, see a show everynight, eat
in a variety of restaurants, shop until we couldn't carry anymore. It was
nice to have a big salary in those days.

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On Sat 03 May 2008 08:22:10a, PeterLucas told us...

> Dave Smith > wrote in news:481C8254.CD5089D5
> @sympatico.ca:
>
>> PeterLucas wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I ate vegetarian Chinese that tasted like beef snot...... I lived.
>>
>> That was probably tofu :-)
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> Silken tofu, to be exact.
>
> Along with slimey mushrooms.

UGH! Now that's something i'd prefer not to eat. Call me picky! :-)



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On Sat 03 May 2008 10:26:51a, Gloria P told us...

> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
>>
>> Okay, here goes, but it's not a particularly inspiring list...
>>
>> Canned Green Peas or Peas and Carrots, buttered or in a white sauce
>> Fresh Carrots, sliced and cooked soft
>> Potatoes in almost any form, mashed, cubed and parslied, creamed,
>> fried, au gratin, scalloped
>> White rice with brown gravy
>> Canned Corn or Corn on the Cob
>> Almost any for of beef, as long as there is no bone or visible fat
>> Boneless, skinless chicken breast, flattened and grilled
>> Roast turkey, prime white meat slices only
>> Boneless center cut pork chops
>> Hot dogs, boiled
>> Burger, burgers, burgers, fried or grilled
>> No salads of any type, vegetable or fruit
>> No bits or pieces of tomato, onion, or garlic in anything
>> Canned peaches and pears
>> Desserts? Chocolate only, and no nuts
>>
>> Very sad, isn't it?
>>
>
> Pitiful. Just imagine what he is missing, both flavor and
> nutrition-wise. I can't understand how an adult can be so anal and
> narrow-minded. SOunds like our 6 yr. old grandson, but there's hope
> for him since we can bribe him into tasting things and he often decides
> "Hey, that's GOOD!"
>
> gloria p
>

Yes, pitiful. If his upbringing had been better, it may not have ended up
like this.

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On Sat 03 May 2008 11:10:36a, Ophelia told us...

> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>> Oh, he has absolutely no allergies, just a psychological aversion. I
>> look at it this way...he doesn't know what he's missing. :-)
>
> We accept the idiosyncrasies of those we love

We do, indeed, O.



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"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
3.184...
> On Sat 03 May 2008 07:07:28a, Andy told us...
>>
>> Is it still open?!?
>>
>> Andy
>>
>
> I don't think so. It went through a $32 million dollar renovation and
> reopened in 1998 as a very showy glitzy fiasco, only to close after 3
> years. I don't believe it ever re-opened. So sad. The original had a
> wonderful "old world" elegance.

http://www.russiantearoomnyc.com/

HTH-
Mary

Wayne Boatwright wrote:

>
> It's all in his head. Oh, he wasn't spoiled, just never
> exposed or forced to taste or eat anything he didn't want to. As a child
> growing up, he subsisted on hot dogs, balogna, and peanut butter.
>


Hah! I had a younger cousin, the baby of his family of six,
who existed on peanut butter and the occasional ear of fresh
corn or chocolate cake until he was married (I don't know
what has happened since.)

When asked to try something different he would look at it
briefly and say "My eyes don't like it."

I can't imagine my late uncle putting up with that, but as a
small farmer with six kids, I suspect he didn't even notice
Jim was around most of the time, much less what he ate or
didn't.

gloria p

"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
3.184...
> For many reasons we missed having a corned beef dinner on St. Patrick's
> Day, although I had two briskets in the freezer.
>
> Tonight it's corned beef with red potatoes, carrots, cabbage, rutabaga,
> parsnips, and onions. I pretty much followed the Bon Appetit recipe with
> Guinness, but my own varitions on spice blends.

Sounds good, Wayne! You can give David's portion to me...

Last night we grilled a couple of pork tenderloins that I had marinated in
lemon juice, lime juice, oil, lots of garlic, some Penzey's Adobo seasoning,
and s/p for two days. Served them with mashed taters, grilled asparagus, and
a tomato-cucumber salad. The pork was *quite* yummy, and we have enough
leftover for dinner tonight.

Mary

On Sat 03 May 2008 11:36:40a, MareCat told us...

> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
> 3.184...
>> On Sat 03 May 2008 07:07:28a, Andy told us...
>>>
>>> Is it still open?!?
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>
>>
>> I don't think so. It went through a $32 million dollar renovation and
>> reopened in 1998 as a very showy glitzy fiasco, only to close after 3
>> years. I don't believe it ever re-opened. So sad. The original had a
>> wonderful "old world" elegance.
>
> http://www.russiantearoomnyc.com/
>
> HTH-
> Mary
>
>

Thanks, Mary. I had no idea. Since we moved to Arizona I haven' been back
to Manhattan. I really miss it.

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On Sat 03 May 2008 11:38:42a, Gloria P told us...

> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
>>
>> It's all in his head. Oh, he wasn't spoiled, just never
>> exposed or forced to taste or eat anything he didn't want to. As a
child
>> growing up, he subsisted on hot dogs, balogna, and peanut butter.
>>
>
>
> Hah! I had a younger cousin, the baby of his family of six,
> who existed on peanut butter and the occasional ear of fresh
> corn or chocolate cake until he was married (I don't know
> what has happened since.)
>
> When asked to try something different he would look at it
> briefly and say "My eyes don't like it."
>
> I can't imagine my late uncle putting up with that, but as a
> small farmer with six kids, I suspect he didn't even notice
> Jim was around most of the time, much less what he ate or
> didn't.
>
> gloria p

That was sort of David's case when he was growing up. There were also six
kids and both parents were alcoholics. The father was both physically and
psychologically abusive. I doubt that anyone in that house knew what
anyone else was doing or eating, much less cared.

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On Sat 03 May 2008 11:45:44a, MareCat told us...

> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
> 3.184...
>> For many reasons we missed having a corned beef dinner on St. Patrick's
>> Day, although I had two briskets in the freezer.
>>
>> Tonight it's corned beef with red potatoes, carrots, cabbage, rutabaga,
>> parsnips, and onions. I pretty much followed the Bon Appetit recipe
>> with Guinness, but my own varitions on spice blends.
>
> Sounds good, Wayne! You can give David's portion to me...
>
> Last night we grilled a couple of pork tenderloins that I had marinated
> in lemon juice, lime juice, oil, lots of garlic, some Penzey's Adobo
> seasoning, and s/p for two days. Served them with mashed taters, grilled
> asparagus, and a tomato-cucumber salad. The pork was *quite* yummy, and
> we have enough leftover for dinner tonight.
>
> Mary
>
>

Sounds like super dinner, mary! One I would like for sure.

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On Sat 03 May 2008 10:07:39a, Janet Baraclough told us...

> The message >
> from "Nancy Young" > contains these words:
>
>> People like that are good for one thing, if people say I'm picky
>> because I don't want cherries on my pork chop, I can say Well,
>> I do eat vegetables and corned beef (even if it is pink). You want
>> picky, ask Wayne about David.
>
> BDDTGTTS. From my experience, it's an attention seeking device
> indulged by co-dependents. One party is playing the hand-fed baby and
> the other is playing the indulgent parent . Both are playing at "proof
> of love".
>
> The real proof of love, is to cut the apron strings and meet the
> other person on equal terms, instead of child/parent, boss/servant,
> needer/provider.
>
> Janet

That may well be true in many instances, but we are on par with each other
in every other aspect of our lives. Food issues quickly bacame non-issues
in our relationship, and quite honestly, it doesn't matter to me at all.

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On Sat 03 May 2008 10:42:33a, Janet Baraclough told us...

> The message 4>
> from Wayne Boatwright > contains these
> words:
>
>
>
>> I wish that would have worked here, but he would simply not eat what I
>> preferred to cook and would just go out for a McDonald's.
>
> So let him; it's not the end of the world. .
>
>> I cook 2 different meals on most nights, in self defense, because I
>> won't stoop to his pitiful level of taste. :-)
>
> What you're defending, is your powerful role as nurturer versus his
> role as the wayward child who spits out food.
>
> Janet

Not really, Janet. You don't actually know us. When I cook a meal we
usually share whatever meat I choose to make unless it's something he
clearly doesn't like, as well as at least one of the vegetables that we
both like. I willl make a second vegetable for each of us. It's no big
deal.

If I want Chinese I have it, and he may go and have a McDonald's. I don't
care. Other similar situations, too. I don't cater to him as much as I
may have implied.

Everyone has likes and dislikes. For example, I absolutely detest oysters
and squid (unless it's fried). There's no way in hell anyone could make me
eat them.

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Usual Friday night pizza out with a buddy. Unusually, the owner picked
up our check for being good customers.




Brian

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Wayne Boatwright > wrote in
3.184:


>
> Yes, he could be, but I suppose it's partly my fault. I've been an
> enabler for too many years (16). He has had many issues resulting
> from a ginuinely traumatic childhood. It can really affect the rest
> of your life in one wayor another.
>
>> Does he have *real* adverse reactions to certain foods? Or is it just
>> a spoilt child thing?
>
> Absolutely none. It's all in his head. Oh, he wasn't spoiled, just
> never exposed or forced to taste or eat anything he didn't want to.
> As a child growing up, he subsisted on hot dogs, balogna, and peanut
> butter.


As a kid, we got bugger all food. And we were always hungry. Probably
one reason I hate seeing people waste food, I love cooking food and
giving it to all my friends.



>
> Actually, he's not a DQ at all. Apart from his food issues, he's
> really quite average/normal. He's a CPA, very bright, top of his
> class, etc. He's a very caring and giving person.


LOL!! I'll get him to do my tax, then shout him a hotdog with the works
:-)


>
>>>> Time to take a half soggy hotdog and start slapping him around the
>>>> head with it :-)
>>>
>>> I've been tempted!


50 flicks under the left nostril with a soggy hotdog!! LOL!!



>
> If the issues went beyond food, I'd probably do just that, but I don't
> mind the food issues that much. I've worked around them, and as long
> as I, too, have what I want, it's not really a big deal.


My CA wife was a supposed vego. She didn't want any meat in the house
(even tried to turn her 3 cats into vegos!! thy used to *love* me when
she went out!! ;-), and didn't want any meat at our wedding reception,
only vego dishes. I finally dragged it out of her that *she* was going
to be the only vego there. You think the reception was going to be only
vego dishes?? HELL NO!!

LOL!! Yeah, right........ have 60 skydiving buddies jump into a vego
feast!!




>
> You absolutely do! When I was in Sidney some years ago I tried quite
> a few different sausages and loved every one of them.
>
> The stores here offer very little variety in the way of sausages.
> However, within a few blocks of my office is a sausage shop that makes
> all their own products and they are wonderful. The background is
> mostly German and Eastern European. There is also an Italian shop
> that has a huge variety of Italian sausages and meats. Glad I found
> both of them!>


YUM!!!



>>
>> If the damn post didn't take so damn long... I'd send some over.
>
> Yep, I'm afraid they would be fit to eat by the time they arrived.
> :-(


You'd smell them before you'd see them!!

Last time I went to the Barossa Valley, I found some absolute crackers
there.

Chicken with spinach and pinenut sausages.

So now my sister (who lives down there) has taken to sending me up the
empty wrappers and photos of here chomping on the snags..... the
biatch!! :-)

I'll be down there next month :-)



>
>> (F*** me!! If some *** guy was to walk up to me and say, "Hey, I'd
>> like to shout you a 450g medium rare rib fillet on the bone because
>> I'd love to eat with someone who really appreciates their food.'.....
>> I'd shout the guy Shirley Temples all night!!.......... (or whatever
>> they drank!!)
>
> So would I!
>


I actually had to Google what's in a Shirley Temple. I just remember
seeing "Radar O'Rielly" on MASH ordering one at the bar everytime.

Lots of different varieties.


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Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

You will travel through the valley of rejection;
you will reside in the land of morning mists...and you will find your
home,
though it will not be where you left it.

Gloria P > wrote in
:

> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
>>
>> It's all in his head. Oh, he wasn't spoiled, just never
>> exposed or forced to taste or eat anything he didn't want to. As a
>> child growing up, he subsisted on hot dogs, balogna, and peanut
>> butter.
>>
>
>
> Hah! I had a younger cousin, the baby of his family of six,
> who existed on peanut butter and the occasional ear of fresh
> corn or chocolate cake until he was married (I don't know
> what has happened since.)
>
> When asked to try something different he would look at it
> briefly and say "My eyes don't like it."


You should have told him not to poke his eyes with his food!! :-)


LOL!! That just reminded me of an eating joke........

A guy walks in to a bar with his pet monkey. He orders a drink and while
he's drinking the monkey jumps all around the place. The monkey grabs
some olives off the bar and eats them. Then he grabs some sliced limes
and eats them. Then he jumps on to the pool table, grabs one of the
billiard balls, sticks it in his mouth, and to everyone's amazement
somehow swallows it whole. The bartender screams at the guy, "Did you
see what your monkey did?"

The guy says, "No, what?"

"He just ate the cue ball off my pool table - whole!"

"Yeah, that doesn't surprise me," replies the guy. "He eats everything
in sight. Sorry. I'll pay for everything."

The man finishes his drink, pays his bill, pays for the stuff the monkey
ate and leaves.

Two weeks later, he's in the bar again, and his pet monkey is with him.
He orders a drink and the monkey starts running around the bar again.
While the man is finishing his drink, the monkey finds a maraschino
cherry on the bar. He grabs it, sticks it in his butt, pulls it out and
eats it. The bartender is disgusted. "Did you see what your monkey did
now?" he asks.

"No, what?" replied the guy. "Well, he stuck a maraschino cherry in his
butt, pulled it out and ate it!" said the bartender.

"Yeah, that doesn't surprise me," replied the guy. He still eats
everything in sight but ever since he swallowed that cue ball, he
measures everything first."


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Brisbane
Australia

You will travel through the valley of rejection;
you will reside in the land of morning mists...and you will find your
home,
though it will not be where you left it.

Wayne Boatwright > wrote in
3.184:


>
> Oh, he has absolutely no allergies, just a psychological aversion. I
> look at it this way...he doesn't know what he's missing. :-)
>


I have a friend who gags every time she sees me eating a bleeding steak!!

Oh well!!


--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

You will travel through the valley of rejection;
you will reside in the land of morning mists...and you will find your home,
though it will not be where you left it.

Wayne Boatwright > wrote in
3.184:


>>
>> I'd rather live by myself than have to cater to someone like that.
>
> Maybe I'm making it sound worse than it is. It's not a hardship for
> me. Anything he likes to eat just takes a warming up or a quick
> grilling. What I make for myself takes a lot more effort.
>
> I understand and appreciate your position, but in our situation it
> really isn't a hardship.
>


No worries. So long as you're happy :-)




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Brisbane
Australia

You will travel through the valley of rejection;
you will reside in the land of morning mists...and you will find your home,
though it will not be where you left it.

Wayne Boatwright > wrote in
3.184:

> On Sat 03 May 2008 08:22:10a, PeterLucas told us...
>
>> Dave Smith > wrote in
news:481C8254.CD5089D5
>> @sympatico.ca:
>>
>>> PeterLucas wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I ate vegetarian Chinese that tasted like beef snot...... I lived.
>>>
>>> That was probably tofu :-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Silken tofu, to be exact.
>>
>> Along with slimey mushrooms.
>
> UGH! Now that's something i'd prefer not to eat. Call me picky! :-)
>


I never went back to *that* place either!!




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Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

You will travel through the valley of rejection;
you will reside in the land of morning mists...and you will find your
home,
though it will not be where you left it.

Wayne Boatwright > wrote in
3.184:


> Everyone has likes and dislikes. For example, I absolutely detest
> oysters and squid (unless it's fried). There's no way in hell anyone
> could make me eat them.
>


I'll have any you don't want!!! :-)

Birthday Breakfast last year.......

http://s199.photobucket.com/albums/a...akfast%2023rd%
20August/


http://tinyurl.com/68phg8



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Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

You will travel through the valley of rejection;
you will reside in the land of morning mists...and you will find your home,
though it will not be where you left it.

On Sat 03 May 2008 08:23:17p, PeterLucas told us...

> Wayne Boatwright > wrote in
> 3.184:
>
>
>> Everyone has likes and dislikes. For example, I absolutely detest
>> oysters and squid (unless it's fried). There's no way in hell anyone
>> could make me eat them.
>>
>
>
> I'll have any you don't want!!! :-)
>
> Birthday Breakfast last year.......
>
> http://s199.photobucket.com/albums/a...akfast%2023rd%
> 20August/
>
>
> http://tinyurl.com/68phg8
>
>
>

You can have all of them! But you can't have the clams. I want all of
them!

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On Sat 03 May 2008 08:13:07p, PeterLucas told us...

> Wayne Boatwright > wrote in
> 3.184:
>
>
>>
>> Yes, he could be, but I suppose it's partly my fault. I've been an
>> enabler for too many years (16). He has had many issues resulting
>> from a ginuinely traumatic childhood. It can really affect the rest
>> of your life in one wayor another.
>>
>>> Does he have *real* adverse reactions to certain foods? Or is it just
>>> a spoilt child thing?
>>
>> Absolutely none. It's all in his head. Oh, he wasn't spoiled, just
>> never exposed or forced to taste or eat anything he didn't want to.
>> As a child growing up, he subsisted on hot dogs, balogna, and peanut
>> butter.
>
>
> As a kid, we got bugger all food. And we were always hungry. Probably
> one reason I hate seeing people waste food, I love cooking food and
> giving it to all my friends.
>

I can really understand that.

>> Actually, he's not a DQ at all. Apart from his food issues, he's
>> really quite average/normal. He's a CPA, very bright, top of his
>> class, etc. He's a very caring and giving person.
>
>
> LOL!! I'll get him to do my tax, then shout him a hotdog with the works
>:-)

He'd likely do it, too.


>>>>> Time to take a half soggy hotdog and start slapping him around the
>>>>> head with it :-)
>>>>
>>>> I've been tempted!
>
>
> 50 flicks under the left nostril with a soggy hotdog!! LOL!!

hehehe

>> If the issues went beyond food, I'd probably do just that, but I don't
>> mind the food issues that much. I've worked around them, and as long
>> as I, too, have what I want, it's not really a big deal.
>
>
> My CA wife was a supposed vego. She didn't want any meat in the house
> (even tried to turn her 3 cats into vegos!! thy used to *love* me when
> she went out!! ;-), and didn't want any meat at our wedding reception,
> only vego dishes. I finally dragged it out of her that *she* was going
> to be the only vego there. You think the reception was going to be only
> vego dishes?? HELL NO!!
>
> LOL!! Yeah, right........ have 60 skydiving buddies jump into a vego
> feast!!

Yep, I can just picture that!

>> You absolutely do! When I was in Sidney some years ago I tried quite
>> a few different sausages and loved every one of them.
>>
>> The stores here offer very little variety in the way of sausages.
>> However, within a few blocks of my office is a sausage shop that makes
>> all their own products and they are wonderful. The background is
>> mostly German and Eastern European. There is also an Italian shop
>> that has a huge variety of Italian sausages and meats. Glad I found
>> both of them!>
>
>
> YUM!!!
>

Yeah, they're really delicious.

>>> If the damn post didn't take so damn long... I'd send some over.
>>
>> Yep, I'm afraid they would be fit to eat by the time they arrived.
>> :-(
>
>
> You'd smell them before you'd see them!!

Ugh!


> Last time I went to the Barossa Valley, I found some absolute crackers
> there.
>
> Chicken with spinach and pinenut sausages.

That sounds really good!

> So now my sister (who lives down there) has taken to sending me up the
> empty wrappers and photos of here chomping on the snags..... the
> biatch!! :-)

Mean, isn't she?

> I'll be down there next month :-)
>
>
>
>>
>>> (F*** me!! If some *** guy was to walk up to me and say, "Hey, I'd
>>> like to shout you a 450g medium rare rib fillet on the bone because
>>> I'd love to eat with someone who really appreciates their food.'.....
>>> I'd shout the guy Shirley Temples all night!!.......... (or whatever
>>> they drank!!)
>>
>> So would I!
>>
>
>
> I actually had to Google what's in a Shirley Temple. I just remember
> seeing "Radar O'Rielly" on MASH ordering one at the bar everytime.
>
> Lots of different varieties.
>
>

Ostensibly, the original drink was invented by one of the bartender's at
Chasen's restaurant in Beverly Hills, especially for Shirley Temple when
she went there to eat.

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On Sat 03 May 2008 08:16:39p, PeterLucas told us...

> Gloria P > wrote in
> :
>
>> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> It's all in his head. Oh, he wasn't spoiled, just never
>>> exposed or forced to taste or eat anything he didn't want to. As a
>>> child growing up, he subsisted on hot dogs, balogna, and peanut
>>> butter.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Hah! I had a younger cousin, the baby of his family of six, who
>> existed on peanut butter and the occasional ear of fresh corn or
>> chocolate cake until he was married (I don't know what has happened
>> since.)
>>
>> When asked to try something different he would look at it briefly and
>> say "My eyes don't like it."
>
>
> You should have told him not to poke his eyes with his food!! :-)
>
>
> LOL!! That just reminded me of an eating joke........
>
> A guy walks in to a bar with his pet monkey. He orders a drink and while
> he's drinking the monkey jumps all around the place. The monkey grabs
> some olives off the bar and eats them. Then he grabs some sliced limes
> and eats them. Then he jumps on to the pool table, grabs one of the
> billiard balls, sticks it in his mouth, and to everyone's amazement
> somehow swallows it whole. The bartender screams at the guy, "Did you
> see what your monkey did?"
>
> The guy says, "No, what?"
>
> "He just ate the cue ball off my pool table - whole!"
>
> "Yeah, that doesn't surprise me," replies the guy. "He eats everything
> in sight. Sorry. I'll pay for everything."
>
> The man finishes his drink, pays his bill, pays for the stuff the monkey
> ate and leaves.
>
> Two weeks later, he's in the bar again, and his pet monkey is with him.
> He orders a drink and the monkey starts running around the bar again.
> While the man is finishing his drink, the monkey finds a maraschino
> cherry on the bar. He grabs it, sticks it in his butt, pulls it out and
> eats it. The bartender is disgusted. "Did you see what your monkey did
> now?" he asks.
>
> "No, what?" replied the guy. "Well, he stuck a maraschino cherry in his
> butt, pulled it out and ate it!" said the bartender.
>
> "Yeah, that doesn't surprise me," replied the guy. He still eats
> everything in sight but ever since he swallowed that cue ball, he
> measures everything first."
>
>

Oh, that's funny!!!

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On Sat 03 May 2008 08:18:13p, PeterLucas told us...

> Wayne Boatwright > wrote in
> 3.184:
>
>
>>
>> Oh, he has absolutely no allergies, just a psychological aversion. I
>> look at it this way...he doesn't know what he's missing. :-)
>>
>
>
> I have a friend who gags every time she sees me eating a bleeding steak!!
>
> Oh well!!
>
>

David and I got into a discussion this afternoon about why he wouldn't even
try the corned beef. As I had posted earlier, it's because it's "pink"
(meaning it looks raw to him). After I explained the curing process for
making corned beef, he said he would try a bite of it tomorrow. I also
explained that corned beef doesn't have to be that color, and without one
of the chemicals used, it would be brown like any other piece of well
cooked beef. He might be turning a corner. :-)

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On Sat 03 May 2008 08:19:37p, PeterLucas told us...

> Wayne Boatwright > wrote in
> 3.184:
>
>
>>>
>>> I'd rather live by myself than have to cater to someone like that.
>>
>> Maybe I'm making it sound worse than it is. It's not a hardship for
>> me. Anything he likes to eat just takes a warming up or a quick
>> grilling. What I make for myself takes a lot more effort.
>>
>> I understand and appreciate your position, but in our situation it
>> really isn't a hardship.
>>
>
>
> No worries. So long as you're happy :-)

We are...


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Wayne Boatwright > wrote in
3.184:


>>>
>>> Absolutely none. It's all in his head. Oh, he wasn't spoiled, just
>>> never exposed or forced to taste or eat anything he didn't want to.
>>> As a child growing up, he subsisted on hot dogs, balogna, and peanut
>>> butter.
>>
>>
>> As a kid, we got bugger all food. And we were always hungry. Probably
>> one reason I hate seeing people waste food, I love cooking food and
>> giving it to all my friends.
>>
>
> I can really understand that.


Which is what I'm about to do this afternoon. It's a lovely sunny day, so
the gang is all getting together for a "session" :-)




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Brisbane
Australia

You will travel through the valley of rejection;
you will reside in the land of morning mists...and you will find your home,
though it will not be where you left it.

Wayne Boatwright > wrote in
3.184:


>> I have a friend who gags every time she sees me eating a bleeding
>> steak!!
>>
>> Oh well!!
>>
>>
>
> David and I got into a discussion this afternoon about why he wouldn't
> even try the corned beef. As I had posted earlier, it's because it's
> "pink" (meaning it looks raw to him). After I explained the curing
> process for making corned beef, he said he would try a bite of it
> tomorrow. I also explained that corned beef doesn't have to be that
> color, and without one of the chemicals used, it would be brown like
> any other piece of well cooked beef. He might be turning a corner.
> :-)
>


Well done!! A little explanation, and a couple slaps around the ear,
always work :-)

Do you do a white sauce with your corned beef? That used to be a
'staple' meal back in the old days. Corned beef, boiled veges and white
(usually onion) sauce.



--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

You will travel through the valley of rejection;
you will reside in the land of morning mists...and you will find your
home,
though it will not be where you left it.

On Sat 03 May 2008 10:35:34p, PeterLucas told us...

> Wayne Boatwright > wrote in
> 3.184:
>
>
>>>>
>>>> Absolutely none. It's all in his head. Oh, he wasn't spoiled, just
>>>> never exposed or forced to taste or eat anything he didn't want to.
>>>> As a child growing up, he subsisted on hot dogs, balogna, and peanut
>>>> butter.
>>>
>>>
>>> As a kid, we got bugger all food. And we were always hungry. Probably
>>> one reason I hate seeing people waste food, I love cooking food and
>>> giving it to all my friends.
>>>
>>
>> I can really understand that.
>
>
> Which is what I'm about to do this afternoon. It's a lovely sunny day, so
> the gang is all getting together for a "session" :-)

We're doing that tomorrow, over a grill full of ribs and God knows what
everyone else will make/do (boneless ones for David). haha


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On Sat 03 May 2008 10:37:56p, PeterLucas told us...

> Wayne Boatwright > wrote in
> 3.184:
>
>
>>> I have a friend who gags every time she sees me eating a bleeding
>>> steak!!
>>>
>>> Oh well!!
>>>
>>>
>>
>> David and I got into a discussion this afternoon about why he wouldn't
>> even try the corned beef. As I had posted earlier, it's because it's
>> "pink" (meaning it looks raw to him). After I explained the curing
>> process for making corned beef, he said he would try a bite of it
>> tomorrow. I also explained that corned beef doesn't have to be that
>> color, and without one of the chemicals used, it would be brown like
>> any other piece of well cooked beef. He might be turning a corner.
>> :-)
>>
>
>
> Well done!! A little explanation, and a couple slaps around the ear,
> always work :-)
>
> Do you do a white sauce with your corned beef? That used to be a
> 'staple' meal back in the old days. Corned beef, boiled veges and white
> (usually onion) sauce.

No, actually never heard of that, Peter. Here it's usually horseradish or
creamy horseradish sauce, and strong grainy mustards.

Got a recipe?


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On Sun, 04 May 2008 04:42:54 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>On Sat 03 May 2008 08:19:37p, PeterLucas told us...
>
>> Wayne Boatwright > wrote in
>> 3.184:
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>> I'd rather live by myself than have to cater to someone like that.
>>>
>>> Maybe I'm making it sound worse than it is. It's not a hardship for
>>> me. Anything he likes to eat just takes a warming up or a quick
>>> grilling. What I make for myself takes a lot more effort.
>>>
>>> I understand and appreciate your position, but in our situation it
>>> really isn't a hardship.
>>>
>>
>>
>> No worries. So long as you're happy :-)
>
>We are...

you realize, don't you, that you're making the rest of us look bad?

your pal,
blake

On Sat, 3 May 2008 18:07:39 +0100, Janet Baraclough
> wrote:

>The message >
>from "Nancy Young" > contains these words:
>
>> People like that are good for one thing, if people say I'm picky
>> because I don't want cherries on my pork chop, I can say Well,
>> I do eat vegetables and corned beef (even if it is pink). You want
>> picky, ask Wayne about David.
>
> BDDTGTTS. From my experience, it's an attention seeking device
>indulged by co-dependents. One party is playing the hand-fed baby and
>the other is playing the indulgent parent . Both are playing at "proof
>of love".
>
> The real proof of love, is to cut the apron strings and meet the
>other person on equal terms, instead of child/parent, boss/servant,
>needer/provider.
>
> Janet

i tried that, but my girlfriend wouldn't let me.

your pal,
blake

On Sat, 03 May 2008 20:20:40 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>On Sat 03 May 2008 10:07:39a, Janet Baraclough told us...
>
>> The message >
>> from "Nancy Young" > contains these words:
>>
>>> People like that are good for one thing, if people say I'm picky
>>> because I don't want cherries on my pork chop, I can say Well,
>>> I do eat vegetables and corned beef (even if it is pink). You want
>>> picky, ask Wayne about David.
>>
>> BDDTGTTS. From my experience, it's an attention seeking device
>> indulged by co-dependents. One party is playing the hand-fed baby and
>> the other is playing the indulgent parent . Both are playing at "proof
>> of love".
>>
>> The real proof of love, is to cut the apron strings and meet the
>> other person on equal terms, instead of child/parent, boss/servant,
>> needer/provider.
>>
>> Janet
>
>That may well be true in many instances, but we are on par with each other
>in every other aspect of our lives. Food issues quickly bacame non-issues
>in our relationship, and quite honestly, it doesn't matter to me at all.

c'mon y'all. let the man bitch, for chrissake.

your pal,
blake

On Sat, 03 May 2008 11:26:51 -0600, Gloria P >
wrote:

>Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
>>
>> Okay, here goes, but it's not a particularly inspiring list...
>>
>> Canned Green Peas or Peas and Carrots, buttered or in a white sauce
>> Fresh Carrots, sliced and cooked soft
>> Potatoes in almost any form, mashed, cubed and parslied, creamed, fried, au
>> gratin, scalloped
>> White rice with brown gravy
>> Canned Corn or Corn on the Cob
>> Almost any for of beef, as long as there is no bone or visible fat
>> Boneless, skinless chicken breast, flattened and grilled
>> Roast turkey, prime white meat slices only
>> Boneless center cut pork chops
>> Hot dogs, boiled
>> Burger, burgers, burgers, fried or grilled
>> No salads of any type, vegetable or fruit
>> No bits or pieces of tomato, onion, or garlic in anything
>> Canned peaches and pears
>> Desserts? Chocolate only, and no nuts
>>
>> Very sad, isn't it?
>>
>
>Pitiful. Just imagine what he is missing, both flavor and
>nutrition-wise. I can't understand how an adult can be so anal and
>narrow-minded. SOunds like our 6 yr. old grandson, but there's hope
>for him since we can bribe him into tasting things and he often decides
>"Hey, that's GOOD!"
>
>gloria p

let them eat rice cake.

your pal,
marie

On Sat, 03 May 2008 18:22:19 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>On Sat 03 May 2008 10:26:51a, Gloria P told us...
>
>> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Okay, here goes, but it's not a particularly inspiring list...
>>>
>>> Canned Green Peas or Peas and Carrots, buttered or in a white sauce
>>> Fresh Carrots, sliced and cooked soft
>>> Potatoes in almost any form, mashed, cubed and parslied, creamed,
>>> fried, au gratin, scalloped
>>> White rice with brown gravy
>>> Canned Corn or Corn on the Cob
>>> Almost any for of beef, as long as there is no bone or visible fat
>>> Boneless, skinless chicken breast, flattened and grilled
>>> Roast turkey, prime white meat slices only
>>> Boneless center cut pork chops
>>> Hot dogs, boiled
>>> Burger, burgers, burgers, fried or grilled
>>> No salads of any type, vegetable or fruit
>>> No bits or pieces of tomato, onion, or garlic in anything
>>> Canned peaches and pears
>>> Desserts? Chocolate only, and no nuts
>>>
>>> Very sad, isn't it?
>>>
>>
>> Pitiful. Just imagine what he is missing, both flavor and
>> nutrition-wise. I can't understand how an adult can be so anal and
>> narrow-minded. SOunds like our 6 yr. old grandson, but there's hope
>> for him since we can bribe him into tasting things and he often decides
>> "Hey, that's GOOD!"
>>
>> gloria p
>>
>
>Yes, pitiful. If his upbringing had been better, it may not have ended up
>like this.

at least he doesn't have a maniacal appetite for big macs.

your pal,
bill

"blake murphy" > wrote

> On Sat, 03 May 2008 20:20:40 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> > wrote:

>>> from "Nancy Young" > contains these words:
>>>
>>>> People like that are good for one thing, if people say I'm picky
>>>> because I don't want cherries on my pork chop, I can say Well,
>>>> I do eat vegetables and corned beef (even if it is pink). You want
>>>> picky, ask Wayne about David.

>>That may well be true in many instances, but we are on par with each other
>>in every other aspect of our lives. Food issues quickly bacame non-issues
>>in our relationship, and quite honestly, it doesn't matter to me at all.
>
> c'mon y'all. let the man bitch, for chrissake.

I was just kidding around, that there are much pickier people than I am.
Most of us bitch about someone in our lives once in a while. It's all in
fun, we don't actually expect advice to fix it.

nancy

Janet Baraclough > wrote in
:


>> >
>> > What you're defending, is your powerful role as nurturer versus
>> > his
>> > role as the wayward child who spits out food.
>> >
>> > Janet
>
>> Not really, Janet. You don't actually know us. When I cook a meal
>> we usually share whatever meat I choose to make unless it's something
>> he clearly doesn't like, as well as at least one of the vegetables
>> that we both like. I willl make a second vegetable for each of us.
>> It's no big deal.
>
> Ah. Not quite "I cook 2 different meals most nights".




I cook one meal.


You don't like it.... go hungry.



>
>> I don't cater to him as much as I
>> may have implied.
>
> I see.


I don't.


Seems Wayne is doing most/all of the cooking.




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Brisbane
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You will travel through the valley of rejection;
you will reside in the land of morning mists...and you will find your
home,
though it will not be where you left it.

On Sun 04 May 2008 09:28:12a, PeterLucas told us...

> Janet Baraclough > wrote in
> :
>
>
>>> >
>>> > What you're defending, is your powerful role as nurturer versus
>>> > his
>>> > role as the wayward child who spits out food.
>>> >
>>> > Janet
>>
>>> Not really, Janet. You don't actually know us. When I cook a meal
>>> we usually share whatever meat I choose to make unless it's something
>>> he clearly doesn't like, as well as at least one of the vegetables
>>> that we both like. I willl make a second vegetable for each of us.
>>> It's no big deal.
>>
>> Ah. Not quite "I cook 2 different meals most nights".
>
>
>
>
> I cook one meal.
>
>
> You don't like it.... go hungry.
>
>
>
>>
>>> I don't cater to him as much as I may have implied.
>>
>> I see.
>
>
> I don't.
>
>
> Seems Wayne is doing most/all of the cooking.

I have always done all of the cooking. I prefer it that way.

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Wayne Boatwright wrote:

> I have always done all of the cooking. I prefer it that way.

I do ours too, and I also prefer it that way)

On Sun 04 May 2008 06:07:48a, blake murphy told us...

> On Sun, 04 May 2008 04:42:54 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> > wrote:
>
>>On Sat 03 May 2008 08:19:37p, PeterLucas told us...
>>
>>> Wayne Boatwright > wrote in
>>> 3.184:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd rather live by myself than have to cater to someone like that.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe I'm making it sound worse than it is. It's not a hardship for
>>>> me. Anything he likes to eat just takes a warming up or a quick
>>>> grilling. What I make for myself takes a lot more effort.
>>>>
>>>> I understand and appreciate your position, but in our situation it
>>>> really isn't a hardship.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> No worries. So long as you're happy :-)
>>
>>We are...
>
> you realize, don't you, that you're making the rest of us look bad?
>
> your pal,
> blake
>
>

LOL!

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