Hello All!

I've mentioned that I try store brands from time to time if it
seems probable they can replace name-brand items. Today, I
bought a can of Giant Stores "Vegetable Juice", an obvious take
off on V-8. It wasn't bad at all even if it seemed lower in
celery than the original. With a shot of Worcestershire sauce,
as I usually drink it, there seemed little difference.

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"James Silverton" > wrote:
>
> I've mentioned that I try store brands from time to time if it
> seems probable they can replace name-brand items. Today, I
> bought a can of Giant Stores "Vegetable Juice", an obvious take
> off on V-8. It wasn't bad at all even if it seemed lower in
> celery than the original. With a shot of Worcestershire sauce,
> as I usually drink it, there seemed little difference.

Very likely IS V-8... canned in a V-8 facility but with a different
label... that it *seemed* to taste a little different is very likely
psychological, just like people seem to find Walmart toothpaste tastes
a little different from Colgate, yet it's the exact same product out
of the same vat, just different packaging.

V-8 is essentially tomato juice but with some flavoring added. All
tomato juice is made from tomato paste (tomato concentrate), not
shipping all that water saves a lot of money... you can save a lot of
money too by making your own.... how difficult is it to dump a can of
tomato paste into a quart container, add water, and shake... no more
difficult than preparing frozen orange juice. your tomato juice will
cost you less than half... you can make V-8 by adding some vegetable
soup boullion and a pinch of celery salt. Squeeze in a wedge of lime,
add ice, worcestershire, hot sauce, and a good glug of vodka and you
won't be so fussy about the exact recipe.

"Michael "Dog3"" > wrote in message
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>
>> Hello All!
>>
>> I've mentioned that I try store brands from time to time if it
>> seems probable they can replace name-brand items. Today, I
>> bought a can of Giant Stores "Vegetable Juice", an obvious take
>> off on V-8. It wasn't bad at all even if it seemed lower in
>> celery than the original. With a shot of Worcestershire sauce,
>> as I usually drink it, there seemed little difference.
>
> I didn't see the original thread but I buy store brands from time to time
> as well. I like the Shop 'n Save jarred tomato juice better than most of
> the name brands. I also buy their brand of canned tomatoes and tomato
> sauce. I can't tell the dif and they are quite a bit cheaper. I keep a
> lot
> of different types of the tomatoes on hand all the time. I buy other
> things but can't recall what they are right this second.
>
> Michael
>
>
Many times a store brand comes from the same facility as the name brand
does. Sometimes one store brand and another come from the same facility.

On Tue 13 May 2008 10:59:22a, Michael "Dog3" told us...

> "James Silverton" > dropped this
> news:gkkWj.21$LL.10@trnddc04: in rec.food.cooking
>
>> Hello All!
>>
>> I've mentioned that I try store brands from time to time if it
>> seems probable they can replace name-brand items. Today, I
>> bought a can of Giant Stores "Vegetable Juice", an obvious take
>> off on V-8. It wasn't bad at all even if it seemed lower in
>> celery than the original. With a shot of Worcestershire sauce, as I
>> usually drink it, there seemed little difference.
>
> I didn't see the original thread but I buy store brands from time to
> time as well. I like the Shop 'n Save jarred tomato juice better than
> most of the name brands. I also buy their brand of canned tomatoes and
> tomato sauce. I can't tell the dif and they are quite a bit cheaper. I
> keep a lot of different types of the tomatoes on hand all the time. I
> buy other things but can't recall what they are right this second.
>
> Michael
>
>
>

I buy a lot of store brands, but I also buy a lot of name brands, depending
on what the item is. I'm fussy about V-8, though. For me, at least,
nothing else quite compares. I also like it with a splash of
Worcestershire sauce.

I've learned which store brands are at least as good if not better than the
name brand items.

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Wayne Boatwright wrote:

> On Tue 13 May 2008 10:59:22a, Michael "Dog3" told us...
>
>> "James Silverton" > dropped this
>> news:gkkWj.21$LL.10@trnddc04: in rec.food.cooking
>>
>>> Hello All!
>>>
>>> I've mentioned that I try store brands from time to time if it
>>> seems probable they can replace name-brand items. Today, I
>>> bought a can of Giant Stores "Vegetable Juice", an obvious take
>>> off on V-8. It wasn't bad at all even if it seemed lower in
>>> celery than the original. With a shot of Worcestershire sauce, as I
>>> usually drink it, there seemed little difference.
>>
>> I didn't see the original thread but I buy store brands from time to
>> time as well. I like the Shop 'n Save jarred tomato juice better than
>> most of the name brands. I also buy their brand of canned tomatoes and
>> tomato sauce. I can't tell the dif and they are quite a bit cheaper. I
>> keep a lot of different types of the tomatoes on hand all the time. I
>> buy other things but can't recall what they are right this second.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>
>>
>
> I buy a lot of store brands, but I also buy a lot of name brands, depending
> on what the item is. I'm fussy about V-8, though. For me, at least,
> nothing else quite compares. I also like it with a splash of
> Worcestershire sauce.

You're on the path to a bloody mary variant, there, Wayne...


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Wayne Boatwright wrote:

> On Tue 13 May 2008 10:59:22a, Michael "Dog3" told us...
>
>> "James Silverton" > dropped this
>> news:gkkWj.21$LL.10@trnddc04: in rec.food.cooking
>>
>>> Hello All!
>>>
>>> I've mentioned that I try store brands from time to time if it
>>> seems probable they can replace name-brand items. Today, I
>>> bought a can of Giant Stores "Vegetable Juice", an obvious take
>>> off on V-8. It wasn't bad at all even if it seemed lower in
>>> celery than the original. With a shot of Worcestershire sauce, as I
>>> usually drink it, there seemed little difference.
>>
>> I didn't see the original thread but I buy store brands from time to
>> time as well. I like the Shop 'n Save jarred tomato juice better than
>> most of the name brands. I also buy their brand of canned tomatoes and
>> tomato sauce. I can't tell the dif and they are quite a bit cheaper. I
>> keep a lot of different types of the tomatoes on hand all the time. I
>> buy other things but can't recall what they are right this second.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>
>>
>
> I buy a lot of store brands, but I also buy a lot of name brands, depending
> on what the item is. I'm fussy about V-8, though. For me, at least,
> nothing else quite compares. I also like it with a splash of
> Worcestershire sauce.

Afterthought to first reply: TJ's has a good one, albeit it's a surprise
at first because it's not as salty.


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James Silverton wrote:
> Hello All!
>
> I've mentioned that I try store brands from time to time if it
> seems probable they can replace name-brand items. Today, I
> bought a can of Giant Stores "Vegetable Juice", an obvious take
> off on V-8. It wasn't bad at all even if it seemed lower in
> celery than the original. With a shot of Worcestershire sauce,
> as I usually drink it, there seemed little difference.

I bought a bottle of Walgreens "Vegetable Juice" once rather than V-8 to use
in vegetable soup. I'm glad I tasted it before I used it in the soup; it
tasted *nothing* like V-8 or even plain tomato juice. I don't know what
that weird taste was but I didn't like it one bit. It didn't even make a
decent bloody mary so I poured it out.

Having said that, I buy a lot of store brands. That's just one I won't
repeat

Jill

I buy store brand -- usually Aldi, Kroger, or Wal-Mart -- of just
about every canned, boxed, or frozen item we eat. It's easier to list
what we don't buy the store brand of:

Duke's Mayonnaise
Heinz ketchup
Tabasco sauce
Pace salsa

Somehow only condiments spring to mind. I know I'm forgetting
something.

My husband is a cold cereal fiend and he is happy with store brand or
Malt-O-Meal cereals.

Tara

On Tue, 13 May 2008 19:06:07 -0400, "Nancy Young" >
wrote:

>"Tara" > wrote
>
>> Last year's peanut butter recall was interesting. Peter Pan and
>> Walmart brand peanut were recalled. Now we know who makes Walmart
>> brand peanut butter.
>
>Along those lines, the pet food recall was an eye opener.

Malt-O-Meal cereal and a big list of store brand cereals were recently
recalled. It is interesting to discover where store brands are
manufactured.

Tara

On Tue 13 May 2008 02:15:19p, Blinky the Shark told us...

> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
>> On Tue 13 May 2008 10:59:22a, Michael "Dog3" told us...
>>
>>> "James Silverton" > dropped this
>>> news:gkkWj.21$LL.10@trnddc04: in rec.food.cooking
>>>
>>>> Hello All!
>>>>
>>>> I've mentioned that I try store brands from time to time if it
>>>> seems probable they can replace name-brand items. Today, I
>>>> bought a can of Giant Stores "Vegetable Juice", an obvious take
>>>> off on V-8. It wasn't bad at all even if it seemed lower in
>>>> celery than the original. With a shot of Worcestershire sauce, as I
>>>> usually drink it, there seemed little difference.
>>>
>>> I didn't see the original thread but I buy store brands from time to
>>> time as well. I like the Shop 'n Save jarred tomato juice better than
>>> most of the name brands. I also buy their brand of canned tomatoes
>>> and tomato sauce. I can't tell the dif and they are quite a bit
>>> cheaper. I keep a lot of different types of the tomatoes on hand all
>>> the time. I buy other things but can't recall what they are right
>>> this second.
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I buy a lot of store brands, but I also buy a lot of name brands,
>> depending on what the item is. I'm fussy about V-8, though. For me,
>> at least, nothing else quite compares. I also like it with a splash of
>> Worcestershire sauce.
>
> You're on the path to a bloody mary variant, there, Wayne...
>
>

Yep, that along with a bit of horseradish and a dash of hot sauce. :-)

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"James Silverton" > wrote in message
news:gkkWj.21$LL.10@trnddc04...
> Hello All!
>
> I've mentioned that I try store brands from time to time if it seems
> probable they can replace name-brand items. Today, I bought a can of Giant
> Stores "Vegetable Juice", an obvious take off on V-8. It wasn't bad at all
> even if it seemed lower in celery than the original. With a shot of
> Worcestershire sauce, as I usually drink it, there seemed little
> difference.

I buy many store brand items. I've tried different ones from different
stores and have learned which are reliable and which aren't. (I've found
that a lot of store brands are actually better than name brands.) Don't need
to use manufacturer coupons to save that way.

Mary

Tara wrote on Tue, 13 May 2008 19:41:18 -0400:

> Duke's Mayonnaise
> Heinz ketchup
> Tabasco sauce
> Pace salsa

> Somehow only condiments spring to mind. I know I'm forgetting
> something.

> My husband is a cold cereal fiend and he is happy with store
> brand or Malt-O-Meal cereals.

It's a personal taste thing of course but I have sometimes found
store brands that are so indistinguishable that I suspect they
are made by the original manufacturer as others have suggested.
Some are a little different but not worse. Raisin Bran and
Richfood Bran Flakes with raisins, for example.

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E-mail, with obvious alterations:
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On Wed 14 May 2008 04:48:38a, Michael "Dog3" told us...

> Wayne Boatwright > dropped this
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> rec.food.cooking
>
>> On Tue 13 May 2008 02:15:19p, Blinky the Shark told us...
>>
>>> You're on the path to a bloody mary variant, there, Wayne...
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Yep, that along with a bit of horseradish and a dash of hot sauce. :-)
>
> Since we're on the subject. Which food items will you settle for
> nothing less than a name brand or a private label brand. One of mine is
> hot sauces. Hot sauce, jalapeno sauce, habanero sauce etc.
> Worcestershire is another. I will only buy private label on some of
> these and will not settle for less than a name brand. I haven't found a
> store brand that even comes close to name brand of private label.
>
> Michael

Just to name a few, Worcestershire Sauce, V-8 Juice, Heinz Catsup, Heinz
Chili Sauce, Fry's/Kroger's Private Select Pickles, Ghirardelli Ground
Chocolate. I'm sure there are many specific brands that I wouldn't buy a
substitute for.

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Wayne wrote on Wed, 14 May 2008 12:56:47 GMT:

>> Wayne Boatwright > dropped
>> this 3.184:
>> in rec.food.cooking
>>
>>> On Tue 13 May 2008 02:15:19p, Blinky the Shark told us...
>>>
>>>> You're on the path to a bloody mary variant, there,
>>>> Wayne...
>>>>
>>> Yep, that along with a bit of horseradish and a dash of hot
>>> sauce. :-)
>>
>> Since we're on the subject. Which food items will you settle
>> for nothing less than a name brand or a private label brand.
>> One of mine is hot sauces. Hot sauce, jalapeno sauce,
>> habanero sauce etc. Worcestershire is another. I will only
>> buy private label on some of these and will not settle for
>> less than a name brand. I haven't found a store brand that
>> even comes close to name brand of private label.
>>
>> Michael

> Just to name a few, Worcestershire Sauce, V-8 Juice, Heinz
> Catsup, Heinz Chili Sauce, Fry's/Kroger's Private Select
> Pickles, Ghirardelli Ground Chocolate. I'm sure there are
> many specific brands that I wouldn't buy a substitute for.

I suppose you mean Lea and Perrin's Worcestershire Sauce and, if
so, I agree but I don't on Heinz Ketchup. There are several
store brands that seems duplicates and Del Monte's used to be
good too. I don't think I've seen it recently. I also agree with
others that Tabasco brand pepper sauce is definitely the hottest
and best.
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Wayne Boatwright wrote:

>
> > Since we're on the subject. Which food items will you settle for
> > nothing less than a name brand or a private label brand. One of mine is
> > hot sauces. Hot sauce, jalapeno sauce, habanero sauce etc.
> > Worcestershire is another. I will only buy private label on some of
> > these and will not settle for less than a name brand. I haven't found a
> > store brand that even comes close to name brand of private label.
> >
> > Michael
>
> Just to name a few, Worcestershire Sauce, V-8 Juice, Heinz Catsup, Heinz
> Chili Sauce, Fry's/Kroger's Private Select Pickles, Ghirardelli Ground
> Chocolate. I'm sure there are many specific brands that I wouldn't buy a
> substitute for.

I didn't think there was a substitute for Frank's Hot Sauce until I tried the
No Name stuff they sell in the local Zehr's stores. It is virtually identical
to Franks, and it is about 1/4 the price of Franks..


>
>
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James Silverton wrote:
> Tara wrote on Tue, 13 May 2008 19:41:18 -0400:
>
>> My husband is a cold cereal fiend and he is happy with store
>> brand or Malt-O-Meal cereals.
>
> It's a personal taste thing of course but I have sometimes found
> store brands that are so indistinguishable that I suspect they
> are made by the original manufacturer as others have suggested.
> Some are a little different but not worse. Raisin Bran and
> Richfood Bran Flakes with raisins, for example.

You don't really think the stores have a manufacturing plant set up
someplace, do you? Of course you don't. They're using, for lack of a
better term, runoff from the major brands. Packaged under different labels.
Quality may vary because the store brand *may* (note I said may) get the
dregs off the line or a production overrun or something like that. But
AFAIK stores like Kroger don't have plants set up to can (for example) green
beans.

Jill

On Wed 14 May 2008 06:58:03a, James Silverton told us...

> Wayne wrote on Wed, 14 May 2008 12:56:47 GMT:
>
>>> Wayne Boatwright > dropped
>>> this 3.184:
>>> in rec.food.cooking
>>>
>>>> On Tue 13 May 2008 02:15:19p, Blinky the Shark told us...
>>>>
>>>>> You're on the path to a bloody mary variant, there,
>>>>> Wayne...
>>>>>
>>>> Yep, that along with a bit of horseradish and a dash of hot sauce.
>>>> :-)
>>>
>>> Since we're on the subject. Which food items will you settle
>>> for nothing less than a name brand or a private label brand.
>>> One of mine is hot sauces. Hot sauce, jalapeno sauce, habanero sauce
>>> etc. Worcestershire is another. I will only buy private label on some
>>> of these and will not settle for less than a name brand. I haven't
>>> found a store brand that even comes close to name brand of private
>>> label.
>>>
>>> Michael
>
>> Just to name a few, Worcestershire Sauce, V-8 Juice, Heinz
>> Catsup, Heinz Chili Sauce, Fry's/Kroger's Private Select
>> Pickles, Ghirardelli Ground Chocolate. I'm sure there are many
>> specific brands that I wouldn't buy a substitute for.
>
> I suppose you mean Lea and Perrin's Worcestershire Sauce and, if
> so, I agree but I don't on Heinz Ketchup. There are several
> store brands that seems duplicates and Del Monte's used to be
> good too. I don't think I've seen it recently. I also agree with
> others that Tabasco brand pepper sauce is definitely the hottest
> and best.

Yes, I meant to say Lea and Perrin's. I also agree about Tabasco brand hot
pepper sauce, unless I'm purchsing specialty hot sauces.

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jmcquown wrote on Wed, 14 May 2008 10:54:39 -0500:

> James Silverton wrote:
>> Tara wrote on Tue, 13 May 2008 19:41:18 -0400:
>>
>>> My husband is a cold cereal fiend and he is happy with store
>>> brand or Malt-O-Meal cereals.
>>
>> It's a personal taste thing of course but I have sometimes
>> found store brands that are so indistinguishable that I
>> suspect they are made by the original manufacturer as others
>> have suggested. Some are a little different but not worse.
>> Raisin Bran and Richfood Bran Flakes with raisins, for
>> example.

> You don't really think the stores have a manufacturing plant
> set up someplace, do you? Of course you don't. They're
> using, for lack of a better term, runoff from the major
> brands. Packaged under different labels. Quality may vary
> because the store brand *may* (note I said may) get the dregs
> off the line or a production overrun or something like that.
> But AFAIK stores like Kroger don't have plants set up to can
> (for example) green beans.


Of course I don't think major store chains have their own plants
but I don't actually know how they produce store brands. I tend
to assume there must be small plants making things under
contract just as there are for other things, even chemicals.

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On Wed, 14 May 2008 14:36:26 GMT, "Michael \"Dog3\""
> wrote:

>"James Silverton" > dropped this
>news:LdCWj.318$LL.168@trnddc04: in rec.food.cooking
>
>>
>> I suppose you mean Lea and Perrin's Worcestershire Sauce and, if
>> so, I agree but I don't on Heinz Ketchup. There are several
>> store brands that seems duplicates and Del Monte's used to be
>> good too. I don't think I've seen it recently. I also agree with
>> others that Tabasco brand pepper sauce is definitely the hottest
>> and best.
>
>I use Lea and Perrin's. I've got Tabasco on hand all the time but I also
>buy a lot of different hot sauces online. I love hot sauces. Steven will
>only eat Heinz ketchup so that's what we buy. I'm not a ketchup fan so I
>don't care what brand it is. Mustard is an entirely different story. I'm
>****y about my mustards.
>
>Michael

so what mustards do you like, michael? or are they local brands?

i do use poupon country-style for dijon, but nance's can be good for
other types. also inglehoffer sweet honey mustard in the cute little
bulbous jars, which i always save and re-use. their other types i've
tried are good, too. no french's yellow.

(i'll throw in a vote here for lea & perrins worcestershire, too.
some of the others are pretty dreadful. but has anyone tried the
bulldog brand you sometimes see at asian markets?)

your pal,
blake

On Wed 14 May 2008 10:40:13a, blake murphy told us...

> On Wed, 14 May 2008 14:36:26 GMT, "Michael \"Dog3\""
> > wrote:
>
>>"James Silverton" > dropped this
>>news:LdCWj.318$LL.168@trnddc04: in rec.food.cooking
>>
>>>
>>> I suppose you mean Lea and Perrin's Worcestershire Sauce and, if
>>> so, I agree but I don't on Heinz Ketchup. There are several
>>> store brands that seems duplicates and Del Monte's used to be
>>> good too. I don't think I've seen it recently. I also agree with
>>> others that Tabasco brand pepper sauce is definitely the hottest and
>>> best.
>>
>>I use Lea and Perrin's. I've got Tabasco on hand all the time but I also
>>buy a lot of different hot sauces online. I love hot sauces. Steven
will
>>only eat Heinz ketchup so that's what we buy. I'm not a ketchup fan so I
>>don't care what brand it is. Mustard is an entirely different story.
I'm
>>****y about my mustards.
>>
>>Michael
>
> so what mustards do you like, michael? or are they local brands?
>
> i do use poupon country-style for dijon, but nance's can be good for
> other types. also inglehoffer sweet honey mustard in the cute little
> bulbous jars, which i always save and re-use. their other types i've
> tried are good, too. no french's yellow.

I like several of the Inglehoffer mustards, including the honey mustard.
The make a larger jar, too, and I buy their whole grain mustard in that
size.

> (i'll throw in a vote here for lea & perrins worcestershire, too.
> some of the others are pretty dreadful. but has anyone tried the
> bulldog brand you sometimes see at asian markets?)
>
> your pal,
> blake
>
>
>
>



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"Michael "Dog3"" > wrote in message
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> "James Silverton" > dropped this
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>
>>
>> I suppose you mean Lea and Perrin's Worcestershire Sauce and, if
>> so, I agree but I don't on Heinz Ketchup. There are several
>> store brands that seems duplicates and Del Monte's used to be
>> good too. I don't think I've seen it recently. I also agree with
>> others that Tabasco brand pepper sauce is definitely the hottest
>> and best.
>
> I use Lea and Perrin's. I've got Tabasco on hand all the time but I also
> buy a lot of different hot sauces online. I love hot sauces. Steven will
> only eat Heinz ketchup so that's what we buy. I'm not a ketchup fan so I
> don't care what brand it is. Mustard is an entirely different story. I'm
> ****y about my mustards.
>
> Michael
>
>
Do you know of this place? I just ordered stuff from them.

http://www.mustardmuseum.com/exhibits/medicine/

On May 13, 12:57*pm, Sheldon > wrote:
> "James Silverton" > wrote:
>
> > I've mentioned that I try store brands from time to time if it
> > seems probable they can replace name-brand items. Today, I
> > bought a can of Giant Stores "Vegetable Juice", an obvious take
> > off on V-8. It wasn't bad at all even if it seemed lower in
> > celery than the original. With a shot of Worcestershire sauce,
> > as I usually drink it, there seemed little difference.
>
> Very likely IS V-8... canned in a V-8 facility but with a different
> label... that it *seemed* to taste a little different is very likely
> psychological, just like people seem to find Walmart toothpaste tastes
> a little different from Colgate, yet it's the exact same product out
> of the same vat, just different packaging.

That is usually the case.
>
> V-8 is essentially tomato juice but with some
> flavoring added. *

It also has pureed vegetables in it.

> All tomato juice is made from tomato paste
> (tomato concentrate), not shipping all that
> water saves a lot of money

The canned tomato juice I buy at Wal Mart is "not from concentrate."
I'm not crazy about the taste of canned/bottled tomato juice, but it
makes my body feel good. I drink it when I'm rather thirsty, and
nearly always drink the whole 64oz can within an hour.

--Bryan

On May 13, 12:59*pm, "Michael \"Dog3\"" > wrote:
> "James Silverton" > dropped thisnews:gkkWj.21$LL.10@trnddc04:in rec.food.cooking
>
> > Hello All!
>
> > I've mentioned that I try store brands from time to time if it
> > seems probable they can replace name-brand items. Today, I
> > bought a can of Giant Stores "Vegetable Juice", an obvious take
> > off on V-8. It wasn't bad at all even if it seemed lower in
> > celery than the original. With a shot of Worcestershire sauce,
> > as I usually drink it, there seemed little difference.
>
> I didn't see the original thread but I buy store brands from time to time
> as well. *I like the Shop 'n Save jarred tomato juice better than most of
> the name brands.

As I just posted (above), try the Wal Mart Great Value tomato juice.
Not from concentrate.
>
> Michael

--Bryan

"MareCat" wrote:
>
> I buy many store brand items. I've tried different ones from
> different stores and have learned which are reliable and which
> aren't. (I've found that a lot of store brands are actually better
> than name brands).

Store brands are neither better or worse, they are *exactly* the same
as the national brands, they come from same vat. It's the *generic*
products that are lower quality but with foods they contain exactly
the same nutrition. Non food items, say laundry detergent, bar soap,
dishwashing liquid, etc. is the same as the national brands but will
have different scent and colorant... generic cleaning products are the
same but will be diluted... those sold at the Dollar stores are
greatly diluted.

The trick is to find which store brand is which national brand, and
this changes all the time. The store brand ketchup can be Heinz one
year and Del Monte the next. And another thing to keep in mind is
that with many products the national brands supply each other, that
bottle of Heinz ketchup could easily be Del Monte, and vice versa.

I eat a lot of canned sliced beets, other than beans it's one of the
few canned vegtables I buy, I buy whichever costs less. I find
absolutely no difference between the store barnd and say Del Monte, or
Libby's, or White Rose, or any national brand. But the generic canned
beets are nasty in that they still have much of the skin and the
slices are not consistant, sometimes they're just hacked up chunks...
they're the same beets but they're not pretty... of course to some no
beets are pretty.

Some stores buy in such volume that the suppliers maintain entirely
separate facilities just for them... Colgate has dedicated plants,
warehouses, and accounting departments just for Walmart.... they get
priorty shipping and can pay whenever they like up to a year, most
large businesses only get up to 90 days, with small businesses they
are lucky to get 30 days, some are COD.

James Silverton wrote:

> Hello All!
>
> I've mentioned that I try store brands from time to time if it
> seems probable they can replace name-brand items. Today, I
> bought a can of Giant Stores "Vegetable Juice", an obvious take
> off on V-8. It wasn't bad at all even if it seemed lower in
> celery than the original. With a shot of Worcestershire sauce,
> as I usually drink it, there seemed little difference.

It could well be exactly the same product, the only difference
being the label. There are not that many canneries anymore. They
pack a certain amount with their company name. The rest of it gets
labels for the other companies and store brands.

On Thu, 15 May 2008 12:43:43 GMT, "Michael \"Dog3\""
> wrote:

>blake murphy > dropped this
>news >
>>
>> so what mustards do you like, michael? or are they local brands?
>
>I like poupon style mustards and I'm not real choosey about the brands.
>Inglehoffer sweet honey mustard is good too. I like French's yellow mustard
>on hot dogs. I also like Raye's Sweet & Spicy Mustard. I like the Ipswich
>Ale Mustard for brats, polish sausages etc. The Delicae Roasted Garlic &
>Horseradish Mustard is really awesome. I don't have favorites. I just sample
>them all
>

i don't recall seeing these (except for poupon, inglehoff and
french's), but i'll keep an eye out.

your pal,
blake

On Wed, 14 May 2008 18:39:20 -0400, "Kswck" >
wrote:

>
>"Michael "Dog3"" > wrote in message
86.121...
>> "James Silverton" > dropped this
>> news:LdCWj.318$LL.168@trnddc04: in rec.food.cooking
>>
>>>
>>> I suppose you mean Lea and Perrin's Worcestershire Sauce and, if
>>> so, I agree but I don't on Heinz Ketchup. There are several
>>> store brands that seems duplicates and Del Monte's used to be
>>> good too. I don't think I've seen it recently. I also agree with
>>> others that Tabasco brand pepper sauce is definitely the hottest
>>> and best.
>>
>> I use Lea and Perrin's. I've got Tabasco on hand all the time but I also
>> buy a lot of different hot sauces online. I love hot sauces. Steven will
>> only eat Heinz ketchup so that's what we buy. I'm not a ketchup fan so I
>> don't care what brand it is. Mustard is an entirely different story. I'm
>> ****y about my mustards.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>
>Do you know of this place? I just ordered stuff from them.
>
>http://www.mustardmuseum.com/exhibits/medicine/
>

if i lived nearby, i would definitely go to the museum.

your pal,
blake

On May 15, 10:09�am, Dave Smith > wrote:
> James Silverton wrote:
> > Hello All!
>
> > I've mentioned that I try store brands from time to time if it
> > seems probable they can replace name-brand items. Today, I
> > bought a can of Giant Stores "Vegetable Juice", an obvious take
> > off on V-8. It wasn't bad at all even if it seemed lower in
> > celery than the original. With a shot of Worcestershire sauce,
> > as I usually drink it, there seemed little difference.
>
> It could well be exactly the same product, the only difference
> being the label. There are not that many canneries anymore. They
> pack a certain amount with their company name. The rest of it gets
> labels for the other companies and store brands.

Exactly. And once you add worcestershire you materially change the
recipe to the point that there is no way to taste any difference. The
power of suggestion is very potent, seeing a different label is enough
make folks think the product has also changed.

Sheldon wrote:

> Very likely IS V-8... canned in a V-8 facility but with a different
> label... that it *seemed* to taste a little different is very likely
> psychological, just like people seem to find Walmart toothpaste tastes
> a little different from Colgate, yet it's the exact same product out
> of the same vat, just different packaging.
>

You mean just like drinking Coke-cola from those old fashion bottles

Sheldon wrote:
> "James Silverton" > wrote:
>> I've mentioned that I try store brands from time to time if it
>> seems probable they can replace name-brand items. Today, I
>> bought a can of Giant Stores "Vegetable Juice", an obvious take
>> off on V-8. It wasn't bad at all even if it seemed lower in
>> celery than the original. With a shot of Worcestershire sauce,
>> as I usually drink it, there seemed little difference.
>
> Very likely IS V-8... canned in a V-8 facility but with a different
> label... that it *seemed* to taste a little different is very likely
> psychological, just like people seem to find Walmart toothpaste tastes
> a little different from Colgate, yet it's the exact same product out
> of the same vat, just different packaging.
>

Not necessarily, walmart is so demanding of their suppliers and they buy
enough quantity that manufacturers will often run reduced quality
product batches just for them to meet their price point. There is even a
large nearby plant that is set up just to run the lower quality version
of their product just for walmart. They run the better product in other
plants they own.


> V-8 is essentially tomato juice but with some flavoring added. All
> tomato juice is made from tomato paste (tomato concentrate), not
> shipping all that water saves a lot of money... you can save a lot of
> money too by making your own.... how difficult is it to dump a can of
> tomato paste into a quart container, add water, and shake... no more
> difficult than preparing frozen orange juice. your tomato juice will
> cost you less than half... you can make V-8 by adding some vegetable
> soup boullion and a pinch of celery salt. Squeeze in a wedge of lime,
> add ice, worcestershire, hot sauce, and a good glug of vodka and you
> won't be so fussy about the exact recipe.
>

"Michael "Dog3"" > wrote in message
6.121...
> "Kswck" > dropped this
> : in rec.food.cooking
>
>
>> Do you know of this place? I just ordered stuff from them.
>>
>> http://www.mustardmuseum.com/exhibits/medicine/
>
> I absolutely do know that place. And the festival is the first Saturday in
> August if you can get a chance to make it. I've never been able to go.
> Don't forget to sign up for the catalogue.
>
> Michael
>
>

Wish I could go-too far away for me.
I'm going to 'sample' my 6 choices with some fresh brats this weekend.

Kswck wrote on Fri, 16 May 2008 15:43:45 -0400:


> "Michael "Dog3"" > wrote in message
> 6.121...
>> "Kswck" > dropped this
>> : in rec.food.cooking
>>
>>> Do you know of this place? I just ordered stuff from them.
>>>
>>> http://www.mustardmuseum.com/exhibits/medicine/
>>
>> I absolutely do know that place. And the festival is the
>> first Saturday in August if you can get a chance to make it.
>> I've never been able to go. Don't forget to sign up for the
>> catalogue.
>>
>> Michael
>>

>Wish I could go-too far away for me.
>I'm going to 'sample' my 6 choices with some fresh brats this
>weekend.

I've often wanted to do that. As WC Fields said about child
actors, parboiled might be best!

--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

E-mail, with obvious alterations:
not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

On Fri, 16 May 2008 08:36:06 -0500, Scott > wrote:

>You mean just like drinking Coke-cola from those old fashion bottles

Coke does taste better from a glass bottle! I'm sure there is some
scientific explanation -- the glass holds the cold better or the glass
does not react with your taste buds as you sip.

Tara

I tried the V8 from WalMart and found it good. Then I tried their
version of Clamato - undrinkable with OR without Worcestershire sauce
or lemon or lime or celery salt or . . .

But I LOVE that Clamato stuff so I tried the store brand of clamato at
my big supermarket. Tastes like the real Clamato at HALF the price.

As for the rest, I have preferences but I'll buy the store brand
except for a couple things:
Lea & Perrin's and French's French fried onions (ALL store brands
have been so bad I won't even buy 'em on sale. In every case, I opened
the can, tasted 'em and threw them in the trash.) Manwich. (I cook
with it instead of most canned tomato sauces.) I have, also had great
luck with anything from DelMonte with tomatoes in it.
Lynn in Fargo
Now I'm hungry again, dammit. This group is not good for an overweight
rookie diabetic.