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Giusi > wrote:

> "Sqwertz" > ha scritto nel messaggio
> ...
>> Steve Pope > wrote:
>>
>>> Pradeep S. Mehta, secretary general of the center for
>>> international trade, economics and the environment of
>>> CUTS International, an independent research institute
>>> based here, said that if Americans slimmed down to the
>>> weight of middle-class Indians, many hungry people in
>>> sub-Saharan Africa would find food on their plates.

>>
>> **** 'em. If they want to come over here and dig through our
>> garbage for the scraps, then let them. Otherwise their food
>> problems are their own problems.

>
> This is a stereotypical American statement and is the perfect expression of
> what is known as the Ugly American these days. It is also immoral even to
> non-religious.


What are the Italians doing to help India and North Africa? A hell
of a lot less than the U.S. is doing, that's for sure.

Now kindly **** off.

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"Sqwertz" > ha scritto nel messaggio
...
> Giusi > wrote:
>
>> "Sqwertz" > ha scritto nel messaggio
>> ...
>>> Steve Pope > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Pradeep S. Mehta, secretary general of the center for
>>>> international trade, economics and the environment of
>>>> CUTS International, an independent research institute
>>>> based here, said that if Americans slimmed down to the
>>>> weight of middle-class Indians, many hungry people in
>>>> sub-Saharan Africa would find food on their plates.
>>>
>>> **** 'em. If they want to come over here and dig through our
>>> garbage for the scraps, then let them. Otherwise their food
>>> problems are their own problems.

>>
>> This is a stereotypical American statement and is the perfect expression
>> of
>> what is known as the Ugly American these days. It is also immoral even
>> to
>> non-religious.

>
> What are the Italians doing to help India and North Africa? A hell
> of a lot less than the U.S. is doing, that's for sure.
>
> Now kindly **** off.
>
> -sw


You haven't a clue what you are talking about and you won't get one either
as long as you keep your head in it's jingoistic position and don't pay
attention to anything but rah rah "we're the greatest" fake news.


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Giusi > wrote:

> "Sqwertz" > ha scritto nel messaggio
> ...
>> Giusi > wrote:
>>
>>> "Sqwertz" > ha scritto nel messaggio
>>> ...
>>>> Steve Pope > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Pradeep S. Mehta, secretary general of the center for
>>>>> international trade, economics and the environment of
>>>>> CUTS International, an independent research institute
>>>>> based here, said that if Americans slimmed down to the
>>>>> weight of middle-class Indians, many hungry people in
>>>>> sub-Saharan Africa would find food on their plates.
>>>>
>>>> **** 'em. If they want to come over here and dig through our
>>>> garbage for the scraps, then let them. Otherwise their food
>>>> problems are their own problems.
>>>
>>> This is a stereotypical American statement and is the perfect expression
>>> of
>>> what is known as the Ugly American these days. It is also immoral even
>>> to
>>> non-religious.

>>
>> What are the Italians doing to help India and North Africa? A hell
>> of a lot less than the U.S. is doing, that's for sure.
>>
>> Now kindly **** off.

>
> You haven't a clue what you are talking about and you won't get one either
> as long as you keep your head in it's jingoistic position and don't pay
> attention to anything but rah rah "we're the greatest" fake news.


Ahh, more of the anti-American sentiment. The only patriotic
feelings I have are negative. And they mostly have to do with
allowing the outsourcing many of our jobs to India.

But I'll take your evasion of the question and your atypical
responses as a babbling surrender of the fact.

-sw
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On Thu, 15 May 2008 12:05:42 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>Giusi > wrote:
>
>> "Sqwertz" > ha scritto nel messaggio
>> ...
>>> Giusi > wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Sqwertz" > ha scritto nel messaggio
>>>> ...
>>>>> Steve Pope > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Pradeep S. Mehta, secretary general of the center for
>>>>>> international trade, economics and the environment of
>>>>>> CUTS International, an independent research institute
>>>>>> based here, said that if Americans slimmed down to the
>>>>>> weight of middle-class Indians, many hungry people in
>>>>>> sub-Saharan Africa would find food on their plates.
>>>>>
>>>>> **** 'em. If they want to come over here and dig through our
>>>>> garbage for the scraps, then let them. Otherwise their food
>>>>> problems are their own problems.
>>>>
>>>> This is a stereotypical American statement and is the perfect expression
>>>> of
>>>> what is known as the Ugly American these days. It is also immoral even
>>>> to
>>>> non-religious.
>>>
>>> What are the Italians doing to help India and North Africa? A hell
>>> of a lot less than the U.S. is doing, that's for sure.
>>>
>>> Now kindly **** off.

>>
>> You haven't a clue what you are talking about and you won't get one either
>> as long as you keep your head in it's jingoistic position and don't pay
>> attention to anything but rah rah "we're the greatest" fake news.

>
>Ahh, more of the anti-American sentiment. The only patriotic
>feelings I have are negative. And they mostly have to do with
>allowing the outsourcing many of our jobs to India.
>
>But I'll take your evasion of the question and your atypical
>responses as a babbling surrender of the fact.
>
>-sw


according to this chart, in 2002, by my count the u.s. was 15th out of
21 wealthy countries in per capita government and private foreign aid
spending:

<http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0930884.html>

true, we outspent italy. but the idea that the u.s. spends a
disproportionate amount of foreign aid, cherished as it is in some
quarters, is false.

your pal,
blake


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blake murphy > wrote:

> On Thu, 15 May 2008 12:05:42 -0500, Sqwertz >
> wrote:
>
>>Giusi > wrote:
>>
>>> "Sqwertz" > ha scritto nel messaggio
>>> ...
>>>> Giusi > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Sqwertz" > ha scritto nel messaggio
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> Steve Pope > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pradeep S. Mehta, secretary general of the center for
>>>>>>> international trade, economics and the environment of
>>>>>>> CUTS International, an independent research institute
>>>>>>> based here, said that if Americans slimmed down to the
>>>>>>> weight of middle-class Indians, many hungry people in
>>>>>>> sub-Saharan Africa would find food on their plates.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> **** 'em. If they want to come over here and dig through our
>>>>>> garbage for the scraps, then let them. Otherwise their food
>>>>>> problems are their own problems.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a stereotypical American statement and is the perfect expression
>>>>> of
>>>>> what is known as the Ugly American these days. It is also immoral even
>>>>> to
>>>>> non-religious.
>>>>
>>>> What are the Italians doing to help India and North Africa? A hell
>>>> of a lot less than the U.S. is doing, that's for sure.
>>>>
>>>> Now kindly **** off.
>>>
>>> You haven't a clue what you are talking about and you won't get one either
>>> as long as you keep your head in it's jingoistic position and don't pay
>>> attention to anything but rah rah "we're the greatest" fake news.

>>
>>Ahh, more of the anti-American sentiment. The only patriotic
>>feelings I have are negative. And they mostly have to do with
>>allowing the outsourcing many of our jobs to India.
>>
>>But I'll take your evasion of the question and your atypical
>>responses as a babbling surrender of the fact.
>>
>>-sw

>
> according to this chart, in 2002, by my count the u.s. was 15th out of
> 21 wealthy countries in per capita government and private foreign aid
> spending:
>
> <http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0930884.html>
>
> true, we outspent italy. but the idea that the u.s. spends a
> disproportionate amount of foreign aid, cherished as it is in some
> quarters, is false.


That's nice. But I never mentioned foreign aid. At least not
formal the kind of foreign aid you're referring to. I'm talking
about the contributions and investments U.S. companies have made and
enabled in India. Add that on top of the foreign aid you mention.

-sw


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Sqwertz > wrote:

>That's nice. But I never mentioned foreign aid. At least not
>formal the kind of foreign aid you're referring to. I'm talking
>about the contributions and investments U.S. companies have made and
>enabled in India.


So any sort of capitalist/imperialist expansion into the developing
world might be positioned as "aid". Nice.

Steve
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Steve Pope > wrote:

> Sqwertz > wrote:
>
>>That's nice. But I never mentioned foreign aid. At least not
>>formal the kind of foreign aid you're referring to. I'm talking
>>about the contributions and investments U.S. companies have made and
>>enabled in India.

>
> So any sort of capitalist/imperialist expansion into the developing
> world might be positioned as "aid". Nice.


Again, I never said the word 'aid'. My point was that India would
be a lot worse off if it wasn't for the U.S. (some would say the
opposite is true, too).

As it is, India is experiencing a thriving new economy that was
enabled by U.S. companies expansion into their country.

You can re-word my viewpoint to suit your needs any way you want.
Go ahead.

-sw
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Janet Baraclough > wrote:

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> from Sqwertz > contains these words:
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>> What are the Italians doing to help India and North Africa? A hell
>> of a lot less than the U.S. is doing, that's for sure.

>
> If you don't know what Italy is doing how did you manage to measure it?


Huh? Uh...

Oh, never mind. You're not worth it.

-sw
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