"Goomba38" > wrote in message
. ..
> Woolstitcher wrote:
>
>>>> I wish I could post my braided bread pics
>>>> I made a 15 braid this past weekend
>
>
>> http://tinypic.com/3i9zc9ee
>>
>>
> Amazing, and I bet satisfying to prepare.

Thank you, it is satisfying But more so now that I have my KA mixer.
Before that ... it was more work than I was willing to do.

> I wish I made bread more often. You inspire me.

it's not as hard as it looks, go for it.

On May 14, 11:51 pm, Goomba38 > wrote:
> Woolstitcher wrote:
> > "Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message
> >> Check YouTube; search "braiding bread." Some are mighty impressive.
> > I wish I could post my braided bread pics
> > I made a 15 braid this past weekend
>
> I had no idea folks ever braided more than three strands? That must have
> been both difficult and gorgeous. I wonder if the challah bakers at the
> Temples get competitive over this stuff?

They sure do. There are folks who make variety shaped breads for the
various holidays. Round for the New Year, with veggie shapes for the
harvest holiday, ladders for I forget which, candleabras for
Hanukkah. 4-6-strand braids with skinny braids on top.

I'll dig around and see if I can't find some of the sites with pic-a-
tures.
maxine in ri

On May 15, 9:46 am, "Woolstitcher" > wrote:
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
>
>
> > Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> >> In article >,
> >> "jmcquown" > wrote:
>
> >>> Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> >>>> In article >,
> >>>> "jmcquown" > wrote:
>
> >>>>> Punch down and knead again briefly. Return to bowl; cover and let
> >>>>> rise 1 to 1-1/2 hours. Punch down again. Cut off 1/4 of the
> >>>>> dough; set aside. Divide remaining dough into thirds and form into
> >>>>> long (18 inch) ropes of dough. Braid dough, pressing ends to
> >>>>> seal. Repeat with smaller 1/4 portion of dough and center on the
> >>>>> top, moistening with water to seal.
>
> >>>>> Jill
>
> >>>> Check YouTube; search "braiding bread." Some are mighty
> >>>> impressive.
>
> >>> I have to check YouTube to find out the results of my own baking?
> >>> Hmmm.
>
> >> Like Madge said in "Fargo," "There's no call to be snippy now, is
> >> there?" The videos are just some great examples of taking
> >> bread-braiding a few notches above. Don't get your knickers knotted.
>
> > They're not knotted I just hope someone tries the recipe because it
> > really turns out fantastic bread. And it's pretty, too.
>
> > Jill
>
> IMO the recipe you posted doen't have enough egg in it. There are less than
> 2 eggs in the batter for a large loaf?
> I wouldn't bother w/ egg bread or challah that has less than 3 eggs per med
> loaf and then another egg to use for brushing.

Different strokes for different folks. My 2 lb loaf calls for 2 eggs
and one for brushing. Also a moderate amount more sugar (1/4 cup).
Also saffron and cinnamon.

Depending on the culture, too much eggs and other additions means the
proper blessing can't be said.

maxine in ri

"maxine in ri" > wrote in message
...
> On May 14, 11:51 pm, Goomba38 > wrote:
>> Woolstitcher wrote:
>> > "Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message
>> >> Check YouTube; search "braiding bread." Some are mighty impressive.
>> > I wish I could post my braided bread pics
>> > I made a 15 braid this past weekend
>>
>> I had no idea folks ever braided more than three strands? That must have
>> been both difficult and gorgeous. I wonder if the challah bakers at the
>> Temples get competitive over this stuff?
>
> They sure do. There are folks who make variety shaped breads for the
> various holidays. Round for the New Year, with veggie shapes for the
> harvest holiday, ladders for I forget which, candleabras for
> Hanukkah. 4-6-strand braids with skinny braids on top.
>
> I'll dig around and see if I can't find some of the sites with pic-a-
> tures.
> maxine in ri

You know, I never thought of doing a candleabra, what a great idea!
another thing on my to-do list

"maxine in ri" > wrote in message
...
> On May 15, 9:46 am, "Woolstitcher" > wrote:
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>
>> ...
>>
>>
>>
>> > Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>> >> In article >,
>> >> "jmcquown" > wrote:
>>
>> >>> Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>> >>>> In article >,
>> >>>> "jmcquown" > wrote:
>>
>> >>>>> Punch down and knead again briefly. Return to bowl; cover and let
>> >>>>> rise 1 to 1-1/2 hours. Punch down again. Cut off 1/4 of the
>> >>>>> dough; set aside. Divide remaining dough into thirds and form into
>> >>>>> long (18 inch) ropes of dough. Braid dough, pressing ends to
>> >>>>> seal. Repeat with smaller 1/4 portion of dough and center on the
>> >>>>> top, moistening with water to seal.
>>
>> >>>>> Jill
>>
>> >>>> Check YouTube; search "braiding bread." Some are mighty
>> >>>> impressive.
>>
>> >>> I have to check YouTube to find out the results of my own baking?
>> >>> Hmmm.
>>
>> >> Like Madge said in "Fargo," "There's no call to be snippy now, is
>> >> there?" The videos are just some great examples of taking
>> >> bread-braiding a few notches above. Don't get your knickers knotted.
>>
>> > They're not knotted I just hope someone tries the recipe because it
>> > really turns out fantastic bread. And it's pretty, too.
>>
>> > Jill
>>
>> IMO the recipe you posted doen't have enough egg in it. There are less
>> than
>> 2 eggs in the batter for a large loaf?
>> I wouldn't bother w/ egg bread or challah that has less than 3 eggs per
>> med
>> loaf and then another egg to use for brushing.
>
> Different strokes for different folks. My 2 lb loaf calls for 2 eggs
> and one for brushing. Also a moderate amount more sugar (1/4 cup).
> Also saffron and cinnamon.
>
> Depending on the culture, too much eggs and other additions means the
> proper blessing can't be said.
>
> maxine in ri

I knew about other additions, however not about the egg. Can you tell me
more about this?
Thanks,

On Thu, 15 May 2008 17:48:50 -0500, "jmcquown"
> wrote:

>Goomba38 wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>> Gee, maybe my corner of West TN isn't overrun by Jewish people. I'm
>>> not the one who overreacted, it's someone else yelling Challah! when
>>> I have never seen Challah in my life. Forgive me for posting a
>>> recipe. Sheesh.
>>>
>> Oh come on... some days you're world traveler, lived all over, yada
>> yada ydaa,
>
>Point out the Jewish communities where I lived, please

I just searched Switchboard for Synagogues in Memphis, TN and got
about a dozen listings. And if you find an Orthodox Synagogue, look
around the neighborhood and you will find many Jewish families.
Orthodox Jews do not drive on the Sabbath.

> well read...and the next you're a simple unexposed bumpkin
>> from TN? Make up your mind....
>
>I'm not a bumpkin, but I still have never seen Challah. So get over it.
>
>> I can't count the numbers of magazine pictures and stories in any
>> number of food or homemaking magazines over my lifetime that showed
>> challah. And you never once read a bread baking cookbook or Jewish
>> story and never saw it mentioned? Perhaps a story or lesson on
>> cultural diversity is in order, eh?
>
>Perhaps. I still just posted a recipe for braided bread. So sorry if
>everyone else thinks this is "challah" (or not). It's just a pretty, tasty,
>braided bread.
>
--
Susan N.

"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974)

On May 15, 6:48 pm, "jmcquown" > wrote:
> Goomba38 wrote:
> > jmcquown wrote:
>
> >> Gee, maybe my corner of West TN isn't overrun by Jewish people. I'm
> >> not the one who overreacted, it's someone else yelling Challah! when
> >> I have never seen Challah in my life. Forgive me for posting a
> >> recipe. Sheesh.
>
> > Oh come on... some days you're world traveler, lived all over, yada
> > yada ydaa,
>
> Point out the Jewish communities where I lived, please
>
> well read...and the next you're a simple unexposed bumpkin
>
> > from TN? Make up your mind....
>
> I'm not a bumpkin, but I still have never seen Challah. So get over it.
>
> > I can't count the numbers of magazine pictures and stories in any
> > number of food or homemaking magazines over my lifetime that showed
> > challah. And you never once read a bread baking cookbook or Jewish
> > story and never saw it mentioned? Perhaps a story or lesson on
> > cultural diversity is in order, eh?
>
> Perhaps. I still just posted a recipe for braided bread. So sorry if
> everyone else thinks this is "challah" (or not). It's just a pretty, tasty,
> braided bread.

Why argue? And why apologize? You posted a recipe, numerous people
called it by another name, and as you pointed out, your source didn't
call it that. There are other cultures that braid their bread (Sweden
and Germany, IIRC) so the Hallmark recipe could have been a derivative
of one of those.

At around 2% of the population of the US, not much of the country is
"overrun" with Jews and their bakeries. If I took offense easily, I'd
be offended by your use of the term overrun, which is usually used in
a derogatory sense as "overrun with cockroaches" or "overrun with
[latest immigrant group]". But I don't, so I won't.

This is Usenet. Anyone taking comments made here seriously needs to
chill out with a nice tall cold mint Julep and a shot of aged whiskey.

maxine in ri

On Fri 16 May 2008 04:36:05a, Woolstitcher told us...

>
> "Goomba38" > wrote in message
> . ..
>> Woolstitcher wrote:
>>
>>>>> I wish I could post my braided bread pics
>>>>> I made a 15 braid this past weekend
>>
>>
>>> http://tinypic.com/3i9zc9ee
>>>
>>>
>> Amazing, and I bet satisfying to prepare.
>
> Thank you, it is satisfying But more so now that I have my KA mixer.
> Before that ... it was more work than I was willing to do.
>
>> I wish I made bread more often. You inspire me.
>
> it's not as hard as it looks, go for it.

I'm not so sure. I can bake pretty decent bread, and I can make a decent
looking 3 or 4 braid Challah, but 15? I don't think I'd even know where to
start. :-)

--
Wayne Boatwright
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"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
3.184...
> On Fri 16 May 2008 04:36:05a, Woolstitcher told us...
>
>>
>> "Goomba38" > wrote in message
>> . ..
>>> Woolstitcher wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> I wish I could post my braided bread pics
>>>>>> I made a 15 braid this past weekend
>>>
>>>
>>>> http://tinypic.com/3i9zc9ee
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Amazing, and I bet satisfying to prepare.
>>
>> Thank you, it is satisfying But more so now that I have my KA mixer.
>> Before that ... it was more work than I was willing to do.
>>
>>> I wish I made bread more often. You inspire me.
>>
>> it's not as hard as it looks, go for it.
>
> I'm not so sure. I can bake pretty decent bread, and I can make a decent
> looking 3 or 4 braid Challah, but 15? I don't think I'd even know where
> to
> start. :-)
>

It's not as hard as you think. I started w/ PlayDoh

On Fri 16 May 2008 09:55:32a, Woolstitcher told us...

>
> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
> 3.184...
>> On Fri 16 May 2008 04:36:05a, Woolstitcher told us...
>>
>>>
>>> "Goomba38" > wrote in message
>>> . ..
>>>> Woolstitcher wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> I wish I could post my braided bread pics
>>>>>>> I made a 15 braid this past weekend
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> http://tinypic.com/3i9zc9ee
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Amazing, and I bet satisfying to prepare.
>>>
>>> Thank you, it is satisfying But more so now that I have my KA mixer.
>>> Before that ... it was more work than I was willing to do.
>>>
>>>> I wish I made bread more often. You inspire me.
>>>
>>> it's not as hard as it looks, go for it.
>>
>> I'm not so sure. I can bake pretty decent bread, and I can make a
decent
>> looking 3 or 4 braid Challah, but 15? I don't think I'd even know where
>> to start. :-)
>>
>
> It's not as hard as you think. I started w/ PlayDoh
>
>
>

Makes a lot of sense. No wasted dough!

--
Wayne Boatwright
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Countdown till Memorial Day
1wks 2dys 14hrs
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My cat makes me search the room for
invisible intruders.
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On Thu, 15 May 2008 17:10:30 -0400, Goomba38 >
wrote:

>jmcquown wrote:
>> Goomba38 wrote:
>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>>> My answer didn't show up. Defensive because in reply to a recipe
>>>> everyone suggested I look at youtube breads and challah. This isn't
>>>> challah. It's a nicely braided bread recipe which happens to call
>>>> for eggs. Very tasty.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>> What do you see in it that makes it different from challah?
>>
>> I don't know WTF challah is. Apparently it calls for more eggs?! This is
>> just braided bread that calls for eggs and an egg wash over the top.
>> Sheesh, I'll forget about posting tried and true recipes in the near future.
>>
>Geesh, Stop with the dramatic over reaction. HTF can you NOT know (or
>deduce) that challah IS a braided bread made with eggs? You don't like
>in a cave. I truly can't imagine how one wouldn't recognize it as the
>same thing?

jill's recipe is untouched by jewish fingers.

your pal,
blake

On Thu, 15 May 2008 17:37:58 -0500, "jmcquown"
> wrote:

>Goomba38 wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>> Goomba38 wrote:
>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> My answer didn't show up. Defensive because in reply to a recipe
>>>>> everyone suggested I look at youtube breads and challah. This
>>>>> isn't challah. It's a nicely braided bread recipe which happens
>>>>> to call for eggs. Very tasty.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>> What do you see in it that makes it different from challah?
>>>
>>> I don't know WTF challah is. Apparently it calls for more eggs?!
>>> This is just braided bread that calls for eggs and an egg wash over
>>> the top. Sheesh, I'll forget about posting tried and true recipes in
>>> the near future.
>>>
>> Geesh, Stop with the dramatic over reaction. HTF can you NOT know (or
>> deduce) that challah IS a braided bread made with eggs? You don't like
>> in a cave. I truly can't imagine how one wouldn't recognize it as the
>> same thing?
>
>Gee, maybe my corner of West TN isn't overrun by Jewish people.

'overrun'? tsk, tsk. i assume you do have negroes.

your pal,
blake

On Thu, 15 May 2008 12:25:30 -0400, Goomba38 >
wrote:

>jmcquown wrote:
>
>> Where did I say this was challah? It's a friggin recipe from a Hallmark
>> cookbook. Nothing to to with Jewish cooking whatsoever. Turns out a very
>> tasty loaf of braiaded bread, tried and true recipe. The book called it
>> "egg bread". That's all there is.
>>
>> Jill
>>
>I can't see Hallmark selling a recipe called challah...might confuse
>those folks shopping for Christmas cards, eh?

i wonder what they call chinese recipes?

your pal,
blake

On Thu, 15 May 2008 11:55:32 -0500, "jmcquown"
> wrote:

>Goomba38 wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>> This isn't "challah". It's just a braided bread recipe. And a very
>>> good one. Tried and true.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>>
>> That dog won't hunt.
>> Just because "they" didn't call it challah, doesn't change the nature
>> of the beast. It just kind of dumbed it down a bit for a cookbook.
>
>Your dog is wrong. Obviously it's not challah since (according to most
>replies) it doesn't contain enough eggs to be challah. It's just bread,
>braided. Pretty. Tasty. Sheesh. Sorry I bothered to post an ON TOPIC
>recipe.
>

i think you should just take your braided bread and go home.

your pal,
blake

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> In reply to the "eggs" post by sf... I've made this a number of times and
> it's fantastic. The recipe actually came from a Hallmark holiday
> cookbook,
> circa 1979.
>
> Braided Egg Bread
>
> 1 pkg. active dry yeast
> 2 Tbs. sugar
> 1 c. warm water (120F degrees)
> 3-1/2 - 4 c. flour
> 1-1/2 tsp. salt
> 2 Tbs. melted butter
> 2 eggs, beaten
>
> Dissolve yeast and sugar in warm water. Add about 2-1/2 cups flour to
> make
> a heavy batter. Beat in salt, butter and eggs, reserving 1 Tbs. of beaten
> egg for glaze. Work in enough additional flour to form a firm dough.
> Knead
> on floured board until smooth and elastic. Place dough in lightly oiled
> bowl and turn to coat entire surface. Cover with a towel and let rise in
> a
> warm place about 2 hours or until doubled.
>
> Punch down and knead again briefly. Return to bowl; cover and let rise 1
> to
> 1-1/2 hours. Punch down again. Cut off 1/4 of the dough; set aside.
> Divide remaining dough into thirds and form into long (18 inch) ropes of
> dough. Braid dough, pressing ends to seal. Repeat with smaller 1/4
> portion
> of dough and center on the top, moistening with water to seal.
>
> Cover and let rise on a greased baking sheet for 45 minutes. Brush with
> beaten egg. Bake at 400 degrees for 15 minutes. Reduce heat to 350 and
> continue baking for 20-30 minutes or until deep brown. Makes 1 large
> loaf.


I do refrigerator dinner rolls every Thanksgiving and I braid them. They
are usually gobbled up but I'll set a couple aside for sandhiwhces the next
day. Great way to present bread, everyone oohs and ahhs over it.

Paul

On May 16, 1:01*pm, Wayne Boatwright >
wrote:
> On Fri 16 May 2008 09:55:32a, Woolstitcher told us...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
> 73.184...
> >> On Fri 16 May 2008 04:36:05a, Woolstitcher told us...
>
> >>> "Goomba38" > wrote in message
> om...
> >>>> Woolstitcher wrote:
>
> >>>>>>> I wish I could post my braided bread pics
> >>>>>>> I made a *15 braid this past weekend *
>
> >>>>>http://tinypic.com/3i9zc9ee
>
> >>>> Amazing, and I bet satisfying to prepare.
>
> >>> Thank you, it is satisfying But more so now that I have my KA mixer..
> >>> Before that ... it was more work than I was willing to do.
>
> >>>> I wish I made bread more often. You inspire me.
>
> >>> it's not as hard as it looks, go for it.
>
> >> I'm not so sure. *I can bake pretty decent bread, and I can make a
> decent
> >> looking 3 or 4 braid Challah, but 15? *I don't think I'd even know where
> >> to start. :-)
>
> > It's not as hard as you think. *I started w/ PlayDoh
>
> Makes a lot of sense. *No wasted dough!

Just remember not to taste.

Goomba38 wrote:

>>
> I had no idea folks ever braided more than three strands? That must have
> been both difficult and gorgeous. I wonder if the challah bakers at the
> Temples get competitive over this stuff?

Not in any Temple I've belonged to.

I heard that my grandmothermade a 6 braid challah. My mom said she never
got the hang of it so I never could learn.

I just made a traditional one a few hours ago with 3 braids and the
small braided loaf on top. I was tempted to go for 4 strips in the braid
using the technique I used in summer camp for lanyards.
--
Janet Wilder
Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
Good Friends. Good Life

Woolstitcher wrote:

>
> You know, I never thought of doing a candleabra, what a great idea!
> another thing on my to-do list
>

That is a great idea! I'm going to store it away for Chanukah.


--
Janet Wilder
Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
Good Friends. Good Life

On Fri, 16 May 2008 12:55:32 -0400, "Woolstitcher"
> wrote:

>
>"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
73.184...
>> On Fri 16 May 2008 04:36:05a, Woolstitcher told us...
>>
>>>
>>> "Goomba38" > wrote in message
>>> . ..
>>>> Woolstitcher wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> I wish I could post my braided bread pics
>>>>>>> I made a 15 braid this past weekend
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> http://tinypic.com/3i9zc9ee
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Amazing, and I bet satisfying to prepare.
>>>
>>> Thank you, it is satisfying But more so now that I have my KA mixer.
>>> Before that ... it was more work than I was willing to do.
>>>
>>>> I wish I made bread more often. You inspire me.
>>>
>>> it's not as hard as it looks, go for it.
>>
>> I'm not so sure. I can bake pretty decent bread, and I can make a decent
>> looking 3 or 4 braid Challah, but 15? I don't think I'd even know where
>> to
>> start. :-)
>>
>
>It's not as hard as you think. I started w/ PlayDoh
>

very clever! you must be a sharp cookie.

your pal,
blake