Hello All!

Today, I used some Campbell's French Onion Soup. The ingredient
list indicated "about 2.5 servings". Why would any want to serve
half a person or is it just a way to reduce the amounts of fat
or salt listed?

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James Silverton wrote:
>
> Hello All!
>
> Today, I used some Campbell's French Onion Soup. The ingredient
> list indicated "about 2.5 servings". Why would any want to serve
> half a person or is it just a way to reduce the amounts of fat
> or salt listed?

I believe most of it relates to the government defining the standard
service sizes that the nutrition information must be based on, even
though those sizes aren't even multiples of normal can sizes nor are
they the serving sizes any normal person uses.

James Silverton wrote:
> Hello All!
>
> Today, I used some Campbell's French Onion Soup. The ingredient
> list indicated "about 2.5 servings". Why would any want to serve
> half a person or is it just a way to reduce the amounts of fat
> or salt listed?

Serving sizes are probably regulated by someone, somehow, for some obscure
reason. It always kills me to see what you describe. Like what, you're
going to feed two adults and a small child from that can of soup?

What says "serves 4" means serves 2, at least in my world. My serving size
isn't generally 5 tablespoonfuls of whatever.

Wouldn't it be funny if they started marking vegetables this way? Oh no,
sorry, that big honkin' baked potato serves 4!

Jill

jmcquown wrote:
>
> James Silverton wrote:
> > Hello All!
> >
> > Today, I used some Campbell's French Onion Soup. The ingredient
> > list indicated "about 2.5 servings". Why would any want to serve
> > half a person or is it just a way to reduce the amounts of fat
> > or salt listed?
>
> Serving sizes are probably regulated by someone, somehow, for some obscure
> reason. It always kills me to see what you describe. Like what, you're
> going to feed two adults and a small child from that can of soup?
>
> What says "serves 4" means serves 2, at least in my world. My serving size
> isn't generally 5 tablespoonfuls of whatever.
>
> Wouldn't it be funny if they started marking vegetables this way? Oh no,
> sorry, that big honkin' baked potato serves 4!
>
> Jill

Yea, I seem to recall that the government standard bagel is about 1/6
the size of what anyone would consider a normal bagel (in the US at
least).

Pete C. wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> James Silverton wrote:
>>> Hello All!
>>>
>>> Today, I used some Campbell's French Onion Soup. The ingredient
>>> list indicated "about 2.5 servings". Why would any want to serve
>>> half a person or is it just a way to reduce the amounts of fat
>>> or salt listed?
>>
>> Serving sizes are probably regulated by someone, somehow, for some
>> obscure reason. It always kills me to see what you describe. Like
>> what, you're going to feed two adults and a small child from that
>> can of soup?
>>
>> What says "serves 4" means serves 2, at least in my world. My
>> serving size isn't generally 5 tablespoonfuls of whatever.
>>
>> Wouldn't it be funny if they started marking vegetables this way?
>> Oh no, sorry, that big honkin' baked potato serves 4!
>>
>> Jill
>
> Yea, I seem to recall that the government standard bagel is about 1/6
> the size of what anyone would consider a normal bagel (in the US at
> least).

God forbid I should eat an entire biscuit, then! LOL

"James Silverton" > wrote in message
news:elYWj.3680$LL.1299@trnddc04...
> Hello All!
>
> Today, I used some Campbell's French Onion Soup. The ingredient list
> indicated "about 2.5 servings". Why would any want to serve half a person
> or is it just a way to reduce the amounts of fat or salt listed?
>
> --
>
>
> James Silverton
> Potomac, Maryland

It's because most people don't have the slightest grasp of what a serving
means. It does not mean whatever amount is in your bowl or on your plate.
Servings are a very specific size. Just because something is called a
"serving size" does not mean you can't have more than one serving at a meal.
How else do you think you're going to get 6 to 11 servings of grains, 3 to 5
of vegetables and 2 to 4 of fruit plus the 2 to 3 servings of meat and and 2
to 3 servings of dairy per day?

Ms P

jmcquown wrote:

> Serving sizes are probably regulated by someone, somehow, for some obscure
> reason. It always kills me to see what you describe. Like what, you're
> going to feed two adults and a small child from that can of soup?
>
> What says "serves 4" means serves 2, at least in my world. My serving size
> isn't generally 5 tablespoonfuls of whatever.

I think the people that make up those tiny portion sizes should be serving
7 to 10 -- at hard labor.


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Ms wrote on Thu, 15 May 2008 12:11:30 -0500:


> "James Silverton" > wrote in
> message news:elYWj.3680$LL.1299@trnddc04...
>> Hello All!
>>
>> Today, I used some Campbell's French Onion Soup. The
>> ingredient list indicated "about 2.5 servings". Why would any
>> want to serve half a person or is it just a way to reduce the
>> amounts of fat or salt listed?
>>
>> --
>>
>> James Silverton
>> Potomac, Maryland

> It's because most people don't have the slightest grasp of
> what a serving means. It does not mean whatever amount is in
> your bowl or on your plate. Servings are a very specific size.
> Just because something is called a "serving size" does not
> mean you can't have more than one serving at a meal. How else
> do you think you're going to get 6 to 11 servings of grains, 3
> to 5 of vegetables and 2 to 4 of fruit plus the 2 to 3
> servings of meat and and 2 to 3 servings of dairy per day?

You are just too kind and forgiving!

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Potomac, Maryland

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"jmcquown" wrote

> Serving sizes are probably regulated by someone, somehow, for some obscure
> reason. It always kills me to see what you describe. Like what, you're
> going to feed two adults and a small child from that can of soup?

I think their aim on soups is usually that you serve them also with a
samwich or largish salad, hence less per person.

"James Silverton" > wrote in message
news:kg_Wj.17867$%X1.3381@trnddc08...
> Ms wrote on Thu, 15 May 2008 12:11:30 -0500:
>
>
>> It's because most people don't have the slightest grasp of
>> what a serving means. It does not mean whatever amount is in your bowl
>> or on your plate. Servings are a very specific size.
>> Just because something is called a "serving size" does not
>> mean you can't have more than one serving at a meal. How else do you
>> think you're going to get 6 to 11 servings of grains, 3
>> to 5 of vegetables and 2 to 4 of fruit plus the 2 to 3
>> servings of meat and and 2 to 3 servings of dairy per day?
>
> You are just too kind and forgiving!
>
> --
>
> James Silverton
> Potomac, Maryland

LOL, sorry, it's actually one of my pet peeves. It's also why people are
getting fatter and fatter. When you think a "serving" of fruit means a
whole fruit and to get 4 servings you have to eat 4 apples or 4 bananas plus
5 helpings of vegetables and grains and dairy and meat, you get the idea.

Most people eat a whole day's "servings" of meat at one meal but think of it
as only one serving. So they eat 2 or 3 times the number of servings they
should actually have.

A 6 ounce steak is 2 servings of meat.
An apple is 2 servings of fruit.

Something like a sandwich with 1 ounce of meat, 1 ounce of cheese and
lettuce and tomato would be 2 servings of bread, 1/3 of meat, 1 of cheese,
and a third to a half serving of vegetables.

Ms P

On Thu, 15 May 2008 17:19:12 GMT, "James Silverton"
> wrote:

> Ms wrote on Thu, 15 May 2008 12:11:30 -0500:
>
>
>> "James Silverton" > wrote in
>> message news:elYWj.3680$LL.1299@trnddc04...
>>> Hello All!
>>>
>>> Today, I used some Campbell's French Onion Soup. The
>>> ingredient list indicated "about 2.5 servings". Why would any
>>> want to serve half a person or is it just a way to reduce the
>>> amounts of fat or salt listed?
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> James Silverton
>>> Potomac, Maryland
>
>> It's because most people don't have the slightest grasp of
>> what a serving means. It does not mean whatever amount is in
>> your bowl or on your plate. Servings are a very specific size.
>> Just because something is called a "serving size" does not
>> mean you can't have more than one serving at a meal. How else
>> do you think you're going to get 6 to 11 servings of grains, 3
>> to 5 of vegetables and 2 to 4 of fruit plus the 2 to 3
>> servings of meat and and 2 to 3 servings of dairy per day?
>
>You are just too kind and forgiving!


And to make all the more clearer (awkard grammar intentional), the USDA
has put out a publication to explain it all to you. Included in this
helpful tract is a note that the serving sizes used in the USDA Food
Guide Pyramid and the Nutrional Facts Label are not necessarily same and
that 'attempts to directly compage Pyramid and label servings may,
therefore, generate confusion'.

I kid you not. Have a look:

http://www.cnpp.usda.gov/Publication.../Insight22.pdf


As for the difference between a bagel serving size and a bagel you buy,
well that can be partially explained by remembering that a standard
serving of soda was set back when a bottle of coke was 6 oz and now,
with super-sizing, a unit can be anything from a 12-oz can to a 16-oz
bottle to ... how big is a super-big gulp anyway.

kilikini wrote:
> cshenk wrote:
>> "jmcquown" wrote
>>
>>> Serving sizes are probably regulated by someone, somehow, for some
>>> obscure reason. It always kills me to see what you describe. Like
>>> what, you're going to feed two adults and a small child from that
>>> can of soup?
>>
>> I think their aim on soups is usually that you serve them also with a
>> samwich or largish salad, hence less per person.
>
> If I'm eating soup, that's it, I'm just eating soup. A sandwich or a
> salad is overkill, IMO. (Especially if it's a good, thick, chunky
> homemade soup!!!)
>
I'm with you. If I eat soup, it's not a first course. Well, unless I'm at
some fancy place (ha!). I just want soup. Give me a bowl of soup!

> Okay, I'm wanting to make pea soup, now. Anyone have a spare ham
> bone with some meat left on it?
>
Oh dear, sorry, I don't have one.

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> James Silverton wrote:
>> Hello All!
>>
>> Today, I used some Campbell's French Onion Soup. The ingredient
>> list indicated "about 2.5 servings". Why would any want to serve
>> half a person or is it just a way to reduce the amounts of fat
>> or salt listed?
>
> Serving sizes are probably regulated by someone, somehow, for some obscure
> reason. It always kills me to see what you describe. Like what, you're
> going to feed two adults and a small child from that can of soup?
>
> What says "serves 4" means serves 2, at least in my world. My serving
> size
> isn't generally 5 tablespoonfuls of whatever.
>
> Wouldn't it be funny if they started marking vegetables this way? Oh no,
> sorry, that big honkin' baked potato serves 4!
>
> Jill
>

What you put on your plate or in your bowl is not the serving size.

That big honkin' baked potato might very well be 4 SERVINGS and not serve 4
people. A single serving is about 1/2 cup. You can of course have more
than ONE serving. Unless of course you consider that big honkin' potato ONE
serving then you're going to be way over eating.

Ms P

"kilikini" > wrote in message
...
> jmcquown wrote:
>> Pete C. wrote:
>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What says "serves 4" means serves 2, at least in my world. My
>>>> serving size isn't generally 5 tablespoonfuls of whatever.
>>>>
>>>> Wouldn't it be funny if they started marking vegetables this way?
>>>> Oh no, sorry, that big honkin' baked potato serves 4!
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> Yea, I seem to recall that the government standard bagel is about 1/6
>>> the size of what anyone would consider a normal bagel (in the US at
>>> least).
>>
>> God forbid I should eat an entire biscuit, then! LOL
>
> Oh, no, you must only have half and dunk it into a thimble-sized rameken
> of soup. :~)
>
> kili

Why do people think that you can only have one serving of anything and that
serving must be however much they want to put on their plate? It's no
wonder people in this country are getting so fat.

A biscuit is probably two servings of bread. A bowl of soup is probably two
servings. You are ALLOWED to have more than ONE serving!!!

Ms P

Ms P wrote:
>
> "kilikini" > wrote in message
> ...
> > jmcquown wrote:
> >> Pete C. wrote:
> >>> jmcquown wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> What says "serves 4" means serves 2, at least in my world. My
> >>>> serving size isn't generally 5 tablespoonfuls of whatever.
> >>>>
> >>>> Wouldn't it be funny if they started marking vegetables this way?
> >>>> Oh no, sorry, that big honkin' baked potato serves 4!
> >>>>
> >>>> Jill
> >>>
> >>> Yea, I seem to recall that the government standard bagel is about 1/6
> >>> the size of what anyone would consider a normal bagel (in the US at
> >>> least).
> >>
> >> God forbid I should eat an entire biscuit, then! LOL
> >
> > Oh, no, you must only have half and dunk it into a thimble-sized rameken
> > of soup. :~)
> >
> > kili
>
> Why do people think that you can only have one serving of anything and that
> serving must be however much they want to put on their plate? It's no
> wonder people in this country are getting so fat.
>
> A biscuit is probably two servings of bread. A bowl of soup is probably two
> servings. You are ALLOWED to have more than ONE serving!!!
>
> Ms P

I'm also allowed to define what I consider a serving, and tell the
government and other serving size nazis to **** off.

On Thu 15 May 2008 01:17:58p, Pete C. told us...

>
> Ms P wrote:
>>
>> "kilikini" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > jmcquown wrote:
>> >> Pete C. wrote:
>> >>> jmcquown wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> What says "serves 4" means serves 2, at least in my world. My
>> >>>> serving size isn't generally 5 tablespoonfuls of whatever.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Wouldn't it be funny if they started marking vegetables this way?
>> >>>> Oh no, sorry, that big honkin' baked potato serves 4!
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Jill
>> >>>
>> >>> Yea, I seem to recall that the government standard bagel is about
>> >>> 1/6 the size of what anyone would consider a normal bagel (in the
>> >>> US at least).
>> >>
>> >> God forbid I should eat an entire biscuit, then! LOL
>> >
>> > Oh, no, you must only have half and dunk it into a thimble-sized
>> > rameken of soup. :~)
>> >
>> > kili
>>
>> Why do people think that you can only have one serving of anything and
>> that serving must be however much they want to put on their plate?
>> It's no wonder people in this country are getting so fat.
>>
>> A biscuit is probably two servings of bread. A bowl of soup is
>> probably two servings. You are ALLOWED to have more than ONE
>> serving!!!
>>
>> Ms P
>
> I'm also allowed to define what I consider a serving, and tell the
> government and other serving size nazis to **** off.
>

hehehe! I'm wit ya!

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On Thu 15 May 2008 01:17:58p, Pete C. told us...

>
> Ms P wrote:
>>
>> "kilikini" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > jmcquown wrote:
>> >> Pete C. wrote:
>> >>> jmcquown wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> What says "serves 4" means serves 2, at least in my world. My
>> >>>> serving size isn't generally 5 tablespoonfuls of whatever.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Wouldn't it be funny if they started marking vegetables this way?
>> >>>> Oh no, sorry, that big honkin' baked potato serves 4!
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Jill
>> >>>
>> >>> Yea, I seem to recall that the government standard bagel is about
>> >>> 1/6 the size of what anyone would consider a normal bagel (in the
>> >>> US at least).
>> >>
>> >> God forbid I should eat an entire biscuit, then! LOL
>> >
>> > Oh, no, you must only have half and dunk it into a thimble-sized
>> > rameken of soup. :~)
>> >
>> > kili
>>
>> Why do people think that you can only have one serving of anything and
>> that serving must be however much they want to put on their plate?
>> It's no wonder people in this country are getting so fat.
>>
>> A biscuit is probably two servings of bread. A bowl of soup is
>> probably two servings. You are ALLOWED to have more than ONE
>> serving!!!
>>
>> Ms P
>
> I'm also allowed to define what I consider a serving, and tell the
> government and other serving size nazis to **** off.
>

Reminds of back in the 1960s and a friend with whom I used often cook and
eat with. If we bought a package of something and it said "serves 6", we'd
say "or two pigs". :-) That was us.

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cshenk wrote:
> "jmcquown" wrote
>
>> Serving sizes are probably regulated by someone, somehow, for some
>> obscure reason. It always kills me to see what you describe. Like
>> what, you're going to feed two adults and a small child from that
>> can of soup?
>
> I think their aim on soups is usually that you serve them also with a
> samwich or largish salad, hence less per person.

I have no idea what their "aim" is when it comes to canned soup. I
generally only order a "cup" of soup (in lieu of salad) at a restaurant. If
I order a bowl of soup that's the meal.

Jill

Wayne wrote on Thu, 15 May 2008 20:33:37 GMT:

>> Ms P wrote:
>> I'm also allowed to define what I consider a serving, and
>> tell the government and other serving size nazis to **** off.
>>
> hehehe! I'm wit ya!


A very reasonable viewpoint but many of us read the nutrition
information quickly without checking what is a serving size
since what we are interested in is the daily allotment of, say,
salt.
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Potomac, Maryland

E-mail, with obvious alterations:
not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

jmcquown wrote on Thu, 15 May 2008 15:45:10 -0500:

> cshenk wrote:
>> "jmcquown" wrote
>>
>>> Serving sizes are probably regulated by someone, somehow,
>>> for some obscure reason. It always kills me to see what you
>>> describe. Like what, you're going to feed two adults and a
>>> small child from that can of soup?
>>
>> I think their aim on soups is usually that you serve them
>> also with a samwich or largish salad, hence less per person.

> I have no idea what their "aim" is when it comes to canned
> soup. I generally only order a "cup" of soup (in lieu of
> salad) at a restaurant. If I order a bowl of soup that's the
> meal.

Roughly speaking, I agree but it would be good to know what a
restaurant considers a "cup" and a "bowl". They might as well
say "small" and "regular" which is just as specific!

--

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Potomac, Maryland

E-mail, with obvious alterations:
not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

James wrote to jmcquown on Thu, 15 May 2008 21:12:25 GMT:

>> cshenk wrote:
>>> "jmcquown" wrote
>>>
>>>> Serving sizes are probably regulated by someone, somehow,
>>>> for some obscure reason. It always kills me to see what
>>>> you describe. Like what, you're going to feed two adults
>>>> and a small child from that can of soup?
>>>
>>> I think their aim on soups is usually that you serve them
>>> also with a samwich or largish salad, hence less per person.

>> I have no idea what their "aim" is when it comes to canned
>> soup. I generally only order a "cup" of soup (in lieu of
>> salad) at a restaurant. If I order a bowl of soup that's the
>> meal.

> Roughly speaking, I agree but it would be good to know what a
> restaurant considers a "cup" and a "bowl". They might as well
> say "small" and "regular" which is just as specific!

I'll just add that my favorite Pho restaurant has two sizes:
"regular" and "large". If you don't share the large you might as
well resign yourself to napping after lunch!

--

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Potomac, Maryland

E-mail, with obvious alterations:
not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

James Silverton wrote:

> I'll just add that my favorite Pho restaurant has two sizes: "regular"
> and "large". If you don't share the large you might as well resign
> yourself to napping after lunch!
>
I don't drink coffee, and rarely go into Starbucks for a cup of tea. I
sit there baffled by the size selection- large? grande? venti? HUH?

Goomba38s wrote:
> James Silverton wrote:
> > I'll just add that my favorite Pho restaurant has two sizes: "regular"
> > and "large". If you don't share the large you might as well resign
> > yourself to napping after lunch!
>
> I don't drink coffee, and rarely go into Starbucks for a cup of tea. I
> sit there baffled by the size selection- large? grande? venti? HUH?

Are you sure you didn't wnder into Victoria's Secret by mistake?

Goomba38 wrote:
>
> James Silverton wrote:
>
> > I'll just add that my favorite Pho restaurant has two sizes: "regular"
> > and "large". If you don't share the large you might as well resign
> > yourself to napping after lunch!
> >
> I don't drink coffee, and rarely go into Starbucks for a cup of tea. I
> sit there baffled by the size selection- large? grande? venti? HUH?

I just order "large" and never have an issue. Homie don't play the
"venti" game...

"Ms P" wrote:
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
>
>
>
>
> > James Silverton wrote:
> >> Hello All!
>
> >> Today, I used some Campbell's French Onion Soup. The ingredient
> >> list indicated "about 2.5 servings". Why would any want to serve
> >> half a person or is it just a way to reduce the amounts of fat
> >> or salt listed?
>
> > Serving sizes are probably regulated by someone, somehow, for some obscure
> > reason. �It always kills me to see what you describe. �Like what, you're
> > going to feed two adults and a small child from that can of soup?
>
> > What says "serves 4" means serves 2, at least in my world. �My serving
> > size
> > isn't generally 5 tablespoonfuls of whatever.
>
> > Wouldn't it be funny if they started marking vegetables this way? �Oh no,
> > sorry, that big honkin' baked potato serves 4!
>
> > Jill
>
> What you put on your plate or in your bowl is not the serving size.
>
> That big honkin' baked potato might very well be 4 SERVINGS and not serve 4
> people. �A single serving is about 1/2 cup. �You can of course have more
> than ONE serving. �Unless of course you consider that big honkin' potato ONE
> serving then you're going to be way over eating.

Depends on many other factors... if you don't eat the hunks of bread
slathered with butter, don't have the typical empty calorie
appetizers, no dessert and don't drink the entirte bottle of dago red
then that jumbo spud is not over eating... potatoes in of themselvs
are not fattening, in fact just the opposite, they make a healthful
filling vegetable so you don't eat all the chazeri. A large baked
potato with a dollop of fat free yogurt sprinkled with herbs makes for
a very nutritious and health conscious part of a meal, goes a long way
to keep the meat portion smaller too.

"James Silverton" > wrote

> A very reasonable viewpoint but many of us read the nutrition information
> quickly without checking what is a serving size since what we are
> interested in is the daily allotment of, say, salt.

If you're worried about the sodium or calories, whatever, you'd
better check the serving size and do the math. You could be
in for a real shock. They will make the serving size small enough
to make the numbers look reasonable. Like, who eats a half
a pot pie?

At the same time, if I have a can of soup for lunch, assuming the
numbers aren't outlandish (you know the sodium is probably going to
be high!), I am not splitting it with 1 1/2 other people. That's my
lunch, all 385 calories, back off! Heh.

nancy

On Thu 15 May 2008 01:45:10p, jmcquown told us...

> cshenk wrote:
>> "jmcquown" wrote
>>
>>> Serving sizes are probably regulated by someone, somehow, for some
>>> obscure reason. It always kills me to see what you describe. Like
>>> what, you're going to feed two adults and a small child from that can
>>> of soup?
>>
>> I think their aim on soups is usually that you serve them also with a
>> samwich or largish salad, hence less per person.
>
> I have no idea what their "aim" is when it comes to canned soup. I
> generally only order a "cup" of soup (in lieu of salad) at a restaurant.
> If I order a bowl of soup that's the meal.
>
> Jill

Yeah, I don't get it either. A standard can of condensed soup,
reconstituted, is usually 16 fluid ounces, or 2 cups. If it were for a
meal with bread or crackers, then the whole can would be the meal. Even
served as a "cup of soup", it would only serve 2 in my house, not 2 and a
half.



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"James Silverton" > wrote in message
news:elYWj.3680$LL.1299@trnddc04...
> Hello All!
>
> Today, I used some Campbell's French Onion Soup. The ingredient
> list indicated "about 2.5 servings". Why would any want to serve
> half a person or is it just a way to reduce the amounts of fat
> or salt listed?

> James Silverton
> Potomac, Maryland

It's just a way to manipulate the nutritional information so it doesn't look quite
so heinous.

kimberly

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> kilikini wrote:
>> Ms P wrote:
>>> No wonder the country gets fatter every day.
>>>
>>> Ms P
>>
>> I'd eat half the potato, take the other half home and call it a day.
>> :~)
>>
>> kili
>
> I can barely eat the potato, forget about the bread basket. Mrs.P is
> projecting her fat self on everyone else.
>
> Jill
>

Wrong. Apparently I'm the only one that understands what servings are and
how many servings you should have in one day.

Go to any nutritionist and get an education.

Ms P

jmcquown said...

> cshenk wrote:
>> "jmcquown" wrote
>>
>>> Serving sizes are probably regulated by someone, somehow, for some
>>> obscure reason. It always kills me to see what you describe. Like
>>> what, you're going to feed two adults and a small child from that
>>> can of soup?
>>
>> I think their aim on soups is usually that you serve them also with a
>> samwich or largish salad, hence less per person.
>
> I have no idea what their "aim" is when it comes to canned soup. I
> generally only order a "cup" of soup (in lieu of salad) at a restaurant.
> If I order a bowl of soup that's the meal.
>
> Jill


Lightweight!!!

I'll eat Pea Soup Andersen's bottomless split pea soup in Buelton, CA and a
tri-tip steak sandwich until the... ??? peas come home?

Andy

On May 15, 11:09�pm, "Ms P" > wrote:
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
>
>
>
>
> > kilikini wrote:
> >> Ms P wrote:
> >>> No wonder the country gets fatter every day.
>
> >>> Ms P
>
> >> I'd eat half the potato, take the other half home and call it a day.
> >> :~)
>
> >> kili
>
> > I can barely eat the potato, forget about the bread basket. �Mrs..P is
> > projecting her fat self on everyone else.
>
> > Jill
>
> Wrong. �Apparently I'm the only one that understands what servings are and
> how many servings you should have in one day.
>
> Go to any nutritionist and get an education.

Actually you're wrong. Nutritionists/dieticians are for people who
need guidance, those with particular illnesses, allergies, and or have
apparent eating disorders. But for normal/well people portion control
is at best only a suggestion (a very loosey goosey suggestion),
typically used for institutional commissaries where people have little
to no input regarding choice. That a can of peas indicates "3 1/2
servings" is meaningless because except in controlled situations it
doesn't account for the particular person, their life style, and for
what other foods are consumed... how does a can of peas in of itself
know anything about the above parameters... in a free society portion
control is totally meaningless, because in a free society portions are
determined by society, not for society. Portion control only has
meaning when part of some grand lab experiment. Human physiology is
such that we store all the nesessary nutrients for a very long time,
we don't need to eat a precision measured diet every day. Very few
are going to eat a one pound potato every day, but eating as much as
one wants of any food occasionally doesn't have any negative effect,
not uless it's someone with an illness, like say diebetes.

Actually consuming a one pound baked potato every day would be an
excellent way to control one's urges to pig out on fatty/sugary
desserts... a pound of baked potato is much more healthful than a
pound of ice cream and cake.

Normal brained folks don't need any stinkin nutritionist, if you lead
a sedentary life style, like sitting behind a desk all day, you know
how much to eat, just like farm workers know what size portions they
can eat.... really all the portion control one needs is a bathroom
scale.

On Thu, 15 May 2008 15:07:54 GMT, "James Silverton"
> wrote:

>Hello All!
>
>Today, I used some Campbell's French Onion Soup. The ingredient
>list indicated "about 2.5 servings". Why would any want to serve
>half a person or is it just a way to reduce the amounts of fat
>or salt listed?

the half-serving is for short people.

your pal,
blake

On May 15, 2:09�pm, "Ms P" > wrote:
> "James Silverton" > wrote in message
>
> news:kg_Wj.17867$%X1.3381@trnddc08...
>
>
>
>
>
> > Ms �wrote �on Thu, 15 May 2008 12:11:30 -0500:
>
> >> It's because most people don't have the slightest grasp of
> >> what a serving means. �It does not mean whatever amount is in your bowl
> >> or on your plate. Servings are a very specific size.
> >> Just because something is called a "serving size" does not
> >> mean you can't have more than one serving at a meal. How else do you
> >> think you're going to get 6 to 11 servings of grains, 3
> >> to 5 of vegetables and 2 to 4 of fruit plus the 2 to 3
> >> servings of meat and and 2 to 3 servings of dairy per day?
>
> > You are just too kind and forgiving!
>
> LOL, sorry, it's actually one of my pet peeves. � It's also why people > are getting fatter and fatter.

What claptrap... there are more fat people because there are MORE
people... people have always been fat, just that it's studied more and
more now... people eat too much is how they get fat, same as how
people drink too much, they booze and pig out on the sneak, neither
give's a rat's b-hind about serving size, they eat and drink to
oblivion regardless.

The thing is that now scientists have discovered the mechanics of
addictions how the brain knows the body is sated... these anomolies
will soon be a thing of the past.

On Thu, 15 May 2008 11:19:37 -0500, "Pete C." >
wrote:

>
>jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> James Silverton wrote:
>> > Hello All!
>> >
>> > Today, I used some Campbell's French Onion Soup. The ingredient
>> > list indicated "about 2.5 servings". Why would any want to serve
>> > half a person or is it just a way to reduce the amounts of fat
>> > or salt listed?
>>
>> Serving sizes are probably regulated by someone, somehow, for some obscure
>> reason. It always kills me to see what you describe. Like what, you're
>> going to feed two adults and a small child from that can of soup?
>>
>> What says "serves 4" means serves 2, at least in my world. My serving size
>> isn't generally 5 tablespoonfuls of whatever.
>>
>> Wouldn't it be funny if they started marking vegetables this way? Oh no,
>> sorry, that big honkin' baked potato serves 4!
>>
>> Jill
>
>Yea, I seem to recall that the government standard bagel is about 1/6
>the size of what anyone would consider a normal bagel (in the US at
>least).

you seem to recall there are government standards for bagels? what
else do you seem to recall?

they may analyze one size to give nutrition:

A. Let us assume that you get the biggest plain, enriched bagel
analyzed by the United States Department of Agriculture, 4 1/2 inches
in diameter, weighing 110 grams, about 3.8 ounces.

<http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D05E3DD133EF931A25755C0A9679C8B 63>

....but i don't think 'the government' is into regulating bagels.

but by all means, continue to 'seem to recall' whatever gibberish you
wish.

your pal,
blake

On Thu, 15 May 2008 15:17:58 -0500, "Pete C." >
wrote:

>
>Ms P wrote:
>>
>> "kilikini" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > jmcquown wrote:
>> >> Pete C. wrote:
>> >>> jmcquown wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> What says "serves 4" means serves 2, at least in my world. My
>> >>>> serving size isn't generally 5 tablespoonfuls of whatever.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Wouldn't it be funny if they started marking vegetables this way?
>> >>>> Oh no, sorry, that big honkin' baked potato serves 4!
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Jill
>> >>>
>> >>> Yea, I seem to recall that the government standard bagel is about 1/6
>> >>> the size of what anyone would consider a normal bagel (in the US at
>> >>> least).
>> >>
>> >> God forbid I should eat an entire biscuit, then! LOL
>> >
>> > Oh, no, you must only have half and dunk it into a thimble-sized rameken
>> > of soup. :~)
>> >
>> > kili
>>
>> Why do people think that you can only have one serving of anything and that
>> serving must be however much they want to put on their plate? It's no
>> wonder people in this country are getting so fat.
>>
>> A biscuit is probably two servings of bread. A bowl of soup is probably two
>> servings. You are ALLOWED to have more than ONE serving!!!
>>
>> Ms P
>
>I'm also allowed to define what I consider a serving, and tell the
>government and other serving size nazis to **** off.

oh noes!!!! the government jackboots are coming to seize your
oversize bagels!!!! lock and load, people!!!

your pal,
blake

On Thu, 15 May 2008 17:17:31 -0400, Goomba38 >
wrote:

>James Silverton wrote:
>
>> I'll just add that my favorite Pho restaurant has two sizes: "regular"
>> and "large". If you don't share the large you might as well resign
>> yourself to napping after lunch!
>>
>I don't drink coffee, and rarely go into Starbucks for a cup of tea. I
>sit there baffled by the size selection- large? grande? venti? HUH?

and you call yourself italian.

your pal,
blake

blake murphy wrote:
> On Thu, 15 May 2008 17:17:31 -0400, Goomba38 >
> wrote:
>
>> James Silverton wrote:
>>
>>> I'll just add that my favorite Pho restaurant has two sizes: "regular"
>>> and "large". If you don't share the large you might as well resign
>>> yourself to napping after lunch!
>>>
>> I don't drink coffee, and rarely go into Starbucks for a cup of tea. I
>> sit there baffled by the size selection- large? grande? venti? HUH?
>
> and you call yourself italian.
>
> your pal,
> blake

alas my Italian sucks.
Sometimes all I want is a small cup of tea.
I'd be ecstatic if it could even come in a porcelain or china cup or mug
instead of paper cups.
Goomba, destined to be disappointed in Starbucks hot tea <sigh>

On Thu, 15 May 2008 22:09:25 -0500, "Ms P" >
wrote:

>
>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
>> kilikini wrote:
>>> Ms P wrote:
>>>> No wonder the country gets fatter every day.
>>>>
>>>> Ms P
>>>
>>> I'd eat half the potato, take the other half home and call it a day.
>>> :~)
>>>
>>> kili
>>
>> I can barely eat the potato, forget about the bread basket. Mrs.P is
>> projecting her fat self on everyone else.
>>
>> Jill
>>
>
>Wrong. Apparently I'm the only one that understands what servings are and
>how many servings you should have in one day.
>
>Go to any nutritionist and get an education.
>
>Ms P

i think jill is projecting her stupid self on everyone else.

your pal,
blake

"Goomba38" > wrote in message
. ..
>
> alas my Italian sucks.
> Sometimes all I want is a small cup of tea.
> I'd be ecstatic if it could even come in a porcelain or china cup or mug
> instead of paper cups.
> Goomba, destined to be disappointed in Starbucks hot tea <sigh>

There's a place in Denver that has the biggest tea selection I've ever seen.
If I remember right it's on 18th a block from the train station in downtown,

I had iced peach and it was really good. It came in a plastic cup of
course. I was there during the summer but I think they had the whole
selection hot too.

Ms P

In article >,
"Pete C." > wrote:


> I'm not sure how many people actually look at that "servings" stuff.
> Most look at the daily value numbers on the nutrition information. I
> know I've never looked at "servings" recommendations since they are not
> meaningful without a lot of digging for more information and wasting my
> time.

If you are on a strict diet, you have to do the math either way. Many
find it easier to figure out how many portions they ate, and multiply
that times whatever they are controlling.

For instance, if you want to keep your carbs for lunch to 45g, and the
mac'n'cheese has 15g per portion, then two portions plus a small piece
of fruit gives you lunch.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA