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![]() Just out of curiosity, I checked the egg section when I was buying some today at the supermarket, for *grades*. I found that everything was marked Grade AA with two exceptions. Those exceptions we 1. Jumbos of the same brand that was by far the most prevalent on the shelves were Grade A while all of their other sizes were Grade AA 2. One brand of marked-organic XLG and LG eggs - and I think that were the only sizes available from that brand - were Grade A. I did not see any jumbos by any other supplier than the one mentioned above (Trafficanda Ranch). So there were no AA jumbos available. While this is a tiny sampling, I'm still wondering of there is something about jumbos that make them inherently Grade A. I don't care what I eat, between AA and A; this is just a curiosity thing. -- Blinky Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project --> http://improve-usenet.org Found 5/08: a free GG-blocking news *feed* --> http://usenet4all.se |
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Blinky wrote:
> Just out of curiosity, I checked the egg section when I was buying some > today at the supermarket, for *grades*. �I found that everything was > marked Grade AA with two exceptions. �Those exceptions we > > 1. Jumbos of the same brand that was by far the most prevalent on the > shelves were Grade A while all of their other sizes were Grade AA > > 2. One brand of marked-organic XLG and LG eggs - and I think that were the > only sizes available from that brand - were Grade A. > > I did not see any jumbos by any other supplier than the one mentioned > above (Trafficanda Ranch). �So there were no AA jumbos available. �While > this is a tiny sampling, I'm still wondering of there is something about > jumbos that make them inherently Grade A. �I don't care what I eat, > between AA and A; this is just a curiosity thing. http://www.aeb.org/LearnMore/EggFacts.htm#grading --- |
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On Thu, 05 Jun 2008 11:52:56 -0700, Blinky the Shark
> wrote: >... While >this is a tiny sampling, I'm still wondering of there is something about >jumbos that make them inherently Grade A. I don't care what I eat, >between AA and A; this is just a curiosity thing. Yolk Quality Outline Slightly Defined - A yolk outline that is indistinctly indicated and appears to blend into the surrounding white as the egg is twirled.(AA Quality). Outline Fairly Well Defined - A yolk outline that is discernible but not clearly outlined as the egg is twirled.(A Quality). White Quality Firm - A white that is sufficiently thick or viscous to prevent the yolk outline from being more than slightly defined or indistinctly indicated when the egg is twirled. (AA Quality). Reasonably Firm - A white that is somewhat less thick or viscous than a firm white. A reasonably firm white permits the yolk to approach the shell more closely, which results in a fairly well defined yolk outline when the egg is twirled.(A Quality). |
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Robert Klute wrote:
> On Thu, 05 Jun 2008 11:52:56 -0700, Blinky the Shark > > wrote: > >>... While >>this is a tiny sampling, I'm still wondering of there is something about >>jumbos that make them inherently Grade A. I don't care what I eat, >>between AA and A; this is just a curiosity thing. > > > Yolk Quality > Outline Slightly Defined - A yolk outline that is indistinctly indicated > and appears to blend into the surrounding white as the egg is twirled.(AA > Quality). > > Outline Fairly Well Defined - A yolk outline that is discernible but not > clearly outlined as the egg is twirled.(A Quality). > > > White Quality > Firm - A white that is sufficiently thick or viscous to prevent the yolk > outline from being more than slightly defined or indistinctly indicated > when the egg is twirled. (AA Quality). > > Reasonably Firm - A white that is somewhat less thick or viscous than a > firm white. A reasonably firm white permits the yolk to approach the shell > more closely, which results in a fairly well defined yolk outline when the > egg is twirled.(A Quality). I know. My question was "I'm still wondering if there is something about jumbos that make them inherently Grade A", not "what are the easily-Googleable differences between the rating characteristics. ![]() Thanks for the effort, though. -- Blinky Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project --> http://improve-usenet.org Found 5/08: a free GG-blocking news *feed* --> http://usenet4all.se |
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Blinky the Shark > wrote: > Robert Klute wrote: > > > On Thu, 05 Jun 2008 11:52:56 -0700, Blinky the Shark > > > wrote: > > > >>... While > >>this is a tiny sampling, I'm still wondering of there is something about > >>jumbos that make them inherently Grade A. I don't care what I eat, > >>between AA and A; this is just a curiosity thing. > > > > > > Yolk Quality > > Outline Slightly Defined - A yolk outline that is indistinctly indicated > > and appears to blend into the surrounding white as the egg is twirled.(AA > > Quality). > > > > Outline Fairly Well Defined - A yolk outline that is discernible but not > > clearly outlined as the egg is twirled.(A Quality). > > > > > > White Quality > > Firm - A white that is sufficiently thick or viscous to prevent the yolk > > outline from being more than slightly defined or indistinctly indicated > > when the egg is twirled. (AA Quality). > > > > Reasonably Firm - A white that is somewhat less thick or viscous than a > > firm white. A reasonably firm white permits the yolk to approach the shell > > more closely, which results in a fairly well defined yolk outline when the > > egg is twirled.(A Quality). > > I know. My question was "I'm still wondering if there is something about > jumbos that make them inherently Grade A", not "what are the > easily-Googleable differences between the rating characteristics. ![]() > Thanks for the effort, though. Check with the store's dairy manager and also try searching the web. I imagine you might also find some info at the USDA web site. |
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On Thu, 05 Jun 2008 18:29:40 -0700, Blinky the Shark
> wrote: >I know. My question was "I'm still wondering if there is something about >jumbos that make them inherently Grade A", not "what are the >easily-Googleable differences between the rating characteristics. ![]() >Thanks for the effort, though. Ah, then my guess would be that Jumbo eggs are mor likely to have an air cell exceeding 1/8 inch in depth - the limit for Grade AA. Grade A eggs can have an air gap up to 3/16 inch. It takes about one week for Grade AA eggs to degrade to Grade A when properly stored, in the carton and in the refrigerator. It then takes another 5 weeks to degrade from Grade A to Grade B. Only the egg will slow the degradation. |
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On Thu, 05 Jun 2008 16:45:43 -0700, Robert Klute >
wrote: >On Thu, 05 Jun 2008 11:52:56 -0700, Blinky the Shark > wrote: > >>... While >>this is a tiny sampling, I'm still wondering of there is something about >>jumbos that make them inherently Grade A. I don't care what I eat, >>between AA and A; this is just a curiosity thing. > what the hell does 'when the egg is twirled' mean? spun and then cracked open for inspection? your pal, blake |
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blake murphy > wrote in
: > On Thu, 05 Jun 2008 16:45:43 -0700, Robert Klute > > wrote: > >>On Thu, 05 Jun 2008 11:52:56 -0700, Blinky the Shark > wrote: >> >>>... While >>>this is a tiny sampling, I'm still wondering of there is >>>something about jumbos that make them inherently Grade A. >>>I don't care what I eat, between AA and A; this is just a >>>curiosity thing. >> > > what the hell does 'when the egg is twirled' mean? spun > and then cracked open for inspection? no, spun in front of a candling light. candling is useful if you have roosters & don't know how old those eggs are you just found behind the propane tank ![]() avoids the 'ewwww!' factor. lee -- Last night while sitting in my chair I pinged a host that wasn't there It wasn't there again today The host resolved to NSA. |
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![]() > no, spun in front of a candling light. > candling is useful if you have roosters & don't know how old > those eggs are you just found behind the propane tank ![]() > avoids the 'ewwww!' factor. > lee For those eggs behind the propane tank, though, all you have to do is see what they'll do in a glass of water. LOL. The ones that float are the ones you can throw at your brother. N. |
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On Fri, 06 Jun 2008 17:32:41 GMT, blake murphy
> wrote: >On Thu, 05 Jun 2008 16:45:43 -0700, Robert Klute > >wrote: > >>On Thu, 05 Jun 2008 11:52:56 -0700, Blinky the Shark > wrote: >> >>>... While >>>this is a tiny sampling, I'm still wondering of there is something about >>>jumbos that make them inherently Grade A. I don't care what I eat, >>>between AA and A; this is just a curiosity thing. >> > >what the hell does 'when the egg is twirled' mean? spun and then >cracked open for inspection? When eggs are twirled before the candling light, the yolk swings toward the shell. The distinctness of the yolk outline depends on how close to the shell the yolk moves, which is, in turn, influenced by the thickness of the surrounding albumen. Thick albumen permits limited yolk movement while thin albumen permits greater movement. The USDA Egg Grading Manual - all you never wanted to know about grading eggs: http://www.ams.usda.gov/AMSv1.0/getf...STELDEV3004502 |
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Nancy2 > wrote in
oups.com: > >> no, spun in front of a candling light. >> candling is useful if you have roosters & don't know how >> old >> those eggs are you just found behind the propane tank ![]() >> avoids the 'ewwww!' factor. >> lee > > For those eggs behind the propane tank, though, all you > have to do is see what they'll do in a glass of water. > LOL. well, yes & no. developing chicks don't necessarily float more than an egg that's a few days old. > The ones that float are the ones you can throw at your > brother. they're also loads of fun to shoot with a pellet gun. lee -- Last night while sitting in my chair I pinged a host that wasn't there It wasn't there again today The host resolved to NSA. |
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Robert Klute wrote:
> On Thu, 05 Jun 2008 18:29:40 -0700, Blinky the Shark > > wrote: > > >>I know. My question was "I'm still wondering if there is something about >>jumbos that make them inherently Grade A", not "what are the >>easily-Googleable differences between the rating characteristics. ![]() >>Thanks for the effort, though. > > Ah, then my guess would be that Jumbo eggs are mor likely to have an air > cell exceeding 1/8 inch in depth - the limit for Grade AA. Grade A eggs > can have an air gap up to 3/16 inch. That sounds like a possibility. Thanks. > It takes about one week for Grade AA eggs to degrade to Grade A when > properly stored, in the carton and in the refrigerator. It then takes > another 5 weeks to degrade from Grade A to Grade B. Only the egg will > slow the degradation. I'm not sure what your last sentence means. Help? -- Blinky Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project --> http://improve-usenet.org Found 5/08: a free GG-blocking news *feed* --> http://usenet4all.se |
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Robert Klute wrote:
> On Fri, 06 Jun 2008 17:32:41 GMT, blake murphy > > wrote: > >>On Thu, 05 Jun 2008 16:45:43 -0700, Robert Klute > >>wrote: >> >>>On Thu, 05 Jun 2008 11:52:56 -0700, Blinky the Shark > wrote: >>> >>>>... While >>>>this is a tiny sampling, I'm still wondering of there is something >>>>about jumbos that make them inherently Grade A. I don't care what I >>>>eat, between AA and A; this is just a curiosity thing. >>> >>> >>what the hell does 'when the egg is twirled' mean? spun and then cracked >>open for inspection? > > > When eggs are twirled before the candling light, the yolk swings toward > the shell. The distinctness of the yolk outline depends on how close to > the shell the yolk moves, which is, in turn, influenced by the thickness > of the surrounding albumen. Thick albumen permits limited yolk movement > while thin albumen permits greater movement. You, Robert, are without doubt The Eggman. John was wrong. -- Blinky Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project --> http://improve-usenet.org Found 5/08: a free GG-blocking news *feed* --> http://usenet4all.se |
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Blinky the Shark > wrote:
> I know. My question was "I'm still wondering if there is something about > jumbos that make them inherently Grade A", not "what are the > easily-Googleable differences between the rating characteristics. ![]() > Thanks for the effort, though. The Jumbo and XL Grade AA's are used for high-end breakfast restaurants (hotels) as they are more presentable when cooked and less prone to yolk breakage. -sw |
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On Fri, 06 Jun 2008 13:44:59 -0700, Robert Klute >
wrote: >On Fri, 06 Jun 2008 17:32:41 GMT, blake murphy > wrote: > >>On Thu, 05 Jun 2008 16:45:43 -0700, Robert Klute > >>wrote: >> >>>On Thu, 05 Jun 2008 11:52:56 -0700, Blinky the Shark > wrote: >>> >>>>... While >>>>this is a tiny sampling, I'm still wondering of there is something about >>>>jumbos that make them inherently Grade A. I don't care what I eat, >>>>between AA and A; this is just a curiosity thing. >>> >> >>what the hell does 'when the egg is twirled' mean? spun and then >>cracked open for inspection? > > >When eggs are twirled before the candling light, the yolk swings toward >the shell. The distinctness of the yolk outline depends on how close to >the shell the yolk moves, which is, in turn, influenced by the thickness >of the surrounding albumen. Thick albumen permits limited yolk movement >while thin albumen permits greater movement. > >The USDA Egg Grading Manual - all you never wanted to know about grading >eggs: >http://www.ams.usda.gov/AMSv1.0/getf...STELDEV3004502 thank you, robert and lee. your pal, blake |
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On Fri, 06 Jun 2008 16:06:48 -0700, Blinky the Shark
> wrote: >Robert Klute wrote: >> It takes about one week for Grade AA eggs to degrade to Grade A when >> properly stored, in the carton and in the refrigerator. It then takes >> another 5 weeks to degrade from Grade A to Grade B. Only the egg will >> slow the degradation. > >I'm not sure what your last sentence means. Help? Brain/editing f*rt. Oiling the egg will slow degradation. In the US eggs are washed and the natural cuticle is removed. Putting a light coating of edible mineral oil on the egg to replace the cuticle is permitted by the USDA, but it is not required. In Europe, grade A eggs are not washed, only grade B eggs can be washed. |
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Robert Klute wrote:
> On Fri, 06 Jun 2008 16:06:48 -0700, Blinky the Shark > > wrote: > >>Robert Klute wrote: > >>> It takes about one week for Grade AA eggs to degrade to Grade A when >>> properly stored, in the carton and in the refrigerator. It then takes >>> another 5 weeks to degrade from Grade A to Grade B. Only the egg will >>> slow the degradation. >> >>I'm not sure what your last sentence means. Help? > > Brain/editing f*rt. Oiling the egg will slow degradation. In the US eggs > are washed and the natural cuticle is removed. Putting a light coating of > edible mineral oil on the egg to replace the cuticle is permitted by the > USDA, but it is not required. In Europe, grade A eggs are not washed, > only grade B eggs can be washed. Ah! Thanks. -- Blinky Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project --> http://improve-usenet.org Found 5/08: a free GG-blocking news *feed* --> http://usenet4all.se |
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