I'm trying it out. It's pretty good so far. Nice, user-friendly
interface, high functionality.
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

cybercat wrote:
> I'm trying it out. It's pretty good so far. Nice, user-friendly
> interface, high functionality.
> ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

I've used it for about a year since Netscape shut down. It works great!

-dk

On 2008-06-08, cybercat > wrote:
> I'm trying it out. It's pretty good so far. Nice, user-friendly
> interface, high functionality.
> ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

.....and less load on cpu. You'll find many of the same FF plug-ins work,
too (nosript, flash, vlc, etc).

nb

cybercat > wrote:

> I'm trying it out. It's pretty good so far. Nice, user-friendly
> interface, high functionality.
> ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

The addons and extensions are what make it so versatile (though
finding working versions is a little hard until version 2.x).

-sw

notbob > wrote:

> On 2008-06-08, cybercat > wrote:
>> I'm trying it out. It's pretty good so far. Nice, user-friendly
>> interface, high functionality.
>> ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
>
> ....and less load on cpu. You'll find many of the same FF plug-ins work,
> too (nosript, flash, vlc, etc).

I *have* to use IE7 at work and it bugs the shit out of me. IE7 is
a klunky, brain-dead POS compared to SM (and firefox).

-sw

cybercat wrote:
> I'm trying it out. It's pretty good so far. Nice, user-friendly
> interface, high functionality.
> ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

Good to hear, since when I have my new PC, I want to try that. Is it at
all like the old Netscape was?

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"Jean B." > wrote in message
...
> cybercat wrote:
>> I'm trying it out. It's pretty good so far. Nice, user-friendly
>> interface, high functionality.
>> ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
>
> Good to hear, since when I have my new PC, I want to try that. Is it at
> all like the old Netscape was?
>

A little bit like a cross between Netscape and OE at first glance. I like
it.

Jean B. wrote:

> cybercat wrote:
>> I'm trying it out. It's pretty good so far. Nice, user-friendly
>> interface, high functionality.
>> ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
>
> Good to hear, since when I have my new PC, I want to try that. Is it at
> all like the old Netscape was?

It's basically Firefox and Thunderbird, cojoined for some obscure reason.


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On 2008-06-10, Blinky the Shark > wrote:

> It's basically Firefox and Thunderbird, cojoined for some obscure reason.

.....but without the crippling overhead and reduced control. What happened
to the tools > cookie manager? What? You're too stupid to be in control of
cookies?

nb

notbob wrote:

> On 2008-06-10, Blinky the Shark > wrote:
>
> > It's basically Firefox and Thunderbird, cojoined for some obscure
> > reason.

Nothing obscure about it; some people like it that way.

> ....but without the crippling overhead and reduced control. What
> happened to the tools > cookie manager? What? You're too stupid to
> be in control of cookies?
>
> nb



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On 2008-06-10, Dan Goodman > wrote:

> Nothing obscure about it; some people like it that way.

Bingo!

Blinky the Shark wrote:
> Jean B. wrote:
>
>> cybercat wrote:
>>> I'm trying it out. It's pretty good so far. Nice, user-friendly
>>> interface, high functionality.
>>> ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
>> Good to hear, since when I have my new PC, I want to try that. Is it at
>> all like the old Netscape was?
>
> It's basically Firefox and Thunderbird, cojoined for some obscure reason.
>
>
That's what I understood. It's the replacement for the old Mozilla Suite
which was a combo browser and e-mail/newsreader program.

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notbob wrote:

> On 2008-06-10, Dan Goodman > wrote:
>
>> Nothing obscure about it; some people like it that way.
>
> Bingo!

And some people would probably like a toaster that's also a vacuum
cleaner.


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On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 01:35:40 -0700, Blinky the Shark
> wrote:

>notbob wrote:
>
>> On 2008-06-10, Dan Goodman > wrote:
>>
>>> Nothing obscure about it; some people like it that way.
>>
>> Bingo!
>
>And some people would probably like a toaster that's also a vacuum
>cleaner.

Minimalists for starters. Nice clean lines....

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cybercat wrote:
> "Jean B." > wrote in message
> ...
>> cybercat wrote:
>>> I'm trying it out. It's pretty good so far. Nice, user-friendly
>>> interface, high functionality.
>>> ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
>> Good to hear, since when I have my new PC, I want to try that. Is it at
>> all like the old Netscape was?
>>
>
> A little bit like a cross between Netscape and OE at first glance. I like
> it.
>
>
Not so sure about the OE part. Still, I'll give it a try. Do I recall
correctly that it is a suite, and thus includes a newsreader?

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Blinky the Shark wrote:
> Jean B. wrote:
>
>> cybercat wrote:
>>> I'm trying it out. It's pretty good so far. Nice, user-friendly
>>> interface, high functionality.
>>> ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
>> Good to hear, since when I have my new PC, I want to try that. Is it at
>> all like the old Netscape was?
>
> It's basically Firefox and Thunderbird, cojoined for some obscure reason.
>
>
I guess I'd have to see whether there's any advantage to them then,
since I am currently using Firefox and Thunderbird. I MISS the old
Netscape.

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notbob wrote:
> On 2008-06-10, Blinky the Shark > wrote:
>
>> It's basically Firefox and Thunderbird, cojoined for some obscure reason.
>
> ....but without the crippling overhead and reduced control. What happened
> to the tools > cookie manager? What? You're too stupid to be in control of
> cookies?
>
> nb

What lacks the cookie manager? I rather like that. Of course, I can
use cookie pal, if it still functions.

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"Jean B." > wrote in message
...
> notbob wrote:
>> On 2008-06-10, Blinky the Shark > wrote:
>>
>>> It's basically Firefox and Thunderbird, cojoined for some obscure
>>> reason.
>>
>> ....but without the crippling overhead and reduced control. What
>> happened
>> to the tools > cookie manager? What? You're too stupid to be in control
>> of
>> cookies? nb
>
> What lacks the cookie manager? I rather like that. Of course, I can use
> cookie pal, if it still functions.
>
> --

Cookie Pal! Does he wear a little hat and gloves and a big smile and bring
you cookies whenever you need them????

"Jean B." > wrote:>>
>>
> Not so sure about the OE part. Still, I'll give it a try. Do I recall
> correctly that it is a suite, and thus includes a newsreader?
>

What is "OE" like about it is, you can have your newsgroups and your
mail in the same interface.

cybercat wrote:
> "Jean B." > wrote in message
> ...
>> notbob wrote:
>>> On 2008-06-10, Blinky the Shark > wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's basically Firefox and Thunderbird, cojoined for some obscure
>>>> reason.
>>> ....but without the crippling overhead and reduced control. What
>>> happened
>>> to the tools > cookie manager? What? You're too stupid to be in control
>>> of
>>> cookies? nb
>> What lacks the cookie manager? I rather like that. Of course, I can use
>> cookie pal, if it still functions.
>>
>> --
>
> Cookie Pal! Does he wear a little hat and gloves and a big smile and bring
> you cookies whenever you need them????
>
>
Haha. No, but the silly icon looks like it is gobbling cookies. Or
something.

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cybercat wrote:
> "Jean B." > wrote:>>
>> Not so sure about the OE part. Still, I'll give it a try. Do I recall
>> correctly that it is a suite, and thus includes a newsreader?
>>
>
> What is "OE" like about it is, you can have your newsgroups and your
> mail in the same interface.
>
>
Oh, like the ?communicator? part of netscape.

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On 2008-06-10, Janet Wilder > wrote:

> That's what I understood. It's the replacement for the old Mozilla Suite

Not a replacement, it IS the old mozilla suite. They just changed the name
because debian had issues with it not being "pure" open source or something
to that effect. FF also has a renamed version, Iceweasel, for the same reason.
Minor trademark issues. Seamonkey (mozilla) decided to do their own thing
cuz FF was getting too far afield of the original intent of mozilla, which
evolved from netscape, which is no longer supported. Got that? Me neither!

nb

Jean B. wrote:
> notbob wrote:
>> On 2008-06-10, Blinky the Shark > wrote:
>>
>>> It's basically Firefox and Thunderbird, cojoined for some obscure
>>> reason.
>>
>> ....but without the crippling overhead and reduced control. What
>> happened
>> to the tools > cookie manager? What? You're too stupid to be in
>> control of
>> cookies?
>> nb
>
> What lacks the cookie manager? I rather like that. Of course, I can
> use cookie pal, if it still functions.
>

Just click Edit->Preferences->Privacy & Security->Cookies. On the lower
right is a "Manage Cookies" button.

Jean B. wrote:

> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>> Jean B. wrote:
>>
>>> cybercat wrote:
>>>> I'm trying it out. It's pretty good so far. Nice, user-friendly
>>>> interface, high functionality.
>>>> ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
>>> Good to hear, since when I have my new PC, I want to try that. Is it
>>> at all like the old Netscape was?
>>
>> It's basically Firefox and Thunderbird, cojoined for some obscure
>> reason.
>>
> I guess I'd have to see whether there's any advantage to them then, since
> I am currently using Firefox and Thunderbird. I MISS the old Netscape.

Nope.

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wrote:

> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 01:35:40 -0700, Blinky the Shark >
> wrote:
>
>>notbob wrote:
>>
>>> On 2008-06-10, Dan Goodman > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Nothing obscure about it; some people like it that way.
>>>
>>> Bingo!
>>
>>And some people would probably like a toaster that's also a vacuum
>>cleaner.
>
> Minimalists for starters. Nice clean lines....

Mimimalists do stand-alone programs, not bolted-together "suites".


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"Jean B." wrote:

>
> >
> I guess I'd have to see whether there's any advantage to them then,
> since I am currently using Firefox and Thunderbird. I MISS the old
> Netscape.
>
>

I tried it. The browser locked up on me. The new reader is just like Firefox,
which is similar to Netscape Communicator but lacks the reference for following
threads back. I am sticking with Netscape for news groups.

Ed Rinehart wrote:
> Jean B. wrote:
>> notbob wrote:
>>> On 2008-06-10, Blinky the Shark > wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's basically Firefox and Thunderbird, cojoined for some obscure
>>>> reason.
>>>
>>> ....but without the crippling overhead and reduced control. What
>>> happened
>>> to the tools > cookie manager? What? You're too stupid to be in
>>> control of
>>> cookies? nb
>>
>> What lacks the cookie manager? I rather like that. Of course, I can
>> use cookie pal, if it still functions.
>>
>
> Just click Edit->Preferences->Privacy & Security->Cookies. On the lower
> right is a "Manage Cookies" button.
>
That's familiar. I don't know what the above comment pertained to then.

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Blinky the Shark wrote:
> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 01:35:40 -0700, Blinky the Shark >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> notbob wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2008-06-10, Dan Goodman > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Nothing obscure about it; some people like it that way.
>>>> Bingo!
>>> And some people would probably like a toaster that's also a vacuum
>>> cleaner.
>> Minimalists for starters. Nice clean lines....
>
> Mimimalists do stand-alone programs, not bolted-together "suites".
>
>
Ah, but the old Netscape was just lovely. I forget which one I really
liked. It was before the 7.2 that I used more recently, which had a
separate Navigator component.

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Dave Smith wrote:

> "Jean B." wrote:
>
> >
> > >
> > I guess I'd have to see whether there's any advantage to them then,
> > since I am currently using Firefox and Thunderbird. I MISS the old
> > Netscape.
> >
> >
>
> I tried it. The browser locked up on me. The new reader is just like
> Firefox, which is similar to Netscape Communicator but lacks the
> reference for following threads back.

You mean the clickable references? I did like that about NS.

I'm not using any of the products now, because they just don't have
powerful enough filtering for today's wacky usenet.




Brian

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"Jean B." > wrote:
>>
> Ah, but the old Netscape was just lovely. I forget which one I really
> liked. It was before the 7.2 that I used more recently, which had a
> separate Navigator component.

This is when I stopped using Netscape.

cybercat > wrote:

> Cookie Pal! Does he wear a little hat and gloves and a big smile and bring
> you cookies whenever you need them????

'Cookie Pal' comes rushing in through the brick wall right after the
"Hey - Kool Aid!" cry.

-sw

Default User > wrote:

> You mean the clickable references? I did like that about NS.
>
> I'm not using any of the products now, because they just don't have
> powerful enough filtering for today's wacky usenet.

I only use Seamonkey for browsing and IMAP mail. The IMAP
implementation is the most complete and bug-free out there. And the
browser is miles ahead of IE, even without SM's bells and whistles.

I use other things for news. Mozilla for news has always sucked.

-sw

On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:12:45 -0700, Blinky the Shark
> wrote:

> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 01:35:40 -0700, Blinky the Shark >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>notbob wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2008-06-10, Dan Goodman > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Nothing obscure about it; some people like it that way.
>>>>
>>>> Bingo!
>>>
>>>And some people would probably like a toaster that's also a vacuum
>>>cleaner.
>>
>> Minimalists for starters. Nice clean lines....
>
>Mimimalists do stand-alone programs, not bolted-together "suites".

Hey, when did this get turned back to Netscape? I like the
vacuum/toaster idea and it would not be bolted together in my design.
Just plug it in and flip a switch.

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Dave Smith wrote:

> "Jean B." wrote:
>
>
>>
>> I guess I'd have to see whether there's any advantage to them then,
>> since I am currently using Firefox and Thunderbird. I MISS the old
>> Netscape.
>>
>>
>>
> I tried it. The browser locked up on me. The new reader is just like
> Firefox, which is similar to Netscape Communicator but lacks the reference
> for following threads back. I am sticking with Netscape for news groups.

The new reader is just like Firefox?

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"Blinky the Shark" > wrote in message
news
> Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> "Jean B." wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> I guess I'd have to see whether there's any advantage to them then,
>>> since I am currently using Firefox and Thunderbird. I MISS the old
>>> Netscape.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> I tried it. The browser locked up on me. The new reader is just like
>> Firefox, which is similar to Netscape Communicator but lacks the
>> reference
>> for following threads back. I am sticking with Netscape for news groups.
>
> The new reader is just like Firefox?
>
No it isn't. Not at all.

cybercat wrote:
> "Blinky the Shark" > wrote in message
> news
>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>>> "Jean B." wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> I guess I'd have to see whether there's any advantage to them then,
>>>> since I am currently using Firefox and Thunderbird. I MISS the old
>>>> Netscape.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I tried it. The browser locked up on me. The new reader is just like
>>> Firefox, which is similar to Netscape Communicator but lacks the
>>> reference
>>> for following threads back. I am sticking with Netscape for news groups.
>> The new reader is just like Firefox?
>>
> No it isn't. Not at all.
>
>
Good. I was gonna say... NS 9 might just as well be FF, so why use it?
Same would be true of Seamonkey if that were the case. FF is fine--IF
that is what you want to use, and I am currently using it but missing
the old NS. (I am just waiting for my new PC to come ere I try Seamonkey.)

Now, if someone would just report on Penelope.... Oddly enough, will I
did use NS for browsing and NGs, I never used it for email....

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On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:57:51 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:

> NS 9 might just as well be FF, so why use it?

FF is browser only, which is supposed to be "lighter" than NS. If you
want a suite, install NS... if you want personal choice, install FF.

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"Jean B." > wrote >>
> Good. I was gonna say... NS 9 might just as well be FF, so why use it?
> Same would be true of Seamonkey if that were the case. FF is fine--IF
> that is what you want to use, and I am currently using it but missing the
> old NS. (I am just waiting for my new PC to come ere I try Seamonkey.)

I think you'll like it. It feels "natural," as far as the way it functions.
I will always
use IE most of the time, simply because most web sites are designed to
function
with it.

>
> Now, if someone would just report on Penelope.... Oddly enough, will I
> did use NS for browsing and NGs, I never used it for email....

I am hooked on having both news and mail in the same interface.

A LOT of our opinions on these issues have to do with what we started
out on.

I began with Netscape and went to IE when NS got too weird and ungainly.

I.E 7 is, to me, buggy and odd, but most pages still function best when
viewed
with it.

I utterly loathe Thunderbird, which is Firefox's news reader.

On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:32:49 -0700, sf <.> wrote:

>On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:12:45 -0700, Blinky the Shark
> wrote:
>
>>
>>Mimimalists do stand-alone programs, not bolted-together "suites".
>
>Hey, when did this get turned back to Netscape? I like the
>vacuum/toaster idea and it would not be bolted together in my design.
>Just plug it in and flip a switch.

the old 'plug 'n' pray.'

your pal,
blake

sf wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:57:51 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:
>
>> NS 9 might just as well be FF, so why use it?
>
> FF is browser only, which is supposed to be "lighter" than NS. If you
> want a suite, install NS... if you want personal choice, install FF.
>
As I said, I am currently using Firefox, but I will try to use the old
Netscape and also try Seamonkey when I get my new PC.

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