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![]() "Sqwertz" > wrote >> >> http://www.maxwellchase.com/ProdFruitVeg.php > > "Significantly extends shelf life e.g. 14 days on sliced tomatoes, > 20 days on diced tomatoes" > > Who the hell buys pre-sliced and pre-diced tomatoes? And who would want to keep watermelon for two weeks? > > The same people that buy pre-cut watermelon, I guess <ducking>. It just looked really good and I wanted it NOW. It was $8, doesn't that suck? |
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![]() cybercat wrote: > > "Sqwertz" > wrote >> > >> http://www.maxwellchase.com/ProdFruitVeg.php > > > > "Significantly extends shelf life e.g. 14 days on sliced tomatoes, > > 20 days on diced tomatoes" > > > > Who the hell buys pre-sliced and pre-diced tomatoes? > > And who would want to keep watermelon for two weeks? > > > > > The same people that buy pre-cut watermelon, I guess <ducking>. > > It just looked really good and I wanted it NOW. It was $8, doesn't > that suck? > > I don't know, too many folks seem to get wrapped up around the axle on stuff like those inserts and other such oxygen absorbers, mold inhibitors, nitrogen flushed packaging, etc. While some practices are deceptive, like CO flushing meat packages to keep them red, or some of the "enhanced" injected meats, stuff like the inserts isn't deceptive and legitimately extends the shelf life of the products, just as refrigeration does. You wouldn't want your market to go back to third world refrigeration free open air, so you shouldn't have a problem with those inserts. |
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Pete C. > wrote:
>You wouldn't want your market to go back to third world refrigeration >free open air Why do you say this? I think a lot of stuff suffers from over-refrigeration. Bananas are a prime example -- sometimes they will not ever ripen. Steve |
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![]() Steve Pope wrote: > > Pete C. > wrote: > > >You wouldn't want your market to go back to third world refrigeration > >free open air > > Why do you say this? > > I think a lot of stuff suffers from over-refrigeration. Bananas > are a prime example -- sometimes they will not ever ripen. > > Steve Well you wouldn't want the meats and fish unrefrigerated, would you? As for bananas, I always buy the least ripe I can find and still end up making a lot of banana bread when they ripen too fast. |
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"Pete C." wrote:
> > While some practices are deceptive, like CO flushing meat packages to > keep them red, or some of the "enhanced" injected meats, stuff like the > inserts isn't deceptive and legitimately extends the shelf life of the > products, just as refrigeration does. Whoa! What's wrong with CO packaging? CO is a colorless, natural gas resulting from incomplete combustion of wood and other natural fuels. It is not a dye. It retards a meat discoloration reaction that freaks out a lot of people, in which meat can literally turn purple, without any loss of nutrition or wholesomeness. It allows reduction or elimination of meat curing salts, which promote the formation cancer-causing N-nitroso compounds such as the infamous nitrosamines. There's nothing wrong with CO treatment of meat, and it's actually healthful when it displaces the bad nitrate and nitrite meat-curing salts. |
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![]() Mark Thorson wrote: > > "Pete C." wrote: > > > > While some practices are deceptive, like CO flushing meat packages to > > keep them red, or some of the "enhanced" injected meats, stuff like the > > inserts isn't deceptive and legitimately extends the shelf life of the > > products, just as refrigeration does. > > Whoa! What's wrong with CO packaging? CO is a colorless, > natural gas resulting from incomplete combustion of wood > and other natural fuels. It is not a dye. It retards > a meat discoloration reaction that freaks out a lot of > people, in which meat can literally turn purple, without > any loss of nutrition or wholesomeness. It allows > reduction or elimination of meat curing salts, which > promote the formation cancer-causing N-nitroso compounds > such as the infamous nitrosamines. There's nothing wrong > with CO treatment of meat, and it's actually healthful > when it displaces the bad nitrate and nitrite meat-curing > salts. Refrigeration, oxygen absorbers, mold inhibitors and the like all serve to retard spoilage. CO flushing does nothing at all to retard spoilage, it only affects cosmetics. CO flushing is simply deceptive. |
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"Pete C." > wrote in message
... > > Mark Thorson wrote: >> >> "Pete C." wrote: >> > >> > While some practices are deceptive, like CO flushing meat packages to >> > keep them red, or some of the "enhanced" injected meats, stuff like the >> > inserts isn't deceptive and legitimately extends the shelf life of the >> > products, just as refrigeration does. >> >> Whoa! What's wrong with CO packaging? CO is a colorless, >> natural gas resulting from incomplete combustion of wood >> and other natural fuels. It is not a dye. It retards >> a meat discoloration reaction that freaks out a lot of >> people, in which meat can literally turn purple, without >> any loss of nutrition or wholesomeness. It allows >> reduction or elimination of meat curing salts, which >> promote the formation cancer-causing N-nitroso compounds >> such as the infamous nitrosamines. There's nothing wrong >> with CO treatment of meat, and it's actually healthful >> when it displaces the bad nitrate and nitrite meat-curing >> salts. > > Refrigeration, oxygen absorbers, mold inhibitors and the like all serve > to retard spoilage. CO flushing does nothing at all to retard spoilage, > it only affects cosmetics. CO flushing is simply deceptive. Yes. The store in question can take a package of meat that one customer removed from his/her cart and placed in the canned vegetable section because he/she decided that he/she didn't really want the meat, for whatever reason, and was too lazy to return to the meat cooler. The next morning, as they are prepping to open, the stock boy finds the meat and returns it to the meat cooler. It's still nice and red, but since it has been out all night, it as begun to spoil. Never noticed until another customer gets it home and opens the smelly thing. BOB |
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BOB > wrote:
> "Pete C." > wrote in message > ... >> >> Mark Thorson wrote: >>> >>> "Pete C." wrote: >>> > >>> > While some practices are deceptive, like CO flushing meat packages to >>> > keep them red, or some of the "enhanced" injected meats, stuff like the >>> > inserts isn't deceptive and legitimately extends the shelf life of the >>> > products, just as refrigeration does. >>> >>> Whoa! What's wrong with CO packaging? CO is a colorless, >>> natural gas resulting from incomplete combustion of wood >>> and other natural fuels. It is not a dye. It retards >>> a meat discoloration reaction that freaks out a lot of >>> people, in which meat can literally turn purple, without >>> any loss of nutrition or wholesomeness. It allows >>> reduction or elimination of meat curing salts, which >>> promote the formation cancer-causing N-nitroso compounds >>> such as the infamous nitrosamines. There's nothing wrong >>> with CO treatment of meat, and it's actually healthful >>> when it displaces the bad nitrate and nitrite meat-curing >>> salts. >> >> Refrigeration, oxygen absorbers, mold inhibitors and the like all serve >> to retard spoilage. CO flushing does nothing at all to retard spoilage, >> it only affects cosmetics. CO flushing is simply deceptive. > > Yes. The store in question can take a package of meat that one customer > removed from his/her cart and placed in the canned vegetable section because > he/she decided that he/she didn't really want the meat, for whatever reason, > and was too lazy to return to the meat cooler. The next morning, as they > are prepping to open, the stock boy finds the meat and returns it to the > meat cooler. It's still nice and red, but since it has been out all night, > it as begun to spoil. Never noticed until another customer gets it home and > opens the smelly thing. But studies have shown that Mark knows what he's talking about!!!! ****ing moron, he is. -sw |
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