On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:24:39 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
> wrote:

>On Jun 12, 2:21 am, Blinky the Shark > wrote:
>> So speaking of beer <g>, some Yuropeen brewery is trying to take over Bud.
>>
>> Bud!
>>
>> That's just so wrong.
>>
>> Hey! Keep yer flippin' hands offa the institution!
>>
>> --
>> Blinky
>
>I don't think any non-USA entity should be allowed to buy any US land,
>companies or any other kind of property within the boundaries of the
>U.S. But I'm sure I'm one of the few who feel like that. I think
>it's just wrong that the Japanese, for example, own huge chunks of
>U.S. real estate.
>
>N.

no, i think there are plenty of nativists out there. after all,
*somebody* is watching lou dobbs.

as for the japanese buying real estate, it didn't seem to help them
much.

your pal,
blake

On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:05:50 -0700, Dave Bell
> wrote:

>Nancy2 wrote:
>> On Jun 12, 2:21 am, Blinky the Shark > wrote:
>>> So speaking of beer <g>, some Yuropeen brewery is trying to take over Bud.
>>>
>>> Bud!
>>>
>>> That's just so wrong.
>>>
>>> Hey! Keep yer flippin' hands offa the institution!
>>>
>>> --
>>> Blinky
>>
>> I don't think any non-USA entity should be allowed to buy any US land,
>> companies or any other kind of property within the boundaries of the
>> U.S. But I'm sure I'm one of the few who feel like that. I think
>> it's just wrong that the Japanese, for example, own huge chunks of
>> U.S. real estate.
>
>Like the Italians with a controlling interest in the NY Flatiron building?
>Or the Abu-Dhabi concern negotiating for the Chrysler building?

all you gotta do is come up with more money than they have and you,
too, could own the chrysler building. isn't capitalism what makes the
country great?

your pal,
blake

On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:16:02 -0700, Blinky the Shark
> wrote:
>
>Speaking of flatirons, I noticed today that Sizzler - a USan
>steak-and-stuff chain - has added a flatiron steak entree. I noticed
>because that is my current favorite reasonably-priced cow chunk for
>grilling.

it's reasonably priced in your neck of the woods? i seem to recall
about eight bucks a pound here in md, when you even see the damned
stuff.

i blame the ****ing mexicans.

your pal,
blake

On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:27:26 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
> wrote:

>On Jun 12, 8:28 am, enigma > wrote:
>> Steve Y > wrote :
>>
>> > Why ? Are you worried they might start adding Taste and
>> > Flavour to your "beer" ?
>>
>> no kidding...
>> although it most likely wouldn't have any noticable effect at
>> all on the "beer". it wouldn't make sense to actually add good
>> ingredients like hops & grain to it if the public is more than
>> willing to pay for horse ****.
>
>
>Who is the arbiter of what is "good beer?" It's all subjective. I
>happen to like Miller Lite. Maybe <I> am the defining taster, and all
>the prissy "microbrews" are horse ****.
>
>N.

i like rolling rock and budweiser also. i think heineken and the like
actually taste bad - too bitter or 'hoppy' for me.

but some who like that sort of thing, foreign or microbrews, feel
compelled to describe american beers as 'horse ****.' i'm not sure
why, other than to boost their self-esteem as having 'good taste.'

if you don't like it, fine, but there's no need to sneer at those who
do.

your pal,
blake

On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 06:56:23 -0400, "Kswck" >
wrote:

>
> wrote in message
...
>>
>> James Silverton wrote:
>>> Nancy2 wrote on Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:27:26 -0700 (PDT):
>>>
>>> > On Jun 12, 8:28 am, enigma > wrote:
>>> >> Steve Y > wrote
>>> >> :
>>> >>
>>> > >> Why ? Are you worried they might start adding Taste and
>>> > >> Flavour to your "beer" ?
>>> >>
>>> >> no kidding...
>>> >> although it most likely wouldn't have any noticable effect
>>> >> at all on the "beer". it wouldn't make sense to actually add
>>> >> good ingredients like hops & grain to it if the public is
>>> >> more than willing to pay for horse ****.
>>>
>>> > Who is the arbiter of what is "good beer?" It's all
>>> > subjective. I happen to like Miller Lite. Maybe <I> am the
>>> > defining taster, and all the prissy "microbrews" are horse
>>> > ****.
>>>
>>> Drink what you like of course but why insult others' tastes? It's simply
>>> not worth the trouble to say that you do or don't like a popular beer.
>>> Budweiser seems to sell pretty well in Britain even if I only like it
>>> cold enough to have floating ice crystals .
>>>
>> We have some British style Brew Pubs I like that know how to serve a
>> nice guiness, give me a good warm guiness please. Kind of expensive,
>> but after picking it up and a sip all is good.
>>
>> Many of the bars serve only PBR Pabst on tap, that is one I cannot
>> stand. I'm not much of a bar person but they did outlaw smoking in our
>> bars. I'll smoke one ever now and then but despise taking a shower in
>> the AM and relive the night by smelling that smoke that I was exposed
>> to the night before. Being around A hundred or two people who are
>> smoking about to smoke or had just smoked is is not much fun..
>
>
>PBR-Ugh! One long weekend in college-only thing we could afford. Never
>again. I get nauseous just looking at it.
>

pabst *is* pretty nasty. it has its partisans, though.

your pal,
blake

On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 19:38:34 -0700, Blinky the Shark
> wrote:

>Dave Bell wrote:
>
>> InBev stated:
>> "Moreover, Anheuser-Busch's well-known Budweiser brew would become the
>> merged company's global flagship brand alongside InBev's Stella Artois,
>> Beck's and Brahma lines."
>> "'We see the potential to take the Budweiser brand and develop it across
>> our foot print'"
>
>Oh, great -- beer that tastes of toe jam.

you can be sure some microbrewer is working on it as we speak.

your pal,
blake

blake murphy > wrote in
:

> i like rolling rock and budweiser also. i think heineken
> and the like actually taste bad - too bitter or 'hoppy' for
> me.

US Heiniken is nothing like what you get in Germany & you're
right, it is weirdly bitter. it's not from hops though. that's
a different 'bitter'. St.Pauli Girl in the US is also a
travesty, at least the dark. i first had St.Pauli Girl Dark in
the Bahamas in the late 60s (why, yes, i was underage by
several years, but when the choices are good beer or bad
water, my parents were sensible enough to let us have the
beer. i credit their sense to my never ever having been drunk
in my life). it was imported German. the St.Pauli (and
Heinekin) in the US is made here. i don't know if it's the
water, the yeast stain or the type of hops, but it's watery &
has a bad aftertaste.

> but some who like that sort of thing, foreign or
> microbrews, feel compelled to describe american beers as
> 'horse ****.' i'm not sure why, other than to boost their
> self-esteem as having 'good taste.'

because American beers are weak & watery. they're good if you
want to serve an ice cold beer, because the chilling isn't
hiding any flavor.
personally, i'm not much of a beer fan, but i really dislike
beers like Bud. maybe for the taste & maybe because it's the
beer of choice for obnoxious drunk fratboys...
>
> if you don't like it, fine, but there's no need to sneer at
> those who do.

unless they're obnoxious drunk frat boys...
lee
--
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It wasn't there again today
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Blinky the Shark wrote:
> Kswck wrote:
>

>> And Coors is owned by Canadians.
>
> I did not know that.
>


It's of recent vintage. Molson made an offer they couldn't refuse.
It was a Big Deal in Denver with all kinds of angst and woe.

Family owned businesses are OK for income but there's no liquidity
for the big bucks unless they sell or go public.

gloria p

Kswck wrote:

> I think Beck's is entirely different in Bavaria than it is in the US. Two
> entirely different tastes.

Beck's isn't from Bavaria, and it's not often found there. In most of
Germany, local brands take precedence.

Sqwertz wrote:

> Kswck > wrote:
>
> > The difference is that one drinks American ****-water to get drunk.
European
> > beers are for taste only-not to get drunk (hurts too much the next day).
>
> I can't drink Bud/Miller/Whatever fast enough to get a buzz. I'd
> get sick from all that crap sloshing aroud in my stomach.
>
> I try not to drink anything under 7%, which rules out anything but
> the better American microbrews and 90% of the Belgians :-)
>
> Steve's Motto: Drink Less, Drink Better.
> (OK, so I stole that from Unibroue, sosueme)


I don't even bother with beer, I just go for the wodka...I'll only buy beer
for cooking.


--
Best
Greg

wrote:

> The definition of beer turns into malt liquor over %6 in the US.

No, it doesn't. It does in a couple states, but it is not a nationwide
thing.

-Steve

Steve Jackson > wrote:
> wrote:

>> The definition of beer turns into malt liquor over %6 in the US.

> No, it doesn't. It does in a couple states, but it is not a
> nationwide thing.

Although Liqour Laws have been updated, years ago
malt liquor was anything over 3.2 ABV in some States.

Malt liquor is a American name for high ABV lagers
made with cheap adjuncts. Europeans refer to it as
superduper lager. Not all high ABV lagers qualify
as a malt liquor. An immediate example is Eisbock.

Dick

blake murphy wrote:

> On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:16:02 -0700, Blinky the Shark
> > wrote:
>>
>>Speaking of flatirons, I noticed today that Sizzler - a USan
>>steak-and-stuff chain - has added a flatiron steak entree. I noticed
>>because that is my current favorite reasonably-priced cow chunk for
>>grilling.
>
> it's reasonably priced in your neck of the woods? i seem to recall
> about eight bucks a pound here in md, when you even see the damned
> stuff.

I've always paid $4.99 for it...uh...perhaps $5.99. But certainly no
more.


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enigma wrote:

> Nancy2 > wrote in
>
> oups.com:
>
>> On Jun 12, 2:21 am, Blinky the Shark >
>> wrote:
>>> So speaking of beer <g>, some Yuropeen brewery is trying
>>> to take over Bud.
>>>
>>> Bud!
>>>
>>> That's just so wrong.
>>>
>>> Hey! Keep yer flippin' hands offa the institution!
>>>
>>> --
>>> Blinky
>>
>> I don't think any non-USA entity should be allowed to buy
>> any US land, companies or any other kind of property within
>> the boundaries of the U.S. But I'm sure I'm one of the few
>> who feel like that. I think it's just wrong that the
>> Japanese, for example, own huge chunks of U.S. real estate.
>
> so do the Germans, although they've been selling for the past
> few years. most big agribiz farms in the US have foreign
> owners or are heavily invested in by European or Japanese
> businesses.
> there are states that lease their toll highway systems to
> European businesses (mostly Italian & Spanish).

So if it ever goes toll, California's coastal Camino Real might
actually relate to Spain again.

"El Camino Real (Spanish for The Royal Road, also known as The King's
Highway) usually refers to the 600-mile (966-kilometer) California Mission
Trail, connecting the former Alta California's 21 missions (along with a
number of support sites), 4 presidios, and several pueblos, stretching
from Mission San Diego de Alcalá in San Diego in the south to Mission San
Francisco Solano in Sonoma in the north." - wiki


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On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 21:37:10 -0700, Blinky the Shark
> wrote:

>blake murphy wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:16:02 -0700, Blinky the Shark
>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>Speaking of flatirons, I noticed today that Sizzler - a USan
>>>steak-and-stuff chain - has added a flatiron steak entree. I noticed
>>>because that is my current favorite reasonably-priced cow chunk for
>>>grilling.
>>
>> it's reasonably priced in your neck of the woods? i seem to recall
>> about eight bucks a pound here in md, when you even see the damned
>> stuff.
>
>I've always paid $4.99 for it...uh...perhaps $5.99. But certainly no
>more.

i think it was more than that, because i was shocked. maybe i
shouldn't have been, given the price flank steak fetches.

your pal,
blake

On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 15:07:37 +0000 (UTC), enigma >
wrote:

>blake murphy > wrote in
:
>
>> i like rolling rock and budweiser also. i think heineken
>> and the like actually taste bad - too bitter or 'hoppy' for
>> me.
>
>US Heiniken is nothing like what you get in Germany & you're
>right, it is weirdly bitter. it's not from hops though. that's
>a different 'bitter'. St.Pauli Girl in the US is also a
>travesty, at least the dark. i first had St.Pauli Girl Dark in
>the Bahamas in the late 60s (why, yes, i was underage by
>several years, but when the choices are good beer or bad
>water, my parents were sensible enough to let us have the
>beer. i credit their sense to my never ever having been drunk
>in my life). it was imported German. the St.Pauli (and
>Heinekin) in the US is made here. i don't know if it's the
>water, the yeast stain or the type of hops, but it's watery &
>has a bad aftertaste.
>
>> but some who like that sort of thing, foreign or
>> microbrews, feel compelled to describe american beers as
>> 'horse ****.' i'm not sure why, other than to boost their
>> self-esteem as having 'good taste.'
>
> because American beers are weak & watery. they're good if you
>want to serve an ice cold beer, because the chilling isn't
>hiding any flavor.
> personally, i'm not much of a beer fan, but i really dislike
>beers like Bud. maybe for the taste & maybe because it's the
>beer of choice for obnoxious drunk fratboys...
>>
>> if you don't like it, fine, but there's no need to sneer at
>> those who do.
>
>unless they're obnoxious drunk frat boys...
>lee

well, i'm sometimes drunk but i've never been a fratboy.

your pal,
blake

On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:50:51 -0600, Gloria P >
wrote:

>Blinky the Shark wrote:
>> Kswck wrote:
>>
>
>>> And Coors is owned by Canadians.
>>
>> I did not know that.
>>
>
>
>It's of recent vintage. Molson made an offer they couldn't refuse.
>It was a Big Deal in Denver with all kinds of angst and woe.
>
>Family owned businesses are OK for income but there's no liquidity
>for the big bucks unless they sell or go public.
>
>gloria p

liquidity is a must in the beer biz.

your pal,
blake

On Sat 14 Jun 2008 10:55:36a, blake murphy told us...

> On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 15:07:37 +0000 (UTC), enigma >
> wrote:
>
>>blake murphy > wrote in
m:
>>
>>> i like rolling rock and budweiser also. i think heineken
>>> and the like actually taste bad - too bitter or 'hoppy' for me.
>>
>>US Heiniken is nothing like what you get in Germany & you're
>>right, it is weirdly bitter. it's not from hops though. that's
>>a different 'bitter'. St.Pauli Girl in the US is also a
>>travesty, at least the dark. i first had St.Pauli Girl Dark in
>>the Bahamas in the late 60s (why, yes, i was underage by
>>several years, but when the choices are good beer or bad
>>water, my parents were sensible enough to let us have the
>>beer. i credit their sense to my never ever having been drunk
>>in my life). it was imported German. the St.Pauli (and
>>Heinekin) in the US is made here. i don't know if it's the
>>water, the yeast stain or the type of hops, but it's watery &
>>has a bad aftertaste.
>>
>>> but some who like that sort of thing, foreign or
>>> microbrews, feel compelled to describe american beers as
>>> 'horse ****.' i'm not sure why, other than to boost their
>>> self-esteem as having 'good taste.'
>>
>> because American beers are weak & watery. they're good if you
>>want to serve an ice cold beer, because the chilling isn't
>>hiding any flavor.
>> personally, i'm not much of a beer fan, but i really dislike
>>beers like Bud. maybe for the taste & maybe because it's the beer of
>>choice for obnoxious drunk fratboys...
>>>
>>> if you don't like it, fine, but there's no need to sneer at those who
>>> do.
>>
>>unless they're obnoxious drunk frat boys...
>>lee
>
> well, i'm sometimes drunk but i've never been a fratboy.
>
> your pal,
> blake
>

I don't think I'm a snob about beer, but I have never liked any light
colored beers or "lite" beers, regardless of origin. I prefer porter and
stout and a good bock beer over any others. I guess I simply prefer the
"thick" heavy and/or creamy quality that most of them have.

--
Wayne Boatwright
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Today is: Flag Day
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love my battleaxe.
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Wayne wrote on Sat, 14 Jun 2008 18:02:47 GMT:

>>
> I don't think I'm a snob about beer, but I have never liked
> any light colored beers or "lite" beers, regardless of origin.
> I prefer porter and stout and a good bock beer over any
> others. I guess I simply prefer the "thick" heavy and/or
> creamy quality that most of them have.

IMHO, it's not snobbery, just a personal preference. I like some light
colored lagers and Pilsner beers and also the Japanese Asahi Dry Beer.
Stella Artois is the Budweiser of Belgium, IMHO, and it looks like it's
heading more and more in that direction. I also like Guinness Stout tho'
some of its variants are better than others. Sam Adams Stout is quite a
good imitation of Guinness Extra but I heartily dislike McKesson's
(sweet) stout. I don't think Lambic beers are worth their ridiculous
prices either. I have enjoyed cold glasses of French and Italian beers
on hot days in their native countries but I don't think it is worth
buying the imported stuff.

Sometimes I wonder about tales of beers tasting much better in the
original country! It's like some wines that are said "don't travel".
The ambience and the mood you were in affects your memories of a first
taste. It has to admitted that not all imported beers have been kept
properly and can be a bit skunked.

--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

E-mail, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

blake murphy > wrote in
:

> well, i'm sometimes drunk but i've never been a fratboy.

well, that's a big plus
but are you obnoxious when drunk (& that can mean either pushy
or whiney. neither type is attractive)?
lee
--
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"James Silverton" > wrote in
news:e0U4k.37795$lE3.33265@trnddc05:

> Sometimes I wonder about tales of beers tasting much better
> in the original country! It's like some wines that are
> said "don't travel". The ambience and the mood you were in
> affects your memories of a first taste. It has to admitted
> that not all imported beers have been kept properly and can
> be a bit skunked.

there is that, of course, but a beer's flavor is also
dependent on the water used, the strain of the yeast (& that
alone can make a rather big difference), the grains, the type
of hop... when the hops are added, etc.
American made St.Pauli Girl really isn't anything like
imported St.Pauli Girl.
lee
--
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I pinged a host that wasn't there
It wasn't there again today
The host resolved to NSA.

"blake murphy" > wrote >
> well, i'm sometimes drunk but i've never been a fratboy.
>

I saw a bumper sticker once that said "God invented whiskey
to keep the Irish from ruling the world."

cybercat wrote on Sun, 15 Jun 2008 13:14:28 -0400:


> "blake murphy" > wrote >
>> well, i'm sometimes drunk but i've never been a fratboy.
>>
> I saw a bumper sticker once that said "God invented whiskey
> to keep the Irish from ruling the world."

In the recent hot weather, I've grown to rather like Mike's Hard
Lemonade and Limeade but I wonder why something made in the US uses 11.2
oz bottles? Are they buying them cheap from some place using metric 330
ml bottles?

--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

E-mail, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

"James Silverton" > wrote in message
news:Xgc5k.15716$8q2.2671@trnddc02...
> cybercat wrote on Sun, 15 Jun 2008 13:14:28 -0400:
>
>
>> "blake murphy" > wrote >
>>> well, i'm sometimes drunk but i've never been a fratboy.
>>>
>> I saw a bumper sticker once that said "God invented whiskey
>> to keep the Irish from ruling the world."
>
> In the recent hot weather, I've grown to rather like Mike's Hard Lemonade
> and Limeade

Ihave never tried this, but this exchange made me crave an old fashioned
whiskey sour. It's been years.

>but I wonder why something made in the US uses 11.2 oz bottles? Are they
>buying them cheap from some place using metric 330 ml bottles?
>

That really is weird.

enigma > wrote:

>"James Silverton" > wrote in

>> Sometimes I wonder about tales of beers tasting much better
>> in the original country! It's like some wines that are
>> said "don't travel". The ambience and the mood you were in
>> affects your memories of a first taste. It has to admitted
>> that not all imported beers have been kept properly and can
>> be a bit skunked.

> there is that, of course, but a beer's flavor is also
>dependent on the water used, the strain of the yeast (& that
>alone can make a rather big difference), the grains, the type
>of hop... when the hops are added, etc.
> American made St.Pauli Girl really isn't anything like
>imported St.Pauli Girl.

I'm sure the latter is true, but even beers that should
be from identical batches can taste far better close to
their origin.

I personally think that ales travel much less well than
lagers.

Steve

Steve wrote on Sun, 15 Jun 2008 17:53:52 +0000 (UTC):

>> "James Silverton" > wrote in

>>> Sometimes I wonder about tales of beers tasting much better
>>> in the original country! It's like some wines that are
>>> said "don't travel". The ambience and the mood you were in
>>> affects your memories of a first taste. It has to admitted
>>> that not all imported beers have been kept properly and can
>>> be a bit skunked.

>> there is that, of course, but a beer's flavor is also
>> dependent on the water used, the strain of the yeast (& that
>> alone can make a rather big difference), the grains, the type
>> of hop... when the hops are added, etc. American made
>> St.Pauli Girl really isn't anything like imported St.Pauli
>> Girl.

> I'm sure the latter is true, but even beers that should
> be from identical batches can taste far better close to
> their origin.

> I personally think that ales travel much less well than
> lagers.

Water used for making beer is usually pretty pure and I have no evidence
that St. Pauli Girl uses different hops or yeasts in different
countries, do you? American brewers do use imported hops for some beers.
As an aside, I don't think all that much of any brewer's St. Pauli Girl.
It's not one that I would go out of my way to buy.

There's another type of beer that I like, Hefeweizen, that many US
brewers claim to make but very few of them use the correct yeast. You
can readily detect a slight taste of cloves in the real thing. Flying
Dog brewery of Denver does make a real tasting Hefeweizen, despite the
ridiculous label.

--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

E-mail, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

James Silverton <not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not> wrote:

> Steve wrote on Sun, 15 Jun 2008 17:53:52 +0000 (UTC):

>>> "James Silverton" > wrote in

>>>> Sometimes I wonder about tales of beers tasting much better
>>>> in the original country! It's like some wines that are
>>>> said "don't travel". The ambience and the mood you were in
>>>> affects your memories of a first taste. It has to admitted
>>>> that not all imported beers have been kept properly and can
>>>> be a bit skunked.

>>> there is that, of course, but a beer's flavor is also
>>> dependent on the water used, the strain of the yeast (& that
>>> alone can make a rather big difference), the grains, the type
>>> of hop... when the hops are added, etc. American made
>>> St.Pauli Girl really isn't anything like imported St.Pauli
>>> Girl.

>> I'm sure the latter is true, but even beers that should
>> be from identical batches can taste far better close to
>> their origin.

>> I personally think that ales travel much less well than
>> lagers.

>Water used for making beer is usually pretty pure and I have no evidence
>that St. Pauli Girl uses different hops or yeasts in different
>countries, do you?

No, but in my experience beers brewed under the same label
in different countries often don't even use the same formula.
But I rarely drink St Pauli Girl so I dunno, maybe it's
the exception. Just that I would not doubt any statement
that it is not the same.

>As an aside, I don't think all that much of any brewer's St. Pauli Girl.
>It's not one that I would go out of my way to buy.

>There's another type of beer that I like, Hefeweizen, that many US
>brewers claim to make but very few of them use the correct yeast. You
>can readily detect a slight taste of cloves in the real thing. Flying
>Dog brewery of Denver does make a real tasting Hefeweizen, despite the
>ridiculous label.

Interesting, I'll have to look for that. Thanks.

Steve

On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 16:58:23 +0000 (UTC), enigma >
wrote:

>blake murphy > wrote in
:
>
>> well, i'm sometimes drunk but i've never been a fratboy.
>
> well, that's a big plus
>but are you obnoxious when drunk (& that can mean either pushy
>or whiney. neither type is attractive)?

Guess you've never met a happy drunk.


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

"Arri London" > wrote in message

> James Silverton wrote:
>>
>> Nancy2 wrote on Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:27:26 -0700 (PDT):
>>
>>> On Jun 12, 8:28 am, enigma > wrote:
>>>> Steve Y > wrote
>>>> :
>>>>
>>>>> Why ? Are you worried they might start adding Taste and
>>>>> Flavour to your "beer" ?
>>>>
>>>> no kidding...
>>>> although it most likely wouldn't have any noticable effect
>>>> at all on the "beer". it wouldn't make sense to actually add
>>>> good ingredients like hops & grain to it if the public is
>>>> more than willing to pay for horse ****.
>>
>>> Who is the arbiter of what is "good beer?" It's all
>>> subjective. I happen to like Miller Lite. Maybe <I> am the
>>> defining taster, and all the prissy "microbrews" are horse
>>> ****.
>>
>> Drink what you like of course but why insult others' tastes? It's
>> simply not worth the trouble to say that you do or don't like a
>> popular beer. Budweiser seems to sell pretty well in Britain even if
>> I only like it cold enough to have floating ice crystals .
>>
>> --
>>
>> James Silverton
>> Potomac, Maryland
>>
>>
>
> But the Budweiser sold in the UK (which is usually the Czech version)
> isn't the same as the US Bud in any case. Anheuser/Busch stole the
> name of a perfectly decent Czech beer and have been using it on their
> coloured water ever since.

That's simply not true based on my experience. I've bought Budweiser on
British trains and it was the familiar Anheuser-Busch bottle. Europeans
love to say that Anheuser-Busch stole the name but their use predates
that of the consolidated Budvar breweries. In 1876, the name Budweiser
was adopted by the American brewer Adolphus Bush. When the Czech
brewery, 20 years later (just after incorporation in 1895 ), wished to
begin exports to the New World, this caused problems, and Budvar had to
be given another name, Crystal I believe. Not that I would maintain that
Budweiser is much of a beer as I have already mentioned even if it is
brewed in Ireland, Italy, Russia, the UK and Spain.


--
Jim Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Steve Jackson > wrote:

> wrote:
>
>> The definition of beer turns into malt liquor over %6 in the US.
>
> No, it doesn't. It does in a couple states, but it is not a nationwide
> thing.

It does vary by state. Here in TX anything over 4.9% (I think),
must be labeled Ale, Malt Liquor, Lager, or Malt Beverage. And some
states you can't even buy any beer over 5 or 6% (South Carolina,
eg.)

-sw

No Poster > wrote:

> All depends on the state. In Texas, a beer over 6 or 7% (I forget the
> exact number) is called an ale. Other states have other goofiness.

It's 5% in TX. Alt, malt liquot/beverage or lager. Anything but
'beer'.

-sw

Steve Pope > wrote:

> No, but in my experience beers brewed under the same label
> in different countries often don't even use the same formula.

Compare Swiss Lowenbrau to the American version, for example.
Bother are sold in the US and look almost identical from the
outside.

-sw

James Silverton > wrote:

> In the recent hot weather, I've grown to rather like Mike's Hard
> Lemonade and Limeade but I wonder why something made in the US uses 11.2
> oz bottles?

Profits. They used to be 12oz's.

-sw

Sqwertz said...

> Steve Pope > wrote:
>
>> No, but in my experience beers brewed under the same label
>> in different countries often don't even use the same formula.
>
> Compare Swiss Lowenbrau to the American version, for example.
> Bother are sold in the US and look almost identical from the
> outside.
>
> -sw


Hey -swartz

Guess what? Lowenbräu is from Munich, Germany!

Stupid ****!

Kiss Sheldon's ass!!!

Andy

Sqwertz > wrote:

>Steve Pope > wrote:

>> No, but in my experience beers brewed under the same label
>> in different countries often don't even use the same formula.

>Compare Swiss Lowenbrau to the American version, for example.
>Bother are sold in the US and look almost identical from the
>outside.

Right. BTW I think there is no longer Lowenbrau brewed in the
US anymore.

Steve

In article >, Andy <q> wrote:
>Sqwertz said...

>> Compare Swiss Lowenbrau to the American version, for example.
>> Bother are sold in the US and look almost identical from the
>> outside.

>Hey -swartz

>Guess what? Lowenbräu is from Munich, Germany!
>
>Stupid ****!
>
>Kiss Sheldon's ass!!!

Um Andy... there is Swiss Lowenbrau as well. You've never
seen it? After Miller barred the import of Munich Lowenbrau
to sell the Miller-produced product, clever people started
bringing in Zurich Lowenbrau.

Steve

Andy <q> wrote:

> Sqwertz said...
>
>> Steve Pope > wrote:
>>
>>> No, but in my experience beers brewed under the same label
>>> in different countries often don't even use the same formula.
>>
>> Compare Swiss Lowenbrau to the American version, for example.
>> Bother are sold in the US and look almost identical from the
>> outside.
>
> Hey -swartz
>
> Guess what? Lowenbräu is from Munich, Germany!
>
> Stupid ****!

I don't suppose you looked up "Swiss Lowenbrau" on the web before
you posted that. Didn't think so.

'Stupid ****', indeed.

Now if you had any brain at all, you would have pointed out that
there is no American-brewed Lowenbrau any more, and that the Swiss
and Munich versions were unrelated while the Swiss version was
considered superior to the Munich version (though used the same
packaging as the US versions with slightly different colors).

Really, Andy - you make this way too easy for me. Say somrhting
else. I dare you.

-sw

Steve Pope said...

> In article >, Andy <q> wrote:
>>Sqwertz said...
>
>>> Compare Swiss Lowenbrau to the American version, for example.
>>> Bother are sold in the US and look almost identical from the
>>> outside.
>
>>Hey -swartz
>
>>Guess what? Lowenbräu is from Munich, Germany!
>>
>>Stupid ****!
>>
>>Kiss Sheldon's ass!!!
>
> Um Andy... there is Swiss Lowenbrau as well. You've never
> seen it? After Miller barred the import of Munich Lowenbrau
> to sell the Miller-produced product, clever people started
> bringing in Zurich Lowenbrau.
>
> Steve


Wartz,

You must STILL Kiss Sheldon's ass!

Ever drank German Lowenbräu?

You kiss Sheldon's ass twice!!!

Andy
LOLOLOL!!!

Sqwertz said...

> Andy <q> wrote:
>
>> Sqwertz said...
>>
>>> Steve Pope > wrote:
>>>
>>>> No, but in my experience beers brewed under the same label
>>>> in different countries often don't even use the same formula.
>>>
>>> Compare Swiss Lowenbrau to the American version, for example.
>>> Bother are sold in the US and look almost identical from the
>>> outside.
>>
>> Hey -swartz
>>
>> Guess what? Lowenbräu is from Munich, Germany!
>>
>> Stupid ****!
>
> I don't suppose you looked up "Swiss Lowenbrau" on the web before
> you posted that. Didn't think so.
>
> 'Stupid ****', indeed.
>
> Now if you had any brain at all, you would have pointed out that
> there is no American-brewed Lowenbrau any more, and that the Swiss
> and Munich versions were unrelated while the Swiss version was
> considered superior to the Munich version (though used the same
> packaging as the US versions with slightly different colors).
>
> Really, Andy - you make this way too easy for me. Say somrhting
> else. I dare you.
>
> -sw
>

warts,

You would probably want to see my ceramic Lowenbräu German beer mug first?

You're a jerk out of luck.

Andy.

"Dave Witzel" > wrote in message
46.128...
> Sqwertz > wrote on 15 Jun 2008:
>> It does vary by state. Here in TX anything over 4.9% (I think),
>> must be labeled Ale, Malt Liquor, Lager, or Malt Beverage. And
>> some states you can't even buy any beer over 5 or 6% (South
>> Carolina, eg.)
>
> South Carolina fixed their law (following NC and GA). I think Alabama
> failed their last state legislative session, but that'll go soon.
> Mississippi? Utah?
>
> But "Malt Liquor" as a legal term still persists in but a few states,
> much like "Ale" as a strength designation.
>
> Witzel
>

Not Utah. Uinta has been making a BWSA for years and their state liquors
stores don't have a cap on alcohol, iirc.
On draft? It can only be 4%abv, or is it by weight?




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