This is the poorest excuse for chunk tuna I've ever seen. Mush, through
and through. They're going to hear about this.

Tuna salad with mac and peas, bound with homemade mayo, on top of some
green stuff for dinner tonight. Maybe some Triscuits, and corn relish
or pickles for HWSRN. Marble bundt cake for dessert.
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
Huffy and Bubbles Do France: http://www.jamlady.eboard.com

On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:55:05 -0500, Melba's Jammin'
> wrote:

>This is the poorest excuse for chunk tuna I've ever seen. Mush, through
>and through. They're going to hear about this.

ooohh...yuck.... The ONLY one I use is StarKist Solid White
Albacore packed in water. Chunk tuna is always mushy to me.

"Billy" <Hereiam@hotmaildotcom> wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:55:05 -0500, Melba's Jammin'
> > wrote:
>
> >This is the poorest excuse for chunk tuna I've ever seen. Mush, through
> >and through. They're going to hear about this.
>
> ooohh...yuck.... The ONLY one I use is StarKist Solid White
> Albacore packed in water. Chunk tuna is always mushy to me.

I've also seen this situation with Bumble Bee and other major brands. It
seems that what in years past was called "grated tuna" (have you ever seen
"grated tuna" in supermarkets recently? I haven't, but I remember it from
decades ago, when I used it as a pet cat treat) now qualifies as "chunk."

It's worth investigating independent brands of solid white tuna, because
some are excellent. Aldi's is.

On Jun 12, 1:55*pm, Melba's Jammin' >
wrote:
> This is the poorest excuse for chunk tuna I've ever seen. *Mush, through
> and through. *They're going to hear about this.
>
> Tuna salad with mac and peas, bound with homemade mayo, on top of some
> green stuff for dinner tonight. *Maybe some Triscuits, and corn relish
> or pickles for HWSRN. *Marble bundt cake for dessert.
> --
> -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
> Huffy and Bubbles Do France:http://www.jamlady.eboard.com

I've noticed that, too- you can't even drain the liquid out using the
lid of the can. I'm lucky as one of our customers is Trident Seafood,
and one of their products is Rubenstein's tuna. I can get it for
$33.00 a case. I swear by that stuff, and it has to be packed in oil.
Otherwise, Costco's solid tuna is pretty damn good.

Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>
> This is the poorest excuse for chunk tuna I've ever seen. Mush, through
> and through. They're going to hear about this.
>
> Tuna salad with mac and peas, bound with homemade mayo, on top of some
> green stuff for dinner tonight. Maybe some Triscuits, and corn relish
> or pickles for HWSRN. Marble bundt cake for dessert.
> --
> -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
> Huffy and Bubbles Do France: http://www.jamlady.eboard.com

Let me guess, you accidentally picked up the water packed version,
right? The water packed version should be banned, they're *CRAP*. Even
the late great Julia Child said that.

Oil pack tuna is the only kind worth using, and due to the ignorant
public thinking somehow an oily fish like tuna is suddenly bad for you
if it's packed in oil, the oil pack is in the minority on the shelves.

HiTech RedNeck wrote:
> "Billy" <Hereiam@hotmaildotcom> wrote in message
> ...
>> On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:55:05 -0500, Melba's Jammin'
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> This is the poorest excuse for chunk tuna I've ever seen. Mush, through
>>> and through. They're going to hear about this.
>> ooohh...yuck.... The ONLY one I use is StarKist Solid White
>> Albacore packed in water. Chunk tuna is always mushy to me.
>
> I've also seen this situation with Bumble Bee and other major brands. It
> seems that what in years past was called "grated tuna" (have you ever seen
> "grated tuna" in supermarkets recently? I haven't, but I remember it from
> decades ago, when I used it as a pet cat treat) now qualifies as "chunk."

Many years ago, I worked with an older guy, who had started out working
in a tuna cannery. Told us how the *still* older workers would just
bring a sandwich roll and maybe some spread in their lunchpails. Grab a
can of red-meat off the line, and dump it on. (Yeah, even then, red was
the catfood line. All prepared to the same standards, so why not?)

Dave

Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> This is the poorest excuse for chunk tuna I've ever seen. Mush,
> through and through. They're going to hear about this.

I've noticed that for a long time and switched to solid white
tuna. Even that wasn't all that anymore. I now buy either
the Bumblebee stuff in the gold can or the Kirkland solid
white albacore from Costco.

nancy

Nancy Young > wrote:

>Melba's Jammin' wrote:

>> This is the poorest excuse for chunk tuna I've ever seen. Mush,
>> through and through. They're going to hear about this.

>I've noticed that for a long time and switched to solid white
>tuna. Even that wasn't all that anymore. I now buy either
>the Bumblebee stuff in the gold can or the Kirkland solid
>white albacore from Costco.

Problem with albacore is the high mercury content. For
this reason I prefer to buy skipjack tuna (sometimes it
is labeled that way on the can, sometimes you can guess).

Steve

"HiTech RedNeck" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Billy" <Hereiam@hotmaildotcom> wrote in message
> ...
>> On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:55:05 -0500, Melba's Jammin'
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >This is the poorest excuse for chunk tuna I've ever seen. Mush, through
>> >and through. They're going to hear about this.
>>
>> ooohh...yuck.... The ONLY one I use is StarKist Solid White
>> Albacore packed in water. Chunk tuna is always mushy to me.
>
> I've also seen this situation with Bumble Bee and other major brands. It
> seems that what in years past was called "grated tuna" (have you ever seen
> "grated tuna" in supermarkets recently? I haven't, but I remember it from
> decades ago, when I used it as a pet cat treat) now qualifies as "chunk."
>
> It's worth investigating independent brands of solid white tuna, because
> some are excellent. Aldi's is.
>

Trouble, is, I really don't like the flavor of white tuna.

"Pete C." > wrote>
> Oil pack tuna is the only kind worth using, and due to the ignorant
> public thinking somehow an oily fish like tuna is suddenly bad for you
> if it's packed in oil, the oil pack is in the minority on the shelves.

How is the oil pack different besides the oil? I hate the oozey, sliminess
of oil pack.

cybercat > wrote:

>"Pete C." > wrote>

>> Oil pack tuna is the only kind worth using, and due to the ignorant
>> public thinking somehow an oily fish like tuna is suddenly bad for you
>> if it's packed in oil, the oil pack is in the minority on the shelves.

>How is the oil pack different besides the oil? I hate the oozey, sliminess
>of oil pack.

IMO tuna packed in olive oil tastes good because olive oil
tastes good, and tuna is a low-fat fish so the oil is
complementary. Other than that I don't thinkthere's a difference.

Steve

On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 22:23:53 +0000 (UTC),
(Steve Pope) wrote:


>IMO tuna packed in olive oil tastes good because olive oil
>tastes good, and tuna is a low-fat fish so the oil is
>complementary. Other than that I don't thinkthere's a difference.
>
>Steve

Tuna is a low fat fish? Since when?

Christine, who wonders if she is missing something here..

Christine Dabney wrote:
>
> On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 22:23:53 +0000 (UTC),
> (Steve Pope) wrote:
>
> >IMO tuna packed in olive oil tastes good because olive oil
> >tastes good, and tuna is a low-fat fish so the oil is
> >complementary. Other than that I don't thinkthere's a difference.
> >
> >Steve
>
> Tuna is a low fat fish? Since when?

It isn't.

>
> Christine, who wonders if she is missing something here..

Not missing anything.

cybercat wrote:
>
> "Pete C." > wrote>
> > Oil pack tuna is the only kind worth using, and due to the ignorant
> > public thinking somehow an oily fish like tuna is suddenly bad for you
> > if it's packed in oil, the oil pack is in the minority on the shelves.
>
> How is the oil pack different besides the oil? I hate the oozey, sliminess
> of oil pack.

For one, it doesn't suffer from the terrible waterlogged mushy texture
of water packed tuna. Just because a tuna lives in water doesn't mean
it's ok to pack it in water. Would you buy steaks that were packed in
water?

It's a pretty simple and cheap thing to compare, got buy to cans of the
same brand and type of tuna, one water pack and one oil pack and compare
them side by side. It should cost what, $5 or less?

On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:33:10 -0500, "Pete C." >
wrote:


>> Christine, who wonders if she is missing something here..
>
>Not missing anything.

Whew...

I went and looked it up, since I didn't know if I was wrong or not. I
found this...

>The most popular fish used for canning today, tuna is a member of the mackerel family and is prized for its distinctively rich-flavored flesh that is moderate to high in fat, firmly textured, flaky and tender.

This is from:
http://www.tunafacts.com/abouttuna/catchtocan.html

Other sources say the same.

Christine

Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> This is the poorest excuse for chunk tuna I've ever seen. Mush, through
> and through. They're going to hear about this.
>
> Tuna salad with mac and peas, bound with homemade mayo, on top of some
> green stuff for dinner tonight. Maybe some Triscuits, and corn relish
> or pickles for HWSRN. Marble bundt cake for dessert.


I've discovered that Cub's house brand of tuna has more solids than the
*name brands*.
You might give it a try, Barb.

"Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message
...
> This is the poorest excuse for chunk tuna I've ever seen. Mush, through
> and through. They're going to hear about this.
>
> Tuna salad with mac and peas, bound with homemade mayo, on top of some
> green stuff for dinner tonight. Maybe some Triscuits, and corn relish
> or pickles for HWSRN. Marble bundt cake for dessert.
> --
> -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
> Huffy and Bubbles Do France: http://www.jamlady.eboard.com

Watch the sales - you can get Solid White for $1.00 to $1.25 per can. The
chunk tuna in water is tuna flavored slurry. It used to be acceptable. NO
MORE.

The solid goes a lot further as well 'cause there is more meat (ok tuna).

BTW I still prefer tuna in oil IMHO it has more , much more flavor than the
tuna in water.


--
Old Scoundrel

(AKA Dimitri)

Pete C. > wrote:

>Christine Dabney wrote:

>> On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 22:23:53 +0000 (UTC),
>> (Steve Pope) wrote:

>> >tastes good, and tuna is a low-fat fish so the oil is
>> >complementary. Other than that I don't thinkthere's a difference.

>> >Steve

>> Tuna is a low fat fish? Since when?

Since always.

>It isn't.

Sure it is.

100 g of yellowfin tuna (the most common fresh tuna of
any quality) has 28 g protein and 1 g fat, per the USDA database.
The numbers for canned light tuna are 26 g protein, .8 g fat.

Chinook Salmon has 10 times the fat.

There are a handful of fatty tuna products, such as fatty
tuna belly which is prized by the Japanese, but you're unlikely
to see them unless you look for them specifically.

Steve

Christine Dabney > wrote:

>The most popular fish used for canning today, tuna is a member of the
>mackerel family and is prized for its distinctively rich-flavored flesh
>that is moderate to high in fat, firmly textured, flaky and tender.

>This is from:
>http://www.tunafacts.com/abouttuna/catchtocan.html

This would be complete misinformation.

Steve

Melba's Jammin' > wrote in
:

> This is the poorest excuse for chunk tuna I've ever seen.
> Mush, through and through. They're going to hear about this.


Agreed. I don't buy their tuna any more.


> Tuna salad with mac and peas, bound with homemade mayo, on top
> of some green stuff for dinner tonight. Maybe some Triscuits,
> and corn relish or pickles for HWSRN. Marble bundt cake for
> dessert.

On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:12:12 -0700 (PDT), merryb >
wrote:

>On Jun 12, 1:55*pm, Melba's Jammin' >
>wrote:
>> This is the poorest excuse for chunk tuna I've ever seen. *Mush, through
>> and through. *They're going to hear about this.
>>
>> Tuna salad with mac and peas, bound with homemade mayo, on top of some
>> green stuff for dinner tonight. *Maybe some Triscuits, and corn relish
>> or pickles for HWSRN. *Marble bundt cake for dessert.
>> --
>> -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
>> Huffy and Bubbles Do France:http://www.jamlady.eboard.com
>
>I've noticed that, too- you can't even drain the liquid out using the
>lid of the can. I'm lucky as one of our customers is Trident Seafood,
>and one of their products is Rubenstein's tuna. I can get it for
>$33.00 a case. I swear by that stuff, and it has to be packed in oil.
>Otherwise, Costco's solid tuna is pretty damn good.

Agreed on the Kirkland (COSTCO) brand. FWIW Consumer Reports said the
Kirkland brand is much better than the other commercial brands. Of
course someone is making the Kirkland brand for them. Wonder who?

But if you can ever find Van Camp's Wahoo - I think it is packed in
Samoa- that is the best. Pricey, here, at almost $2/can.

aloha,
beans
roast beans to kona to email
farmers of Pure Kona

On Jun 12, 4:13*pm, wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:12:12 -0700 (PDT), merryb >
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Jun 12, 1:55*pm, Melba's Jammin' >
> >wrote:
> >> This is the poorest excuse for chunk tuna I've ever seen. *Mush, through
> >> and through. *They're going to hear about this.
>
> >> Tuna salad with mac and peas, bound with homemade mayo, on top of some
> >> green stuff for dinner tonight. *Maybe some Triscuits, and corn relish
> >> or pickles for HWSRN. *Marble bundt cake for dessert.
> >> --
> >> -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
> >> Huffy and Bubbles Do France:http://www.jamlady.eboard.com
>
> >I've noticed that, too- you can't even drain the liquid out using the
> >lid of the can. I'm lucky as one of our customers is Trident Seafood,
> >and one of their products is Rubenstein's tuna. I can get it for
> >$33.00 a case. I swear by that stuff, and it has to be packed in oil.
> >Otherwise, Costco's solid tuna is pretty damn good.
>
> Agreed on the Kirkland (COSTCO) brand. *FWIW Consumer Reports said the
> Kirkland brand is much better than the other commercial brands. *Of
> course someone is making the Kirkland brand for them. *Wonder who?
>
> But if you can ever find Van Camp's Wahoo - I think it is packed in
> Samoa- that is the best. *Pricey, here, at almost $2/can.
>
> aloha,
> beans
> roast beans to kona to email
> * farmers of Pure Kona- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I've never seen Van Camps tuna, only pork & beans! Since I can get
such a good deal thru work, I stick to Rubensteins. I guess it's hard
to find, but I have seen it in upscale grocery stores for about 3
bucks a can.

On Jun 12, 2:20*pm, "Pete C." > wrote:
> Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>
> > This is the poorest excuse for chunk tuna I've ever seen. *Mush, through
> > and through. *They're going to hear about this.
>
> > Tuna salad with mac and peas, bound with homemade mayo, on top of some
> > green stuff for dinner tonight. *Maybe some Triscuits, and corn relish
> > or pickles for HWSRN. *Marble bundt cake for dessert.
> > --
> > -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
> > Huffy and Bubbles Do France:http://www.jamlady.eboard.com
>
> Let me guess, you accidentally picked up the water packed version,
> right? The water packed version should be banned, they're *CRAP*. Even
> the late great Julia Child said that.
>
> Oil pack tuna is the only kind worth using, and due to the ignorant
> public thinking somehow an oily fish like tuna is suddenly bad for you
> if it's packed in oil, the oil pack is in the minority on the shelves.

I totally agree with you- tuna in water has no flavor to me.

Michael \"Dog3\" wrote:
>
> Melba's Jammin' > news:barbschaller-
> : in rec.food.cooking
>
> > This is the poorest excuse for chunk tuna I've ever seen. Mush, through
> > and through. They're going to hear about this.
> >
> > Tuna salad with mac and peas, bound with homemade mayo, on top of some
> > green stuff for dinner tonight. Maybe some Triscuits, and corn relish
> > or pickles for HWSRN. Marble bundt cake for dessert.
>
> Yep. I agree. You're hard pressed to get enough out of it for 2 small
> sandwiches. Did you buy the canned or the pouches? I don't like the taste
> of the pouch tuna, regardless of the brand. Maybe it's just me.

Have you tried the oil packed pouches?

"Pete C." > wrote in message
...
>
> cybercat wrote:
>>
>> "Pete C." > wrote>
>> > Oil pack tuna is the only kind worth using, and due to the ignorant
>> > public thinking somehow an oily fish like tuna is suddenly bad for you
>> > if it's packed in oil, the oil pack is in the minority on the shelves.
>>
>> How is the oil pack different besides the oil? I hate the oozey,
>> sliminess
>> of oil pack.
>
> For one, it doesn't suffer from the terrible waterlogged mushy texture
> of water packed tuna. Just because a tuna lives in water doesn't mean
> it's ok to pack it in water. Would you buy steaks that were packed in
> water?

Well, that makes sense.

>
> It's a pretty simple and cheap thing to compare, got buy to cans of the
> same brand and type of tuna, one water pack and one oil pack and compare
> them side by side. It should cost what, $5 or less?

More like $3 or less. I might just.

Michael \"Dog3\" wrote:
>
> "Pete C." >
> : in rec.food.cooking
>
> >
> > Michael \"Dog3\" wrote:
> >>
> >> Melba's Jammin' > news:barbschaller-
> >> : in rec.food.cooking
> >>
> >> > This is the poorest excuse for chunk tuna I've ever seen. Mush,
> >> > through and through. They're going to hear about this.
> >> >
> >> > Tuna salad with mac and peas, bound with homemade mayo, on top of
> >> > some green stuff for dinner tonight. Maybe some Triscuits, and
> >> > corn relish or pickles for HWSRN. Marble bundt cake for dessert.
> >>
> >> Yep. I agree. You're hard pressed to get enough out of it for 2
> >> small sandwiches. Did you buy the canned or the pouches? I don't
> >> like the taste of the pouch tuna, regardless of the brand. Maybe it's
> >> just me.
> >
> > Have you tried the oil packed pouches?
>
> No I haven't. Are they decent? I was put off pouched tuna a long time ago
> when they first came out. I haven't bought any for maybe a year or so.
>
> Michael

It's mostly what I buy for tuna, Starkist Chunk Light in Sunflower Oil
pouch. I particularly like the pouch package for stocking my little
camper and not wasting the limited space. At home the tuna is used for
tuna salad 99% of the time, in the camper it's usually added to one of
the Knorr "sides" pasta and/or rice packages to make a complete, fast
one pan meal.

On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:16:31 -0700 (PDT), merryb >
wrote:

>On Jun 12, 4:13*pm, wrote:
>> On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:12:12 -0700 (PDT), merryb >
>> wrote:
>>
>
>> Agreed on the Kirkland (COSTCO) brand. *FWIW Consumer Reports said the
>> Kirkland brand is much better than the other commercial brands. *Of
>> course someone is making the Kirkland brand for them. *Wonder who?
>>
>> But if you can ever find Van Camp's Wahoo - I think it is packed in
>> Samoa- that is the best. *Pricey, here, at almost $2/can.
>>
>> aloha,
>> beans
>> roast beans to kona to email
>> * farmers of Pure Kona- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>I've never seen Van Camps tuna, only pork & beans! Since I can get
>such a good deal thru work, I stick to Rubensteins. I guess it's hard
>to find, but I have seen it in upscale grocery stores for about 3
>bucks a can.

It's Van Camp's Wahoo but it is similar to good tuna and $2/can. It
is from Samoa so maybe because we are closer, it shows up in our local
store. Yummy. In Hawaii, we call wahoo- <ono>. Husband says Wahoo
(funny name isn't that?) is found through out the Pacific. Don't know
about the Atlantic but one rfc'er had seen ono on a menu IIRC. Maybe
s.f.?

aloha,
Cea
roast beans to kona to email
farmers of Pure Kona

> wrote:

>It's Van Camp's Wahoo but it is similar to good tuna and $2/can. It
>is from Samoa so maybe because we are closer, it shows up in our local
>store. Yummy. In Hawaii, we call wahoo- <ono>. Husband says Wahoo
>(funny name isn't that?) is found through out the Pacific.

Cool. I love ono, and if I saw it canned I would buy it.
Will have to look for it.

Steve

Nancy Young wrote:
> Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>> This is the poorest excuse for chunk tuna I've ever seen. Mush,
>> through and through. They're going to hear about this.
>
> I've noticed that for a long time and switched to solid white
> tuna. Even that wasn't all that anymore. I now buy either the
> Bumblebee stuff in the gold can or the Kirkland solid
> white albacore from Costco.
> nancy

Even the solid white isn't what it used to be. There is still a "mush"
factor. The stuff in the foil bags is firmer, but so much pricier.

--
Janet Wilder
Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
Good Friends. Good Life

On Thu 12 Jun 2008 01:55:05p, Melba's Jammin' told us...

> This is the poorest excuse for chunk tuna I've ever seen. Mush, through
> and through. They're going to hear about this.
>
> Tuna salad with mac and peas, bound with homemade mayo, on top of some
> green stuff for dinner tonight. Maybe some Triscuits, and corn relish
> or pickles for HWSRN. Marble bundt cake for dessert.

Even if we were going to "mush it up", my mom never bought anything but
solid white tuna, and back in the day it was usually Bumble Bee. A few
months back I thought I'd try a can of chunk tuna, and I share your
sentiments. It was horrible. We didn't eat it.

I can't remember which brand now, but either Bumble Bee or Starkist has a
solid white albacore (premium version) with a metallic gold label that is
quite good. There are also some store brands and less well known brands
that pack a good solid white tuna. I will *never* buy chunk tuna again.
It looks like cat food, but my cats didn't even like it. They will,
however, eat solid white tuna.


--
Wayne Boatwright
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The first duty of a revolutionary is
to get away with it - A. Hoffman
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Janet Wilder > wrote:

>Even the solid white isn't what it used to be. There is still a "mush"
>factor. The stuff in the foil bags is firmer, but so much pricier.

This sort of decline in quality is nearly certain to be
related to depletion of tuna fisheries.

Steve

Michael \"Dog3\" wrote:
>
> "Pete C." >
> : in rec.food.cooking
>
> >
> > It's mostly what I buy for tuna, Starkist Chunk Light in Sunflower Oil
> > pouch. I particularly like the pouch package for stocking my little
> > camper and not wasting the limited space. At home the tuna is used for
> > tuna salad 99% of the time, in the camper it's usually added to one of
> > the Knorr "sides" pasta and/or rice packages to make a complete, fast
> > one pan meal.
>
> I might give it a try then. For me at home the stackable cans are more
> convenient anyway. I can see using them in a camper for sure. Just about
> anything pouched would be more convenient in a camper.

Yep, pouch tuna, pouch pasta/rice sides, pouch oatmeal, pouch hot
chocolate, and of course the good ol' ramen noodle bricks, all compact
and lightweight packaging. Granted the camper does have a refrigerator,
but I still like to keep the baseline pantry stocked with space and
weight efficient stuff.

>
> I almost always use tuna in tuna salad. Sometimes I'll drain it real well
> and put it atop a bed of some type of lettuce with shaved onion, s&P, and a
> few squeezes of lemon. Maybe a smidge of tarragon too. I never really like
> the water packed tuna and almost always buy the oil packed. My cats like
> the oil packed better too

Yep, the water packed fad is for clueless suckers, those of us with a
clue wouldn't touch it with a 10' pole. The oil packed has much better
flavor and texture, as well as not turning your tuna salad into a watery
runny mess.

On Thu 12 Jun 2008 07:04:08p, Michael "Dog3" told us...

> Janet Wilder > news:4851cd9c$0$7252$c3e8da3
> @news.astraweb.com: in rec.food.cooking
>
>> Nancy Young wrote:
>>> I've noticed that for a long time and switched to solid white
>>> tuna. Even that wasn't all that anymore. I now buy either the
>>> Bumblebee stuff in the gold can or the Kirkland solid
>>> white albacore from Costco. nancy
>>
>> Even the solid white isn't what it used to be. There is still a "mush"
>> factor. The stuff in the foil bags is firmer, but so much pricier.
>
> True but it is much better than the other tuna. I'm just wondering if
tuna
> is plain old overfished and the quality is suffering, or, perhaps there
is
> something going on with the processing plants. I haven't read up on tuna
> current affairs in a long time.
>
> Michael
>
>
>

Well, it's high time you did, and report back to us! :-)

--
Wayne Boatwright
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Thursday, 06(VI)/12(XII)/08(MMVIII)
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Useless Invention: Rubber Kleenex.
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Michael \"Dog3\" wrote:
>
> Janet Wilder > news:4851cd9c$0$7252$c3e8da3
> @news.astraweb.com: in rec.food.cooking
>
> > Nancy Young wrote:
> >> I've noticed that for a long time and switched to solid white
> >> tuna. Even that wasn't all that anymore. I now buy either the
> >> Bumblebee stuff in the gold can or the Kirkland solid
> >> white albacore from Costco.
> >> nancy
> >
> > Even the solid white isn't what it used to be. There is still a "mush"
> > factor. The stuff in the foil bags is firmer, but so much pricier.
>
> True but it is much better than the other tuna. I'm just wondering if tuna
> is plain old overfished and the quality is suffering, or, perhaps there is
> something going on with the processing plants. I haven't read up on tuna
> current affairs in a long time.
>
> Michael


http://www.seafoodwatch.org

http://www.projectaware.org

Not that I entirely agree with them, but they've got some resources.

Michael "Dog3" wrote:

> True but it is much better than the other tuna. I'm just wondering if
> tuna is plain old overfished and the quality is suffering, or,
> perhaps there is something going on with the processing plants. I
> haven't read up on tuna current affairs in a long time.

Years ago someone wrote that the decline the the quality
of canned tuna had something to do with the advent of
dolphin-safe practices.

Who knows, but the time frame seemed to fit.

nancy

On Jun 12, 5:20�pm, "Pete C." > wrote:
> Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>
> > This is the poorest excuse for chunk tuna I've ever seen. �Mush, through
> > and through. �They're going to hear about this.
>
> > Tuna salad with mac and peas, bound with homemade mayo, on top of some
> > green stuff for dinner tonight. �Maybe some Triscuits, and corn relish
> > or pickles for HWSRN. �Marble bundt cake for dessert.
> > --
> > -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
> > Huffy and Bubbles Do France:http://www.jamlady.eboard.com
>
> Let me guess, you accidentally picked up the water packed version,
> right? The water packed version should be banned, they're *CRAP*. Even
> the late great Julia Child said that.
>
> Oil pack tuna is the only kind worth using, and due to the ignorant
> public thinking somehow an oily fish like tuna is suddenly bad for you
> if it's packed in oil, the oil pack is in the minority on the shelves.

And after the imbeciles squeeze it all dry they load their water pack
with a double ration of mayo. duh

The best canned tuna are those packed in olive oil... most every
national brand makes it too... it's typically sold at the more
upscale grocery stores and delis.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw...+oil&x=19&y=13


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Sheldon > wrote:

>The best canned tuna are those packed in olive oil... most every
>national brand makes it too... it's typically sold at the more
>upscale grocery stores and delis.

I'll go along with this assessment. Certainly tuna packed
in non-olive oil is a non-starter as far as I'm concerned.

But I don't particularly know that water-packed tuna,
drained and then combined with olive oil, would be
significantly different. I suppose there might well
be a difference.

Steve

Nancy Young wrote:
>
> Michael "Dog3" wrote:
>
> > True but it is much better than the other tuna. I'm just wondering if
> > tuna is plain old overfished and the quality is suffering, or,
> > perhaps there is something going on with the processing plants. I
> > haven't read up on tuna current affairs in a long time.
>
> Years ago someone wrote that the decline the the quality
> of canned tuna had something to do with the advent of
> dolphin-safe practices.
>
> Who knows, but the time frame seemed to fit.
>
> nancy

Not sure about that one, I'd have to see some detail on just what the
connection is supposed to be.

The timing would also fit the introduction of the huge processing
factory ships, though those should improve quality by processing much
sooner after the fish are caught than the old wait until the ship comes
in weeks later method.

HiTech RedNeck wrote:

>
> "Billy" <Hereiam@hotmaildotcom> wrote in message
> ...
>> On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:55:05 -0500, Melba's Jammin'
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >This is the poorest excuse for chunk tuna I've ever seen. Mush,
>> >through and through. They're going to hear about this.
>>
>> ooohh...yuck.... The ONLY one I use is StarKist Solid White Albacore
>> packed in water. Chunk tuna is always mushy to me.
>
> I've also seen this situation with Bumble Bee and other major brands. It
> seems that what in years past was called "grated tuna" (have you ever seen
> "grated tuna" in supermarkets recently? I haven't, but I remember it from
> decades ago, when I used it as a pet cat treat) now qualifies as "chunk."

Aye. I've been thinking just that, every time I open a can of "chunk",
for years, now, regardless of brand.

But I didn't even think about the lack of honestly-labeled "grated", but
yeah -- I think you're right about it not being around any more.


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On Jun 12, 6:37�pm, Christine Dabney > wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:33:10 -0500, "Pete C." >
> wrote:
>
> >> Christine, who wonders if she is missing something here..
>
> >Not missing anything.
>
> Whew... �
>
> I went and looked it up, since I didn't know if I was wrong or not. �I
> found this...
>
> >The most popular fish used for canning today, tuna is a member of the mackerel family and is prized for its distinctively rich-flavored flesh that is moderate to high in fat, firmly textured, flaky and tender.
>
> This is from:http://www.tunafacts.com/abouttuna/catchtocan.html
>
> Other sources say the same. �
>
> Christine

Sure tuna is a fatty fish, but what that web site doesn't tell you is
it's fatty only when eaten fresh and whole, with the power of
suggestion they lead you to believe it's in canned tunna, not! With
the canned version nearly all the fish oil is removed and replaced
with vegetable broth (water pack) or vegetable oil, usually soy (oil
pack). Fish fat is in those dark portions under the skin, especially
along the dorsal portion... most people scrape it away and toss it in
the garbage Fish oil is costly, the canned tuna industry extracts the
fish fat and makes more profit from it than they do from selling
canned tuna, fish oil is used in many industries. It's even worse
with salmon... folks think they're ingesting all that omega 3 fatty
acid, not, in most cases it's scraped away.... folks don't eat those
parts of canned salmon, in restaurants (if served at all) they leave
it at the edge of their plate. I noticed of late there is canned
salmon sold totally filleted of all skin, dark fatty portions, and no
bones... none of the most nutritious portions are included... why
include it, folks today don't eat those "nasty" parts, they much
rather a trans fat loaded breaded plastic fish sandwich from a fast
food joint.