Well it is a simple supper tonight at the end of June I'm getting serious
about low carb again...Supper tonight is an indulgence in rice....Long
grain rice cooked in canned beef consomee with halved small mushrooms and a
sprinkling of parm cheese when I fluff it. Of course the pat of butter and
sprinkling of salt went into the pot as well. Rice ain't rice unless it is
cooked with salt. It is one of those things where no amount of salt added
later makes up for cooking it saltl-free.

Saturday I get to pig out on tater salad after that it's back to low carbs
untill I drop 20 lbs and after losing the 20 I'll try and stay medium carb
or South Beach for life. Damn it I hate when I let things slide.

--

The house of the burning beet-Alan

On Tue 17 Jun 2008 06:25:32p, hahabogus told us...

> Well it is a simple supper tonight at the end of June I'm getting
> serious about low carb again...Supper tonight is an indulgence in
> rice....Long grain rice cooked in canned beef consomee with halved small
> mushrooms and a sprinkling of parm cheese when I fluff it. Of course the
> pat of butter and sprinkling of salt went into the pot as well. Rice
> ain't rice unless it is cooked with salt. It is one of those things
> where no amount of salt added later makes up for cooking it saltl-free.

That sounds like a tasty rice dish. The only time I don't use salt in
cooking rice is when I will be using a gravy that has plenty on its own.

> Saturday I get to pig out on tater salad after that it's back to low
> carbs untill I drop 20 lbs and after losing the 20 I'll try and stay
> medium carb or South Beach for life. Damn it I hate when I let things
> slide.

I have backslid, too, and it really ****es me off that I let it happen.
We're being very good at present and beginning to see results. There are
only two upcoming events that I *plan* to be bad. The first is the 4th of
July, and the second is in late July for a dear friend's 90th birthday
party. I am baking the cakes and I never bake anything I don't eat. :-)
There will also be a goodly variety of "forbidden" foods. Then it's
immediately back on WW for us.

--
Wayne Boatwright
-------------------------------------------
Tuesday, 06(VI)/17(XVII)/08(MMVIII)
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-------------------------------------------
Conclusion: the place where you got
tired of thinking.
-------------------------------------------

On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 01:36:06 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:


>I have backslid, too, and it really ****es me off that I let it happen.
>We're being very good at present and beginning to see results. There are
>only two upcoming events that I *plan* to be bad. The first is the 4th of
>July, and the second is in late July for a dear friend's 90th birthday
>party. I am baking the cakes and I never bake anything I don't eat. :-)
>There will also be a goodly variety of "forbidden" foods. Then it's
>immediately back on WW for us.

I have been really bad lately too. And I didn't help it tonight by
making a loaf of the bread from the Artisan bread book. It has been
calling to me....

Maybe this summer we can help each other by posting some of the
recipes that we are using...for weight loss, for healthy eating, etc.
I have really become conscious of it in the last few days, with the
death of Tim Russert. I know that eating healthily can only help
me...

Christine

On Tue 17 Jun 2008 06:41:51p, Christine Dabney told us...

> On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 01:36:06 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> > wrote:
>
>
>>I have backslid, too, and it really ****es me off that I let it happen.
>>We're being very good at present and beginning to see results. There are
>>only two upcoming events that I *plan* to be bad. The first is the 4th
of
>>July, and the second is in late July for a dear friend's 90th birthday
>>party. I am baking the cakes and I never bake anything I don't eat. :-)
>>There will also be a goodly variety of "forbidden" foods. Then it's
>>immediately back on WW for us.
>
> I have been really bad lately too. And I didn't help it tonight by
> making a loaf of the bread from the Artisan bread book. It has been
> calling to me....

That loaf would probably call me to consume it entirely! Homemade bread
and I are not easily separated. :-)

> Maybe this summer we can help each other by posting some of the
> recipes that we are using...for weight loss, for healthy eating, etc.
> I have really become conscious of it in the last few days, with the
> death of Tim Russert. I know that eating healthily can only help
> me...

You have a great idea, but I confess to not being terribly inventive when
it comes to what we eat on WW. Mostly it's grilled well-seasoned chicken
and steamed and very lightly butter vegetables. This is where it gets
tricky, because of David's unwillingness to each much variety. Damn him!
There are tons of things I would/could make that qualify as low calorie,
low fat, and healthy, but you think he would eat them? Hell no. I have
probably at least 2 shelves of nothing but cookbooks that are for very
healthy food. I ask him to pick out recipes he would be willing to eat and
he comes up with zero. Alas!


> Christine
>



--
Wayne Boatwright
-------------------------------------------
Tuesday, 06(VI)/17(XVII)/08(MMVIII)
-------------------------------------------
-------------------------------------------
If you associate with the wise, you
will become wise.
-------------------------------------------

>
> Saturday I get to pig out on tater salad after that it's back to low carbs
> untill I drop 20 lbs and after losing the 20 I'll try and stay medium carb
> or South Beach for life. Damn it I hate when I let things slide.
>
> --
>
> The house of the burning beet-Alan

Yeah, me too. I was going to gym almost every day, then caught a bad
cold and almost as soon as I recovered, I had company for about a
week. Saturday is going to be the beginning of gym day.

OB: dinner tonite. leftover meatloaf sandwich & tabbouli.

Harriet & critters (J J the world famous jack russell terrior, asleep
under the computer desk; and Ms P K, the lady manx who rules the house
and who will be getting her hunk of chicken liver tonite)

On Tue 17 Jun 2008 06:49:34p, mequeenbe.nospam told us...

>
>
>>
>> Saturday I get to pig out on tater salad after that it's back to low
carbs
>> untill I drop 20 lbs and after losing the 20 I'll try and stay medium
carb
>> or South Beach for life. Damn it I hate when I let things slide.
>>
>> --
>>
>> The house of the burning beet-Alan
>
> Yeah, me too. I was going to gym almost every day, then caught a bad
> cold and almost as soon as I recovered, I had company for about a
> week. Saturday is going to be the beginning of gym day.
>
> OB: dinner tonite. leftover meatloaf sandwich & tabbouli.
>
> Harriet & critters (J J the world famous jack russell terrior, asleep
> under the computer desk; and Ms P K, the lady manx who rules the house
> and who will be getting her hunk of chicken liver tonite)
>

Can I come for the leftovers, Harriet? Two of my favaorites!

--
Wayne Boatwright
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Tuesday, 06(VI)/17(XVII)/08(MMVIII)
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Hail / Praise / Ia / **** / Grep / Eat
Eris / 'Bob' / Cthulhu / The
Conspiracy / Kibo / Spam
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Christine Dabney > wrote:

>I have been really bad lately too. And I didn't help it tonight by
>making a loaf of the bread from the Artisan bread book. It has been
>calling to me....

>Maybe this summer we can help each other by posting some of the
>recipes that we are using...for weight loss, for healthy eating, etc.
>I have really become conscious of it in the last few days, with the
>death of Tim Russert. I know that eating healthily can only help
>me...

Although not too significant, I gained five pounds in my
first two weeks of being essentially non-ambulatory due to gout.
The next two weeks of being non-ambulatory I lost it back.
Oddly enough, I do attribute this to cutting all meat/fish
from my diet, and nearly all tofu and legumes. I was really
consuming more calories than I realized in all those main
course protein items...

Steve

On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 01:58:28 +0000 (UTC),
(Steve Pope) wrote:


>Oddly enough, I do attribute this to cutting all meat/fish
>from my diet, and nearly all tofu and legumes. I was really
>consuming more calories than I realized in all those main
>course protein items...
>
>Steve

What were you eating if you weren't eating those things?

Christine

Wayne Boatwright > wrote in
6.120:

> On Tue 17 Jun 2008 06:41:51p, Christine Dabney told us...
>
>> On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 01:36:06 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
>> > wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I have backslid, too, and it really ****es me off that I let it
>>>happen. We're being very good at present and beginning to see
>>>results. There are only two upcoming events that I *plan* to be bad.
>>> The first is the 4th
> of
>>>July, and the second is in late July for a dear friend's 90th
>>>birthday party. I am baking the cakes and I never bake anything I
>>>don't eat. :-) There will also be a goodly variety of "forbidden"
>>>foods. Then it's immediately back on WW for us.
>>
>> I have been really bad lately too. And I didn't help it tonight by
>> making a loaf of the bread from the Artisan bread book. It has been
>> calling to me....
>
> That loaf would probably call me to consume it entirely! Homemade
> bread and I are not easily separated. :-)
>
>> Maybe this summer we can help each other by posting some of the
>> recipes that we are using...for weight loss, for healthy eating, etc.
>> I have really become conscious of it in the last few days, with the
>> death of Tim Russert. I know that eating healthily can only help
>> me...
>
> You have a great idea, but I confess to not being terribly inventive
> when it comes to what we eat on WW. Mostly it's grilled well-seasoned
> chicken and steamed and very lightly butter vegetables. This is where
> it gets tricky, because of David's unwillingness to each much variety.
> Damn him! There are tons of things I would/could make that qualify
> as low calorie, low fat, and healthy, but you think he would eat
> them? Hell no. I have probably at least 2 shelves of nothing but
> cookbooks that are for very healthy food. I ask him to pick out
> recipes he would be willing to eat and he comes up with zero. Alas!
>
>
>> Christine
>>
>
>
>

Roasted Cauliflower...seasoned with cury powder or taco seasoning or not,
raw or steamed/boiled cauliflower, green bean almondine, french cut green
beans, smoked red bell peppers (very nice), grilled zuccinni basted with
salad dressing, grilled large mushrooms also basted with salad dressing.
Green Salads with oil and vinegar or kraft ranch based dressings light on
tomatoes and onions, brocolli, spinach, asparagus, cabbage, Cukes and
diakon in vinegar with crushed red pepper flakes as a table condiment.
Mayo on anything that looks like it might need it. Hard cheeses, meat,
seafood, nuts, sunflower/pumpkin seeds, butter and eggs. Light on the
squashes like the zukes, spaghetti and the acorn squash. all the butter
you want, all the meat you want this what makes it work for me.

I spin chickens with thin citrus fruit slices under the skin a great
deal. This keeps me in the 20-ish grams in carb intake during the day.
So I lose about 5 lbs a month give or take. Stir fries are your friend
but the rice or noodles aren't.

But all this leaves me craving rice...hence the rice overload tonight, to
tide me over 6 months and the potato salad overload on Saturday.

Tomato, onion, squash, carrot, peas are all controlled substances and use
is restricted to a minimum. Any use of wheat, corn, rice and potatoes is
totally forbidden.

I use the free database downloadable from the usfda to keep me honest in
my carb count. And NO Snacking!

--

The house of the burning beet-Alan

On Tue 17 Jun 2008 07:39:23p, hahabogus told us...

> Wayne Boatwright > wrote in
> 6.120:
>
>> On Tue 17 Jun 2008 06:41:51p, Christine Dabney told us...
>>
>>> On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 01:36:06 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I have backslid, too, and it really ****es me off that I let it
>>>>happen. We're being very good at present and beginning to see
>>>>results. There are only two upcoming events that I *plan* to be bad.
>>>> The first is the 4th of
>>>>July, and the second is in late July for a dear friend's 90th
>>>>birthday party. I am baking the cakes and I never bake anything I
>>>>don't eat. :-) There will also be a goodly variety of "forbidden"
>>>>foods. Then it's immediately back on WW for us.
>>>
>>> I have been really bad lately too. And I didn't help it tonight by
>>> making a loaf of the bread from the Artisan bread book. It has been
>>> calling to me....
>>
>> That loaf would probably call me to consume it entirely! Homemade
>> bread and I are not easily separated. :-)
>>
>>> Maybe this summer we can help each other by posting some of the
>>> recipes that we are using...for weight loss, for healthy eating, etc.
>>> I have really become conscious of it in the last few days, with the
>>> death of Tim Russert. I know that eating healthily can only help
>>> me...
>>
>> You have a great idea, but I confess to not being terribly inventive
>> when it comes to what we eat on WW. Mostly it's grilled well-seasoned
>> chicken and steamed and very lightly butter vegetables. This is where
>> it gets tricky, because of David's unwillingness to each much variety.
>> Damn him! There are tons of things I would/could make that qualify
>> as low calorie, low fat, and healthy, but you think he would eat
>> them? Hell no. I have probably at least 2 shelves of nothing but
>> cookbooks that are for very healthy food. I ask him to pick out
>> recipes he would be willing to eat and he comes up with zero. Alas!
>>
>>
>>> Christine
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> Roasted Cauliflower...seasoned with cury powder or taco seasoning or not,
> raw or steamed/boiled cauliflower, green bean almondine, french cut green
> beans, smoked red bell peppers (very nice), grilled zuccinni basted with
> salad dressing, grilled large mushrooms also basted with salad dressing.
> Green Salads with oil and vinegar or kraft ranch based dressings light on
> tomatoes and onions, brocolli, spinach, asparagus, cabbage, Cukes and
> diakon in vinegar with crushed red pepper flakes as a table condiment.
> Mayo on anything that looks like it might need it. Hard cheeses, meat,
> seafood, nuts, sunflower/pumpkin seeds, butter and eggs. Light on the
> squashes like the zukes, spaghetti and the acorn squash. all the butter
> you want, all the meat you want this what makes it work for me.
>
> I spin chickens with thin citrus fruit slices under the skin a great
> deal. This keeps me in the 20-ish grams in carb intake during the day.
> So I lose about 5 lbs a month give or take. Stir fries are your friend
> but the rice or noodles aren't.
>
> But all this leaves me craving rice...hence the rice overload tonight, to
> tide me over 6 months and the potato salad overload on Saturday.
>
> Tomato, onion, squash, carrot, peas are all controlled substances and use
> is restricted to a minimum. Any use of wheat, corn, rice and potatoes is
> totally forbidden.
>
> I use the free database downloadable from the usfda to keep me honest in
> my carb count. And NO Snacking!
>

Alan, I would eat and enjoy every one of the things you listed, but David
might only eat one. That's my dilemma.

We don't count carbs, but we do count WW Points. Works for us, and carbs
are naturally minimized if you adhere to their recommendations.

--
Wayne Boatwright
-------------------------------------------
Tuesday, 06(VI)/17(XVII)/08(MMVIII)
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-------------------------------------------
Ban Censorship!
-------------------------------------------

Christine Dabney > wrote:

>On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 01:58:28 +0000 (UTC),

>>Oddly enough, I do attribute this to cutting all meat/fish
>>from my diet, and nearly all tofu and legumes. I was really
>>consuming more calories than I realized in all those main
>>course protein items...

>What were you eating if you weren't eating those things?

Under my current regime I am getting nearly all my macronutrients from
refined wheat, corn, potatoes, rice, dairy, and eggs (primarily egg
whites), all of which have very low purine, especially dairy
since milk is not cellular in nature. I am freely consuming some
vegetables like summer squash and onion, but avoiding peppers,
asparagus and mushroom. I am eating very small (compared to
before) quantities of garbanzo beans, whole wheat, tofu, and
other vegetables. I am eating some fruits.

I am trying to get at least 25 grams of protein/day from dairy,
so that I only need 25 additional grams/day from other sources.

I don't know how long I'll have to do this, but I could return
to a more varied diet in perhaps 10 weeks if all goes well.

Steve

Steve Pope > wrote:

>Under my current regime I am getting nearly all my macronutrients from
>refined wheat, corn, potatoes, rice, dairy, and eggs (primarily egg
>whites), all of which have very low purine, especially dairy
>since milk is not cellular in nature.

I forgot to include oil on this list, which I am using a little
more liberally now, and is also zero-purine.

>I am freely consuming some
>vegetables like summer squash and onion, but avoiding peppers,
>asparagus and mushroom. I am eating very small (compared to
>before) quantities of garbanzo beans, whole wheat, tofu, and
>other vegetables. I am eating some fruits.
>
>I am trying to get at least 25 grams of protein/day from dairy,
>so that I only need 25 additional grams/day from other sources.

Steve

"Wayne Boatwright" > ha scritto nel messaggio

I never bake anything I don't eat. :-)

> --

Thnak God I do I cannot even imagine what I would be like if I ate
everything I cooked.

On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 01:49:28 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>You have a great idea, but I confess to not being terribly inventive when
>it comes to what we eat on WW.

I haven't done WW for a gazillion years, but I remember their
cookbooks had great recipes.

A friend at the time make a dish from a WW cookbook I didn't own that
was chicken breast cooked in BUTTER, served on noodles with a sprinkle
of parmesan cheese on top. It seemed entirely decadent, but calorie
wise.... it was right on target. Yummy!


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:49:34 -0700 (PDT), "mequeenbe.nospam"
> wrote:

>Harriet & critters (J J the world famous jack russell terrior, asleep
>under the computer desk; and Ms P K, the lady manx who rules the house
>and who will be getting her hunk of chicken liver tonite)

Nice to see you back, Harriet! Where have you been?


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 03:37:38 +0000 (UTC),
(Steve Pope) wrote:

>macronutrients

Jeeze Steve, can you sound any *more* Berkeley????

LOLOL


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

On Tue 17 Jun 2008 11:58:42p, sf told us...

> On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 01:49:28 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> > wrote:
>
>>You have a great idea, but I confess to not being terribly inventive when
>>it comes to what we eat on WW.
>
> I haven't done WW for a gazillion years, but I remember their
> cookbooks had great recipes.
>
> A friend at the time make a dish from a WW cookbook I didn't own that
> was chicken breast cooked in BUTTER, served on noodles with a sprinkle
> of parmesan cheese on top. It seemed entirely decadent, but calorie
> wise.... it was right on target. Yummy!
>
>

I have several WW cookbooks, but David has yet to come up with one of their
recipes that he's willing to eat. He needs to be slapped upside the head.

--
Wayne Boatwright
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Wednesday, 06(VI)/18(XVIII)/08(MMVIII)
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Bumper sticker: 'All the parts falling
off this car are of the very finest
British manufacture'
-------------------------------------------

On Tue 17 Jun 2008 11:41:16p, Giusi told us...

>
>
> "Wayne Boatwright" > ha scritto nel messaggio
>
> I never bake anything I don't eat. :-)
>
>> --
>
> Thnak God I do I cannot even imagine what I would be like if I ate
> everything I cooked.
>
>
>

LOL! Why do you think I'm on WW? :-)

--
Wayne Boatwright
-------------------------------------------
Wednesday, 06(VI)/18(XVIII)/08(MMVIII)
-------------------------------------------
-------------------------------------------
Never appeal to a man's 'better
nature'. He may not have one.
-------------------------------------------

hahabogus wrote:
> Well it is a simple supper tonight at the end of June I'm getting serious
> about low carb again...Supper tonight is an indulgence in rice....Long
> grain rice cooked in canned beef consomee with halved small mushrooms and a
> sprinkling of parm cheese when I fluff it. Of course the pat of butter and
> sprinkling of salt went into the pot as well. Rice ain't rice unless it is
> cooked with salt. It is one of those things where no amount of salt added
> later makes up for cooking it saltl-free.
>
> Saturday I get to pig out on tater salad after that it's back to low carbs
> untill I drop 20 lbs and after losing the 20 I'll try and stay medium carb
> or South Beach for life. Damn it I hate when I let things slide.
>
Erm... We're in about the same boat. It is time for me to go back to
lc'ing again too. I dunno why I ever go off the straight and narrow,
since after one gets over the initial hurdle, it's not that onerous. Do
you indulge in fruits and veggies and just eliminate the useless refined
things, or do you eliminate most fruits and some veggies too? I guess
that's one of my issues.

--
Jean B.

Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> You have a great idea, but I confess to not being terribly inventive when
> it comes to what we eat on WW. Mostly it's grilled well-seasoned chicken
> and steamed and very lightly butter vegetables. This is where it gets
> tricky, because of David's unwillingness to each much variety. Damn him!
> There are tons of things I would/could make that qualify as low calorie,
> low fat, and healthy, but you think he would eat them? Hell no. I have
> probably at least 2 shelves of nothing but cookbooks that are for very
> healthy food. I ask him to pick out recipes he would be willing to eat and
> he comes up with zero. Alas!
>

That sounds a bit like my daughter. :-( And it does make it harder to
behave myself.

--
Jean B.

hahabogus wrote:
> Wayne Boatwright > wrote in
> 6.120:
>
>> On Tue 17 Jun 2008 06:41:51p, Christine Dabney told us...
>>
>>> On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 01:36:06 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> I have backslid, too, and it really ****es me off that I let it
>>>> happen. We're being very good at present and beginning to see
>>>> results. There are only two upcoming events that I *plan* to be bad.
>>>> The first is the 4th
>> of
>>>> July, and the second is in late July for a dear friend's 90th
>>>> birthday party. I am baking the cakes and I never bake anything I
>>>> don't eat. :-) There will also be a goodly variety of "forbidden"
>>>> foods. Then it's immediately back on WW for us.
>>> I have been really bad lately too. And I didn't help it tonight by
>>> making a loaf of the bread from the Artisan bread book. It has been
>>> calling to me....
>> That loaf would probably call me to consume it entirely! Homemade
>> bread and I are not easily separated. :-)
>>
>>> Maybe this summer we can help each other by posting some of the
>>> recipes that we are using...for weight loss, for healthy eating, etc.
>>> I have really become conscious of it in the last few days, with the
>>> death of Tim Russert. I know that eating healthily can only help
>>> me...
>> You have a great idea, but I confess to not being terribly inventive
>> when it comes to what we eat on WW. Mostly it's grilled well-seasoned
>> chicken and steamed and very lightly butter vegetables. This is where
>> it gets tricky, because of David's unwillingness to each much variety.
>> Damn him! There are tons of things I would/could make that qualify
>> as low calorie, low fat, and healthy, but you think he would eat
>> them? Hell no. I have probably at least 2 shelves of nothing but
>> cookbooks that are for very healthy food. I ask him to pick out
>> recipes he would be willing to eat and he comes up with zero. Alas!
>>
>>
>>> Christine
>>>
>>
>>
>
> Roasted Cauliflower...seasoned with cury powder or taco seasoning or not,
> raw or steamed/boiled cauliflower, green bean almondine, french cut green
> beans, smoked red bell peppers (very nice), grilled zuccinni basted with
> salad dressing, grilled large mushrooms also basted with salad dressing.
> Green Salads with oil and vinegar or kraft ranch based dressings light on
> tomatoes and onions, brocolli, spinach, asparagus, cabbage, Cukes and
> diakon in vinegar with crushed red pepper flakes as a table condiment.
> Mayo on anything that looks like it might need it. Hard cheeses, meat,
> seafood, nuts, sunflower/pumpkin seeds, butter and eggs. Light on the
> squashes like the zukes, spaghetti and the acorn squash. all the butter
> you want, all the meat you want this what makes it work for me.
>
> I spin chickens with thin citrus fruit slices under the skin a great
> deal. This keeps me in the 20-ish grams in carb intake during the day.
> So I lose about 5 lbs a month give or take. Stir fries are your friend
> but the rice or noodles aren't.
>
> But all this leaves me craving rice...hence the rice overload tonight, to
> tide me over 6 months and the potato salad overload on Saturday.
>
> Tomato, onion, squash, carrot, peas are all controlled substances and use
> is restricted to a minimum. Any use of wheat, corn, rice and potatoes is
> totally forbidden.
>
> I use the free database downloadable from the usfda to keep me honest in
> my carb count. And NO Snacking!
>
Why do you lump summer squashes in with winter ones? I think summer
ones are LC.

--
Jean B.

"hahabogus" > wrote in message
...
> Well it is a simple supper tonight at the end of June I'm getting serious
> about low carb again...Supper tonight is an indulgence in rice....Long
> grain rice cooked in canned beef consomee with halved small mushrooms and
> a
> sprinkling of parm cheese when I fluff it. Of course the pat of butter and
> sprinkling of salt went into the pot as well. Rice ain't rice unless it is
> cooked with salt. It is one of those things where no amount of salt added
> later makes up for cooking it saltl-free.
>
> Saturday I get to pig out on tater salad after that it's back to low carbs
> untill I drop 20 lbs and after losing the 20 I'll try and stay medium carb
> or South Beach for life. Damn it I hate when I let things slide.
>
Alan,
Sounds nice, I'll have to try this tonight.

A variation of this I've been made a few times now is to sauté a chopped
large shallot in a teaspoon of butter till softened, add canned chicken
stock, some chiffonaded (sp?) fresh thyme, some ground pepper and a cup of
basmati rice. The regular canned stock has enough salt to avoid having to
add more.

I've been letting things slide for years and have just started trying to get
myself back into some semblance of shape. I've dropped 10 lbs so far (2
months) and am hoping to lose another 20 by the end of the year. Its really
rough when you love good food and drink to 'just say no'. I've never met a
skinny gourmand.

Jon

On Wed 18 Jun 2008 06:43:56a, Jean B. told us...

> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>> You have a great idea, but I confess to not being terribly inventive
>> when it comes to what we eat on WW. Mostly it's grilled well-seasoned
>> chicken and steamed and very lightly butter vegetables. This is where
>> it gets tricky, because of David's unwillingness to each much variety.
>> Damn him! There are tons of things I would/could make that qualify as
>> low calorie, low fat, and healthy, but you think he would eat them?
>> Hell no. I have probably at least 2 shelves of nothing but cookbooks
>> that are for very healthy food. I ask him to pick out recipes he would
>> be willing to eat and he comes up with zero. Alas!
>>
>
> That sounds a bit like my daughter. :-( And it does make it harder to
> behave myself.
>

Indeed!

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Wayne Boatwright
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Cat philosophy - when in doubt, cop an
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sf > wrote:

>On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 03:37:38 +0000 (UTC),
>(Steve Pope) wrote:

>>macronutrients

>Jeeze Steve, can you sound any *more* Berkeley????

AFAIK this is a mainstream term mearning protein, carbs and fats.

Steve

On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 18:10:13 +0000 (UTC),
(Steve Pope) wrote:

>sf > wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 03:37:38 +0000 (UTC),
>>(Steve Pope) wrote:
>
>>>macronutrients
>
>>Jeeze Steve, can you sound any *more* Berkeley????
>
>AFAIK this is a mainstream term mearning protein, carbs and fats.
>

Sorry, guy.... it's not in my vocabulary. Never saw or heard the word
before you wrote it here.


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I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

sf wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:49:34 -0700 (PDT), "mequeenbe.nospam"
> > wrote:
>
> >Harriet & critters (J J the world famous jack russell terrior, asleep
> >under the computer desk; and Ms P K, the lady manx who rules the house
> >and who will be getting her hunk of chicken liver tonite)
>
> Nice to see you back, Harriet! Where have you been?
>
>
thank you for the kind words...i've had a lot of drama/soap opera
stuff going on during the last two years, but all of that is now
behind me, and time to carry on!

On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 20:22:15 -0700 (PDT), "mequeenbe.nospam"
> wrote:

>
>
>sf wrote:
>> On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:49:34 -0700 (PDT), "mequeenbe.nospam"
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >Harriet & critters (J J the world famous jack russell terrior, asleep
>> >under the computer desk; and Ms P K, the lady manx who rules the house
>> >and who will be getting her hunk of chicken liver tonite)
>>
>> Nice to see you back, Harriet! Where have you been?
>>
>>
>thank you for the kind words...i've had a lot of drama/soap opera
>stuff going on during the last two years, but all of that is now
>behind me, and time to carry on!

take back to your old nick.... if you still have critters!


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I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West