Thought I would try this as a coffee creamer, and, well, it takes so much
to lighten the coffee, it winds up cold.

Those of you who use it, what do you use it for?

And is anyone concerned about the plant estrogens in soy?

"cybercat" > wrote in message
...
> Thought I would try this as a coffee creamer, and, well, it takes so much
> to lighten the coffee, it winds up cold.
>
> Those of you who use it, what do you use it for?
>
> And is anyone concerned about the plant estrogens in soy?
>

Try Soy Coffee Creamer .. it works much better in coffee than the soy milk
does.
I use soy milk (or rice milk) for almost everything that I use milk for
....baked goods, drinking, making mac n cheese (I use soy cheese as well).

"Woolstitcher" > wrote
>
> Try Soy Coffee Creamer .. it works much better in coffee than the soy milk
> does.

Well that makes sense! lol I didn't see that, but then I was not looking for
it.


> I use soy milk (or rice milk) for almost everything that I use milk for
> ...baked goods, drinking, making mac n cheese (I use soy cheese as well).
>
What do you think about the concerns some raise about the plant estrogens
in soy products? If anything?

"cybercat" > wrote in message
...
> Thought I would try this as a coffee creamer, and, well, it takes so much
> to lighten the coffee, it winds up cold.
>
> Those of you who use it, what do you use it for?
>
> And is anyone concerned about the plant estrogens in soy?

I don't use it for coffee (prefer my coffee black). I do use it for a
morning protein drink. Either with protein powder (Zerocarb, choc/peanut
butter flavor - YUMMMMM!), or with fruit and a smidge of splenda. I don't
know enough about plant estrogens to be concerned :-) I'm a tofu eater as
well, and love to snack on edamame. Been known to roast soy nuts (as well
as chickpeas) too. Does this make me a soyaholic?

TammyM, healthy as all get-out <knock on wood> with an immune system that
rocks the shop <ditto>

"cybercat" > wrote in message
...
> Thought I would try this as a coffee creamer, and, well, it takes so much to
> lighten the coffee, it winds up cold.
>
> Those of you who use it, what do you use it for?
>
> And is anyone concerned about the plant estrogens in soy?


For a while, my husband was using it in his iced drinks (latte, etc) because he has
some problems with dairy, but now we switched to a different drink so we don't use it
at all anymore. My brother has a son who can't have dairy, and they tried soy milk
for a while, but he didn't like it, so they've switched to rice milk for him.

Not very helpful, was I? ;-)

And no, we never worried about the plant estrogens in soy milk.

kimberly

cybercat > wrote:

>Thought I would try this as a coffee creamer, and, well, it takes so much
>to lighten the coffee, it winds up cold.

>Those of you who use it, what do you use it for?

I use soymilk for my morning coffee, and that's it. Either
the coffee must be very hot, or pre-heat the soymilk in
the microwave. Unlike cow milk, coffee mixed with soymilk
is okay to heat in a microwave as well.

Unsweetened soymilk is a healthful beverage but I prefer
almond milk for things like a bowl of cereal.

Steve

cybercat wrote:
> Thought I would try this as a coffee creamer, and, well, it takes so much
> to lighten the coffee, it winds up cold.
>
> Those of you who use it, what do you use it for?
>
> And is anyone concerned about the plant estrogens in soy?

What's your opinion on hemp milk?

Pennyaline > wrote:

>What's your opinion on hemp milk?

Tastes like bongwater.

Actually, some brands are okay, some are very Earthy
and Funky. I don't see them often around here (they're
more popular up on the North Coast, for some reason).
Even the best brands are sweetened and quite pronounced
in flavor -- I suspect an acquired taste.

Steve

"cybercat" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Woolstitcher" > wrote
>>
>> Try Soy Coffee Creamer .. it works much better in coffee than the soy
>> milk does.
>
> Well that makes sense! lol I didn't see that, but then I was not looking
> for it.
>
>
>> I use soy milk (or rice milk) for almost everything that I use milk for
>> ...baked goods, drinking, making mac n cheese (I use soy cheese as well).
>>
> What do you think about the concerns some raise about the plant estrogens
> in soy products? If anything?
>

I think there are a lot of people w/ nothing better to do than spout stats
that have no meaning. To release enough plant estrogens to have a neg.
affect on a human you would have to eat more than 15 - 30 pounds of soy a
day. While I like soy ... I don't like it THAT much lol
I think it's all about balance.

"TammyM" > wrote in message
...
>
> "cybercat" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Thought I would try this as a coffee creamer, and, well, it takes so much
>> to lighten the coffee, it winds up cold.
>>
>> Those of you who use it, what do you use it for?
>>
>> And is anyone concerned about the plant estrogens in soy?
>
> I don't use it for coffee (prefer my coffee black). I do use it for a
> morning protein drink. Either with protein powder (Zerocarb, choc/peanut
> butter flavor - YUMMMMM!), or with fruit and a smidge of splenda. I don't
> know enough about plant estrogens to be concerned :-) I'm a tofu eater as
> well, and love to snack on edamame. Been known to roast soy nuts (as well
> as chickpeas) too. Does this make me a soyaholic?

How do you roast chick peas? I tried it once and ended up w/ rocks.

>
> TammyM, healthy as all get-out <knock on wood> with an immune system that
> rocks the shop <ditto>
>

"Pennyaline" > wrote in message
...
> cybercat wrote:
>> Thought I would try this as a coffee creamer, and, well, it takes so much
>> to lighten the coffee, it winds up cold.
>>
>> Those of you who use it, what do you use it for?
>>
>> And is anyone concerned about the plant estrogens in soy?
>
> What's your opinion on hemp milk?

Hemp milk? never seen it. What is it like?

Woolstitcher > wrote:

>"Pennyaline" > wrote in message

>> What's your opinion on hemp milk?

>Hemp milk? never seen it. What is it like?

It's hard to find one that isn't a little too funky tasting
even for me. And they are all sweetened. Hemp is not
naturally attractive tasting. Probably the perceived
health benefits are the main draw.

Steve

"Steve Pope" > wrote in message
...
> Woolstitcher > wrote:
>
>>"Pennyaline" > wrote in message
>
>>> What's your opinion on hemp milk?
>
>>Hemp milk? never seen it. What is it like?
>
> It's hard to find one that isn't a little too funky tasting
> even for me. And they are all sweetened. Hemp is not
> naturally attractive tasting. Probably the perceived
> health benefits are the main draw.
>
> Steve

I'm not sure I would buy it, I'm pretty happy w/ soy,rice and nut milks ...
Given that hemp isn't all that good tasting in any form I'm not sure that
I would be inspired to drink it.

Woolstitcher > wrote:

>I'm not sure I would buy it, I'm pretty happy w/ soy,rice and nut milks ...
>Given that hemp isn't all that good tasting in any form I'm not sure that
>I would be inspired to drink it.

I think the rationale would be that hemp like soy is complete
protein, but without the controversial compounds some people
believe are in soy.

Nut, rice, etc. milk does not contain complete protein.
(Whether this could be important in even a small fraction
of individual diets is unclear... it's not like these products
are major protein sources.)

Steve

"Woolstitcher" > wrote in message
...
>
> "cybercat" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Woolstitcher" > wrote
>>>
>>> Try Soy Coffee Creamer .. it works much better in coffee than the soy
>>> milk does.
>>
>> Well that makes sense! lol I didn't see that, but then I was not looking
>> for it.
>>
>>
>>> I use soy milk (or rice milk) for almost everything that I use milk for
>>> ...baked goods, drinking, making mac n cheese (I use soy cheese as
>>> well).
>>>
>> What do you think about the concerns some raise about the plant estrogens
>> in soy products? If anything?
>>
>
> I think there are a lot of people w/ nothing better to do than spout stats
> that have no meaning. To release enough plant estrogens to have a neg.
> affect on a human you would have to eat more than 15 - 30 pounds of soy a
> day. While I like soy ... I don't like it THAT much lol
> I think it's all about balance.
>

This is just the kind of opinion I was looking for!

On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 22:56:42 +0100, Janet Baraclough
> wrote:

>
>
>> "cybercat" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Thought I would try this as a coffee creamer, and, well, it takes so much
>> > to lighten the coffee, it winds up cold.
>> >
>> > Those of you who use it, what do you use it for?
>
> Making porridge (half and half with water). I always keep soya milk in
>the house for lactovegetarians/vegans, had some left over and used it to
>make our porridge. It was so good I've used it ever since in preference
>to cows milk.
>
> I've also discovered soya yoghurt (plain) and prefer that to cowsmilk
>yoghurt. I use it for making smoothies and as a dessert topping for
>fruit etc. Both the yoghurt and milk have a slightly nutty flavour I
>love.
>
>> > And is anyone concerned about the plant estrogens in soy?
>
> No concerns at all, for myself. They are supposed to be a positive
>benefit to healthy pre and postmenopausal women. (Women who have an
>estrogen-receptive cancer should seek medical advice).
>
> Janet

i think the concern is that it would turn males into girly-men.

your pal,
blake

"blake murphy" > wrote in message
news
> On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 22:56:42 +0100, Janet Baraclough
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>> "cybercat" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>> > Thought I would try this as a coffee creamer, and, well, it takes so
>>> > much
>>> > to lighten the coffee, it winds up cold.
>>> >
>>> > Those of you who use it, what do you use it for?
>>
>> Making porridge (half and half with water). I always keep soya milk in
>>the house for lactovegetarians/vegans, had some left over and used it to
>>make our porridge. It was so good I've used it ever since in preference
>>to cows milk.
>>
>> I've also discovered soya yoghurt (plain) and prefer that to cowsmilk
>>yoghurt. I use it for making smoothies and as a dessert topping for
>>fruit etc. Both the yoghurt and milk have a slightly nutty flavour I
>>love.
>>
>>> > And is anyone concerned about the plant estrogens in soy?
>>
>> No concerns at all, for myself. They are supposed to be a positive
>>benefit to healthy pre and postmenopausal women. (Women who have an
>>estrogen-receptive cancer should seek medical advice).
>>
>> Janet
>
> i think the concern is that it would turn males into girly-men.
>

For men, yes. Man boobies! For women, well, we have enough estrogen as a
rule, and besides, it has been known to cause cancer to grow. Fo real.

On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 21:20:25 +0100, Janet Baraclough
> wrote:

>The message >
>from blake murphy > contains these words:
>
>
>> i think the concern is that it would turn males into girly-men.
>
> I've heard it's safe for men who don't eat quiche.
>
> Janet

so i guess quiche with soy-based cheese is definitely out, then.

your pal,
blake

On Jun 18, 3:08 pm, "cybercat" > wrote:
> Thought I would try this as a coffee creamer, and, well, it takes so much
> to lighten the coffee, it winds up cold.
>
> Those of you who use it, what do you use it for?
>
> And is anyone concerned about the plant estrogens in soy?

I use it in my morning cereal instead of milk, and in baking when
dairy products are not advisable (too many kids these days are lactose
intolerant, etc.) I won't use the soy cheeses, but have used tvp,
altho someone sent me an article from "Mothering" magazine from 2004
that told of all the horrors that soy can cause if used in our diets.
It's full of toxins, don'tcha know.

Except in the last 4 years, I haven't seen much that backs up the
claims they made.

maxine in ri