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Nancy Young wrote:
> l, not -l wrote: > >> Yes, I agree. I have a rather small kitchen and painted the walls >> white a few years ago (formerly yellow) and with the white >> appliances, it is much brighter and seems roomier. > > Imagine how nice it's going to be when you ditch the yellow > countertops! (laugh) Are they formica? You can glue a > new layer on top of the old if they're in good shape. > > nancy I'm getting sick of HGTV and all the home magazines screaming "granite!" for counter tops every time they do a kitchen remodel. Formica is dated, of course. I'd like a glass tile or ceramic tile counter tops. Sure, both are breakable but I don't plan to take a sledgehammer to the counters and I'm not that dangerous in the kitchen ![]() counterops; she can set a hot pan right off the burner on it without bothering with hot pads. It's inexpensive, very attractive and touching up the grout if it gets grungy is a fairly easy cosmetic thing to do. Jill |
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Wayne Boatwright said...
> On Thu 19 Jun 2008 06:26:00p, sf told us... > >> On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 20:53:29 GMT, "Michael \"Dog3\"" >> > wrote: >> >>>"jmcquown" > >>>news ![]() >>>> Andy wrote: >>>>> Are your appliances color coordinated? >>>>> >>>>> I bought a cobalt blue kitchen aid mixer for it being my favorite >>>>> color, that didn't match the kitchen or other appliances. >>>>> >>>>> You r.f.c-ers got kitchen color coordinated "STUFF"??? >>>>> >>>>> Andy >>>> >>>> Not really. Everyone seems to adore [large] appliances in stainless. >>>> Not me; give me basic white. Your blue mixer will go with it just fine >>>> ![]() >>> >>>We went with basic white too Jill. I never saw much point in the > stainless >>>look. I'm sure it scratches easy but then I'm seldom right ![]() >>> >> Personally, I love ss. I was brought up with it and feel comfortable >> with it. As far as scratching, well it all depends on how you handle >> it. You can scratch porcelain too. In fact you can gouge it. When I >> bought this house, my lovely *pink* kitchen sink looked like a crane >> had dropped a wrecking ball on it. There was a huge chunk of >> porcelain missing - I never found out how it happened. > > I wouldn't want to take care of stainless steel, although I do like the > look. Personally, I prefer black appliances, which is what we have. > Although our black refrigerator has what "appears" to be stainless steel > doors, it's actually brushed aluminum under a layer of matte acrylic. It > neither spots, fingerprints, nor stains. Right now we have a stainless > steel sink which will be replaced with a black cast iron sink as soon as > finances permit. When we moved in to the house, when married, we installed a sub-zero fridge that we had the option to surface the doors. We matched the walnut cabinet molding design and it virtually disappeared. First time company would ask "where's your fridge?" Andy Summer begins at 7:59PM today |
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jmcquown said...
> Nancy Young wrote: >> l, not -l wrote: >> >>> Yes, I agree. I have a rather small kitchen and painted the walls >>> white a few years ago (formerly yellow) and with the white >>> appliances, it is much brighter and seems roomier. >> >> Imagine how nice it's going to be when you ditch the yellow >> countertops! (laugh) Are they formica? You can glue a >> new layer on top of the old if they're in good shape. >> >> nancy > > > I'm getting sick of HGTV and all the home magazines screaming "granite!" > for counter tops every time they do a kitchen remodel. Formica is > dated, of course. I'd like a glass tile or ceramic tile counter tops. > Sure, both are breakable but I don't plan to take a sledgehammer to the > counters and I'm not that dangerous in the kitchen ![]() > has ceramic tile counterops; she can set a hot pan right off the burner > on it without bothering with hot pads. It's inexpensive, very > attractive and touching up the grout if it gets grungy is a fairly easy > cosmetic thing to do. > > Jill Quartz is better than granite. It doesn't need treatment and isn't porous so it doesn't absorb odors. Andy Summer begins at 7:59PM today Aren't ya glad ya don't live in Tuna, PA? ![]() |
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Jill wrote:
> I'm getting sick of HGTV and all the home magazines screaming "granite!" > for counter tops every time they do a kitchen remodel. Formica is dated, > of course. I'd like a glass tile or ceramic tile counter tops. Sure, > both are breakable but I don't plan to take a sledgehammer to the counters > and I'm not that dangerous in the kitchen ![]() > tile counterops; she can set a hot pan right off the burner on it without > bothering with hot pads. It's inexpensive, very attractive and touching > up the grout if it gets grungy is a fairly easy cosmetic thing to do. I've got tile counters, and I hate them. I can't knead bread dough or roll out pie dough on them. I'd much rather have something like a phenolic resin counter. Or Corian. Bob |
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"sf" <.> ha scritto nel messaggio
news ![]() > On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 01:49:34 > These days, I wouldn't bet serious money about if an appliance or sink > was ss or brushed aluminum... I have to look at the tag to know. > Let's just say I love the stainless steel "look". > Silly! How will your magnets stick if it isn't steel? My magnets given by DD are various parts of Michelangelo's David, and they STICK to my SS fridge which is not hard to care for at all. |
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Bob Terwilliger wrote:
> Jill wrote: > >> I'm getting sick of HGTV and all the home magazines screaming >> "granite!" for counter tops every time they do a kitchen remodel. Formica >> is dated, of course. I'd like a glass tile or ceramic tile >> counter tops. Sure, both are breakable but I don't plan to take a >> sledgehammer to the counters and I'm not that dangerous in the >> kitchen ![]() >> a hot pan right off the burner on it without bothering with hot >> pads. It's inexpensive, very attractive and touching up the grout >> if it gets grungy is a fairly easy cosmetic thing to do. > > I've got tile counters, and I hate them. I can't knead bread dough or > roll out pie dough on them. I'd much rather have something like a > phenolic resin counter. Or Corian. > > Bob I used to clean a house for a guy who had tile counters. I hated cleaning that kitchen! The counters were white tiles with white grout. I'd bleach and bleach that grout and still couldn't get all the grease stains out. (I don't think it was sealed very well in the whole installation process.) The grout never looked clean enough to me and many of the tiles were cracked so the cracks turned brown. No amount of straight bleach took that out. Now that you mention it, Bob, it never occured to me about rolling anything out, like pizza dough, on tile. You made an excellent point. For me, if money wouldn't be a factor in my choice of counters, I'd opt for Corian or marble. I really wouldn't suggest tile. And to go one step further, I have a tile floor in my kitchen - another case of installation disaster. More grout that wasn't sealed properly and it's not grouted high enough, if that makes any sense. I have to sweep, sweep, sweep in order to try to get dropped food crumbs out from the grooves. It's better to vacuum the floor than to sweep it. And, if you drop anything glass, the item shatters and spreads shards of glass all over the place. If you accidentally drop a pan, the pan dents, let a fork fall, the tines bend...to be honest, I'd rather have the cheaper linoleum. What I *do* like about our tile flooring is that it's a marbeled beige color and it hides spots *really* well until I can do a thorough mopping. If a tile floor is installed well, people wouldn't have the issues I have, but mine was obviously not done by a professional. LOL. (The tiles aren't even lined up right.) :~) kili |
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jmcquown wrote:
> Nancy Young wrote: >> Imagine how nice it's going to be when you ditch the yellow >> countertops! (laugh) Are they formica? You can glue a >> new layer on top of the old if they're in good shape. > I'm getting sick of HGTV and all the home magazines screaming > "granite!" for counter tops every time they do a kitchen remodel. They don't scream it, they put in what sells houses. I adore granite and I'm sorry I didn't think it was an option when I remodeled my kitchen. > Formica is dated, of course. I'd like a glass tile or ceramic tile > counter tops. I don't like that look, though it was big in the 80s. nancy |
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"jmcquown" wrote:
> Nancy Young wrote: > > l, not -l wrote: > > >> Yes, I agree. �I have a rather small kitchen and painted the walls > >> white a few years ago (formerly yellow) and with the white > >> appliances, it is much brighter and seems roomier. > > > Imagine how nice it's going to be when you ditch the yellow > > countertops! �(laugh) �Are they formica? �You can glue a > > new layer on top of the old if they're in good shape. > > > nancy > > I'm getting sick of HGTV and all the home magazines screaming "granite!" for > counter tops every time they do a kitchen remodel. � > Formica is dated, of course. There's nothing dated about Formica, it's you who is dated... you haven't been to: http://formica.com/publish/site/na/us/en/index.html --- |
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Sheldon > wrote in
: > "jmcquown" wrote: >> Nancy Young wrote: >> > l, not -l wrote: >> >> >> Yes, I agree. �I have a rather small kitchen and painted the w > alls >> >> white a few years ago (formerly yellow) and with the white >> >> appliances, it is much brighter and seems roomier. >> >> > Imagine how nice it's going to be when you ditch the yellow >> > countertops! �(laugh) �Are they formica? �You c > an glue a >> > new layer on top of the old if they're in good shape. >> >> > nancy >> >> I'm getting sick of HGTV and all the home magazines screaming >> "granite!" > for >> counter tops every time they do a kitchen remodel. � >> Formica is dated, of course. > > There's nothing dated about Formica, it's you who is dated... you > haven't been to: http://formica.com/publish/site/na/us/en/index.html > > > --- > > > > > There's also acid stained concrete. With a mirror finish it looks nice and is reasonably priced. -- The house of the burning beet-Alan |
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Sheldon > wrote in
: > "jmcquown" wrote: >> Nancy Young wrote: >> > l, not -l wrote: >> >> >> Yes, I agree. �I have a rather small kitchen and painted the w > alls >> >> white a few years ago (formerly yellow) and with the white >> >> appliances, it is much brighter and seems roomier. >> >> > Imagine how nice it's going to be when you ditch the yellow >> > countertops! �(laugh) �Are they formica? �You c > an glue a >> > new layer on top of the old if they're in good shape. >> >> > nancy >> >> I'm getting sick of HGTV and all the home magazines screaming >> "granite!" > for >> counter tops every time they do a kitchen remodel. � >> Formica is dated, of course. > > There's nothing dated about Formica, it's you who is dated... you > haven't been to: http://formica.com/publish/site/na/us/en/index.html > > > --- > > > > > I forgot this http://www.idealsurface.com/gallery.html -- The house of the burning beet-Alan |
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hahabogus wrote:
> There's also acid stained concrete. With a mirror finish it looks nice > and is reasonably priced. I've seen some absolutely gorgeous concrete countertops. I wonder if there's a problem with cracking, as with sidewalks. nancy |
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Michael "Dog3" said...
> Andy <q> : in rec.food.cooking > >> >> Quartz is better than granite. It doesn't need treatment and isn't >> porous so it doesn't absorb odors. > > Quartz was our second choice. We went with granite. Depending upon the > grade, the quartz is just as expensive as granite is. We may reface the > firplaces with quartz when we get to that point. > > Michael Michael, No question the price is similar! It's THE better surface, imho. Best, Andy |
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Janet Baraclough said...
> In the 70's it was hard to get orange stuff any more but blue was > easy. Kept going on the blue . Course we've broken most of the various > blue china sets now but I've still got one piece from nearly all of > them. Janet, So obviously, blue got the most use! Good choice! ![]() Best, Andy |
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On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 13:02:26 GMT, "Michael \"Dog3\""
> wrote: >I also have friends with stainless. Their kids have beat >the stuff to hell and back. It looks pretty nasty. I think you stated the reason why it looks bad very clearly. Anything will look awful if you don't take care of it. I will also extrapolate that their cars look like garbage dumps and they let their kids & animals jump on the furniture too. -- I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond. Mae West |
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On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 05:04:24 -0400, "jmcquown" >
wrote: >I'm getting sick of HGTV and all the home magazines screaming "granite!" for >counter tops every time they do a kitchen remodel. Formica is dated, of >course. I'd like a glass tile or ceramic tile counter tops. Sure, both are >breakable but I don't plan to take a sledgehammer to the counters and I'm >not that dangerous in the kitchen ![]() >counterops; she can set a hot pan right off the burner on it without >bothering with hot pads. It's inexpensive, very attractive and touching up >the grout if it gets grungy is a fairly easy cosmetic thing to do. Never liked ceramic tile, never will and have lived with them for 30+ years. UGH. I'm looking forward to granite counters with a pretty glass tile backslash. -- I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond. Mae West |
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On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 05:25:04 -0500, Andy <q> wrote:
>Quartz is better than granite. It doesn't need treatment and isn't porous >so it doesn't absorb odors. It's more expensive too. I'm getting the cheap stuff. It certainly will last my lifetime, someone else can change them out for whatever is popular at that point. -- I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond. Mae West |
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On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 07:04:25 -0400, "kilikini"
> wrote: >I'd opt for Corian or marble. Marble (too soft) is for bathrooms and pastry inserts... but you won't need it if you stay with granite. -- I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond. Mae West |
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On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 15:40:46 GMT, "Michael \"Dog3\""
> wrote: >sf <.> : in >rec.food.cooking > >> On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 13:02:26 GMT, "Michael \"Dog3\"" >> > wrote: >> >>>I also have friends with stainless. Their kids have beat >>>the stuff to hell and back. It looks pretty nasty. >> >> I think you stated the reason why it looks bad very clearly. >> Anything will look awful if you don't take care of it. I will also >> extrapolate that their cars look like garbage dumps and they let their >> kids & animals jump on the furniture too. > >Yes, and the little beasts are not allowed in my home. The cars are >pristine as well as their wardrobes <shrug>. > aha... two faced - public pristine and private slob personas. -- I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond. Mae West |
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On Thu 19 Jun 2008 08:53:08a, Andy told us...
> Are your appliances color coordinated? > > I bought a cobalt blue kitchen aid mixer for it being my favorite color, > that didn't match the kitchen or other appliances. > > You r.f.c-ers got kitchen color coordinated "STUFF"??? > > Andy > Are you kidding? I have black major appliances, a white KA mixer, a black coffee maker, blue Le Creuset cookware, and 13 colors of Fiesta Ware, including pitchers and such that are not inside cabinets. IMHO, a kichen that contains nothing but one color of everything is sterile and uninviting to cook in. -- Wayne Boatwright ------------------------------------------- Friday, 06(VI)/20(XX)/08(MMVIII) ------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------- I'd love to, but my crayons all melted together. ------------------------------------------- |
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On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 12:57:10 GMT, "Michael \"Dog3\""
> wrote: >Have you seen the new stuff out? Formica has some really excellent stuff >out. We looked at it but it did not have the beauty of the granite. No kidding! If I couldn't buy granite so doggone inexpensively, Formica would be the way to go. http://www.formica.com/publish/site/...inate/new.html >We also considered quartz which would have been our next choice. I love quartz, but the last time I priced it... it was way more expensive than granite (and that was before you could find real deals on granite). -- I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond. Mae West |
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On Fri 20 Jun 2008 02:04:24a, jmcquown told us...
> Nancy Young wrote: >> l, not -l wrote: >> >>> Yes, I agree. I have a rather small kitchen and painted the walls >>> white a few years ago (formerly yellow) and with the white >>> appliances, it is much brighter and seems roomier. >> >> Imagine how nice it's going to be when you ditch the yellow >> countertops! (laugh) Are they formica? You can glue a >> new layer on top of the old if they're in good shape. >> >> nancy > > > I'm getting sick of HGTV and all the home magazines screaming "granite!" > for counter tops every time they do a kitchen remodel. Formica is > dated, of course. I'd like a glass tile or ceramic tile counter tops. > Sure, both are breakable but I don't plan to take a sledgehammer to the > counters and I'm not that dangerous in the kitchen ![]() > has ceramic tile counterops; she can set a hot pan right off the burner > on it without bothering with hot pads. It's inexpensive, very > attractive and touching up the grout if it gets grungy is a fairly easy > cosmetic thing to do. > > Jill > > Choosing a dark grout for both floor and countertop tiles is a great solution to grunge. If you already have any tile with light grout, it can be stained to any other color you wish, even black. -- Wayne Boatwright ------------------------------------------- Friday, 06(VI)/20(XX)/08(MMVIII) ------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------- In-con-CEIvable! ------------------------------------------- |
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Wayne Boatwright said...
> On Thu 19 Jun 2008 08:53:08a, Andy told us... > >> Are your appliances color coordinated? >> >> I bought a cobalt blue kitchen aid mixer for it being my favorite >> color, that didn't match the kitchen or other appliances. >> >> You r.f.c-ers got kitchen color coordinated "STUFF"??? >> >> Andy >> > > Are you kidding? I have black major appliances, a white KA mixer, a > black coffee maker, blue Le Creuset cookware, and 13 colors of Fiesta > Ware, including pitchers and such that are not inside cabinets. > > IMHO, a kichen that contains nothing but one color of everything is > sterile and uninviting to cook in. Wayne, Don't shoot! Just was wondering. Now if ya wanna go on and talk recipes, well cancel color and insert flavor! What's for lunch?!? ![]() Best, Andy |
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On Fri 20 Jun 2008 04:04:25a, kilikini told us...
> Bob Terwilliger wrote: >> Jill wrote: >> >>> I'm getting sick of HGTV and all the home magazines screaming >>> "granite!" for counter tops every time they do a kitchen remodel. >>> Formica is dated, of course. I'd like a glass tile or ceramic tile >>> counter tops. Sure, both are breakable but I don't plan to take a >>> sledgehammer to the counters and I'm not that dangerous in the >>> kitchen ![]() >>> a hot pan right off the burner on it without bothering with hot >>> pads. It's inexpensive, very attractive and touching up the grout if >>> it gets grungy is a fairly easy cosmetic thing to do. >> >> I've got tile counters, and I hate them. I can't knead bread dough or >> roll out pie dough on them. I'd much rather have something like a >> phenolic resin counter. Or Corian. >> >> Bob > > I used to clean a house for a guy who had tile counters. I hated > cleaning that kitchen! The counters were white tiles with white grout. > I'd bleach and bleach that grout and still couldn't get all the grease > stains out. (I don't think it was sealed very well in the whole > installation process.) The grout never looked clean enough to me and > many of the tiles were cracked so the cracks turned brown. No amount of > straight bleach took that out. > > Now that you mention it, Bob, it never occured to me about rolling > anything out, like pizza dough, on tile. You made an excellent point. > For me, if money wouldn't be a factor in my choice of counters, I'd opt > for Corian or marble. I really wouldn't suggest tile. And to go one > step further, I have a tile floor in my kitchen - another case of > installation disaster. More grout that wasn't sealed properly and it's > not grouted high enough, if that makes any sense. I have to sweep, > sweep, sweep in order to try to get dropped food crumbs out from the > grooves. It's better to vacuum the floor than to sweep it. And, if you > drop anything glass, the item shatters and spreads shards of glass all > over the place. If you accidentally drop a pan, the pan dents, let a > fork fall, the tines bend...to be honest, I'd rather have the cheaper > linoleum. What I *do* like about our tile flooring is that it's a > marbeled beige color and it hides spots *really* well until I can do a > thorough mopping. If a tile floor is installed well, people wouldn't > have the issues I have, but mine was obviously not done by a > professional. LOL. (The tiles aren't even lined up right.) :~) > > kili Marble is too "soft" to have high resistance to damage. It's also quite porous compared to almost any other natural stone, even when sealed. Many tiled counters are made up of 4x4" ceramic tiles, which can certainly create a cleaning nightmare, and is not a good surface for rolling out anything. Plus, many of those 4x4" tiles have a slightly contoured edge which makes it even worse. Having said that, there are larger tiles of natural materials like granite, quartz, soapstone, or other materials, that are perfectly flat edge to edge and can be set with the barest minimum of group lines. IMO, these are far more serviceable and they are far cheaper than a large slab of any of those materials. Again, I would suggest a dark group to avoid obvious staining. If one is an ardent baker where kneading and rolling are important, a separate section of counter could be outfitted with a different material, even butcher block, so that the other surfaces don't pose a problem. Modern laminates are not necessarily a poor choice. They have higher heat resistance than they used to, are easily cleaned, are more stain resistant, require no sealing, and are far more economical should replacement be necessary. Many of the patterns available now are quite attractive. Solid surface materials like Corian also have many good attributes and are available in many attractive patterns. They are far more forgiving and create less breakage if something is dropped on them than any stone surface. They can easily sanded and rubbed with steel wool should scratches or dings appear. There are also integrated sinks of the same material which are easily maintained. Making a decision on a countertop material can be daunting with the variety available. Far too many people are "caught up" in the marketed popularity of granite and other high end products. I wouldn't recommend anyone rushing out to buy whatever is the "most desirable" material of the moment. Take the time to consider your needs and expectations first. -- Wayne Boatwright ------------------------------------------- Friday, 06(VI)/20(XX)/08(MMVIII) ------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------- Condense soup, not books! ------------------------------------------- |
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On Fri 20 Jun 2008 09:10:11a, Andy told us...
> Wayne Boatwright said... > >> On Thu 19 Jun 2008 08:53:08a, Andy told us... >> >>> Are your appliances color coordinated? >>> >>> I bought a cobalt blue kitchen aid mixer for it being my favorite >>> color, that didn't match the kitchen or other appliances. >>> >>> You r.f.c-ers got kitchen color coordinated "STUFF"??? >>> >>> Andy >>> >> >> Are you kidding? I have black major appliances, a white KA mixer, a >> black coffee maker, blue Le Creuset cookware, and 13 colors of Fiesta >> Ware, including pitchers and such that are not inside cabinets. >> >> IMHO, a kichen that contains nothing but one color of everything is >> sterile and uninviting to cook in. > > > Wayne, > > Don't shoot! > > Just was wondering. > > Now if ya wanna go on and talk recipes, well cancel color and insert > flavor! > > What's for lunch?!? ![]() > > Best, > > Andy > Yep, IMO, color takes 2nd place to flavor when it comes to food. -- Wayne Boatwright ------------------------------------------- Friday, 06(VI)/20(XX)/08(MMVIII) ------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------- Wakko of Borg: Heeeeeeellllllllo Collective! ------------------------------------------- |
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Wayne Boatwright said...
> On Fri 20 Jun 2008 09:10:11a, Andy told us... > >> Wayne Boatwright said... >> >>> On Thu 19 Jun 2008 08:53:08a, Andy told us... >>> >>>> Are your appliances color coordinated? >>>> >>>> I bought a cobalt blue kitchen aid mixer for it being my favorite >>>> color, that didn't match the kitchen or other appliances. >>>> >>>> You r.f.c-ers got kitchen color coordinated "STUFF"??? >>>> >>>> Andy >>>> >>> >>> Are you kidding? I have black major appliances, a white KA mixer, a >>> black coffee maker, blue Le Creuset cookware, and 13 colors of Fiesta >>> Ware, including pitchers and such that are not inside cabinets. >>> >>> IMHO, a kichen that contains nothing but one color of everything is >>> sterile and uninviting to cook in. >> >> >> Wayne, >> >> Don't shoot! >> >> Just was wondering. >> >> Now if ya wanna go on and talk recipes, well cancel color and insert >> flavor! >> >> What's for lunch?!? ![]() >> >> Best, >> >> Andy >> > > Yep, IMO, color takes 2nd place to flavor when it comes to food. Wayne, So, again I ask... WHAT'S FOR LUNCH?!? What's a hungry BUM!!! gotta do to sit down to an Arizona lunch!?? Got lettuce! Andy Hungry BUM!!! |
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On Fri 20 Jun 2008 09:49:05a, Andy told us...
> Wayne Boatwright said... > >> On Fri 20 Jun 2008 09:10:11a, Andy told us... >> >>> Wayne Boatwright said... >>> >>>> On Thu 19 Jun 2008 08:53:08a, Andy told us... >>>> >>>>> Are your appliances color coordinated? >>>>> >>>>> I bought a cobalt blue kitchen aid mixer for it being my favorite >>>>> color, that didn't match the kitchen or other appliances. >>>>> >>>>> You r.f.c-ers got kitchen color coordinated "STUFF"??? >>>>> >>>>> Andy >>>>> >>>> >>>> Are you kidding? I have black major appliances, a white KA mixer, a >>>> black coffee maker, blue Le Creuset cookware, and 13 colors of Fiesta >>>> Ware, including pitchers and such that are not inside cabinets. >>>> >>>> IMHO, a kichen that contains nothing but one color of everything is >>>> sterile and uninviting to cook in. >>> >>> >>> Wayne, >>> >>> Don't shoot! >>> >>> Just was wondering. >>> >>> Now if ya wanna go on and talk recipes, well cancel color and insert >>> flavor! >>> >>> What's for lunch?!? ![]() >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Andy >>> >> >> Yep, IMO, color takes 2nd place to flavor when it comes to food. > > > Wayne, > > So, again I ask... WHAT'S FOR LUNCH?!? > > What's a hungry BUM!!! gotta do to sit down to an Arizona lunch!?? > > Got lettuce! > > Andy > Hungry BUM!!! > I probably won't be eating lunch today, Andy. I was way bad yesterday because of a retirement party at work. It was catered by one of the best Mexican restaurants in Phoenix, and I wasn't about to pass it up. LOTS of food! Dinner will be spare, too. Grilled chicken breast and veggies. :-( -- Wayne Boatwright ------------------------------------------- Friday, 06(VI)/20(XX)/08(MMVIII) ------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------- Stability brought about by force is not stability at all. ------------------------------------------- |
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On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 16:19:59 GMT, "Michael \"Dog3\""
> wrote: >sf <.> : in >rec.food.cooking > >> On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 12:57:10 GMT, "Michael \"Dog3\"" >> > wrote: >> >>>Have you seen the new stuff out? Formica has some really excellent >>>stuff out. We looked at it but it did not have the beauty of the >>>granite. >> >> No kidding! If I couldn't buy granite so doggone inexpensively, >> Formica would be the way to go. >> http://www.formica.com/publish/site/...inate/new.html > >The American Rose and Brazilian Brown are pretty cool. I've seen them >both in a couple of the stores. > >> >>>We also considered quartz which would have been our next choice. >> >> I love quartz, but the last time I priced it... it was way more >> expensive than granite (and that was before you could find real deals >> on granite). > >The people at Stone Fabricators INC. which is where we bought the granite >there are several grades of granite. The blue pearl we had installed is >a grade 3. It is called Blue Pearl. Grades 1&2 granite is what most >contractors use. The guy at SFI was very knowledgeable. I saw one slab >that I fell in love with but it was a grade 8. Cost wise it would have >sent us into the poor house. I have a feeling grading has more to do with scarceness rather than actual quality. http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...=1006022508255 http://www.americanmarbleandgranitei...ite_Colors.htm I'm drawn to Dakota Mahogany... the stuff they put on the outside of office buildings. http://www.mkgranite.co.uk/thumbs/dakota%20mahogony.jpg I'm not into wavy grains (which I will grant you look good on an uncut slab), I just want an even, sprinkled grain - like your blue pearl or black galaxy. My counters are background, not the main attraction. If I was inclined to go with dark cabinets... I think kashmir white would go well with them. http://www.natural-stones-suppliers....ages/10041.jpg > >Quartz is about the same from my understanding. Quartz and granite both >have their pros and cons. > Granite is harder than marble and quartz is harder than granite. That's the extent of my knowledge! Now, polished or honed? Decisions, decisions.... -- I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond. Mae West |
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Michael "Dog3" said...
> Andy <q> : in rec.food.cooking > >> >> Now if ya wanna go on and talk recipes, well cancel color and insert >> flavor! >> >> What's for lunch?!? ![]() > > I'll answer that one. Thick sliced garlic bologna,a chunk of cheddar, > pickles and mustard all on thick sliced sourdough. Chips on the side and a > large glass of Diet Pepsi. > > Michael Michael, Sounds like a magic recipe. Gotta be in St. Louis, Missouri, or can anyone just drive-thru that dish, statewide? Best, Andy |
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Wayne Boatwright said...
> On Fri 20 Jun 2008 09:49:05a, Andy told us... > >> Wayne Boatwright said... >> >>> On Fri 20 Jun 2008 09:10:11a, Andy told us... >>> >>>> Wayne Boatwright said... >>>> >>>>> On Thu 19 Jun 2008 08:53:08a, Andy told us... >>>>> >>>>>> Are your appliances color coordinated? >>>>>> >>>>>> I bought a cobalt blue kitchen aid mixer for it being my favorite >>>>>> color, that didn't match the kitchen or other appliances. >>>>>> >>>>>> You r.f.c-ers got kitchen color coordinated "STUFF"??? >>>>>> >>>>>> Andy >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Are you kidding? I have black major appliances, a white KA mixer, a >>>>> black coffee maker, blue Le Creuset cookware, and 13 colors of Fiesta >>>>> Ware, including pitchers and such that are not inside cabinets. >>>>> >>>>> IMHO, a kichen that contains nothing but one color of everything is >>>>> sterile and uninviting to cook in. >>>> >>>> >>>> Wayne, >>>> >>>> Don't shoot! >>>> >>>> Just was wondering. >>>> >>>> Now if ya wanna go on and talk recipes, well cancel color and insert >>>> flavor! >>>> >>>> What's for lunch?!? ![]() >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> Andy >>>> >>> >>> Yep, IMO, color takes 2nd place to flavor when it comes to food. >> >> >> Wayne, >> >> So, again I ask... WHAT'S FOR LUNCH?!? >> >> What's a hungry BUM!!! gotta do to sit down to an Arizona lunch!?? >> >> Got lettuce! >> >> Andy >> Hungry BUM!!! >> > > I probably won't be eating lunch today, Andy. I was way bad yesterday > because of a retirement party at work. It was catered by one of the best > Mexican restaurants in Phoenix, and I wasn't about to pass it up. LOTS of > food! > > Dinner will be spare, too. Grilled chicken breast and veggies. :-( Wayne, Congrats on your retirement!!! If I had a gold watch... ![]() Best, Andy |
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On Fri 20 Jun 2008 10:06:32a, Andy told us...
> Wayne Boatwright said... > >> On Fri 20 Jun 2008 09:49:05a, Andy told us... >> >>> Wayne Boatwright said... >>> >>>> On Fri 20 Jun 2008 09:10:11a, Andy told us... >>>> >>>>> Wayne Boatwright said... >>>>> >>>>>> On Thu 19 Jun 2008 08:53:08a, Andy told us... >>>>>> >>>>>>> Are your appliances color coordinated? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I bought a cobalt blue kitchen aid mixer for it being my favorite >>>>>>> color, that didn't match the kitchen or other appliances. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You r.f.c-ers got kitchen color coordinated "STUFF"??? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Andy >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Are you kidding? I have black major appliances, a white KA mixer, a >>>>>> black coffee maker, blue Le Creuset cookware, and 13 colors of Fiesta >>>>>> Ware, including pitchers and such that are not inside cabinets. >>>>>> >>>>>> IMHO, a kichen that contains nothing but one color of everything is >>>>>> sterile and uninviting to cook in. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Wayne, >>>>> >>>>> Don't shoot! >>>>> >>>>> Just was wondering. >>>>> >>>>> Now if ya wanna go on and talk recipes, well cancel color and insert >>>>> flavor! >>>>> >>>>> What's for lunch?!? ![]() >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> >>>>> Andy >>>>> >>>> >>>> Yep, IMO, color takes 2nd place to flavor when it comes to food. >>> >>> >>> Wayne, >>> >>> So, again I ask... WHAT'S FOR LUNCH?!? >>> >>> What's a hungry BUM!!! gotta do to sit down to an Arizona lunch!?? >>> >>> Got lettuce! >>> >>> Andy >>> Hungry BUM!!! >>> >> >> I probably won't be eating lunch today, Andy. I was way bad yesterday >> because of a retirement party at work. It was catered by one of the best >> Mexican restaurants in Phoenix, and I wasn't about to pass it up. LOTS >> of food! >> >> Dinner will be spare, too. Grilled chicken breast and veggies. :-( > > > Wayne, > > Congrats on your retirement!!! If I had a gold watch... ![]() > > Best, > > Andy > It wasn't *my* retirement, damn it. I wish it was! -- Wayne Boatwright ------------------------------------------- Friday, 06(VI)/20(XX)/08(MMVIII) ------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------- Suffering from the inhumanity of regular employment. ------------------------------------------- |
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Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> Having said that, there > are larger tiles of natural materials like granite, quartz, > soapstone, or other materials, that are perfectly flat edge to edge > and can be set with the barest minimum of group lines. I am considering that look. My countertops are not easily replaced as I have an appliance garage set on the counter in one corner. > Modern laminates are not necessarily a poor choice. They have higher > heat resistance than they used to, are easily cleaned, are more stain > resistant, require no sealing, and are far more economical should > replacement be necessary. Many of the patterns available now are > quite attractive. Laminate accumulates tiny scratches that you wouldn't notice on a light color, but if you choose a darker color, it will show as a white fog. I'm careful with my dark formica for that reason. Say I'm opening a can, I put the can on a towel or something. Like that. > Solid surface materials like Corian also have many good attributes > and are available in many attractive patterns. I see they have more attractive choices, I saw one one show they call it having 'movement', I call it not being so lifeless and dull as the early stuff. > Making a decision on a countertop material can be daunting with the > variety available. Far too many people are "caught up" in the > marketed popularity of granite and other high end products. I joke that I was a rock in my former life. I love rocks. Before HGTV was a dream someone thought up, I loved granite counters. I just didn't know that they were in reach for regular people. My one regret with my kitchen. nancy |
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Wayne Boatwright said...
> On Fri 20 Jun 2008 10:06:32a, Andy told us... > >> Wayne Boatwright said... >> >>> On Fri 20 Jun 2008 09:49:05a, Andy told us... >>> >>>> Wayne Boatwright said... >>>> >>>>> On Fri 20 Jun 2008 09:10:11a, Andy told us... >>>>> >>>>>> Wayne Boatwright said... >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu 19 Jun 2008 08:53:08a, Andy told us... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Are your appliances color coordinated? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I bought a cobalt blue kitchen aid mixer for it being my favorite >>>>>>>> color, that didn't match the kitchen or other appliances. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You r.f.c-ers got kitchen color coordinated "STUFF"??? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Andy >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Are you kidding? I have black major appliances, a white KA mixer, a >>>>>>> black coffee maker, blue Le Creuset cookware, and 13 colors of > Fiesta >>>>>>> Ware, including pitchers and such that are not inside cabinets. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> IMHO, a kichen that contains nothing but one color of everything is >>>>>>> sterile and uninviting to cook in. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Wayne, >>>>>> >>>>>> Don't shoot! >>>>>> >>>>>> Just was wondering. >>>>>> >>>>>> Now if ya wanna go on and talk recipes, well cancel color and insert >>>>>> flavor! >>>>>> >>>>>> What's for lunch?!? ![]() >>>>>> >>>>>> Best, >>>>>> >>>>>> Andy >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Yep, IMO, color takes 2nd place to flavor when it comes to food. >>>> >>>> >>>> Wayne, >>>> >>>> So, again I ask... WHAT'S FOR LUNCH?!? >>>> >>>> What's a hungry BUM!!! gotta do to sit down to an Arizona lunch!?? >>>> >>>> Got lettuce! >>>> >>>> Andy >>>> Hungry BUM!!! >>>> >>> >>> I probably won't be eating lunch today, Andy. I was way bad yesterday >>> because of a retirement party at work. It was catered by one of the > best >>> Mexican restaurants in Phoenix, and I wasn't about to pass it up. LOTS >>> of food! >>> >>> Dinner will be spare, too. Grilled chicken breast and veggies. :-( >> >> >> Wayne, >> >> Congrats on your retirement!!! If I had a gold watch... ![]() >> >> Best, >> >> Andy >> > > It wasn't *my* retirement, damn it. I wish it was! Wayne, So, the band plays on?!? ![]() Best, Andy |
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Michael "Dog3" said...
> Andy <q> : in rec.food.cooking > >> >> Sounds like a magic recipe. Gotta be in St. Louis, Missouri, or can >> anyone just drive-thru that dish, statewide? > > C'mon over. But I warn you, you'll have to dodge the contractor crew. > > Michael <VBG>!!! Just wanna be back in Missouri! Thanks, Andy |
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On Jun 19, 10:53 am, Andy <q> wrote:
> Are your appliances color coordinated? > > I bought a cobalt blue kitchen aid mixer for it being my favorite color, that > didn't match the kitchen or other appliances. > > You r.f.c-ers got kitchen color coordinated "STUFF"??? > > Andy No, my stuff isn't, although the washrags, towels, curtains, hot pads, and placemats are color-coordinated with the wall and counter color. That's about as far as I go. My KA is that industrial pebbly gray. My kitchen is all tans and black. N. |
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On Fri 20 Jun 2008 10:27:17a, Nancy Young told us...
> Wayne Boatwright wrote: > >> Having said that, there >> are larger tiles of natural materials like granite, quartz, soapstone, >> or other materials, that are perfectly flat edge to edge and can be >> set with the barest minimum of group lines. > > I am considering that look. My countertops are not easily > replaced as I have an appliance garage set on the counter > in one corner. > > >> Modern laminates are not necessarily a poor choice. They have higher >> heat resistance than they used to, are easily cleaned, are more stain >> resistant, require no sealing, and are far more economical should >> replacement be necessary. Many of the patterns available now are >> quite attractive. > > Laminate accumulates tiny scratches that you wouldn't notice > on a light color, but if you choose a darker color, it will show > as a white fog. I'm careful with my dark formica for that reason. > Say I'm opening a can, I put the can on a towel or something. > Like that. There are liminates and there are solid-core liminates where the color goes all the way through. You would not see white showing through an abrasion or scratch on a dark laminate with the latter. >> Solid surface materials like Corian also have many good attributes and >> are available in many attractive patterns. > > I see they have more attractive choices, I saw one one show > they call it having 'movement', I call it not being so lifeless and > dull as the early stuff. The first Corian countertop I ever saw looked just like a slab of vanilla fudge. No character at all. Not so now, as you know. >> Making a decision on a countertop material can be daunting with the >> variety available. Far too many people are "caught up" in the >> marketed popularity of granite and other high end products. > > I joke that I was a rock in my former life. I love rocks. Before > HGTV was a dream someone thought up, I loved granite counters. > I just didn't know that they were in reach for regular people. My > one regret with my kitchen. Unfortunately, even low-end natural stone counters are too high-end for my budget. Luckily, I'm quite happy with what I have. -- Wayne Boatwright ------------------------------------------- Friday, 06(VI)/20(XX)/08(MMVIII) ------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------- I can't grow up -- I'm too old! ------------------------------------------- |
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On Fri 20 Jun 2008 10:29:57a, Andy told us...
> Wayne Boatwright said... > >> On Fri 20 Jun 2008 10:06:32a, Andy told us... >> >>> Wayne Boatwright said... >>> >>>> On Fri 20 Jun 2008 09:49:05a, Andy told us... >>>> >>>>> Wayne Boatwright said... >>>>> >>>>>> On Fri 20 Jun 2008 09:10:11a, Andy told us... >>>>>> >>>>>>> Wayne Boatwright said... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu 19 Jun 2008 08:53:08a, Andy told us... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Are your appliances color coordinated? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I bought a cobalt blue kitchen aid mixer for it being my favorite >>>>>>>>> color, that didn't match the kitchen or other appliances. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You r.f.c-ers got kitchen color coordinated "STUFF"??? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Andy >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Are you kidding? I have black major appliances, a white KA mixer, >>>>>>>> a black coffee maker, blue Le Creuset cookware, and 13 colors of >>>>>>>> Fiesta Ware, including pitchers and such that are not inside >>>>>>>> cabinets. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> IMHO, a kichen that contains nothing but one color of everything is >>>>>>>> sterile and uninviting to cook in. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Wayne, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Don't shoot! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just was wondering. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Now if ya wanna go on and talk recipes, well cancel color and insert >>>>>>> flavor! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What's for lunch?!? ![]() >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Andy >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Yep, IMO, color takes 2nd place to flavor when it comes to food. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Wayne, >>>>> >>>>> So, again I ask... WHAT'S FOR LUNCH?!? >>>>> >>>>> What's a hungry BUM!!! gotta do to sit down to an Arizona lunch!?? >>>>> >>>>> Got lettuce! >>>>> >>>>> Andy >>>>> Hungry BUM!!! >>>>> >>>> >>>> I probably won't be eating lunch today, Andy. I was way bad yesterday >>>> because of a retirement party at work. It was catered by one of the >>>> best Mexican restaurants in Phoenix, and I wasn't about to pass it up. >>>> LOTS of food! >>>> >>>> Dinner will be spare, too. Grilled chicken breast and veggies. :-( >>> >>> >>> Wayne, >>> >>> Congrats on your retirement!!! If I had a gold watch... ![]() >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Andy >>> >> >> It wasn't *my* retirement, damn it. I wish it was! > > > Wayne, > > So, the band plays on?!? ![]() > > Best, > > Andy > Yes, and it was more like a mariachi band. :-) -- Wayne Boatwright ------------------------------------------- Friday, 06(VI)/20(XX)/08(MMVIII) ------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------- The cat that ate the ball of yarn....had mittens! ------------------------------------------- |
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Wayne Boatwright said...
> On Fri 20 Jun 2008 10:29:57a, Andy told us... > >> Wayne Boatwright said... >> >>> On Fri 20 Jun 2008 10:06:32a, Andy told us... >>> >>>> Wayne Boatwright said... >>>> >>>>> On Fri 20 Jun 2008 09:49:05a, Andy told us... >>>>> >>>>>> Wayne Boatwright said... >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri 20 Jun 2008 09:10:11a, Andy told us... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Wayne Boatwright said... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu 19 Jun 2008 08:53:08a, Andy told us... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Are your appliances color coordinated? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I bought a cobalt blue kitchen aid mixer for it being my favorite >>>>>>>>>> color, that didn't match the kitchen or other appliances. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You r.f.c-ers got kitchen color coordinated "STUFF"??? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Andy >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Are you kidding? I have black major appliances, a white KA mixer, >>>>>>>>> a black coffee maker, blue Le Creuset cookware, and 13 colors of >>>>>>>>> Fiesta Ware, including pitchers and such that are not inside >>>>>>>>> cabinets. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> IMHO, a kichen that contains nothing but one color of everything > is >>>>>>>>> sterile and uninviting to cook in. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Wayne, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Don't shoot! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Just was wondering. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Now if ya wanna go on and talk recipes, well cancel color and > insert >>>>>>>> flavor! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What's for lunch?!? ![]() >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Andy >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yep, IMO, color takes 2nd place to flavor when it comes to food. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Wayne, >>>>>> >>>>>> So, again I ask... WHAT'S FOR LUNCH?!? >>>>>> >>>>>> What's a hungry BUM!!! gotta do to sit down to an Arizona lunch!?? >>>>>> >>>>>> Got lettuce! >>>>>> >>>>>> Andy >>>>>> Hungry BUM!!! >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I probably won't be eating lunch today, Andy. I was way bad yesterday >>>>> because of a retirement party at work. It was catered by one of the >>>>> best Mexican restaurants in Phoenix, and I wasn't about to pass it up. >>>>> LOTS of food! >>>>> >>>>> Dinner will be spare, too. Grilled chicken breast and veggies. :-( >>>> >>>> >>>> Wayne, >>>> >>>> Congrats on your retirement!!! If I had a gold watch... ![]() >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> Andy >>>> >>> >>> It wasn't *my* retirement, damn it. I wish it was! >> >> >> Wayne, >> >> So, the band plays on?!? ![]() >> >> Best, >> >> Andy >> > > Yes, and it was more like a mariachi band. :-) LOLOL! Sorry you make it sound that bad! Best, Andy ![]() |
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Nancy2 said...
> On Jun 19, 10:53 am, Andy <q> wrote: >> Are your appliances color coordinated? >> >> I bought a cobalt blue kitchen aid mixer for it being my favorite >> color, that didn't match the kitchen or other appliances. >> >> You r.f.c-ers got kitchen color coordinated "STUFF"??? >> >> Andy > > No, my stuff isn't, although the washrags, towels, curtains, hot pads, > and placemats are color-coordinated with the wall and counter color. > That's about as far as I go. My KA is that industrial pebbly gray. > My kitchen is all tans and black. > > N. Nancy2, Ain't there anything we could do about that??? ![]() Andy Stupid BUM!!! |
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On Fri 20 Jun 2008 10:49:20a, Michael "Dog3" told us...
> Wayne Boatwright > > 6.120: in > rec.food.cooking > >> >> Unfortunately, even low-end natural stone counters are too high-end >> for my budget. Luckily, I'm quite happy with what I have. > > Have you looked at Sile Stone? My youngest brother just put it in his > kitchen and he loves it. I don't think it is nearly expensive as some of > the other stone. > > Michael > > Yes, I like Sile Stone, and it looks very durable. However, stone just wasn't an option when we did this house. Since it's only a year and a half old, it's not likely we'll be making changes any too soon. I'm pretty happy with what we have. -- Wayne Boatwright ------------------------------------------- Friday, 06(VI)/20(XX)/08(MMVIII) ------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------- Work like you don't need money; love like you've never been hurt; dance like no one's watching. ------------------------------------------- |
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