It's Juneteenth. Everybody celebrate! Eat ribs!
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modom
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:56:10 -0500, modom (palindrome guy) wrote:

> It's Juneteenth. Everybody celebrate! Eat ribs!

Or shrimp!

--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

Egg tastes better when it's not on your face...

On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 21:07:10 +0200, ChattyCathy
> wrote:

>On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:56:10 -0500, modom (palindrome guy) wrote:
>
>> It's Juneteenth. Everybody celebrate! Eat ribs!
>
>Or shrimp!

Funny you should mention it. I had a shrimp rémoulade salad for
lunch.
--

modom
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

On Jun 19, 2:56�pm, "modom (palindrome guy)" > wrote:
> It's Juneteenth. �Everybody celebrate! �Eat ribs!
> --
>
> modom
> ** Posted fromhttp://www.teranews.com**

Juneteenth is simply another made up holiday that Blacks made up for
just themselves, just like Kwanzaa. You;d never hear the end of it if
someone tried to to institute a holiday just for Whites.

wrote:
> On Jun 19, 2:56�pm, "modom (palindrome guy)" > wrote:
>> It's Juneteenth. �Everybody celebrate! �Eat ribs!
>> --
>>
>> modom
>> ** Posted fromhttp://www.teranews.com**
>
> Juneteenth is simply another made up holiday that Blacks made up for
> just themselves, just like Kwanzaa. You;d never hear the end of it if
> someone tried to to institute a holiday just for Whites.
Actually it's a celebration of the date that the US Army landed in
Galveston and proclaimed the Emancipation Proclamation. It has also been
a big holiday in Texas since 1865 and is becoming one here in Texas.

On Jun 19, 8:51�pm, George Shirley > wrote:
> Actually it's a celebration of the date that the US Army landed in
> Galveston and proclaimed the Emancipation Proclamation. It has also been
> a big holiday in Texas since 1865 and is becoming one here in Texas.


Like I said, a holiday for Blacks only.

On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:44:37 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Jun 19, 2:56?pm, "modom (palindrome guy)" > wrote:
>> It's Juneteenth. ?Everybody celebrate! ?Eat ribs!
>
>Juneteenth is simply another made up holiday that Blacks made up for
>just themselves, just like Kwanzaa. You;d never hear the end of it if
>someone tried to to institute a holiday just for Whites.

It is not a "made up holiday" it is a celebration of freedom with a
rich historical foundation. See:
http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...,00.html?imw=Y

See also: http://www.juneteenth.com/history.htm

I for one have observed Juneteenth annually as a part of my American
heritage for decades. The white v black presumption is bogus and only
serves to perpetuate divisiveness among our people. It is time that
we emancipate ourselves of such limited thinking. Be free!

OBJuneteenth food: Pulled pork leftovers with marinated bean salad
and slaw for dinner tonight. Before that we had a delicious Italian
red wine with my homemade prosciutto. Juneteenth prosciutto for
everyone! Freedom tastes great!
--

modom
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

On Jun 19, 4:44*pm, " > wrote:
>
> Juneteenth is simply another made up holiday that Blacks made up for
> just themselves, just like Kwanzaa. *You;d never hear the end of it if
> someone tried to to institute a holiday just for Whites.

The holiday commemorates the end of slavery -- are you saying that's
something whites shouldn't celebrate? -aem

"modom (palindrome guy)" > wrote in
:

> On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:44:37 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
>>On Jun 19, 2:56?pm, "modom (palindrome guy)" > wrote:
>>> It's Juneteenth. ?Everybody celebrate! ?Eat ribs!
>>
>>Juneteenth is simply another made up holiday that Blacks made up for
>>just themselves, just like Kwanzaa. You;d never hear the end of it if
>>someone tried to to institute a holiday just for Whites.
>
> It is not a "made up holiday" it is a celebration of freedom with a
> rich historical foundation. See:
> http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...,00.html?imw=Y
>
> See also: http://www.juneteenth.com/history.htm
>
> I for one have observed Juneteenth annually as a part of my American
> heritage for decades. The white v black presumption is bogus and only
> serves to perpetuate divisiveness among our people. It is time that
> we emancipate ourselves of such limited thinking. Be free!
>
> OBJuneteenth food: Pulled pork leftovers with marinated bean salad
> and slaw for dinner tonight. Before that we had a delicious Italian
> red wine with my homemade prosciutto. Juneteenth prosciutto for
> everyone! Freedom tastes great!
> --
>
> modom
> ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
>

Mike...you never mentioned you was black...congratz.

--

The house of the burning beet-Alan

On Thu 19 Jun 2008 09:01:45p, modom (palindrome guy) told us...

> On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:44:37 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
>>On Jun 19, 2:56?pm, "modom (palindrome guy)" > wrote:
>>> It's Juneteenth. ?Everybody celebrate! ?Eat ribs!
>>
>>Juneteenth is simply another made up holiday that Blacks made up for
>>just themselves, just like Kwanzaa. You;d never hear the end of it if
>>someone tried to to institute a holiday just for Whites.
>
> It is not a "made up holiday" it is a celebration of freedom with a
> rich historical foundation. See:
> http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...,00.html?imw=Y
>
> See also: http://www.juneteenth.com/history.htm
>
> I for one have observed Juneteenth annually as a part of my American
> heritage for decades. The white v black presumption is bogus and only
> serves to perpetuate divisiveness among our people. It is time that
> we emancipate ourselves of such limited thinking. Be free!
>
> OBJuneteenth food: Pulled pork leftovers with marinated bean salad
> and slaw for dinner tonight. Before that we had a delicious Italian
> red wine with my homemade prosciutto. Juneteenth prosciutto for
> everyone! Freedom tastes great!
> --
>
> modom
> ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
>

It may have a history, but it's certainly one I've never heard of.

--
Wayne Boatwright
-------------------------------------------
Thursday, 06(VI)/19(XIX)/08(MMVIII)
-------------------------------------------
-------------------------------------------
'The sex was so good that even the
neighbors had a cigarette.'
-------------------------------------------

On Jun 20, 12:01�am, "modom (palindrome guy>
> I for one have observed Juneteenth annually as a part of my American
> heritage for decades. �The white v black presumption is bogus and only
> serves to perpetuate divisiveness among our people. �It is time that
> we emancipate ourselves of such limited thinking. �Be free!
>

As long as Blacks insist on having separate holidays for just
themselves and as long as there's groups like the NAACP, the ACLU, The
United Negro College Fund, etc. and as long as there's affirmative
action there's going to be divisiveness between Blacks and Whites.
It's the Blacks who are the cause of the divisiveness between Blacks
and Whites.

"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
6.120...
> On Thu 19 Jun 2008 09:01:45p, modom (palindrome guy) told us...
>
>> On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:44:37 -0700 (PDT), "
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>On Jun 19, 2:56?pm, "modom (palindrome guy)" > wrote:
>>>> It's Juneteenth. ?Everybody celebrate! ?Eat ribs!
>>>
>>>Juneteenth is simply another made up holiday that Blacks made up for
>>>just themselves, just like Kwanzaa. You;d never hear the end of it if
>>>someone tried to to institute a holiday just for Whites.
>>
>> It is not a "made up holiday" it is a celebration of freedom with a
>> rich historical foundation. See:
>> http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...,00.html?imw=Y
>>
>> See also: http://www.juneteenth.com/history.htm
>>
>> I for one have observed Juneteenth annually as a part of my American
>> heritage for decades. The white v black presumption is bogus and only
>> serves to perpetuate divisiveness among our people. It is time that
>> we emancipate ourselves of such limited thinking. Be free!
>>
>> OBJuneteenth food: Pulled pork leftovers with marinated bean salad
>> and slaw for dinner tonight. Before that we had a delicious Italian
>> red wine with my homemade prosciutto. Juneteenth prosciutto for
>> everyone! Freedom tastes great!
>> --
>>
>> modom
>> ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
>>
>
> It may have a history, but it's certainly one I've never heard of.
>

Oh now this is a big surprise.

cybercat replied to Wayne replying to modem:

>>> See also: http://www.juneteenth.com/history.htm
>>>
>>> I for one have observed Juneteenth annually as a part of my American
>>> heritage for decades. The white v black presumption is bogus and only
>>> serves to perpetuate divisiveness among our people. It is time that
>>> we emancipate ourselves of such limited thinking. Be free!
>>>
>>> OBJuneteenth food: Pulled pork leftovers with marinated bean salad
>>> and slaw for dinner tonight. Before that we had a delicious Italian
>>> red wine with my homemade prosciutto. Juneteenth prosciutto for
>>> everyone! Freedom tastes great!
>>>
>>
>> It may have a history, but it's certainly one I've never heard of.
>>
>
> Oh now this is a big surprise.


So, cybercat, what did *you* make to celebrate Juneteenth? I mean, Wayne can
be excused because he'd never heard of it, but your tone indicates that you
were MORE than familiar with the occasion. So what did you do to celebrate?

I'm working tonight, but Lin and I had a big ol' barbecue dinner last night,
complete with corn on the cob, beef ribs, pork ribs, pulled pork, barbecued
chicken, a HUGE grilled artichoke, mixed vegetables (lima beans, tomatoes,
onions, and zucchini), macaroni & cheese, and watermelon.

<rant> Why do all the watermelons these days have next to no rind? When I
was a kid, watermelons would have at least an inch of white rind which could
be made into pickles. Nowadays whenever I get a watermelon there's less than
a quarter-inch of white rind between the pink flesh and the hard outer
rind.</rant>

Bob

"Bob Terwilliger" > wrote >
> So, cybercat, what did *you* make to celebrate Juneteenth? I mean, Wayne
> can be excused because he'd never heard of it, but your tone indicates
> that you were MORE than familiar with the occasion. So what did you do to
> celebrate?

I celebrated by just being who I am.

Did I SAY I celebrated the anniversary of Emancipation?

No, I didn't.

I said that it was no surprise that Wayne Mushmouth Fencerider
Boatright had no idea of the history of this celebration.

cybercat wrote:

>> So, cybercat, what did *you* make to celebrate Juneteenth? I mean, Wayne
>> can be excused because he'd never heard of it, but your tone indicates
>> that you were MORE than familiar with the occasion. So what did you do to
>> celebrate?
>
> I celebrated by just being who I am.


Oh, so your superior, sneering tone was backed up by no REAL recognition of
the occasion. "Oh now this is a big surprise."

BTW, Juneteenth is most emphatically NOT the anniversary of Emancipation,
unless you're in Texas. The anniversary of Emancipation would be the date
when Abraham Lincoln signed the Emancipation Proclamation: September 22nd. I
note further that slavery continued to exist after the Emancipation
Proclamation in several states; slavery was not completely abolished until
December 18th, 1865, when the 13th Amendment was finally declared to have
been ratified. (The ratification itself was complete on December 6th of that
year, but we don't want to have a big barbecue THEN because December 6th is
so close to the anniversary of the attack on Pearl Harbor...)

Bob

"Bob Terwilliger" > wrote in message
...
> cybercat wrote:
>
>>> So, cybercat, what did *you* make to celebrate Juneteenth? I mean, Wayne
>>> can be excused because he'd never heard of it, but your tone indicates
>>> that you were MORE than familiar with the occasion. So what did you do
>>> to
>>> celebrate?
>>
>> I celebrated by just being who I am.
>
>
> Oh, so your superior, sneering tone was backed up by no REAL recognition
> of
> the occasion. "Oh now this is a big surprise."

*Sigh* Idiots are so tiresome. You asked what I did to "celebrate" what
has come to be known as "Juneteenth." Celebrating does not equal
recognizing.


>
> BTW, Juneteenth is most emphatically NOT the anniversary of Emancipation,
> unless you're in Texas. The anniversary of Emancipation would be the date
> when Abraham Lincoln signed the Emancipation Proclamation: September 22nd.
> I
> note further that slavery continued to exist after the Emancipation
> Proclamation in several states; slavery was not completely abolished until
> December 18th, 1865, when the 13th Amendment was finally declared to have
> been ratified. (The ratification itself was complete on December 6th of
> that
> year, but we don't want to have a big barbecue THEN because December 6th
> is
> so close to the anniversary of the attack on Pearl Harbor...)
>

You're an idiot. A major, arrogant, aggressively stupid person. The day
Lincoln made his
speech is not recognized as Emancipation Day among African Americans now,
nor
was it then. This is because this proclamation did not free any slaves.
(Just look it up,
you undereducated, overweening asshole.)

The slaves were effectively freed on June 19, 1865, when Union soldiers
sailed into Galveston, Texas
and announced the end of the Civil War, and read aloud a general order
freeing tpver a quarter-million
slaves residing in the state.

Juneteenth is an African American celebration of June 19, 1865, regardless
of whether they lived in
Texas. Texas just happens to be where the order was read first.

Ugh.

"Bob Terwilliger" > wrote in message
...
> cybercat wrote:
>
>>> So, cybercat, what did *you* make to celebrate Juneteenth? I mean, Wayne
>>> can be excused because he'd never heard of it, but your tone indicates
>>> that you were MORE than familiar with the occasion. So what did you do
>>> to
>>> celebrate?
>>
>> I celebrated by just being who I am.
>
>
> Oh, so your superior, sneering tone was backed up by no REAL recognition
> of
> the occasion. "Oh now this is a big surprise."
>
> BTW, Juneteenth is most emphatically NOT the anniversary of Emancipation,
> unless you're in Texas. The anniversary of Emancipation would be the date
> when Abraham Lincoln signed the Emancipation Proclamation: September 22nd.
> I
> note further that slavery continued to exist after the Emancipation
> Proclamation in several states; slavery was not completely abolished until
> December 18th, 1865, when the 13th Amendment was finally declared to have
> been ratified. (The ratification itself was complete on December 6th of
> that
> year, but we don't want to have a big barbecue THEN because December 6th
> is
> so close to the anniversary of the attack on Pearl Harbor...)
>

Did I mention the fact that you're an undereducated ass? The dead giveaway
is
your presumptuousness.

It's actually really funny.

Yes, that's a SUPERIOR, SNEERING TONE.

*snicker*

Bob Terwilliger wrote:

> cybercat wrote:
>
>>> So, cybercat, what did *you* make to celebrate Juneteenth? I mean, Wayne
>>> can be excused because he'd never heard of it, but your tone indicates
>>> that you were MORE than familiar with the occasion. So what did you do to
>>> celebrate?
>>
>> I celebrated by just being who I am.
>
>
> Oh, so your superior, sneering tone was backed up by no REAL recognition of
> the occasion. "Oh now this is a big surprise."
>
> BTW, Juneteenth is most emphatically NOT the anniversary of Emancipation,
> unless you're in Texas. The anniversary of Emancipation would be the date
> when Abraham Lincoln signed the Emancipation Proclamation: September 22nd. I
> note further that slavery continued to exist after the Emancipation
> Proclamation in several states;

Well, sure -- the EP only addressed slavery in states that were in
cessession from the Union. It didn't cover slaves in non-Confederate
states.

> slavery was not completely abolished until December 18th, 1865, when
> the 13th Amendment was finally declared to have been ratified. (The
> ratification itself was complete on December 6th of that year, but we
> don't want to have a big barbecue THEN because December 6th is so close
> to the anniversary of the attack on Pearl Harbor...)


--
Blinky
Is your ISP dropping Usenet?
Need a new feed?
http://blinkynet.net/comp/newfeed.html

> ha scritto nel messaggio news:b5c2108f-91b9-
Juneteenth is simply another made up holiday that Blacks made up for
just themselves, just like Kwanzaa. You;d never hear the end of it if
someone tried to to institute a holiday just for Whites.

Maybe the emancipation of slaves is valued only by black people where you
come from, but in my world everyone is happy there are no more legal slaves.
Would you have the US be the only country that doesn't use metric AND the
only slaveholding country?

> ha scritto nel messaggioOn Jun 20, 12:01?am, "modom
(palindrome guy>
> I for one have observed Juneteenth annually as a part of my American
> heritage for decades. ?The white v black presumption is bogus and only
> serves to perpetuate divisiveness among our people. >

As long as Blacks insist on having separate holidays for just
themselves and as long as there's groups like the NAACP, the ACLU, The
United Negro College Fund, etc. and as long as there's affirmative
action there's going to be divisiveness between Blacks and Whites.
It's the Blacks who are the cause of the divisiveness between Blacks
and Whites.

You need an attitude adjustment. You are aware that if someone infringes
YOUR civil rights, the ACLU will fight the case for you? I guess black
people should just shut up and take whatever falls from the table?

On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 22:29:12 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Jun 20, 12:01?am, "modom (palindrome guy>
>> I for one have observed Juneteenth annually as a part of my American
>> heritage for decades. ?The white v black presumption is bogus and only
>> serves to perpetuate divisiveness among our people. ?It is time that
>> we emancipate ourselves of such limited thinking. ?Be free!
>>
>
>As long as Blacks insist on having separate holidays for just
>themselves and as long as there's groups like the NAACP, the ACLU, The
>United Negro College Fund, etc. and as long as there's affirmative
>action there's going to be divisiveness between Blacks and Whites.
>It's the Blacks who are the cause of the divisiveness between Blacks
>and Whites.

Howdy,

Apparently you are concerned about affirmative action in its
present form, and that is certainly a legitimate opinion.

But I would like to know if you are equally concerned about
the affirmative action that advantaged white folks in the
U.S. from the dawn of its founding to the present?

Many thanks,
--
Kenneth

If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS."

Giusi wrote:
> > ha scritto nel messaggioOn Jun 20, 12:01?am, "modom
> (palindrome guy>
>> I for one have observed Juneteenth annually as a part of my American
>> heritage for decades. ?The white v black presumption is bogus and only
>> serves to perpetuate divisiveness among our people. >
>
> As long as Blacks insist on having separate holidays for just
> themselves and as long as there's groups like the NAACP, the ACLU, The
> United Negro College Fund, etc. and as long as there's affirmative
> action there's going to be divisiveness between Blacks and Whites.
> It's the Blacks who are the cause of the divisiveness between Blacks
> and Whites.
>
> You need an attitude adjustment. You are aware that if someone infringes
> YOUR civil rights, the ACLU will fight the case for you? I guess black
> people should just shut up and take whatever falls from the table?
>
>
It wasn't too long ago that the ACLU went to court to protect a Ku Klux
Klan rally's right to march and protest. The ACLU is a PITA to most of
us but occasionally they do something right.

In article >,
"Bob Terwilliger" > wrote:

> I'm working tonight, but Lin and I had a big ol' barbecue dinner last night,
> complete with corn on the cob, beef ribs, pork ribs, pulled pork, barbecued
> chicken, a HUGE grilled artichoke, mixed vegetables (lima beans, tomatoes,
> onions, and zucchini), macaroni & cheese, and watermelon.

For two people??? Holy crap!
>
> <rant> Why do all the watermelons these days have next to no rind? When I
> was a kid, watermelons would have at least an inch of white rind which could
> be made into pickles. Nowadays whenever I get a watermelon there's less than
> a quarter-inch of white rind between the pink flesh and the hard outer
> rind.</rant>
>
> Bob

It's the question on melon pickles maker's lips, Bob. I suspect it's a
result of melons being developed for more flesh. JMO. If you can find
Black Diamond watermelons, I've been told they still have a rind worthy
of becoming pickles.

Speaking of Watermelon Pickles
(These are a three-day project)

===============
Watermelon Pickles

1 thick rind of one large watermelon
7 cups sugar (3-1/2#)
1/2 teaspoon oil of cinnamon
1/2 teaspoon oil of clove
1 pint cider vinegar (2 cups)

Peel and cut into chunks the rind of one large watermelon. Cover with
boiling water and cook until tender (can put a toothpick in it) -- maybe
a half hour? Drain well.

Make a syrup of sugar, oils, and vinegar. Bring it to a boil and pour
over well-drained rinds, in a non-metal bowl. Let stand 24 hours; drain
off syrup and re-heat it and pour over the rinds again let stand 24
hours. On the 3rd day, heat the rinds in the syrup and put in hot jars
and seal. Yield: 6-8 pints.

Also, I stick these in a boiling water bath for about 5 minutes to be
sure they seal.

Notes: First Place, Minnesota State Fair, 1985, 1986, 1997, 2007.
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
Huffy and Bubbles Do France: http://www.jamlady.eboard.com

Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> In article >,
> "Bob Terwilliger" > wrote:
>
>> I'm working tonight, but Lin and I had a big ol' barbecue dinner last night,
>> complete with corn on the cob, beef ribs, pork ribs, pulled pork, barbecued
>> chicken, a HUGE grilled artichoke, mixed vegetables (lima beans, tomatoes,
>> onions, and zucchini), macaroni & cheese, and watermelon.
>
> For two people??? Holy crap!
>> <rant> Why do all the watermelons these days have next to no rind? When I
>> was a kid, watermelons would have at least an inch of white rind which could
>> be made into pickles. Nowadays whenever I get a watermelon there's less than
>> a quarter-inch of white rind between the pink flesh and the hard outer
>> rind.</rant>
>>
>> Bob
>
> It's the question on melon pickles maker's lips, Bob. I suspect it's a
> result of melons being developed for more flesh. JMO. If you can find
> Black Diamond watermelons, I've been told they still have a rind worthy
> of becoming pickles.
>
> Speaking of Watermelon Pickles
> (These are a three-day project)
>
> ===============
> Watermelon Pickles
>
> 1 thick rind of one large watermelon
> 7 cups sugar (3-1/2#)
> 1/2 teaspoon oil of cinnamon
> 1/2 teaspoon oil of clove
> 1 pint cider vinegar (2 cups)
>
> Peel and cut into chunks the rind of one large watermelon. Cover with
> boiling water and cook until tender (can put a toothpick in it) -- maybe
> a half hour? Drain well.
>
> Make a syrup of sugar, oils, and vinegar. Bring it to a boil and pour
> over well-drained rinds, in a non-metal bowl. Let stand 24 hours; drain
> off syrup and re-heat it and pour over the rinds again let stand 24
> hours. On the 3rd day, heat the rinds in the syrup and put in hot jars
> and seal. Yield: 6-8 pints.
>
> Also, I stick these in a boiling water bath for about 5 minutes to be
> sure they seal.
>
> Notes: First Place, Minnesota State Fair, 1985, 1986, 1997, 2007.
Black Diamond melons, my Dad used to raise those back in the forties and
fifties. Absolutely delicious. Watermelon rind pickles - Miz Anne loves
those things and I wouldn't eat one if it was forced on me. Some things
are just meant to be composted, not eaten. <VBG>

On Jun 19, 2:56*pm, "modom (palindrome guy)" > wrote:
> It's Juneteenth. *Everybody celebrate! *Eat ribs!

Hells bells! I barely observe all of the other holidays. Sure, I
take
off Memorial Day and the Fourth of July, but they're just an extra
opportunity to get some work done around the house.

Christmas and Thanksgiving are a day at home with my husband,
although we almost always cook a turkey on Thanksgiving.

Everything else is a "Hallmark holiday", and we can't be bothered.

Of course, every day is a celebration of our lives together, although
on
some occasions is is a very, very quiet celebration.

Cindy Hamilton

On Fri 20 Jun 2008 03:17:14a, Giusi told us...

> > ha scritto nel messaggio news:b5c2108f-91b9-
> Juneteenth is simply another made up holiday that Blacks made up for
> just themselves, just like Kwanzaa. You;d never hear the end of it if
> someone tried to to institute a holiday just for Whites.
>
> Maybe the emancipation of slaves is valued only by black people where
> you come from, but in my world everyone is happy there are no more legal
> slaves. Would you have the US be the only country that doesn't use
> metric AND the only slaveholding country?

No, I wouldn't. However, I see no reason why whites would necessarily
celebrate the end of slavery. We weren't slaves. It is certainly
reasonable that blacks would celebrate that event.



--
Wayne Boatwright
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Friday, 06(VI)/20(XX)/08(MMVIII)
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-------------------------------------------
Physics is not a religion. If it were,
we'd have a much easier time raising money.
-------------------------------------------

Wayne Boatwright wrote:


> No, I wouldn't. However, I see no reason why whites would necessarily
> celebrate the end of slavery. We weren't slaves.

Not *then*. But it's certainly a scourge that might have spread based
on various bogus racial or socio-economic standards.

> It is certainly reasonable that blacks would celebrate that event.

While I don't don a party hat or lift a glass, I do occasionally take a
minute and reflect on my gratitude for my and my children's freedom from
smallpox, polio, and whooping cough. If somebody else wants to grill
some ribs for those or any else pernicious conditions conquered, more
power to 'em, be they black or white.

On Fri 20 Jun 2008 10:19:51a, Kathleen told us...

> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
>
>> No, I wouldn't. However, I see no reason why whites would necessarily
>> celebrate the end of slavery. We weren't slaves.
>
> Not *then*. But it's certainly a scourge that might have spread based
> on various bogus racial or socio-economic standards.

I doubt that would have ever happened in the South where black slavery
predominated and there was far more racial distinction than class
distinction.

>
>> It is certainly reasonable that blacks would celebrate that event.
>
> While I don't don a party hat or lift a glass, I do occasionally take a
> minute and reflect on my gratitude for my and my children's freedom from
> smallpox, polio, and whooping cough. If somebody else wants to grill
> some ribs for those or any else pernicious conditions conquered, more
> power to 'em, be they black or white.

I totally agree.



--
Wayne Boatwright
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Friday, 06(VI)/20(XX)/08(MMVIII)
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-------------------------------------------
Use your wit to amuse, not abuse nor
confuse the stupid.
-------------------------------------------

On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:44:37 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Jun 19, 2:56?pm, "modom (palindrome guy)" > wrote:
>> It's Juneteenth. ?Everybody celebrate! ?Eat ribs!
>> --
>>
>> modom
>> ** Posted fromhttp://www.teranews.com**
>
>Juneteenth is simply another made up holiday that Blacks made up for
>just themselves, just like Kwanzaa. You;d never hear the end of it if
>someone tried to to institute a holiday just for Whites.

look it up, you ignorant dickhead.

blake

On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 19:02:09 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Jun 19, 8:51?pm, George Shirley > wrote:
>> Actually it's a celebration of the date that the US Army landed in
>> Galveston and proclaimed the Emancipation Proclamation. It has also been
>> a big holiday in Texas since 1865 and is becoming one here in Texas.
>
>
>Like I said, a holiday for Blacks only.

so sorry if you think the emancipation of the slaves was a bad idea.

your pal,
blake

On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 01:06:08 -0700, "Bob Terwilliger"
> wrote:

>cybercat wrote:
>
>>> So, cybercat, what did *you* make to celebrate Juneteenth? I mean, Wayne
>>> can be excused because he'd never heard of it, but your tone indicates
>>> that you were MORE than familiar with the occasion. So what did you do to
>>> celebrate?
>>
>> I celebrated by just being who I am.
>
>
>Oh, so your superior, sneering tone was backed up by no REAL recognition of
>the occasion. "Oh now this is a big surprise."
>
>BTW, Juneteenth is most emphatically NOT the anniversary of Emancipation,
>unless you're in Texas. The anniversary of Emancipation would be the date
>when Abraham Lincoln signed the Emancipation Proclamation: September 22nd. I
>note further that slavery continued to exist after the Emancipation
>Proclamation in several states; slavery was not completely abolished until
>December 18th, 1865, when the 13th Amendment was finally declared to have
>been ratified.

yes, the emancipation proclamation applied only to the states in
rebellion.

your pal,
blake

On Jun 19, 1:56 pm, "modom (palindrome guy)" > wrote:
> It's Juneteenth. Everybody celebrate! Eat ribs!
> --
>
> modom
> ** Posted fromhttp://www.teranews.com**

Just another fake holiday, as far as I can see. Although I don't
think this one can be blamed on Hallmark.

N.

On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 22:29:12 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Jun 20, 12:01?am, "modom (palindrome guy>
>> I for one have observed Juneteenth annually as a part of my American
>> heritage for decades. ?The white v black presumption is bogus and only
>> serves to perpetuate divisiveness among our people. ?It is time that
>> we emancipate ourselves of such limited thinking. ?Be free!
>>
>
>As long as Blacks insist on having separate holidays for just
>themselves and as long as there's groups like the NAACP, the ACLU, The
>United Negro College Fund, etc. and as long as there's affirmative
>action there's going to be divisiveness between Blacks and Whites.
>It's the Blacks who are the cause of the divisiveness between Blacks
>and Whites.

the a.c.l.u. is a black front group? you really are an ignorant
dickhead.

blake

On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 07:23:54 -0500, George Shirley
> wrote:

>Giusi wrote:
>> > ha scritto nel messaggioOn Jun 20, 12:01?am, "modom
>> (palindrome guy>
>>> I for one have observed Juneteenth annually as a part of my American
>>> heritage for decades. ?The white v black presumption is bogus and only
>>> serves to perpetuate divisiveness among our people. >
>>
>> As long as Blacks insist on having separate holidays for just
>> themselves and as long as there's groups like the NAACP, the ACLU, The
>> United Negro College Fund, etc. and as long as there's affirmative
>> action there's going to be divisiveness between Blacks and Whites.
>> It's the Blacks who are the cause of the divisiveness between Blacks
>> and Whites.
>>
>> You need an attitude adjustment. You are aware that if someone infringes
>> YOUR civil rights, the ACLU will fight the case for you? I guess black
>> people should just shut up and take whatever falls from the table?
>>
>>
>It wasn't too long ago that the ACLU went to court to protect a Ku Klux
>Klan rally's right to march and protest. The ACLU is a PITA to most of
>us but occasionally they do something right.

i would reverse that. only *very* occasionally do they do something
irritating; ninety-nine percent of the time they're on the right side
of things. they favor the constitution, in particular the first ten
amendments. i know that is somewhat out of fashion in the current
administration - 'a goddamn piece of paper' - but it's what we have,
and ignored at out peril.

your pal,
blake

On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 07:20:19 -0400, Kenneth
> wrote:

>On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 22:29:12 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:
>
>>On Jun 20, 12:01?am, "modom (palindrome guy>
>>> I for one have observed Juneteenth annually as a part of my American
>>> heritage for decades. ?The white v black presumption is bogus and only
>>> serves to perpetuate divisiveness among our people. ?It is time that
>>> we emancipate ourselves of such limited thinking. ?Be free!
>>>
>>
>>As long as Blacks insist on having separate holidays for just
>>themselves and as long as there's groups like the NAACP, the ACLU, The
>>United Negro College Fund, etc. and as long as there's affirmative
>>action there's going to be divisiveness between Blacks and Whites.
>>It's the Blacks who are the cause of the divisiveness between Blacks
>>and Whites.
>
>Howdy,
>
>Apparently you are concerned about affirmative action in its
>present form, and that is certainly a legitimate opinion.
>
>But I would like to know if you are equally concerned about
>the affirmative action that advantaged white folks in the
>U.S. from the dawn of its founding to the present?
>
>Many thanks,

i guess he figures two wrongs don't make a right.

your pal,
blake

On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 21:04:36 -0700 (PDT), aem >
wrote:

>On Jun 19, 4:44*pm, " > wrote:
>>
>> Juneteenth is simply another made up holiday that Blacks made up for
>> just themselves, just like Kwanzaa. *You;d never hear the end of it if
>> someone tried to to institute a holiday just for Whites.
>
>The holiday commemorates the end of slavery -- are you saying that's
>something whites shouldn't celebrate? -aem

that's exactly what he's saying. if we still had slavery, he wouldn't
have to do his shitty job cleaning toilets.

your pal,
blake

Barb wrote:

> For two people??? * Holy crap!

LOL!!!! It wasn't all in one sitting ... leftovers, leftovers,
leftovers. Having extras keeps me from being in the kitchen every
night when it is so blast-furnace hot here these days.

> It's the question on melon pickles maker's lips, Bob. *I suspect it's a
> result of melons being developed for more flesh. *JMO. *If you can find
> Black Diamond watermelons, I've been told they still have a rind worthy
> of becoming pickles.

I'll be in Oklahoma for a couple weeks this July. Just about every
farm stand has Black Diamonds there. Since I am driving, I can haul
some back and we can give your tasty-looking recipe a whirl! Thanks
for that!

--Lin

modom (palindrome guy) wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:44:37 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
>> On Jun 19, 2:56?pm, "modom (palindrome guy)" > wrote:
>>> It's Juneteenth. ?Everybody celebrate! ?Eat ribs!
>> Juneteenth is simply another made up holiday that Blacks made up for
>> just themselves, just like Kwanzaa. You;d never hear the end of it if
>> someone tried to to institute a holiday just for Whites.
>
> It is not a "made up holiday"

Well, all holidays are made-up holidays, but still, I love your post,
and appreciate your speaking up against racism here.

> it is a celebration of freedom with a
> rich historical foundation. See:
> http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...,00.html?imw=Y
>
> See also: http://www.juneteenth.com/history.htm
>
> I for one have observed Juneteenth annually as a part of my American
> heritage for decades. The white v black presumption is bogus and only
> serves to perpetuate divisiveness among our people. It is time that
> we emancipate ourselves of such limited thinking. Be free!
>
> OBJuneteenth food: Pulled pork leftovers with marinated bean salad
> and slaw for dinner tonight. Before that we had a delicious Italian
> red wine with my homemade prosciutto. Juneteenth prosciutto for
> everyone! Freedom tastes great!

We're having summer foods today; for Juneteenth, I'm thinking of making
Ethiopian food.

Serene

"George Shirley" > wrote in message
...
> Giusi wrote:
>> > ha scritto nel messaggioOn Jun 20, 12:01?am, "modom
>> (palindrome guy>
>>> I for one have observed Juneteenth annually as a part of my American
>>> heritage for decades. ?The white v black presumption is bogus and only
>>> serves to perpetuate divisiveness among our people. >
>>
>> As long as Blacks insist on having separate holidays for just
>> themselves and as long as there's groups like the NAACP, the ACLU, The
>> United Negro College Fund, etc. and as long as there's affirmative
>> action there's going to be divisiveness between Blacks and Whites.
>> It's the Blacks who are the cause of the divisiveness between Blacks
>> and Whites.
>>
>> You need an attitude adjustment. You are aware that if someone infringes
>> YOUR civil rights, the ACLU will fight the case for you? I guess black
>> people should just shut up and take whatever falls from the table?
> It wasn't too long ago that the ACLU went to court to protect a Ku Klux
> Klan rally's right to march and protest. The ACLU is a PITA to most of us
> but occasionally they do something right.

I remember that, George, it was in Skokie, IL. The Klan applied for a legal
permit to march and were denied. The ACLU took their case and won it for
them stating they did everything correctly by asking for the permit. It
wasn't up to the granting authority to like what they were doing just make
sure it was done legally. There was a dust up, but the march never would
have gotten half the press if they didn't appeal the decision and file with
the ACLU.
-ginny

Virginia Tadrzynski wrote:
> "George Shirley" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Giusi wrote:
>>> > ha scritto nel messaggioOn Jun 20, 12:01?am, "modom
>>> (palindrome guy>
>>>> I for one have observed Juneteenth annually as a part of my American
>>>> heritage for decades. ?The white v black presumption is bogus and only
>>>> serves to perpetuate divisiveness among our people. >
>>> As long as Blacks insist on having separate holidays for just
>>> themselves and as long as there's groups like the NAACP, the ACLU, The
>>> United Negro College Fund, etc. and as long as there's affirmative
>>> action there's going to be divisiveness between Blacks and Whites.
>>> It's the Blacks who are the cause of the divisiveness between Blacks
>>> and Whites.
>>>
>>> You need an attitude adjustment. You are aware that if someone infringes
>>> YOUR civil rights, the ACLU will fight the case for you? I guess black
>>> people should just shut up and take whatever falls from the table?
>> It wasn't too long ago that the ACLU went to court to protect a Ku Klux
>> Klan rally's right to march and protest. The ACLU is a PITA to most of us
>> but occasionally they do something right.
>
> I remember that, George, it was in Skokie, IL. The Klan applied for a legal
> permit to march and were denied. The ACLU took their case and won it for
> them stating they did everything correctly by asking for the permit. It
> wasn't up to the granting authority to like what they were doing just make
> sure it was done legally. There was a dust up, but the march never would
> have gotten half the press if they didn't appeal the decision and file with
> the ACLU.
> -ginny
>
>
Once upon a time, in a land far, far away. I as in a military unit that
used the misnomer "Military Intelligence." One of my duties was to
attend the Klan rallies in a nearby town. It would be me in full
uniform, a Texas Ranger in full suit and white Stetson, an FBI agent,
and maybe a couple of State Troopers. We would stand together, take
pictures when we thought it necessary, and just shake our heads over the
doings. Got to hear David Duke give a speech once, the man is a kook but
charismatic. The worse part was the little kids, four and five years
old, dressed in their satin sheets, being brainwashed by a bunch of old
bigots. They couldn't keep us out, was part of their permit to gather on
private property and make noise.

And, no, I'm not any part black as far as I know. Mostly Native American
with some English blood injected into the bloodline back in the late
fifteenth century.

George