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KTVU just announced that we have over 1000 wild fires burning in
California right now. Today was declared an unhealthy air day.
Children and people with breathing problems are advised to stay inside
with the windows closed (our eyes have been burning for days). There
is a high overcast today. I guess it's really smoke in the upper
atmosphere.

The fires range from Del Norte County to Monterey County (Big Sur and
the Ventana Wilderness have one each).
http://activefiremaps.fs.fed.us/#


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On 2008-06-26, sf <> wrote:
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> KTVU just announced that we have over 1000 wild fires burning in


C'mon sf.... there's a 1K wildfires burning in CA every year from May-Nov.
This is not new or news. CA has a rainy Winter and it's the "worst fire
season ever" (WFSE) due to excessive new-growth ground cover (firefighting
terminology) and if CA has a dry Winter, it's the WFSE because all the
existing ground cover is "extremely dry". Pshaw! IOW, it's been the WFSE
for as long as newscasting has been grasping for hot (pun intended) news
stories. As an ex-firefighter, I've laughed at the news coverage of CA
"wild fires" for years. Now, it's just sad.

BTW, have you actually paid attention to the forests up in the Sierra's? The
US and CA forestry depts have been so effective at controlling foreset fires
for the last 100 yrs, the tree density is obscenely unnaturally high. I've
seen stands where trees are as close a foot apart! This is Conflagration
City and is as risky as it gets. Expect more and bigger fires this year,
cuz it's..... wait for it ...... THE WORST FIRE SEASON EVER!

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sf wrote:
> KTVU just announced that we have over 1000 wild fires burning in
> California right now. Today was declared an unhealthy air day.
> Children and people with breathing problems are advised to stay inside
> with the windows closed (our eyes have been burning for days). There
> is a high overcast today. I guess it's really smoke in the upper
> atmosphere.
>
> The fires range from Del Norte County to Monterey County (Big Sur and
> the Ventana Wilderness have one each).
> http://activefiremaps.fs.fed.us/#
>
>

Oh my! The map really gives a grim picture. And that smoke is
affecting folks who live far away (e.g., Nevada).

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> On 2008-06-26, sf <> wrote:
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>> KTVU just announced that we have over 1000 wild fires burning in

>
> C'mon sf.... there's a 1K wildfires burning in CA every year from
> May-Nov. This is not new or news. CA has a rainy Winter and it's the
> "worst fire season ever" (WFSE) due to excessive new-growth ground
> cover (firefighting terminology) and if CA has a dry Winter, it's the
> WFSE because all the existing ground cover is "extremely dry".




Normal fuel loads for most areas is approx 5-6 tonnes per hectare.


I'm in an area that has (at last observation 2 months ago) approx 55
tph.


Shit happens.



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Kill You. These days, I do not have to visit exotic overseas countries
as my Countries Enemies are seen wallowing around our seats of
government, they guzzle and cavort at the Public trough so deeply they
make Caligula and Nero look like Church choir boys."


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On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 12:07:40 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:

>sf wrote:
>> KTVU just announced that we have over 1000 wild fires burning in
>> California right now. Today was declared an unhealthy air day.
>> Children and people with breathing problems are advised to stay inside
>> with the windows closed (our eyes have been burning for days). There
>> is a high overcast today. I guess it's really smoke in the upper
>> atmosphere.
>>
>> The fires range from Del Norte County to Monterey County (Big Sur and
>> the Ventana Wilderness have one each).
>> http://activefiremaps.fs.fed.us/#
>>
>>

>Oh my! The map really gives a grim picture. And that smoke is
>affecting folks who live far away (e.g., Nevada).


When the air quality affects us on the foggy side of San Francisco,
it's bad. http://www.ktvu.com/news/16717109/detail.html


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On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 12:07:40 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:

>sf wrote:
>> KTVU just announced that we have over 1000 wild fires burning in
>> California right now. Today was declared an unhealthy air day.
>> Children and people with breathing problems are advised to stay inside
>> with the windows closed (our eyes have been burning for days). There
>> is a high overcast today. I guess it's really smoke in the upper
>> atmosphere.
>>
>> The fires range from Del Norte County to Monterey County (Big Sur and
>> the Ventana Wilderness have one each).
>> http://activefiremaps.fs.fed.us/#
>>
>>

>Oh my! The map really gives a grim picture. And that smoke is
>affecting folks who live far away (e.g., Nevada).


When the poor air quality affects us on the foggy side of San
Francisco, it's bad.... apparently winds are blowing from the North
and that's why. http://www.ktvu.com/news/16717109/detail.html It's
really weird. The sun is shining brightly, but look up - you can't
see the sun and the sky is silver gray.


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sf <.> wrote in :

> When the poor air quality affects us on the foggy side of San
> Francisco, it's bad.... apparently winds are blowing from the North
> and that's why. http://www.ktvu.com/news/16717109/detail.html It's
> really weird. The sun is shining brightly, but look up - you can't
> see the sun and the sky is silver gray.


My wife, who is mildly asthmatic, was in Berkeley for the last few days
at a workshop on health and the environment, of all things, and she said
the ambient smoke was pretty bad.

Her exact words we "I went out this morning to get a coffee...it was
smokey from the forest fires...I`ve been using my puffer, but that
doesn`t keep my eyes from watering."

She'll be flying out to Vancouver to spend a few days with my daughter,
leaving in about three hours. I keep thinking that it'll be one of these
hair-raising escapes, with the door of the airplane open as people are
piling in and the flames are licking at the fuel tanks...:-) Suddenly,
Ken Arrow appears out of nowhere and applies his impossibility theorem to
the fire and snuffs it out, thus demonstrating beyond a shadow of a doubt
that economists actually *have* a use in society ;-)

Before anybody says anything, my wife is an economist. They talk a good
line but we historians are harder to impress than that. We are very much
aware that meteorologists have a better prediction rate than economists
:-)

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On 2008-06-26, PeterLucas > wrote:

> I'm in an area that has (at last observation 2 months ago) approx 55
> tph.
>
>
> Shit happens.


Yep. And CA'ians insist on building right smack dab in the middle of it and
wonder why they get burned out, year after year. Duh.

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On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 13:26:07 -0500, Michel Boucher
> wrote:

> I keep thinking that it'll be one of these
>hair-raising escapes, with the door of the airplane open as people are
>piling in and the flames are licking at the fuel tanks...:-) Suddenly,
>Ken Arrow appears out of nowhere and applies his impossibility theorem to
>the fire and snuffs it out, thus demonstrating beyond a shadow of a doubt
>that economists actually *have* a use in society ;-)


The worst we have near the cities are brush fires and they're pretty
far away. There was a big one last weekend between Fairfield and
Vacaville last weekend.... the smoke and scorched earth went on for
miles right next to the freeway.

Don't worry, she won't need rescuing... and she'll fly to Vancouver!
Love it there.


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> On 2008-06-26, sf <> wrote:
>> KTVU just announced that we have over 1000 wild fires burning in

>
> C'mon sf.... there's a 1K wildfires burning in CA every year from May-Nov.


And WHY post it on a cooking group???
ObFood- I recall how they fed the relief workers in New Orleans after
Katrina. What a huge production that became! But some folks got some
goooood eats from displaced chefs.


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On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:30:32 -0400, Goomba >
wrote:

>notbob wrote:
>> On 2008-06-26, sf <> wrote:
>>> KTVU just announced that we have over 1000 wild fires burning in

>>
>> C'mon sf.... there's a 1K wildfires burning in CA every year from May-Nov.

>
>And WHY post it on a cooking group???


Obviously because she has no life and feels the left coast is the only
place in the world that has natural disasters. Huge parts of the
midwest are underwater at the moment including an incredible amount of
farmland. But none of us needs to start a thread about it. I drove
through it last weekend and it would have been close to being on
topic, but we don't need to cry here. Just move on.

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On 2008-06-26, Goomba > wrote:

> And WHY post it on a cooking group???


BBQ?

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> On 2008-06-26, Goomba > wrote:
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>> And WHY post it on a cooking group???

>
> BBQ?


Some of it might be mesquite.


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>> And WHY post it on a cooking group???

>
> BBQ?
>
> nb


Good plan!
Talk about "taking lemons and making lemonaid" (cliche food reference too!)
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"sf" <.> wrote in message ...
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> KTVU just announced that we have over 1000 wild fires burning in
> California right now. Today was declared an unhealthy air day.
> Children and people with breathing problems are advised to stay inside
> with the windows closed (our eyes have been burning for days). There
> is a high overcast today. I guess it's really smoke in the upper
> atmosphere.
>
> The fires range from Del Norte County to Monterey County (Big Sur and
> the Ventana Wilderness have one each).
> http://activefiremaps.fs.fed.us/#



I read about the lightning that caused so many fires the other day. The
current fires are a good distance from us, but we haven't forgotten the
recent fires here in San Diego county, and I hope you and everyone in the
region stay safe from their rampages.

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"sf" <.> wrote in message ...
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> KTVU just announced that we have over 1000 wild fires burning in
> California right now. Today was declared an unhealthy air day.
> Children and people with breathing problems are advised to stay inside
> with the windows closed (our eyes have been burning for days). There
> is a high overcast today. I guess it's really smoke in the upper
> atmosphere.
>
> The fires range from Del Norte County to Monterey County (Big Sur and
> the Ventana Wilderness have one each).
> http://activefiremaps.fs.fed.us/#
>
>
> --
> I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the
> number of carats in a diamond.
>
> Mae West


2 days ago the sign on Hwy 1 & 46 said Hwy 1 closed 78 miles north of
Cambria. Today the sign said Hwy 1 closed 56 miles north of Cambria.

Getting closer?

I think today I could smoke some ribs by just leaving them on the balcony
railing.

:-(


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On Jun 26, 10:38*am, sf <.> wrote:
> When the poor air quality affects us on the foggy side of San
> Francisco, it's bad.... apparently winds are blowing from the North
> and that's why. *http://www.ktvu.com/news/16717109/detail.html*It's
> really weird. *The sun is shining brightly, but look up - you can't
> see the sun and the sky is silver gray.


someone in the KGO helicopter described the look of the sky as flying
around in nonfat milk. Hey, that's even on topic!

Karen

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On Jun 26, 5:32*pm, "Dimitri" > wrote:
> 2 days ago the sign on Hwy 1 & 46 said Hwy 1 closed 78 miles north of
> Cambria. Today the sign said Hwy 1 closed 56 miles north of Cambria.
>
> Getting closer?
>
> I think today I could smoke some ribs by just leaving them on the balcony
> railing.


Are you in Cambria, Dimitri?

That is the cutest town!

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Karen > wrote:

>On Jun 26, 10:38*am, sf <.> wrote:


>> When the poor air quality affects us on the foggy side of San
>> Francisco, it's bad.... apparently winds are blowing from the North
>> and that's why. *http://www.ktvu.com/news/16717109/detail.html*It's
>> really weird. *The sun is shining brightly, but look up - you can't
>> see the sun and the sky is silver gray.


>someone in the KGO helicopter described the look of the sky as flying
>around in nonfat milk. Hey, that's even on topic!


I was surprised to see them parallel landing at SFO today.
I thought that required better visibility.

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On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 18:44:35 GMT, notbob > fired up
random neurons and synapses to opine:

>On 2008-06-26, PeterLucas > wrote:
>
>> I'm in an area that has (at last observation 2 months ago) approx 55
>> tph.
>>
>>
>> Shit happens.

>
>Yep. And CA'ians insist on building right smack dab in the middle of it and
>wonder why they get burned out, year after year. Duh.


Yeah, and those idiots in Florida, Georgia, the Carolinas, Alabama,
Louisiana, Mississippi and Texas insist on continuing to live there,
one hurricane season after another. And those folks in Oklahoma,
Arkansas, Missouri and Kansas - jaysus, don't they see "tornado"
stamped on their foreheads? And what about those maroons in Iowa,
Missouri, Illinois, Arkansas, etc., who are living alongside the
Mississippi? Don't those periodic floods make an impact on their
housing decisions? Duh.

OB: Just found a cool looking new recipe I'm going to try out for the
granddaughter's birthday dinner on Saturday:

@@@@@ Now You're Cooking! Export Format

Roasted Garlic Cheese Toasts

appetizers, breads

3 heads garlic; top 3/4 inch cut off
1/4 cup olive oil
3/4 cup parmesan cheese; grated
1/4 cup cream cheese; room temperature
2 tablespoon mayonnaise
1 teaspoon thyme
1 baguette; cut in 1/2 inch slices

Preheat oven to 350°. Place garlic, cut side up, in small glass baking
dish; pour oil over each head and sprinkle with salt. Cover; bake
until garlic is tender, about 1 hour. Uncover; let cook 15 mins.
Squeeze garlic from each clove into medium bowl and mash. Mix in
Parmesan, cream cheese, mayonnaise and thyme. Season to taste with
salt and pepper. (Can be made one day ahead; cover and refrigerate.
Allow to soften slightly at room temperature before continuing.)

Preheat oven to 425°. Spread garlic mixture on bread slices; arrange
on 2 baking sheets. Bake until toasts are beginning to brown at edges,
about 12 mins.

Contributor: Bon Appetit

Yield: Makes about 32

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd <head shaking>
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waitress's, it would have been a very good dinner."

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Squeaks wrote:

>> Yep. And CA'ians insist on building right smack dab in the middle of it
>> and wonder why they get burned out, year after year. Duh.

>
> Yeah, and those idiots in Florida, Georgia, the Carolinas, Alabama,
> Louisiana, Mississippi and Texas insist on continuing to live there,
> one hurricane season after another. And those folks in Oklahoma,
> Arkansas, Missouri and Kansas - jaysus, don't they see "tornado"
> stamped on their foreheads? And what about those maroons in Iowa,
> Missouri, Illinois, Arkansas, etc., who are living alongside the
> Mississippi? Don't those periodic floods make an impact on their
> housing decisions? Duh.


A couple decades ago, I ran through that same train of thought, wondering
where I'd want to settle down. I finally decided that the safest place to be
was the Pacific Northwest. Then Mount St. Helens erupted.

FWIW, *before* the wildfires came this year, I heard a very interesting
radio spot. The announcer pointed out that centuries ago, the vegetation in
Northern California was adapted to wet summers. [He said] We have fossil
evidence and archaeological evidence to prove that. But now, the vegetation
has adapted to the "natural" conditions of the present day: Forest fires.
The point of the ad was to announce a Sierra-County community-education
initiative to teach people how to protect themselves and their properties
from the fires -- because the fires *would* come, whether people were ready
or not.

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In article >,
Terry Pulliam Burd > wrote:

> On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 18:44:35 GMT, notbob > fired up
> random neurons and synapses to opine:


> >Yep. And CA'ians insist on building right smack dab in the middle of it and
> >wonder why they get burned out, year after year. Duh.

>
> Yeah, and those idiots in Florida, Georgia, the Carolinas, Alabama,
> Louisiana, Mississippi and Texas insist on continuing to live there,
> one hurricane season after another. And those folks in Oklahoma,
> Arkansas, Missouri and Kansas - jaysus, don't they see "tornado"
> stamped on their foreheads? And what about those maroons in Iowa,
> Missouri, Illinois, Arkansas, etc., who are living alongside the
> Mississippi? Don't those periodic floods make an impact on their
> housing decisions? Duh.


All good reasons why I live where I do. "-) Don't you know that we
promote the myth of our winters to help keep the riff-raff out.
>
> OB: Just found a cool looking new recipe I'm going to try out for the
> granddaughter's birthday dinner on Saturday:


> Roasted Garlic Cheese Toasts
> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd <head shaking>

Looks good. If you make it, report back, eh?
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It's a new twist on an old appetizer - you could leave out the cream
cheese and still have a very nice spread. Copied and saved, thanks!


````````````

On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 23:05:04 -0700, Terry Pulliam Burd
> wrote:

>Roasted Garlic Cheese Toasts
>
>appetizers, breads
>
>3 heads garlic; top 3/4 inch cut off
>1/4 cup olive oil
>3/4 cup parmesan cheese; grated
>1/4 cup cream cheese; room temperature
>2 tablespoon mayonnaise
>1 teaspoon thyme
>1 baguette; cut in 1/2 inch slices
>
>Preheat oven to 350°. Place garlic, cut side up, in small glass baking
>dish; pour oil over each head and sprinkle with salt. Cover; bake
>until garlic is tender, about 1 hour. Uncover; let cook 15 mins.
>Squeeze garlic from each clove into medium bowl and mash. Mix in
>Parmesan, cream cheese, mayonnaise and thyme. Season to taste with
>salt and pepper. (Can be made one day ahead; cover and refrigerate.
>Allow to soften slightly at room temperature before continuing.)
>
>Preheat oven to 425°. Spread garlic mixture on bread slices; arrange
>on 2 baking sheets. Bake until toasts are beginning to brown at edges,
>about 12 mins.
>
>Contributor: Bon Appetit
>
>Yield: Makes about 32




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> On 2008-06-26, PeterLucas > wrote:
>
>> I'm in an area that has (at last observation 2 months ago) approx 55
>> tph.
>>
>>
>> Shit happens.

>
> Yep. And CA'ians insist on building right smack dab in the middle of it
> and
> wonder why they get burned out, year after year. Duh.
>
> nb



That argument is completely ridiculous. As recent news proves in such
abundance, natural disasters happen everywhere. If you bothered to read at
all, you'd see many of the current fires are in places that are not
especially prone to wildfires. There was a dry lightning storm that caused
more than 800 fires.

Yes, there've been fires here. There've been earthquakes here. When I lived
in Minnesota it was tornadoes and softball sized hail. When I was in Iowa it
was flooding. There are volcanoes, hurricanes, typhoons, tsunamis,
heatwaves, cold snaps...there are droughts ALL OVER, not just in California.

Someone posted about the wildfires because it is a part of their life at the
current moment. Just as most everyone here has posted about something that
is part of their life at the current moment. Is there not enough negativity
in the world already without responses like yours? I'm not asking folks to
sing a round of kumbaya...but come on people. Really.

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>
> "notbob" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 2008-06-26, PeterLucas > wrote:
>>
>>> I'm in an area that has (at last observation 2 months ago) approx 55
>>> tph.
>>>
>>>
>>> Shit happens.

>>
>> Yep. And CA'ians insist on building right smack dab in the middle of
>> it and
>> wonder why they get burned out, year after year. Duh.
>>
>> nb

>
>
> That argument is completely ridiculous. As recent news proves in such
> abundance, natural disasters happen everywhere. If you bothered to read
> at all, you'd see many of the current fires are in places that are not
> especially prone to wildfires. There was a dry lightning storm that
> caused more than 800 fires.
>
> Yes, there've been fires here. There've been earthquakes here. When I
> lived in Minnesota it was tornadoes and softball sized hail. When I was
> in Iowa it was flooding. There are volcanoes, hurricanes, typhoons,
> tsunamis, heatwaves, cold snaps...there are droughts ALL OVER, not just
> in California.
>
> Someone posted about the wildfires because it is a part of their life at
> the current moment. Just as most everyone here has posted about
> something that is part of their life at the current moment. Is there not
> enough negativity in the world already without responses like yours? I'm
> not asking folks to sing a round of kumbaya...but come on people.
> Really.
>
> kimberly



Los Angeles has fires all the time. I remember when I lived in San Diego,
there was a huge fire in L.A. and the smoke and ash drifted over Ocean
Beach. I could see a black cloud that stretched for miles and it was
snowing, only it was ashes.

My wife and I were driving up in the Malibu Hills and not thinking I threw
my cigarette butt out the window. A few seconds later I slammed on the
brakes, backed up and put it out in the ashtray. What drugs was I on? I
forget.

My cousin had a house in the Oakland hills during the fires there. He ran a
hose with a sprinkler up to the roof, turned on the water and left. When
the fires were out his house was only one of a few left standing. He was so
distraught, he sold the house and moved.

I still have earthquake insurance here in Philly! $75/annual. No claims
yet.

Andy


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Michael "Dog3" said...

> Mother Nature is not to be reckoned with, anywhere.



Why can't she find another planet to play on? I'd chip in!

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On Jun 26, 12:51*pm, Lou Decruss > wrote:
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> >And WHY post it on a cooking group???

>
> Obviously because she has no life and feels the left coast is the only
> place in the world that has natural disasters. *Huge parts of the
> midwest are underwater at the moment including an incredible amount of
> farmland. *But none of us needs to start a thread about it. *I drove
> through it last weekend and it would have been close to being on
> topic, but we don't need to cry here. *Just move on.


The subject header was clearly marked. You could've just skipped over
it.

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On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 23:05:04 -0700, Terry Pulliam Burd
> wrote:

>On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 18:44:35 GMT, notbob > fired up
>random neurons and synapses to opine:
>
>>On 2008-06-26, PeterLucas > wrote:
>>
>>> I'm in an area that has (at last observation 2 months ago) approx 55
>>> tph.
>>>
>>>
>>> Shit happens.

>>
>>Yep. And CA'ians insist on building right smack dab in the middle of it and
>>wonder why they get burned out, year after year. Duh.

>
>Yeah, and those idiots in Florida, Georgia, the Carolinas, Alabama,
>Louisiana, Mississippi and Texas insist on continuing to live there,
>one hurricane season after another. And those folks in Oklahoma,
>Arkansas, Missouri and Kansas - jaysus, don't they see "tornado"
>stamped on their foreheads? And what about those maroons in Iowa,
>Missouri, Illinois, Arkansas, etc., who are living alongside the
>Mississippi? Don't those periodic floods make an impact on their
>housing decisions? Duh.
>


all acts of god. clearly, the thing to do is find out where all the
atheists live and move there, where it's safe.

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On 2008-06-27, Terry Pulliam Burd > wrote:

> Yeah, and those idiots in Florida, Georgia, the Carolinas, Alabama,
> Louisiana, Mississippi and Texas insist on continuing to live there,
> one hurricane season after another. And those folks in Oklahoma,
> Arkansas, Missouri and Kansas - jaysus, don't they see "tornado"
> stamped on their foreheads? And what about those maroons in Iowa,
> Missouri, Illinois, Arkansas, etc., who are living alongside the
> Mississippi? Don't those periodic floods make an impact on their
> housing decisions? Duh.


Some of that has changed. Sure, you can't help living in an earthquake area
or hurricane or tornado, but you can avoid living right in the middle of the
tinderbox or flood plain. Several years back, the feds stopped giving out
low interest emergency loans to those who insisted on building on annual or
semi-annual flood plains. Oops! No more 4.5% loans to rebuild your old
house ever 2-3 yrs. BTW, people were actually doing this on purpose to milk
that program. Natch, you can't avoid all natural disaster areas, but you
can avoid the ones that are almost annual, like the Santa Anna winds
tinderbox areal in SoCal.

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On 2008-06-27, Nexis > wrote:

> Someone posted about the wildfires because it is a part of their life at the
> current moment.


I was just being crotchity cuz CA is a tinderbox and fire there are a given.
It's not random acts of god that MAY happen now and then. CA doesn't get
ANY rainfall for at least 5 mos out of the year. Zero, zip, nada ...EVERY
YEAR!! CA is born to burn and it does it quite well. There are probably
500+ wildfires burning in CA at any given time almost year round. It's not
a question of is there a fire, but where are the fires. Most are up in the
remote mountains, but there are plenty in urban areas, too. In the Summer,
brush fires are a DAILY occurance. Yes... DAILY!! Almost everywhere. CA
is not golden, it's brown. Brown from a natural environment of bone dry
grasses and brush. Brown cuz everything dies in the Summer. Dead, dry,
brown.

It's a testement to the CA water infrastructer and the training of thousands
of CA firefighters that keep all that in check. But, news? Hardly. Not
unless a couple thousand houses go with it like the Oakland Hills fire. That
was un-bee-leeev-able!

> in the world already without responses like yours?


Yeah, I'm a dick. Deal with it.

> I'm not asking folks to
> sing a round of kumbaya...


Thank god! I rather suffer smoke inhalation.

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> Andy <q> : in rec.food.cooking
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>> Michael "Dog3" said...
>>
>>> Mother Nature is not to be reckoned with, anywhere.

>>
>>
>> Why can't she find another planet to play on? I'd chip in!

>
> She probably plays on all the planets. We just don't know it yet
>
> Michael



42?

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"Karen" > wrote in message
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On Jun 26, 5:32 pm, "Dimitri" > wrote:
> 2 days ago the sign on Hwy 1 & 46 said Hwy 1 closed 78 miles north of
> Cambria. Today the sign said Hwy 1 closed 56 miles north of Cambria.
>
> Getting closer?
>
> I think today I could smoke some ribs by just leaving them on the balcony
> railing.


Are you in Cambria, Dimitri?

That is the cutest town!

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In article >,
blake murphy > wrote:

> all acts of god. clearly, the thing to do is find out where all the
> atheists live and move there, where it's safe.


Paraphrasing Jimmy Kimmel recently, 'California has the greatest
concentration of atheists in the United States. On an unrelated note,
California is now ablaze from eight hundred mysterious lightning
strikes'.

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Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
>
> In article >,
> blake murphy > wrote:
>
> > all acts of god. clearly, the thing to do is find out where all the
> > atheists live and move there, where it's safe.

>
> Paraphrasing Jimmy Kimmel recently, 'California has the greatest
> concentration of atheists in the United States. On an unrelated note,
> California is now ablaze from eight hundred mysterious lightning
> strikes'.


That's right. God uses floods on Christians.
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On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 19:11:46 -0700, Mark Thorson >
wrote:

>Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
>>
>> In article >,
>> blake murphy > wrote:
>>
>> > all acts of god. clearly, the thing to do is find out where all the
>> > atheists live and move there, where it's safe.

>>
>> Paraphrasing Jimmy Kimmel recently, 'California has the greatest
>> concentration of atheists in the United States. On an unrelated note,
>> California is now ablaze from eight hundred mysterious lightning
>> strikes'.

>
>That's right. God uses floods on Christians.


He also uses war, plague, pestilence and famine - if that doesn't work
s/he unleashes the locusts.


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On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 17:39:09 -0700, Leonard Blaisdell
> wrote:

>In article >,
> blake murphy > wrote:
>
>> all acts of god. clearly, the thing to do is find out where all the
>> atheists live and move there, where it's safe.

>
>Paraphrasing Jimmy Kimmel recently, 'California has the greatest
>concentration of atheists in the United States. On an unrelated note,
>California is now ablaze from eight hundred mysterious lightning
>strikes'.
>
>leo


i guess atheists like to smoke and are careless with matches.

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On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 20:47:32 -0700, sf <.> wrote:

>On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 19:11:46 -0700, Mark Thorson >
>wrote:
>
>>Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
>>>
>>> In article >,
>>> blake murphy > wrote:
>>>
>>> > all acts of god. clearly, the thing to do is find out where all the
>>> > atheists live and move there, where it's safe.
>>>
>>> Paraphrasing Jimmy Kimmel recently, 'California has the greatest
>>> concentration of atheists in the United States. On an unrelated note,
>>> California is now ablaze from eight hundred mysterious lightning
>>> strikes'.

>>
>>That's right. God uses floods on Christians.

>
>He also uses war, plague, pestilence and famine - if that doesn't work
>s/he unleashes the locusts.


don't forget boils! though i guess He did give rush limbaugh one on
his butt a few years back.

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On Jun 26, 2:26*pm, Michel Boucher > wrote:


> Before anybody says anything, my wife is an economist. *They talk a good
> line but we historians are harder to impress than that. *We are very much
> aware that meteorologists have a better prediction rate than economists
> :-)



You probably have seen it before but anyway.

The only function of economic forecasting is to make astrology look
respectable,
J. K. Galbraith.

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"Mark Thorson" > wrote in message
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> Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
>>
>> In article >,
>> blake murphy > wrote:
>>
>> > all acts of god. clearly, the thing to do is find out where all the
>> > atheists live and move there, where it's safe.

>>
>> Paraphrasing Jimmy Kimmel recently, 'California has the greatest
>> concentration of atheists in the United States. On an unrelated note,
>> California is now ablaze from eight hundred mysterious lightning
>> strikes'.

>
> That's right. God uses floods on Christians.



Hmmm.

*** Marriage became legal last week?


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