The term "Great Room" came along in the late '70's. It replaced the
tradional LR,DR,Den with "Great Room" and formal dining room, thus
getting rid of the formal living room. It started as a larger room than
usual, but eventually shrank. So, it really just got rid of the formal
living room to get more usable square footage for your money.

Libby, former realtor

On Fri 27 Jun 2008 02:55:36p, Goomba told us...

> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>> On Fri 27 Jun 2008 07:18:43a, sf told us...
>>
>>> On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 22:01:18 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Our over the range microwave/exhaust fan exhausts to the outside.
Most
>>>> models are capable of being vented either way, as recirculating our
>>>> outside vent/.
>>> aha. Didn't know. How powerful is it?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I can't give you the CFM, as my manual isn't handy. However, I have no
>> problem with it. The only disadvantage with this type of unit is that
it
>> doesn't extend far enough away from the wall to fully cover the front
>> burners.
>>
> You make me recall old kitchen exhausts that were round and on the wall
> or something. I think you pulled the string and it whirrrled on? And
> some pricey ranges have downward vents, right? I'm going to have to look
> and see what other exhaust fan vents exist and maybe we can use that and
> leave the microwave up there just as a microwave?

Research carefully the downdraft vents. Many folks are very critical of
them. I have no experience with them.

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> "Chris Marksberry" >
> : in rec.food.cooking
>
>>
>>> We chose the Blue Pearl granite
>>> http://www.sensagranite.com/products.php? stone=granite which we
>>> love. The Floresta Verde is gorgeous too but the Blue Pearl is better
>>> suited to the colors we're using. White cabinetry, smoke grey
>>> porcelain flooring and brushed nickle hardware.
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>
>> I have a dumb question... what is porcelain flooring?
>
> As explained to me: Porcelain flooring is ceramic tile made of slightly
> different materials than traditional ceramic. Porcelain is denser than
> ceramic making it much harder and more durable than ceramic tile for
> flooring purposes. IIRC the granite AND the flooring company told us
> that porcelain is actually harder than granite. If you drop something on
> it, be prepared for whatever you drop to break.
>
> It is not as thick as the slate we looked at. We chose the porcelain for
> the flooring and ceramic for a partial wall and backsplash. We're either
> going to do porcelain or marble for the entry hall unless I can find a
> suitable slate for it. I love the feel and look of slate but I have yet
> to find one that I really like.
>
> Michael

Thanks Michael,

I think your final product is going to be lovely and I hope you can post
pictures!

I'm trying to find some type of flooring for our kitchen that has a little
bit of "give" to it. We currently have ceramic tile and while it looks nice
and is easy to care for it's hard on my back when I stand for long periods
of time. I don't like the faux hardwood flooring (Pergo) and real hardwood
just isn't practical for a kitchen. Maybe what I'm looking for doesn't
exist at all.

Chris

On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 19:49:41 -0500, "Chris Marksberry"
> wrote:

>I don't like the faux hardwood flooring (Pergo) and real hardwood
>just isn't practical for a kitchen. Maybe what I'm looking for doesn't
>exist at all.

consider bamboo... not kidding


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I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 01:04:01 GMT, "Michael \"Dog3\"" >
wrote:

>The dining room which adjoins the
>breakfast area off the kitchen will soon be deemed <snort> "The Hearth
>Room".

Why? Does it have a fireplace?


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I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

On Fri 27 Jun 2008 05:49:41p, Chris Marksberry told us...

> I'm trying to find some type of flooring for our kitchen that has a
> little bit of "give" to it. We currently have ceramic tile and while it
> looks nice and is easy to care for it's hard on my back when I stand for
> long periods of time. I don't like the faux hardwood flooring (Pergo)
> and real hardwood just isn't practical for a kitchen. Maybe what I'm
> looking for doesn't exist at all.
>
> Chris
>

Chris, in a previous home we had red oak flooring. It was pre-finished and
epoxy sealed, and was virtually waterproof. Also a nice feel underfoot.

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Gini wrote:

> The Whirlpool Gold Velos has one of the most powerful vents in an
> over-the-range micro unit. It has generally excellent reviews:
> http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_02282123000P
>
>
<faint!> But.. but... did you see the PRICE?!?!
Be still my heart!! The microwave itself only has to nuke some leftovers
or a mug of milk once in a while. It doesn't have to dress'em up and
walk'em to the table. OUCH!
LOL

Goomba wrote:
> Gini wrote:
>
>> The Whirlpool Gold Velos has one of the most powerful vents in an
>> over-the-range micro unit. It has generally excellent reviews:
>> http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_02282123000P
>>
>>
> <faint!> But.. but... did you see the PRICE?!?!
> Be still my heart!! The microwave itself only has to nuke some
> leftovers or a mug of milk once in a while. It doesn't have to
> dress'em up and walk'em to the table. OUCH!
> LOL

Think of it as buying a hood that microwaves?

nancy

"Goomba" wrote
> Gini wrote:
>
>> The Whirlpool Gold Velos has one of the most powerful vents in an
>> over-the-range micro unit. It has generally excellent reviews:
>> http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_02282123000P
>>
>>
> <faint!> But.. but... did you see the PRICE?!?!
> Be still my heart!! The microwave itself only has to nuke some leftovers
> or a mug of milk once in a while. It doesn't have to dress'em up and
> walk'em to the table. OUCH!
> LOL
===
Yeah, it's pricey. However, with the convection feature, it also functions
as a second oven (if that helps :-)

"Gini" > wrote in news:ult9k.30$iU.27@trndny02:

> "Goomba" wrote
>> Gini wrote:
>>
>>> The Whirlpool Gold Velos has one of the most powerful vents in an
>>> over-the-range micro unit. It has generally excellent reviews:
>>> http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_02282123000P
>>>
>>>
>> <faint!> But.. but... did you see the PRICE?!?!
>> Be still my heart!! The microwave itself only has to nuke some
>> leftovers or a mug of milk once in a while. It doesn't have to
>> dress'em up and walk'em to the table. OUCH!
>> LOL
> ===
> Yeah, it's pricey. However, with the convection feature, it also
> functions as a second oven (if that helps :-)
>
>
>

My largish panasonic microwave/convection ran me well over 600 IIRC...It
is a needed piece of equipment. I use it to cook/steam veggies almost
everyday. Plus the turbo defrost feature is quite handy and doesn't pre
cook the defrosting item...Around the holidays I use it's convection
aspect for the needed extra oven. I rarely melt chocolate as I rarely
bake (maybe 5 or 6 times a year) so I don't use my nuker for that...But
upon occassion I will make quickbreads or muffins in the nuker. I guess I
use it instead of a toaster oven as well for the odd 1 serving casserole.

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