Heya folks,

I did it again. And I was just getting ready to back everything
up...I even got a new backup hard drive. But not soon enough, it
seems. My hard drive, or something caused my laptop to die.

So..I lost all recipes. I have been saving tons of them from rfc for
years now..and if you have posted recipes in the past year or so...I
would love to see them again. I can't even begin to remember which
ones I had in my files.

I am hoping to retrieve some of these files...but in the meantime...


Christine

Christine wrote:
> Heya folks,
>
> I did it again. And I was just getting ready to back everything
> up...I even got a new backup hard drive. But not soon enough, it
> seems. My hard drive, or something caused my laptop to die.
>
> So..I lost all recipes. I have been saving tons of them from rfc for
> years now..and if you have posted recipes in the past year or so...I
> would love to see them again. I can't even begin to remember which
> ones I had in my files.
>
> I am hoping to retrieve some of these files...but in the meantime...
>
>
> Christine


I'm very sorry to hear this! However, there's no way I (and probably many
others) can remember all the recipes posted in the past year, either. While
I love my computer, this is why I always write down recipes I've acquired,
whether I've tried them or just want to try them. Index cards are your
friend

Jill

Christine wrote:
> Heya folks,
>
> I did it again. And I was just getting ready to back everything
> up...I even got a new backup hard drive. But not soon enough, it
> seems. My hard drive, or something caused my laptop to die.
>
> So..I lost all recipes. I have been saving tons of them from rfc for
> years now..and if you have posted recipes in the past year or so...I
> would love to see them again. I can't even begin to remember which
> ones I had in my files.
>
> I am hoping to retrieve some of these files...but in the meantime...


Wouldn't it be easier to use google groups to go over the posted recipes
and find the ones you liked than to have them reposted?


--Lia

Christine wrote:
> Heya folks,
>
> I did it again. And I was just getting ready to back everything
> up...I even got a new backup hard drive. But not soon enough, it
> seems. My hard drive, or something caused my laptop to die.
>
> So..I lost all recipes. I have been saving tons of them from rfc for
> years now..and if you have posted recipes in the past year or so...I
> would love to see them again. I can't even begin to remember which
> ones I had in my files.
>
> I am hoping to retrieve some of these files...but in the meantime...
>

In the mean time it's TV dinners?
Couldn't resist.
>
> Christine

--Bryan

On Sat 28 Jun 2008 12:57:38a, Christine told us...

> Heya folks,
>
> I did it again. And I was just getting ready to back everything
> up...I even got a new backup hard drive. But not soon enough, it
> seems. My hard drive, or something caused my laptop to die.
>
> So..I lost all recipes. I have been saving tons of them from rfc for
> years now..and if you have posted recipes in the past year or so...I
> would love to see them again. I can't even begin to remember which
> ones I had in my files.
>
> I am hoping to retrieve some of these files...but in the meantime...
>
>
> Christine

Christine,

I have just e-mailed you a self-extracting zip file of all the posts I have
saved containing recipes. I'm sure that some will be extraneous data that
you will want to delete, but will leave it up to you to cull what you do
want from the files. I hope the compressed file is not too large for you
to download.

I have also e-mailed separately all the recipes that I have in my recipe
software, but in text format.

Please let me know if you have a problem with any of these files.

--
Wayne Boatwright
-------------------------------------------
Saturday, 06(VI)/28(XXVIII)/08(MMVIII)
-------------------------------------------
-------------------------------------------
If Murphy's Law were true, whenever
you tried to take a breath, all the
air would be on the other side of the room.
-------------------------------------------

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
. ..
> Christine wrote:
> > Heya folks,
> >
> > I did it again. And I was just getting ready to back everything
> > up...I even got a new backup hard drive. But not soon enough, it
> > seems. My hard drive, or something caused my laptop to die.
> >
> > So..I lost all recipes. I have been saving tons of them from rfc for
> > years now..and if you have posted recipes in the past year or so...I
> > would love to see them again. I can't even begin to remember which
> > ones I had in my files.
> >
> > I am hoping to retrieve some of these files...but in the meantime...
> >
> >
> > Christine
>
>
> I'm very sorry to hear this! However, there's no way I (and probably many
> others) can remember all the recipes posted in the past year, either.
While
> I love my computer, this is why I always write down recipes I've acquired,
> whether I've tried them or just want to try them. Index cards are your
> friend
>
> Jill

If all else fails, no matter what happened to crash your PC, there is free
software available that can reboot your hard drive and retrieve your files.
It is pretty unlikely, but even if the hard drive physically broke somehow
(it would have made lots of noise beforehand) there are ways to retrieve
data -- did you know they recovered the hard drive in a field someplace
from that space shuttle that burnt up during re-entry and recovered the data
on it?

Easy to find the freeware on Google or indicate if you are interested and I
can give some examples.

pflu >

On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 10:37:49 -0500, "Phluge" >
wrote:
>
>If all else fails, no matter what happened to crash your PC, there is free
>software available that can reboot your hard drive and retrieve your files.
>It is pretty unlikely, but even if the hard drive physically broke somehow
>(it would have made lots of noise beforehand) there are ways to retrieve
>data -- did you know they recovered the hard drive in a field someplace
>from that space shuttle that burnt up during re-entry and recovered the data
>on it?
>
>Easy to find the freeware on Google or indicate if you are interested and I
>can give some examples.
>
Just give some examples... paying for someone to recover data is very
expensive.


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

"Christine" > wrote in message
...
> Heya folks,
>
> I did it again. And I was just getting ready to back everything
> up...I even got a new backup hard drive. But not soon enough, it
> seems. My hard drive, or something caused my laptop to die.
>
> So..I lost all recipes. I have been saving tons of them from rfc for
> years now..and if you have posted recipes in the past year or so...I
> would love to see them again. I can't even begin to remember which
> ones I had in my files.
>
> I am hoping to retrieve some of these files...but in the meantime...
>
>
> Christine

Bummer!

Do a Google advanced group search for the names of the people you think have
expertise.


You'll find it here

http://groups.google.com/advanced_se...e=UTF-8&hl=en&


Good luck.

When was your last back-up?


--
Old Scoundrel

(AKA Dimitri)

On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 02:57:38 -0500, Christine wrote:

> Heya folks,
>
> I did it again. And I was just getting ready to back everything up...I
> even got a new backup hard drive. But not soon enough, it seems. My
> hard drive, or something caused my laptop to die.

Bummer, Chris.... If it's the power supply, CPU or even the mother board,
you may find that the hard drive is still OK, and you may be able to
recover the data from it. As somebody else pointed out, even if it is the
hard drive, there are 'veys und means' of recovering the data from (some)
hard drives these days, so I'll keep my fingers crossed for you.

> So..I lost all recipes. I have been saving tons of them from rfc for
> years now..and if you have posted recipes in the past year or so...I
> would love to see them again. I can't even begin to remember which ones
> I had in my files.
>
> I am hoping to retrieve some of these files...but in the meantime...
>
> Christine

I can't remember which recipes I posted/sent you either <grin>. I'll go
thru my collection and send you the ones I *think* you might like.

--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

Egg tastes better when it's not on your face...

On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 02:57:38 -0500, Christine >
wrote:

>So..I lost all recipes. I have been saving tons of them from rfc for
>years now..and if you have posted recipes in the past year or so...I
>would love to see them again. I can't even begin to remember which
>ones I had in my files.

I told you so! I told you to put them on Mosey.... but noooo you
listened to those boobs who were naysaying about online backup. It
would have been immediate and free - and we wouldn't be having this
conversation right now.

Next time, maybe you'll listen to me.


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 14:01:35 -0500, Janet Wilder
> wrote:


>I'm so sorry. If it helps, when my hard drive died 2 years ago, the
>Geeks at Best Buy were a lot cheaper than other places to retrieve
>stuff. They managed to get most of my pictures, files and recipes. It
>did take quite a few hours.

Thanks. I might take it there, to see what I can retrieve

>
>I use MasterCook 7 and I do a backup of recipes and the files I save
>from Usenet and other places every week onto a separate hard drive. Then
>every couple of months I burn those files to a CD.

Speaking of Mastercook...does anyone know what version will work with
Vista?

I am NOT happy that I have Vista here....LOL

>
>I don't know what I'd do if I lost my recipes. Probably Google a
>margarita recipe and drink a lot. <g>

I hit up the wine last night...LOL

Christine

On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 14:49:17 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>On Sat 28 Jun 2008 12:57:38a, Christine told us...
>
>> Heya folks,
>>
>> I did it again. And I was just getting ready to back everything
>> up...I even got a new backup hard drive. But not soon enough, it
>> seems. My hard drive, or something caused my laptop to die.
>>
>> So..I lost all recipes. I have been saving tons of them from rfc for
>> years now..and if you have posted recipes in the past year or so...I
>> would love to see them again. I can't even begin to remember which
>> ones I had in my files.
>>
>> I am hoping to retrieve some of these files...but in the meantime...
>>
>>
>> Christine
>
>Christine,
>
>I have just e-mailed you a self-extracting zip file of all the posts I have
>saved containing recipes. I'm sure that some will be extraneous data that
>you will want to delete, but will leave it up to you to cull what you do
>want from the files. I hope the compressed file is not too large for you
>to download.
>
>I have also e-mailed separately all the recipes that I have in my recipe
>software, but in text format.
>
>Please let me know if you have a problem with any of these files.

jesus, wayne, you do go the extra mile, don't you? that's very nice
of you to do.

your pal,
blake

Christine wrote:
> Heya folks,
>
> I did it again. And I was just getting ready to back everything
> up...I even got a new backup hard drive. But not soon enough, it
> seems. My hard drive, or something caused my laptop to die.
>
> So..I lost all recipes. I have been saving tons of them from rfc for
> years now..and if you have posted recipes in the past year or so...I
> would love to see them again. I can't even begin to remember which
> ones I had in my files.
>
> I am hoping to retrieve some of these files...but in the meantime...
>
>
> Christine

I'm so sorry. If it helps, when my hard drive died 2 years ago, the
Geeks at Best Buy were a lot cheaper than other places to retrieve
stuff. They managed to get most of my pictures, files and recipes. It
did take quite a few hours.

I use MasterCook 7 and I do a backup of recipes and the files I save
from Usenet and other places every week onto a separate hard drive. Then
every couple of months I burn those files to a CD.

I don't know what I'd do if I lost my recipes. Probably Google a
margarita recipe and drink a lot. <g>

--
Janet Wilder
Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
Good Friends. Good Life

Christine Dabney wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 14:01:35 -0500, Janet Wilder
> > wrote:
>
>
>> I'm so sorry. If it helps, when my hard drive died 2 years ago, the
>> Geeks at Best Buy were a lot cheaper than other places to retrieve
>> stuff. They managed to get most of my pictures, files and recipes. It
>> did take quite a few hours.
>
> Thanks. I might take it there, to see what I can retrieve
>
>>
>> I use MasterCook 7 and I do a backup of recipes and the files I save
>> from Usenet and other places every week onto a separate hard drive.
>> Then every couple of months I burn those files to a CD.
>
> Speaking of Mastercook...does anyone know what version will work with
> Vista?
>
> I am NOT happy that I have Vista here....LOL
>
>>
>> I don't know what I'd do if I lost my recipes. Probably Google a
>> margarita recipe and drink a lot. <g>
>
> I hit up the wine last night...LOL
>
> Christine

I always back up my recipes to a separate hard drive and also every 3 months
or so burn them to CD. I keep copies of everything.

There are only 2 kinds of hard drives; one that has crashed and one that
hasn't crashed, yet.

kili

On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 20:06:35 GMT, "Michael \"Dog3\"" >
wrote:

>
>I see that Wayne has emailed you a bunch of stuff. I'm going to try to
>find a university server that archives rec.food.cooking and I'll email it
>to you. It's usually easier sorting through it than Google. Last server I
>know of was the Carnegie Mellon Science Department but I haven't checked
>there in a few years. I'll email you a link if I find one.
>
>Michael

Actually, I haven't gotten anything from Wayne...I don't know where he
sent it.

My address isn't munged or anything

Christine

"Christine Dabney" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 14:01:35 -0500, Janet Wilder
> > wrote:
>
>
>>I'm so sorry. If it helps, when my hard drive died 2 years ago, the
>>Geeks at Best Buy were a lot cheaper than other places to retrieve
>>stuff. They managed to get most of my pictures, files and recipes. It
>>did take quite a few hours.
>
> Thanks. I might take it there, to see what I can retrieve
>
>>
>>I use MasterCook 7 and I do a backup of recipes and the files I save
>>from Usenet and other places every week onto a separate hard drive. Then
>>every couple of months I burn those files to a CD.
>
> Speaking of Mastercook...does anyone know what version will work with
> Vista?

Version 9 as I understand it will work with Vista, but you have to trick it
into working. I'm still using XP. I found that out when I was on a list
for Mastercook.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MastercookDiscussion/
>
> I am NOT happy that I have Vista here....LOL
>
>>
>>I don't know what I'd do if I lost my recipes. Probably Google a
>>margarita recipe and drink a lot. <g>
>
> I hit up the wine last night...LOL

Can't say as I blame you <g>
>
> Christine

Chris or Christine

Christine Dabney wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 14:01:35 -0500, Janet Wilder
> > wrote:
>
>
>> I'm so sorry. If it helps, when my hard drive died 2 years ago, the
>> Geeks at Best Buy were a lot cheaper than other places to retrieve
>> stuff. They managed to get most of my pictures, files and recipes. It
>> did take quite a few hours.
>
> Thanks. I might take it there, to see what I can retrieve
>
>> I use MasterCook 7 and I do a backup of recipes and the files I save
>>from Usenet and other places every week onto a separate hard drive. Then
>> every couple of months I burn those files to a CD.
>
> Speaking of Mastercook...does anyone know what version will work with
> Vista?

The newest one doesn't. It's why I stopped using Mastercook and tried
BigOven. I'm going to end up using some linux thing from now on, though.

If anyone wants my copy of MasterCook 9 (and I think I also have version
7), drop me an email with your snailmail address and I'll send it to the
first person who asks for it.

Serene
--
"I think I have an umami receptor that has developed sentience." -- Stef

Phluge wrote:

>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> . ..
>> Christine wrote:
>> > Heya folks,
>> >
>> > I did it again. And I was just getting ready to back everything
>> > up...I even got a new backup hard drive. But not soon enough, it
>> > seems. My hard drive, or something caused my laptop to die.
>> >
>> > So..I lost all recipes. I have been saving tons of them from rfc for
>> > years now..and if you have posted recipes in the past year or so...I
>> > would love to see them again. I can't even begin to remember which
>> > ones I had in my files.
>> >
>> > I am hoping to retrieve some of these files...but in the meantime...
>> >
>> >
>> > Christine
>>
>>
>> I'm very sorry to hear this! However, there's no way I (and probably many
>> others) can remember all the recipes posted in the past year, either.
> While
>> I love my computer, this is why I always write down recipes I've acquired,
>> whether I've tried them or just want to try them. Index cards are your
>> friend
>>
>> Jill
>
> If all else fails, no matter what happened to crash your PC, there is free
> software available that can reboot your hard drive and retrieve your files.
> It is pretty unlikely, but even if the hard drive physically broke somehow
> (it would have made lots of noise beforehand)

It did.


--
Blinky
Killing all posts from Google Groups
The Usenet Improvement Project --> http://improve-usenet.org
Found: a free GG-blocking news *feed* --> http://usenet4all.se

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
. ..
> Christine wrote:
>> Heya folks,
>>
>> I did it again. And I was just getting ready to back everything
>> up...I even got a new backup hard drive. But not soon enough, it
>> seems. My hard drive, or something caused my laptop to die.
>>
>> So..I lost all recipes. I have been saving tons of them from rfc for
>> years now..and if you have posted recipes in the past year or so...I
>> would love to see them again. I can't even begin to remember which
>> ones I had in my files.
>>
>> I am hoping to retrieve some of these files...but in the meantime...
>>
>>
>> Christine
>

I back it all up, along with other necessary stuff on the first of the
month-every month w/o fail-stock transactions, cooking database, bookmarks,
etc.
Might want to get in the habit.

Kswck wrote:

> I back it all up, along with other necessary stuff on the first of the
> month-every month w/o fail-stock transactions, cooking database, bookmarks,
> etc.
> Might want to get in the habit.
>
>
You back it up on to what?
I've taken to keeping back ups on little thumb drives. Handy and cheap
(I have rec'd a number of them free)
I haven't decided what the perfect back up medium is because I hear CDs
won't last forever, the thumb drive can be too small or lost. I used to
use online back up services but stopped when I discovered thumb drives.
Anything to save a buck, eh? Yet online back up saved me MANY times
with financial records. I've stopped using Quicken and just use my banks
websites directly.

Dimitri wrote:
>
> Bummer!

Hasn't done a backup in years? This is unplanned
but predictable result.

> Do a Google advanced group search for the names
> of the people you think have expertise.

With RECIPE in the subject line.

On Sat 28 Jun 2008 11:44:47a, blake murphy told us...

> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 14:49:17 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> > wrote:
>
>>On Sat 28 Jun 2008 12:57:38a, Christine told us...
>>
>>> Heya folks,
>>>
>>> I did it again. And I was just getting ready to back everything
>>> up...I even got a new backup hard drive. But not soon enough, it
>>> seems. My hard drive, or something caused my laptop to die.
>>>
>>> So..I lost all recipes. I have been saving tons of them from rfc for
>>> years now..and if you have posted recipes in the past year or so...I
>>> would love to see them again. I can't even begin to remember which
>>> ones I had in my files.
>>>
>>> I am hoping to retrieve some of these files...but in the meantime...
>>>
>>>
>>> Christine
>>
>>Christine,
>>
>>I have just e-mailed you a self-extracting zip file of all the posts I
>>have saved containing recipes. I'm sure that some will be extraneous
>>data that you will want to delete, but will leave it up to you to cull
>>what you do want from the files. I hope the compressed file is not too
>>large for you to download.
>>
>>I have also e-mailed separately all the recipes that I have in my recipe
>>software, but in text format.
>>
>>Please let me know if you have a problem with any of these files.
>
> jesus, wayne, you do go the extra mile, don't you? that's very nice
> of you to do.
>
> your pal,
> blake
>

Blake, I would do this for anyone here I care about. I would do it for
you.

The thought of losing all the recipes I had saved would really put in in a
funk.

--
Wayne Boatwright
-------------------------------------------
Saturday, 06(VI)/28(XXVIII)/08(MMVIII)
-------------------------------------------
-------------------------------------------
The world is proof that God is a committee.
-------------------------------------------

>Christine, I had to re-send about an hour ago. I had miskeyed your addy.
>Please let me know if you don't receive sometime later this afternoon. I
>will try it again. It is not coming from my wayneboatwright gmail address,
>as the attachment was too big.
>
>Do please let me know.

I just got them!!

Thanks!!

Christine

On Sat 28 Jun 2008 01:30:00p, Goomba told us...

> Kswck wrote:
>
>> I back it all up, along with other necessary stuff on the first of the
>> month-every month w/o fail-stock transactions, cooking database,
>> bookmarks, etc. Might want to get in the habit.
>>
>>
> You back it up on to what?
> I've taken to keeping back ups on little thumb drives. Handy and cheap
> (I have rec'd a number of them free)
> I haven't decided what the perfect back up medium is because I hear CDs
> won't last forever, the thumb drive can be too small or lost. I used to
> use online back up services but stopped when I discovered thumb drives.
> Anything to save a buck, eh? Yet online back up saved me MANY times
> with financial records. I've stopped using Quicken and just use my banks
> websites directly.
>

I have a duplicate internal hard drive in my PC. Once a month I use a
program to "clone" an exact copy of my primary drive. This makes them
completely swappable, and I'm back in business in 5 minutes if the primary
drive crashes. I've lost nothing except what I might have done in that
month. If I'm doing more critical things, I run the program to clone the
drive more often.

--
Wayne Boatwright
-------------------------------------------
Saturday, 06(VI)/28(XXVIII)/08(MMVIII)
-------------------------------------------
-------------------------------------------
Error: Keyboard not attached. Press F1
to continue.
-------------------------------------------

On Sat 28 Jun 2008 11:07:20a, Christine Dabney told us...

> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 14:01:35 -0500, Janet Wilder
> > wrote:
>
>
>>I'm so sorry. If it helps, when my hard drive died 2 years ago, the
>>Geeks at Best Buy were a lot cheaper than other places to retrieve
>>stuff. They managed to get most of my pictures, files and recipes. It
>>did take quite a few hours.
>
> Thanks. I might take it there, to see what I can retrieve
>
>>
>>I use MasterCook 7 and I do a backup of recipes and the files I save
>>from Usenet and other places every week onto a separate hard drive. Then
>>every couple of months I burn those files to a CD.
>
> Speaking of Mastercook...does anyone know what version will work with
> Vista?

I don't have Vista, but I have Mastercook 9, and I know that it is
compatible with Vista.

> I am NOT happy that I have Vista here....LOL
>
>>
>>I don't know what I'd do if I lost my recipes. Probably Google a
>>margarita recipe and drink a lot. <g>
>
> I hit up the wine last night...LOL
>
> Christine
>



--
Wayne Boatwright
-------------------------------------------
Saturday, 06(VI)/28(XXVIII)/08(MMVIII)
-------------------------------------------
-------------------------------------------
Military intelligence is a
contradiction in terms. (Groucho Marx)
-------------------------------------------

On Sat 28 Jun 2008 12:16:38p, Christine Dabney told us...

> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 20:06:35 GMT, "Michael \"Dog3\"" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>I see that Wayne has emailed you a bunch of stuff. I'm going to try to
>>find a university server that archives rec.food.cooking and I'll email
>>it to you. It's usually easier sorting through it than Google. Last
>>server I know of was the Carnegie Mellon Science Department but I
>>haven't checked there in a few years. I'll email you a link if I find
>>one.
>>
>>Michael
>
> Actually, I haven't gotten anything from Wayne...I don't know where he
> sent it.
>
> My address isn't munged or anything
>
> Christine
>

Christine, I had to re-send about an hour ago. I had miskeyed your addy.
Please let me know if you don't receive sometime later this afternoon. I
will try it again. It is not coming from my wayneboatwright gmail address,
as the attachment was too big.

Do please let me know.

--
Wayne Boatwright
-------------------------------------------
Saturday, 06(VI)/28(XXVIII)/08(MMVIII)
-------------------------------------------
-------------------------------------------
Military intelligence is a
contradiction in terms. (Groucho Marx)
-------------------------------------------

Wayne Boatwright > wrote:

>On Sat 28 Jun 2008 01:30:00p, Goomba told us...

>> You back it up on to what?
>> I've taken to keeping back ups on little thumb drives. Handy and cheap
>> (I have rec'd a number of them free)
>> I haven't decided what the perfect back up medium is because I hear CDs
>> won't last forever, the thumb drive can be too small or lost. I used to
>> use online back up services but stopped when I discovered thumb drives.
>> Anything to save a buck, eh? Yet online back up saved me MANY times
>> with financial records. I've stopped using Quicken and just use my banks
>> websites directly.

>I have a duplicate internal hard drive in my PC. Once a month I use a
>program to "clone" an exact copy of my primary drive. This makes them
>completely swappable, and I'm back in business in 5 minutes if the primary
>drive crashes. I've lost nothing except what I might have done in that
>month. If I'm doing more critical things, I run the program to clone the
>drive more often.

One gap with this method is it's not resistant to theft of
the PC, or its destruction by flood or fire.

I am not so thorough with backups myself but I try to keep
critical data on two different PC's plus a filesystem at my
ISP (which itself does tape backups).

Steve

Wayne Boatwright > wrote in
6.120:

> On Sat 28 Jun 2008 01:30:00p, Goomba told us...
>
>> Kswck wrote:
>>
>>> I back it all up, along with other necessary stuff on the first of
>>> the month-every month w/o fail-stock transactions, cooking database,
>>> bookmarks, etc. Might want to get in the habit.
>>>
>>>
>> You back it up on to what?


I have an external 300Gb HD sitting on my desk that I use for my home
computer.

I also have one for the office.


>> I've taken to keeping back ups on little thumb drives. Handy and
>> cheap (I have rec'd a number of them free)
>> I haven't decided what the perfect back up medium is because I hear
>> CDs won't last forever, the thumb drive can be too small or lost. I
>> used to use online back up services but stopped when I discovered
>> thumb drives. Anything to save a buck, eh? Yet online back up saved
>> me MANY times with financial records. I've stopped using Quicken and
>> just use my banks websites directly.
>>
>
> I have a duplicate internal hard drive in my PC. Once a month I use a
> program to "clone" an exact copy of my primary drive. This makes them
> completely swappable, and I'm back in business in 5 minutes if the
> primary drive crashes. I've lost nothing except what I might have
> done in that month. If I'm doing more critical things, I run the
> program to clone the drive more often.
>


Which program is that, Wayne?



--
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Brisbane
Australia


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Kill You. These days, I do not have to visit exotic overseas countries
as my Countries Enemies are seen wallowing around our seats of
government, they guzzle and cavort at the Public trough so deeply they
make Caligula and Nero look like Church choir boys."


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Goomba wrote:

> I've taken to keeping back ups on little thumb drives. Handy and cheap
> (I have rec'd a number of them free)
> I haven't decided what the perfect back up medium is because I hear
> CDs won't last forever, the thumb drive can be too small or lost. I
> used to use online back up services but stopped when I discovered
> thumb drives. Anything to save a buck, eh?

I picked up a thumb drive not that long ago after all kinds of
teeth gnashing over what I should use. Put all my pictures (a
lot) and the few financial files and other documents I'd be sorry
to lose on one little drive. Stuck it in my little fire safe.

Don't think I wasn't thrilled to death when I lost my pc last month.
I didn't lose anything important to me, and it cost next to nothing.

nancy

On Sat 28 Jun 2008 03:06:38p, Steve Pope told us...

> Wayne Boatwright > wrote:
>
>>On Sat 28 Jun 2008 01:30:00p, Goomba told us...
>
>>> You back it up on to what?
>>> I've taken to keeping back ups on little thumb drives. Handy and cheap
>>> (I have rec'd a number of them free)
>>> I haven't decided what the perfect back up medium is because I hear CDs
>>> won't last forever, the thumb drive can be too small or lost. I used to
>>> use online back up services but stopped when I discovered thumb drives.
>>> Anything to save a buck, eh? Yet online back up saved me MANY times
>>> with financial records. I've stopped using Quicken and just use my banks
>>> websites directly.
>
>>I have a duplicate internal hard drive in my PC. Once a month I use a
>>program to "clone" an exact copy of my primary drive. This makes them
>>completely swappable, and I'm back in business in 5 minutes if the primary
>>drive crashes. I've lost nothing except what I might have done in that
>>month. If I'm doing more critical things, I run the program to clone the
>>drive more often.
>
> One gap with this method is it's not resistant to theft of
> the PC, or its destruction by flood or fire.

Yes, there is that. I don't worry too much about theft, as we have a rather
sophisticated security system, in fact, the PC is wired into it. If its
destruction by flood or fire, then I have a lot more to worry about that the
computer. :-)

> I am not so thorough with backups myself but I try to keep
> critical data on two different PC's plus a filesystem at my
> ISP (which itself does tape backups).

I failed to say that I keep my laptop synced with my desktop PC, so in fact I
have yet another copy of everything. I sync them at least weekly. My laptop
is usually *with* me, whether it be at home or at work.

What I don't particularly trust, regardless of their security and privacy
claims, is keeping data on an ISP server.

> Steve
>



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be able to run away damn fast.
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On Sat 28 Jun 2008 03:29:28p, PeterLucas told us...

> Wayne Boatwright > wrote in
> 6.120:
>
>> On Sat 28 Jun 2008 01:30:00p, Goomba told us...
>>
>>> Kswck wrote:
>>>
>>>> I back it all up, along with other necessary stuff on the first of
>>>> the month-every month w/o fail-stock transactions, cooking database,
>>>> bookmarks, etc. Might want to get in the habit.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> You back it up on to what?
>
>
> I have an external 300Gb HD sitting on my desk that I use for my home
> computer.
>
> I also have one for the office.
>
>
>>> I've taken to keeping back ups on little thumb drives. Handy and
>>> cheap (I have rec'd a number of them free)
>>> I haven't decided what the perfect back up medium is because I hear
>>> CDs won't last forever, the thumb drive can be too small or lost. I
>>> used to use online back up services but stopped when I discovered
>>> thumb drives. Anything to save a buck, eh? Yet online back up saved
>>> me MANY times with financial records. I've stopped using Quicken and
>>> just use my banks websites directly.
>>>
>>
>> I have a duplicate internal hard drive in my PC. Once a month I use a
>> program to "clone" an exact copy of my primary drive. This makes them
>> completely swappable, and I'm back in business in 5 minutes if the
>> primary drive crashes. I've lost nothing except what I might have
>> done in that month. If I'm doing more critical things, I run the
>> program to clone the drive more often.
>>
>
>
> Which program is that, Wayne?

It's Seagate DiskWizard, downloadable from the Seagate/Maxtor website.



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On Sat 28 Jun 2008 02:23:32p, Christine Dabney told us...

>
>>Christine, I had to re-send about an hour ago. I had miskeyed your addy.
>> Please let me know if you don't receive sometime later this afternoon.
>>I will try it again. It is not coming from my wayneboatwright gmail
>>address, as the attachment was too big.
>>
>>Do please let me know.
>
> I just got them!!
>
> Thanks!!
>
> Christine

You're very welcome, Christine. I hope they are useful for you.

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sf wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 10:37:49 -0500, "Phluge" >
> wrote:
>> If all else fails, no matter what happened to crash your PC, there is free
>> software available that can reboot your hard drive and retrieve your files.
>> It is pretty unlikely, but even if the hard drive physically broke somehow
>> (it would have made lots of noise beforehand) there are ways to retrieve
>> data -- did you know they recovered the hard drive in a field someplace
>>from that space shuttle that burnt up during re-entry and recovered the data
>> on it?
>>
>> Easy to find the freeware on Google or indicate if you are interested and I
>> can give some examples.
>>
> Just give some examples... paying for someone to recover data is very
> expensive.
>
>


How about download and burn a "Ubuntu" CD (a free small Linux client for
PC's), and then boot the laptop from that. The HDD may still be
readable but just not bootable.

I'm not sure if it can read NTFS file systems or not. I can check on
that later tonight.

Bob

Christine Dabney wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 14:01:35 -0500, Janet Wilder
> > wrote:
>
>
>> I'm so sorry. If it helps, when my hard drive died 2 years ago, the
>> Geeks at Best Buy were a lot cheaper than other places to retrieve
>> stuff. They managed to get most of my pictures, files and recipes. It
>> did take quite a few hours.
>
> Thanks. I might take it there, to see what I can retrieve
>
>> I use MasterCook 7 and I do a backup of recipes and the files I save
>>from Usenet and other places every week onto a separate hard drive. Then
>> every couple of months I burn those files to a CD.
>
> Speaking of Mastercook...does anyone know what version will work with
> Vista?

I think version 9 will, but you have to disable the administrator
thingie. DO NOT purchase the downloadable one. Buy the Disk. That's what
they say on the Mastercook Discussion Yahoo Forum. Very good info there
on how to use the program. (I think)
>
> I am NOT happy that I have Vista here....LOL
>
>> I don't know what I'd do if I lost my recipes. Probably Google a
>> margarita recipe and drink a lot. <g>
>
> I hit up the wine last night...LOL
>
> Christine


--
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Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
Good Friends. Good Life

Serene Vannoy wrote:
> Christine Dabney wrote:
>> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 14:01:35 -0500, Janet Wilder
>> > wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I'm so sorry. If it helps, when my hard drive died 2 years ago, the
>>> Geeks at Best Buy were a lot cheaper than other places to retrieve
>>> stuff. They managed to get most of my pictures, files and recipes. It
>>> did take quite a few hours.
>>
>> Thanks. I might take it there, to see what I can retrieve
>>
>>> I use MasterCook 7 and I do a backup of recipes and the files I save
>>> from Usenet and other places every week onto a separate hard drive.
>>> Then every couple of months I burn those files to a CD.
>>
>> Speaking of Mastercook...does anyone know what version will work with
>> Vista?
>
> The newest one doesn't. It's why I stopped using Mastercook and tried
> BigOven. I'm going to end up using some linux thing from now on, though.

I did a trial of Big Oven. After using MasterCook since version 2
(1995), Big Oven could not compare.

There are plenty of people using Version 9 and even older versions on
Vista. I'm on the MastercookDiscussion Yahoo group. If you want to go
back to Mastercook, join the yahoo group and look in the files for how
to use it with Vista.

> If anyone wants my copy of MasterCook 9 (and I think I also have version
> 7), drop me an email with your snailmail address and I'll send it to the
> first person who asks for it.
>
> Serene

Oh Serene, keep it. just disable the administrator thingie like they
tell you to in the Yahoo group.

Janet, who can't find anything to replace Master Cook.
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Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
Good Friends. Good Life

Goomba wrote:
> Kswck wrote:
>
>> I back it all up, along with other necessary stuff on the first of the
>> month-every month w/o fail-stock transactions, cooking database,
>> bookmarks, etc.
>> Might want to get in the habit.
>>
> You back it up on to what?
> I've taken to keeping back ups on little thumb drives. Handy and cheap
> (I have rec'd a number of them free)
> I haven't decided what the perfect back up medium is because I hear CDs
> won't last forever, the thumb drive can be too small or lost. I used to
> use online back up services but stopped when I discovered thumb drives.
> Anything to save a buck, eh? Yet online back up saved me MANY times
> with financial records. I've stopped using Quicken and just use my banks
> websites directly.

I have an "E-Book" It's an extra hard drive that looks like a little
book and sits on the desk. It has gigabytes of storage and was very
reasonably priced. Plugs into a USB port and loads itself. It's the "e"
drive. I save stuff to it all the time. Really easy.

--
Janet Wilder
Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
Good Friends. Good Life

On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 13:07:20 -0500, Christine Dabney
> wrote:

>On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 14:01:35 -0500, Janet Wilder
> wrote:
>
>
>>I'm so sorry. If it helps, when my hard drive died 2 years ago, the
>>Geeks at Best Buy were a lot cheaper than other places to retrieve
>>stuff. They managed to get most of my pictures, files and recipes. It
>>did take quite a few hours.
>
>Thanks. I might take it there, to see what I can retrieve
>
>>
>>I use MasterCook 7 and I do a backup of recipes and the files I save
>>from Usenet and other places every week onto a separate hard drive. Then
>>every couple of months I burn those files to a CD.
>
>Speaking of Mastercook...does anyone know what version will work with
>Vista?

Christine, I'm running MasterCook 9 with Vista. works for me.


>
>I am NOT happy that I have Vista here....LOL

Oh, Vista is OK. Just remember to get the upgrades automatically when
they are issued. There are a lot of them.

Ron Kelley

Wayne Boatwright > wrote:

>On Sat 28 Jun 2008 03:06:38p, Steve Pope told us...

>> One gap with this method is it's not resistant to theft of

>
>Yes, there is that. I don't worry too much about theft, as we have a rather
>sophisticated security system, in fact, the PC is wired into it. If its
>destruction by flood or fire, then I have a lot more to worry about that the
>computer. :-)

>> I am not so thorough with backups myself but I try to keep
>> critical data on two different PC's plus a filesystem at my
>> ISP (which itself does tape backups).
>
>I failed to say that I keep my laptop synced with my desktop PC, so in fact I
>have yet another copy of everything.

Good plan.

>What I don't particularly trust, regardless of their security and privacy
>claims, is keeping data on an ISP server.

I have an ISP I can trust; a small ISP that caters to engineering
users and has been around since the dawn of the Internet.

I trust that they're doing the tape backups by some reasonable
procedure, and could probably retrieve something from tape;
in the meantime they have never lost data from their servers,
so I figure that's as secure as me archiving it to any
device I might have.

I don't really worry about privacy or snooping or whatever.

Steve

Wayne Boatwright > wrote in
6.120:


>>>>
>>>
>>> I have a duplicate internal hard drive in my PC. Once a month I use
a
>>> program to "clone" an exact copy of my primary drive. This makes
them
>>> completely swappable, and I'm back in business in 5 minutes if the
>>> primary drive crashes. I've lost nothing except what I might have
>>> done in that month. If I'm doing more critical things, I run the
>>> program to clone the drive more often.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Which program is that, Wayne?
>
> It's Seagate DiskWizard, downloadable from the Seagate/Maxtor website.
>


Thanks for that Wayne. Started to look up a few things about it and saw
another recommended program, called Acronis TrueImage, so started to
download that as well. *Then* I read in a forum that Acronis is actually
a copy of Disk Wizard!!

http://keznews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=70498


So now I'll have to check if my HDD, and portable HDD, are compatable
units to use the Disk Wizard.


--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia


If we are not meant to eat animals,
why are they made of meat?

In article >,
Goomba > wrote:

> Kswck wrote:
>
> > I back it all up, along with other necessary stuff on the first of the
> > month-every month w/o fail-stock transactions, cooking database, bookmarks,
> > etc.
> > Might want to get in the habit.
> >
> >
> You back it up on to what?

I use a 500GB external Fantom drive.

I back up my Home folder nightly and then about once a month throw out
the old backups and start over so the drive doesn't fill up. I back up
some other stuff once a week. All of these backups happen in the wee
hours of the morning.

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