sf > wrote:

>Sorry, not interested. Never did like enameled pots and pans.

Whereas I would buy enamled pots from Cookin' on Divisadero
back in my starving-student days before I could afford
any Le Creusets.

Still have some of those (although a few wore out, after
20 or so years).

Steve

cybercat > wrote:

>"Steve Pope" > wrote in message

>> Right. If heaviness is an issue than Le Creuset (or plain cast iron,
>> or the heavier Calphalon/stainless) are not for you.

>So you don't mind heavy pots and pans? It's not that I am not strong enough
>to heave them around, I just don't *want* to.

I'm pretty happy with units in the weight range of a Le Creuset,
yeah. I like their ability to go from stovetop to oven,
and the even-ness of heat in something that heavy.

I suppose hefting htme helps the muscle tone slightly too.

S.

"Steve Pope" > wrote :
> Whereas I would buy enamled pots from Cookin' on Divisadero
> back in my starving-student days before I could afford
> any Le Creusets.


My Fire Engine Red 9-quart stock pot is on the stove, a couple of
hours into simmering chicken stock. It's from Target, made in Spain.
It is heavy but I love it.

"Steve Pope" > wrote in message
...
> Nancy Young > wrote:
>
>>Oh, it is beautiful. They have a blue color out now that I'm
>>irrisistably drawn to. I saw it at Sur la Table.
>
> The almost aquamarine color? I saw that too.
>
> Most of ours (all but one) are the traditional straight blue.
> One is flaming orange.
>

I think if the pot is beautiful enough it can be heavy and I will not mind.

On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 11:47:15 -0400, "cybercat" >
wrote:

>It's a light scratch, I made quesadillas and (duhhh) cut them with as pizza
>cutter in the pan. I must have been thinking, "old pan."

I had to go retrieve your post just to tell you what an idiot you are.

Even using a pizza cutter in an old pan is dumb. I wouldn't even do
that in a cast or S/S pan.

Again,,, you're an idiot.

Lou

"Cheryl" > wrote in message
>>
> Nice, and I like your stovetop! On another note, I really miss gas
> cooking. I used to do cake decorating and since buying my house I have
> almost stopped because I just can't bake in an electric oven. Anyone have
> luck doing this? Maybe my oven is just too old and not working properly.
> Took long enough to get used to a heat pump and electric heat.
>

Consider propane. We had ours put in 20+ years ago as we hated the electric
range. They come once a year and fill the tanks.

Cheryl wrote:
> "Goomba" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> I actually do leave my large blue Dutch oven on the back burner out of the
>> way because not only is it gorgeous (and cheers me to see it) but it saves
>> me brute strength needed to haul it around. I move it out of the way when
>> necessary but otherwise it sit.
>> http://i25.tinypic.com/2hphf61.jpg
>>
> Nice, and I like your stovetop! On another note, I really miss gas cooking.
> I used to do cake decorating and since buying my house I have almost stopped
> because I just can't bake in an electric oven. Anyone have luck doing this?
> Maybe my oven is just too old and not working properly. Took long enough to
> get used to a heat pump and electric heat.
>
>
I hate the electric range, but I have to say that the electric oven is a
lot better than any gas oven I've ever had. I think the temperature is
more stable.

My daughter, the Princess, just redid her kitchen and she got a 6 burner
gas range and a double electric oven. Electric ovens seem to be the trend.

--
Janet Wilder
Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
Good Friends. Good Life

cybercat wrote:
> "Steve Pope" > wrote in message
> ...
>> cybercat > wrote:
>>
>>> Cast iron is too heavy. This is why I rarely use my Calphalon pans.
>>> As I said, it is just a scratch AND I meant that I am relieved. The
>>> perfection of these new pans were wearing on me.
>> Right. If heaviness is an issue than Le Creuset (or plain cast iron,
>> or the heavier Calphalon/stainless) are not for you.
>>
>
> So you don't mind heavy pots and pans? It's not that I am not strong enough
> to heave them around, I just don't *want* to.
>
>
I go to the gym so I can lift my Calphalon stainless :-)

--
Janet Wilder
Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
Good Friends. Good Life

Steve Pope wrote:
> sf > wrote:
>
>> Sorry, not interested. Never did like enameled pots and pans.
>
> Whereas I would buy enamled pots from Cookin' on Divisadero
> back in my starving-student days before I could afford
> any Le Creusets.
>
> Still have some of those (although a few wore out, after
> 20 or so years).
>

I have a white enamel stock pot that belonged to my late grandmother.
She died before I was born and I am named for her. I would not dream of
making matzo balls in any other pot. I don't use it for anything else.

That pot, when new, probably cost her $1. I know it is definitely pre WW2.


--
Janet Wilder
Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
Good Friends. Good Life

On Sat 28 Jun 2008 12:14:50p, Nancy Young told us...

> Steve Pope wrote:
>> sf > wrote:
>
>>> Why? I have one Le Creuset and rarely use it. I don't believe in
>>> buying decorative cookware when functional cookware is less expensive
>>> and works just as well.
>>
>> Wow. We use our Le Creusets *all the time*. I've heard various
>> opinions about them before, but never "decorative" until now.
>> We have five of them. They probably comprise 80% of what is used,
>> stovetop and oven. (Not counting the teakettle.)
>
> Was I supposed to leave my Le Creuset out for a decoration?
> I didn't know. I keep it in a cabinet and only take it out to cook.
>
> nancy
>

Well, Nancy, despite their utility, they are really very decorative. I
have umpteen pieces of Le Creuset, and the largest pieces (mostly the
ovens) I keep on a rack like this. It takes very little floor space, and
as heavy as the pieces are, I don't want them dangling from a hanging rack.

http://tinyurl.com/6lm2jm

--
Wayne Boatwright
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On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 04:08:46 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:
>
>Well, Nancy, despite their utility, they are really very decorative. I
>have umpteen pieces of Le Creuset, and the largest pieces (mostly the
>ovens) I keep on a rack like this. It takes very little floor space, and
>as heavy as the pieces are, I don't want them dangling from a hanging rack.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/6lm2jm

You spent too much money on pots and then too much money on a place to
put them. Maybe you got them inexpensively due to your previous work,
but most people spend real money (and a lot of it) on that stuff. I
simply can't justify the cost.


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

On Sat 28 Jun 2008 10:11:25p, sf told us...

> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 04:08:46 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> > wrote:
>>
>>Well, Nancy, despite their utility, they are really very decorative. I
>>have umpteen pieces of Le Creuset, and the largest pieces (mostly the
>>ovens) I keep on a rack like this. It takes very little floor space, and
>>as heavy as the pieces are, I don't want them dangling from a hanging
rack.
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/6lm2jm
>
> You spent too much money on pots and then too much money on a place to
> put them. Maybe you got them inexpensively due to your previous work,
> but most people spend real money (and a lot of it) on that stuff. I
> simply can't justify the cost.

LOL! Yes I got them *very* inexpensively back in 1973 through my previous
work. I spent around $200 on what would be in today's dollar at least
$1200. I agree that the pot stand was expensive, but it was the only
practical answer for storing the larger pieces in our present kitchen.
Actually, many ceiling hung pot racks are far more expensive. My cabinets
are already comfortably full without over-crowding, and I also like to
display my Le Creuset and have them handy for use. I'm certainly not
advocating that everyone do this.

--
Wayne Boatwright
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Saturday, 06(VI)/28(XXVIII)/08(MMVIII)
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Never try to out stubborn a cat.
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sf > wrote:

>On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 04:08:46 GMT, Wayne Boatwright

>>Well, Nancy, despite their utility, they are really very decorative. I
>>have umpteen pieces of Le Creuset, and the largest pieces (mostly the
>>ovens) I keep on a rack like this. It takes very little floor space, and
>>as heavy as the pieces are, I don't want them dangling from a hanging rack.

>> http://tinyurl.com/6lm2jm

>You spent too much money on pots and then too much money on a place to
>put them. Maybe you got them inexpensively due to your previous work,
>but most people spend real money (and a lot of it) on that stuff. I
>simply can't justify the cost.

How much is too much to spend on pots? I don't think all the
pots in my kitchen cost me $500.

We are not extravagent kitchen spenders, but I'd hate to
have pots and pans I didn't like to use -- it's just too
basic and everyday a thing.

Steve

"Janet Wilder" > wrote in message
...
> cybercat wrote:
>> "Steve Pope" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> cybercat > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Cast iron is too heavy. This is why I rarely use my Calphalon pans.
>>>> As I said, it is just a scratch AND I meant that I am relieved. The
>>>> perfection of these new pans were wearing on me.
>>> Right. If heaviness is an issue than Le Creuset (or plain cast iron,
>>> or the heavier Calphalon/stainless) are not for you.
>>>
>>
>> So you don't mind heavy pots and pans? It's not that I am not strong
>> enough to heave them around, I just don't *want* to.
> I go to the gym so I can lift my Calphalon stainless :-)
>

hahaha!

Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Sat 28 Jun 2008 12:14:50p, Nancy Young told us...

>> Was I supposed to leave my Le Creuset out for a decoration?
>> I didn't know. I keep it in a cabinet and only take it out to cook.

> Well, Nancy, despite their utility, they are really very decorative.

They're gorgeous. But if they weren't excellent pots I wouldn't
buy them.

> I have umpteen pieces of Le Creuset, and the largest pieces (mostly
> the ovens) I keep on a rack like this. It takes very little floor
> space, and as heavy as the pieces are, I don't want them dangling
> from a hanging rack.

My sil has hers on a rack because she has very limited storage
space. It is attractive.

nancy

Nancy Young > wrote:

>Wayne Boatwright wrote:

>> I have umpteen pieces of Le Creuset, and the largest pieces (mostly
>> the ovens) I keep on a rack like this. It takes very little floor
>> space, and as heavy as the pieces are, I don't want them dangling
>> from a hanging rack.

>My sil has hers on a rack because she has very limited storage
>space. It is attractive.

We have very limited storage space in the small 1920's kitchen
in our small 1920's house. Still, the five Le Creusets only
take up about 1/3 of the built-in kitchen cabinet space so there is
no need for a hanging rack or other external rack.

We benefit from the built-in china cabinet in the dining room,
which takes some pressure off kitchen storage space.

(Also, hanging the Le Creusets would still pose a problems as
to what to do with their lids.)

Steve

Lou Decruss wrote:

> I've got an old one by Vincent Price with a beautiful cover that he
> and his wife wrote about their travels through europe including
> recipes. I rotate coffee table books and it takes it's turn there
> once in awhile. I'll bet you'd love that one. I only paid a buck or
> two for it.
>
> Lou <-----big tease

Yes, that does sound good.
If you ever wanna part with it...I'm game

On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 05:27:30 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>On Sat 28 Jun 2008 10:11:25p, sf told us...
>
>> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 04:08:46 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>Well, Nancy, despite their utility, they are really very decorative. I
>>>have umpteen pieces of Le Creuset, and the largest pieces (mostly the
>>>ovens) I keep on a rack like this. It takes very little floor space, and
>>>as heavy as the pieces are, I don't want them dangling from a hanging
>rack.
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/6lm2jm
>>
>> You spent too much money on pots and then too much money on a place to
>> put them. Maybe you got them inexpensively due to your previous work,
>> but most people spend real money (and a lot of it) on that stuff. I
>> simply can't justify the cost.
>
>LOL! Yes I got them *very* inexpensively back in 1973 through my previous
>work. I spent around $200 on what would be in today's dollar at least
>$1200. I agree that the pot stand was expensive, but it was the only
>practical answer for storing the larger pieces in our present kitchen.
>Actually, many ceiling hung pot racks are far more expensive. My cabinets
>are already comfortably full without over-crowding, and I also like to
>display my Le Creuset and have them handy for use. I'm certainly not
>advocating that everyone do this.

y'all are inciting class warfare here. all i have is that one pot to
**** in and no place to display it.

your pal,
blake
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 09:28:42 -0400, Goomba >
wrote:

>Lou Decruss wrote:
>
>> I've got an old one by Vincent Price with a beautiful cover that he
>> and his wife wrote about their travels through europe including
>> recipes. I rotate coffee table books and it takes it's turn there
>> once in awhile. I'll bet you'd love that one. I only paid a buck or
>> two for it.
>>
>> Lou <-----big tease
>
>Yes, that does sound good.
>If you ever wanna part with it...I'm game

It's something I'll probably never cook from, but it's so cool I
couldn't part with it. After we're both dead our kids will probably
sell it in a garage sale. <shrug>

Lou

On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 04:08:46 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>On Sat 28 Jun 2008 12:14:50p, Nancy Young told us...
>
>> Steve Pope wrote:
>>> sf > wrote:
>>
>>>> Why? I have one Le Creuset and rarely use it. I don't believe in
>>>> buying decorative cookware when functional cookware is less expensive
>>>> and works just as well.
>>>
>>> Wow. We use our Le Creusets *all the time*. I've heard various
>>> opinions about them before, but never "decorative" until now.
>>> We have five of them. They probably comprise 80% of what is used,
>>> stovetop and oven. (Not counting the teakettle.)
>>
>> Was I supposed to leave my Le Creuset out for a decoration?
>> I didn't know. I keep it in a cabinet and only take it out to cook.
>>
>> nancy
>>
>
>Well, Nancy, despite their utility, they are really very decorative. I
>have umpteen pieces of Le Creuset, and the largest pieces (mostly the
>ovens) I keep on a rack like this. It takes very little floor space, and
>as heavy as the pieces are, I don't want them dangling from a hanging rack.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/6lm2jm

That's a beautiful pot rack and I think that would fit in my place, I
sure need one. Thanks for the link.

koko
--
There is no love more sincere than the love of food.
George Bernard Shaw
www.kokoscorner.typepad.com
updated 6/25

On Sun 29 Jun 2008 07:26:36a, blake murphy told us...

> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 05:27:30 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> > wrote:
>
>>On Sat 28 Jun 2008 10:11:25p, sf told us...
>>
>>> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 04:08:46 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Well, Nancy, despite their utility, they are really very decorative.
>>>>I have umpteen pieces of Le Creuset, and the largest pieces (mostly
>>>>the ovens) I keep on a rack like this. It takes very little floor
>>>>space, and as heavy as the pieces are, I don't want them dangling from
>>>>a hanging rack.
>>>>
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/6lm2jm
>>>
>>> You spent too much money on pots and then too much money on a place to
>>> put them. Maybe you got them inexpensively due to your previous work,
>>> but most people spend real money (and a lot of it) on that stuff. I
>>> simply can't justify the cost.
>>
>>LOL! Yes I got them *very* inexpensively back in 1973 through my
>>previous work. I spent around $200 on what would be in today's dollar
>>at least $1200. I agree that the pot stand was expensive, but it was
>>the only practical answer for storing the larger pieces in our present
>>kitchen. Actually, many ceiling hung pot racks are far more expensive.
>>My cabinets are already comfortably full without over-crowding, and I
>>also like to display my Le Creuset and have them handy for use. I'm
>>certainly not advocating that everyone do this.
>
> y'all are inciting class warfare here. all i have is that one pot to
> **** in and no place to display it.
>
> your pal,
> blake
> ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
>

I would guess that it's better than having no pot to **** in. That could
get very messy.

--
Wayne Boatwright
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Rule #1 -- Hide!!! Rule #2 -- If they
find you, lie!!! --Father Damian C.
Fandal, O.P.
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On Sun 29 Jun 2008 09:42:18a, told us...

> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 04:08:46 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> > wrote:
>
>>On Sat 28 Jun 2008 12:14:50p, Nancy Young told us...
>>
>>> Steve Pope wrote:
>>>> sf > wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Why? I have one Le Creuset and rarely use it. I don't believe in
>>>>> buying decorative cookware when functional cookware is less expensive
>>>>> and works just as well.
>>>>
>>>> Wow. We use our Le Creusets *all the time*. I've heard various
>>>> opinions about them before, but never "decorative" until now.
>>>> We have five of them. They probably comprise 80% of what is used,
>>>> stovetop and oven. (Not counting the teakettle.)
>>>
>>> Was I supposed to leave my Le Creuset out for a decoration?
>>> I didn't know. I keep it in a cabinet and only take it out to cook.
>>>
>>> nancy
>>>
>>
>>Well, Nancy, despite their utility, they are really very decorative. I
>>have umpteen pieces of Le Creuset, and the largest pieces (mostly the
>>ovens) I keep on a rack like this. It takes very little floor space, and
>>as heavy as the pieces are, I don't want them dangling from a hanging
rack.
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/6lm2jm
>
> That's a beautiful pot rack and I think that would fit in my place, I
> sure need one. Thanks for the link.
>
> koko

You're welcome. It is beautiful and quite well made. I love the hammered
metal finish on it.

--
Wayne Boatwright
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Sunday, 06(VI)/29(XXIX)/08(MMVIII)
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Rule #1 -- Hide!!! Rule #2 -- If they
find you, lie!!! --Father Damian C.
Fandal, O.P.
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Goomba wrote:

> Lou Decruss wrote:
>
> > I've got an old one by Vincent Price with a beautiful cover that he
> > and his wife wrote about their travels through europe including
> > recipes. I rotate coffee table books and it takes it's turn there
> > once in awhile. I'll bet you'd love that one. I only paid a buck or
> > two for it.
> >
> > Lou <-----big tease
>
> Yes, that does sound good.
> If you ever wanna part with it...I'm game


Wow, I forgot that he wrote cookbooks...he also had a line of paintings for
Sears and wrote art appreciaton books IIRC. What we used to call a
"Renaissance Man", he was cultured and had many interests...

His wife, the wonderful Australian - born actress Coral Browne, is one of my
favorites. She plays the starchy BBC exec Mercy Croft in the hilarious
******* classic _The Killing Of Sister George_...nobody did the disapproving
tone - raised eyebrow thing better than she. When I have a few pops in me I
sometimes like to imitate her, lol...

I bet parties at their home were the best in town, they must have been so
much fun to be around...

--
Best
Greg

Lou Decruss wrote:

> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 11:47:15 -0400, "cybercat" >
> wrote:
>
> >It's a light scratch, I made quesadillas and (duhhh) cut them with as
pizza
> >cutter in the pan. I must have been thinking, "old pan."
>
> I had to go retrieve your post just to tell you what an idiot you are.
>
> Even using a pizza cutter in an old pan is dumb. I wouldn't even do
> that in a cast or S/S pan.
>
> Again,,, you're an idiot.


Hey, *you* said it *first*...

[at least in this thread...]

<chuckle>

--
Best
Greg

" I find Greg Morrow lowbrow, witless, and obnoxious. For him to claim that
we are some
kind of comedy team turns my stomach."
- "cybercat" to me on rec.food.cooking

"sf" <.> wrote:

> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 17:01:35 +0000 (UTC),
> (Steve Pope) wrote:
>
> >cybercat > wrote:
> >
> >>It's a light scratch, I made quesadillas and (duhhh) cut them with as
pizza
> >>cutter in the pan. I must have been thinking, "old pan."
> >
> >No biggie. Best to train yourself not to do that, THEN buy
> >a couple of Le Creuset pieces. You'll be happier.
> >
> Why? I have one Le Creuset and rarely use it. I don't believe in
> buying decorative cookware when functional cookware is less expensive
> and works just as well.
>
> What she should have done was take the thing out of the pan and put it
> on the cutting board before cutting.


No, what the cyberIDIOT should have done is buy a friggin' *brain*...maybe
she can get one cheap at Squallmart, same place she got her cheap nonstick
pan, lol.

Her post has gotta be a troll, no one can be *that* stoopid...

She'd be a flop even as a cavewoman cooking for her caveman in 10,000.000
BC, she'd screw that up too...

<snicker>


--
Best
Greg

" I find Greg Morrow lowbrow, witless, and obnoxious. For him to claim that
we are some
kind of comedy team turns my stomach."
- "cybercat" to me on rec.food.cooking

Nancy Young wrote:

> Steve Pope wrote:
> > sf > wrote:
>
> >> Why? I have one Le Creuset and rarely use it. I don't believe in
> >> buying decorative cookware when functional cookware is less expensive
> >> and works just as well.
> >
> > Wow. We use our Le Creusets *all the time*. I've heard various
> > opinions about them before, but never "decorative" until now.
> > We have five of them. They probably comprise 80% of what
> > is used, stovetop and oven. (Not counting the teakettle.)
>
> Was I supposed to leave my Le Creuset out for a decoration?
> I didn't know. I keep it in a cabinet and only take it out to cook.
>

I'd leave mine out but they are that ugli 70's yellow color...but I couldn't
cook without them, they are my "desert island" cooking vessels for sure.

--
Best
Greg

Gregory Morrow wrote:
> Nancy Young wrote:

>> Was I supposed to leave my Le Creuset out for a decoration?
>> I didn't know. I keep it in a cabinet and only take it out to cook.

> I'd leave mine out but they are that ugli 70's yellow color...but I
> couldn't cook without them, they are my "desert island" cooking
> vessels for sure.

Do you remember a number of years ago, maybe 10?, they
auctioned Marilyn Monroe's possessions? Among them was
a lot of Le Creuset pots which she used quite a bit, they said.

They were a beautiful soft yellow. I'm not big fan of yellow,
but these pots were really attractive. I had to laugh at the price
they estimated they'd fetch. I would have bought them at that
price, for pete's sake. Like $650. There were a lot of pots!

Of course they went for thousands.

nancy

On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:26:36 -0400, blake murphy
> wrote:


>y'all are inciting class warfare here. all i have is that one pot to
>**** in and no place to display it.
>
>your pal,
>blake
>** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

And I haven't even uploaded pics of my collection of Le Crueset....

Christine

Nancy Young wrote:

> Gregory Morrow wrote:
> > Nancy Young wrote:
>
> >> Was I supposed to leave my Le Creuset out for a decoration?
> >> I didn't know. I keep it in a cabinet and only take it out to cook.
>
> > I'd leave mine out but they are that ugli 70's yellow color...but I
> > couldn't cook without them, they are my "desert island" cooking
> > vessels for sure.
>
> Do you remember a number of years ago, maybe 10?, they
> auctioned Marilyn Monroe's possessions? Among them was
> a lot of Le Creuset pots which she used quite a bit, they said.
>
> They were a beautiful soft yellow. I'm not big fan of yellow,
> but these pots were really attractive. I had to laugh at the price
> they estimated they'd fetch. I would have bought them at that
> price, for pete's sake. Like $650. There were a lot of pots!
>
> Of course they went for thousands.


Well, I got mine for free from a friend who was getting all new stuff...

What would one do with MM's cookware - put it in a display case or
something...???

Collectors can sure get obsessive...

--
Best
Greg

cybercat > wrote:

> It's a light scratch, I made quesadillas and (duhhh) cut them with as pizza
> cutter in the pan. I must have been thinking, "old pan."

Try a Silit Tempera non-stick cast-aluminium pan with a CeraProtect
coating - you'd have trouble scratching it, unless you really apply
yourself. And it is good for temperatures of up to 400°C/750°F. These
pans are heavy, though, weighing not quite as much as cast-iron pans of
the same dimensions, but almost... In Germany, at least, they come with
a 5-year guarantee.

Victor

sf <.> wrote:

> Why? I have one Le Creuset and rarely use it. I don't believe in
> buying decorative cookware when functional cookware is less expensive
> and works just as well.

I have one Le Creuset pan and I use it a lot. I bought it for something
like 20 DM about 30 years ago or so. It is an ordinary black cast-iron
pan, just a very-well-made one. No enamel on it and nothing decorative
about it whatever. What gives?

Victor

"Victor Sack" > wrote in message
...
> cybercat > wrote:
>
>> It's a light scratch, I made quesadillas and (duhhh) cut them with as
>> pizza
>> cutter in the pan. I must have been thinking, "old pan."
>
> Try a Silit Tempera non-stick cast-aluminium pan with a CeraProtect
> coating - you'd have trouble scratching it, unless you really apply
> yourself. And it is good for temperatures of up to 400°C/750°F. These
> pans are heavy, though, weighing not quite as much as cast-iron pans of
> the same dimensions, but almost... In Germany, at least, they come with
> a 5-year guarantee.
>

Cool, I have never heard of these! I'll look for them. Thank you.

"Christine Dabney" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:26:36 -0400, blake murphy
> > wrote:
>
>
>>y'all are inciting class warfare here. all i have is that one pot to
>>**** in and no place to display it.
>>
>>your pal,
>>blake
>>** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
>
> And I haven't even uploaded pics of my collection of Le Crueset....
>

Ignore the peasants! Let's see 'em!

On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 22:08:19 -0400, "cybercat" >
wrote:

>
>"Christine Dabney" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:26:36 -0400, blake murphy
>> > wrote:
>>
>>
>>>y'all are inciting class warfare here. all i have is that one pot to
>>>**** in and no place to display it.
>>>
>>>your pal,
>>>blake
>>>** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
>>
>> And I haven't even uploaded pics of my collection of Le Crueset....
>>
>
>Ignore the peasants! Let's see 'em!
>
Hey! Who are you calling a pheasant?


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

On Sun 29 Jun 2008 11:15:02p, sf told us...

> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 22:08:19 -0400, "cybercat" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Christine Dabney" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:26:36 -0400, blake murphy
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>y'all are inciting class warfare here. all i have is that one pot to
>>>>**** in and no place to display it.
>>>>
>>>>your pal,
>>>>blake
>>>>** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
>>>
>>> And I haven't even uploaded pics of my collection of Le Crueset....
>>>
>>
>>Ignore the peasants! Let's see 'em!
>>
> Hey! Who are you calling a pheasant?
>
>

Birdie under glass?

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Wayne Boatwright
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On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 22:06:23 -0400, "cybercat" >
wrote:

>
>"Victor Sack" > wrote in message
.. .
>> cybercat > wrote:
>>
>>> It's a light scratch, I made quesadillas and (duhhh) cut them with as
>>> pizza
>>> cutter in the pan. I must have been thinking, "old pan."
>>
>> Try a Silit Tempera non-stick cast-aluminium pan with a CeraProtect
>> coating - you'd have trouble scratching it, unless you really apply
>> yourself. And it is good for temperatures of up to 400°C/750°F. These
>> pans are heavy, though, weighing not quite as much as cast-iron pans of
>> the same dimensions, but almost... In Germany, at least, they come with
>> a 5-year guarantee.
>>
>
>Cool, I have never heard of these! I'll look for them. Thank you.
>
If you find a source, let me know... but regular teflon lasts at least
5 years for me, so if they are expensive - it's a waste of money, IMO.


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 06:18:58 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>On Sun 29 Jun 2008 11:15:02p, sf told us...
>
>> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 22:08:19 -0400, "cybercat" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Christine Dabney" > wrote in message
...
>>>> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:26:36 -0400, blake murphy
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>y'all are inciting class warfare here. all i have is that one pot to
>>>>>**** in and no place to display it.
>>>>>
>>>>>your pal,
>>>>>blake
>>>>>** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
>>>>
>>>> And I haven't even uploaded pics of my collection of Le Crueset....
>>>>
>>>
>>>Ignore the peasants! Let's see 'em!
>>>
>> Hey! Who are you calling a pheasant?
>>
>>
>
>Birdie under glass?

Chicken? Oh, man... that's low.


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 23:50:08 +0200, (Victor Sack)
wrote:

>sf <.> wrote:
>
>> Why? I have one Le Creuset and rarely use it. I don't believe in
>> buying decorative cookware when functional cookware is less expensive
>> and works just as well.
>
>I have one Le Creuset pan and I use it a lot. I bought it for something
>like 20 DM about 30 years ago or so. It is an ordinary black cast-iron
>pan, just a very-well-made one. No enamel on it and nothing decorative
>about it whatever. What gives?
>
Well, If you want to know how Le Creuset has changed - look at this...
http://www.uncrate.com/men/images/20...ench-ovens.jpg
or this http://www.luxlifemedia.com/media/ar.../art_27_th.jpg
or this
http://cn1.kaboodle.com/hi/img/2/0/0...AAAAAEdraA.jpg
or this
http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/uima...-LeCreuset.jpg
and if you want to see over the top decorative - look at this
http://shinymedia.headshift.com/imag...le_creuset.jpg




--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

On Mon 30 Jun 2008 12:06:02a, sf told us...

> On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 06:18:58 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> > wrote:
>
>>On Sun 29 Jun 2008 11:15:02p, sf told us...
>>
>>> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 22:08:19 -0400, "cybercat" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Christine Dabney" > wrote in message
m...
>>>>> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:26:36 -0400, blake murphy
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>y'all are inciting class warfare here. all i have is that one pot to
>>>>>>**** in and no place to display it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>your pal,
>>>>>>blake
>>>>>>** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
>>>>>
>>>>> And I haven't even uploaded pics of my collection of Le Crueset....
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Ignore the peasants! Let's see 'em!
>>>>
>>> Hey! Who are you calling a pheasant?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Birdie under glass?
>
> Chicken? Oh, man... that's low.
>
>

Once your goose is cooked, life is over.

--
Wayne Boatwright
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Monday, 06(VI)/30(XXX)/08(MMVIII)
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Remember, Charlie Chaplin was a mime too...
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On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:33:15 -0600, Christine Dabney
> wrote:

>On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:26:36 -0400, blake murphy
> wrote:
>
>
>>y'all are inciting class warfare here. all i have is that one pot to
>>**** in and no place to display it.
>>
>>your pal,
>>blake
>>** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
>
>And I haven't even uploaded pics of my collection of Le Crueset....
>
>Christine

don't even speak to me. you could open a ****ing store.

your pal,
blake
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **