It's a light scratch, I made quesadillas and (duhhh) cut them with as pizza
cutter in the pan. I must have been thinking, "old pan."

It's a big relief. They're so pretty, I've been half afraid to use them.

cybercat > wrote:

>It's a light scratch, I made quesadillas and (duhhh) cut them with as pizza
>cutter in the pan. I must have been thinking, "old pan."

No biggie. Best to train yourself not to do that, THEN buy
a couple of Le Creuset pieces. You'll be happier.

S.

On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 17:59:36 +0000 (UTC),
(Steve Pope) wrote:

>sf > wrote:

>>Why? I have one Le Creuset and rarely use it. I don't believe in
>>buying decorative cookware when functional cookware is less expensive
>>and works just as well.
>
>Wow. We use our Le Creusets *all the time*. I've heard various
>opinions about them before, but never "decorative" until now.
>We have five of them. They probably comprise 80% of what
>is used, stovetop and oven. (Not counting the teakettle.)
>
>Steve

I have stacks of them and I use them all the time as well. I love my
gratin pan...things get roasted in that all the time. And my dutch
ovens....

And I have a Tarte Tatin pan....and my soup pot...which are wonderful.

The only thing I haven't really used yet, is my terrine mold from Le
Crueset.

Christine

On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 20:15:13 +0200, ChattyCathy
> wrote:

>On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 12:10:24 -0500, Christine Dabney wrote:

>> I have stacks of them and I use them all the time as well. I love my
>> gratin pan...things get roasted in that all the time. And my dutch
>> ovens....
>>
>
>Kewl. Please remember me in your will ;-)

What will?

And who gets the cookbooks?

Christine

"Steve Pope" > wrote in message
...
> cybercat > wrote:
>
>>It's a light scratch, I made quesadillas and (duhhh) cut them with as
>>pizza
>>cutter in the pan. I must have been thinking, "old pan."
>
> No biggie. Best to train yourself not to do that, THEN buy
> a couple of Le Creuset pieces. You'll be happier.
>

Really? I will check them out.

On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 17:01:35 +0000 (UTC),
(Steve Pope) wrote:

>cybercat > wrote:
>
>>It's a light scratch, I made quesadillas and (duhhh) cut them with as pizza
>>cutter in the pan. I must have been thinking, "old pan."
>
>No biggie. Best to train yourself not to do that, THEN buy
>a couple of Le Creuset pieces. You'll be happier.
>
Why? I have one Le Creuset and rarely use it. I don't believe in
buying decorative cookware when functional cookware is less expensive
and works just as well.

What she should have done was take the thing out of the pan and put it
on the cutting board before cutting. Buying Le Creuset will not
change that part... it was a quesadilla fer cripe sake. Use uncoated
cast iron or cheap teflon - doesn't matter which, unless she continues
to cut her quesadillas inside the pan - then cast iron is best.



--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

sf > wrote:

>On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 17:01:35 +0000 (UTC),

>>cybercat > wrote:

>>>It's a light scratch, I made quesadillas and (duhhh) cut them with as pizza
>>>cutter in the pan. I must have been thinking, "old pan."

>>No biggie. Best to train yourself not to do that, THEN buy
>>a couple of Le Creuset pieces. You'll be happier.

>Why? I have one Le Creuset and rarely use it. I don't believe in
>buying decorative cookware when functional cookware is less expensive
>and works just as well.

Wow. We use our Le Creusets *all the time*. I've heard various
opinions about them before, but never "decorative" until now.
We have five of them. They probably comprise 80% of what
is used, stovetop and oven. (Not counting the teakettle.)

Steve

On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 12:10:24 -0500, Christine Dabney wrote:

> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 17:59:36 +0000 (UTC),
> (Steve Pope) wrote:
>
>>sf > wrote:
>
>>>Why? I have one Le Creuset and rarely use it. I don't believe in
>>>buying decorative cookware when functional cookware is less expensive
>>>and works just as well.
>>
>>Wow. We use our Le Creusets *all the time*. I've heard various
>>opinions about them before, but never "decorative" until now.
>>We have five of them. They probably comprise 80% of what
>>is used, stovetop and oven. (Not counting the teakettle.)
>>
>>Steve
>
> I have stacks of them and I use them all the time as well. I love my
> gratin pan...things get roasted in that all the time. And my dutch
> ovens....
>

Kewl. Please remember me in your will ;-)

--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

Egg tastes better when it's not on your face...

"sf" <.> wrote in message news
> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 17:01:35 +0000 (UTC),
> (Steve Pope) wrote:
>
>>cybercat > wrote:
>>
>>>It's a light scratch, I made quesadillas and (duhhh) cut them with as
>>>pizza
>>>cutter in the pan. I must have been thinking, "old pan."
>>
>>No biggie. Best to train yourself not to do that, THEN buy
>>a couple of Le Creuset pieces. You'll be happier.
>>
> Why? I have one Le Creuset and rarely use it. I don't believe in
> buying decorative cookware when functional cookware is less expensive
> and works just as well.
>
> What she should have done was take the thing out of the pan and put it
> on the cutting board before cutting. Buying Le Creuset will not
> change that part... it was a quesadilla fer cripe sake. Use uncoated
> cast iron or cheap teflon - doesn't matter which, unless she continues
> to cut her quesadillas inside the pan - then cast iron is best.
>
Cast iron is too heavy. This is why I rarely use my Calphalon pans.

As I said, it is just a scratch AND I meant that I am relieved. The
perfection of these new pans were wearing on me.

On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 21:49:16 +0200, ChattyCathy
> wrote:

>On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 10:49:14 -0700, sf wrote:
>
>>>
>> Why? I have one Le Creuset and rarely use it. I don't believe in
>> buying decorative cookware when functional cookware is less expensive
>> and works just as well.
>
>Decorative cookware? Le Creuset? You're kidding, right? I use mine a
>couple of times a week (at least).

And Cathy is being all nice to me now...cause she wants me to leave
her my Le Crueset in my will....

And Koko is playing all nice too..she wants my cookbooks too!

Christine

Steve Pope wrote:
> sf > wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 17:01:35 +0000 (UTC),
>
>>> cybercat > wrote:
>
>>>> It's a light scratch, I made quesadillas and (duhhh) cut them with as pizza
>>>> cutter in the pan. I must have been thinking, "old pan."
>
>>> No biggie. Best to train yourself not to do that, THEN buy
>>> a couple of Le Creuset pieces. You'll be happier.
>
>> Why? I have one Le Creuset and rarely use it. I don't believe in
>> buying decorative cookware when functional cookware is less expensive
>> and works just as well.
>
> Wow. We use our Le Creusets *all the time*. I've heard various
> opinions about them before, but never "decorative" until now.
> We have five of them. They probably comprise 80% of what
> is used, stovetop and oven. (Not counting the teakettle.)
>
> Steve

They are so heavy. I've thought about them, but I don't think I could
live with all the strain of lifting. My Calphalon stainless are heavy
enough.

--
Janet Wilder
Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
Good Friends. Good Life

Steve Pope wrote:
> sf > wrote:

>> Why? I have one Le Creuset and rarely use it. I don't believe in
>> buying decorative cookware when functional cookware is less expensive
>> and works just as well.
>
> Wow. We use our Le Creusets *all the time*. I've heard various
> opinions about them before, but never "decorative" until now.
> We have five of them. They probably comprise 80% of what
> is used, stovetop and oven. (Not counting the teakettle.)

Was I supposed to leave my Le Creuset out for a decoration?
I didn't know. I keep it in a cabinet and only take it out to cook.

nancy

On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 16:17:13 -0400, "cybercat" >
wrote:

>
>"Sky" > wrote
>> Hey, I want dibs on that pan/pot tree!!!! <VBEG>
>>
>
>What is this??
>

I would show you, except I lost my pics too...

Christine

"Janet Wilder" > wrote
> They are so heavy. I've thought about them, but I don't think I could live
> with all the strain of lifting. My Calphalon stainless are heavy enough.

My mistake was asking for Calphalon when we got married, because that
was supposed to be the best the department store where we were registerd
offered. Sure, it will last forever, but man, I want something easily
manipulated,
not a workout.

On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 16:35:31 -0400, Goomba >
wrote:

>Christine Dabney wrote:
>
>> And who gets the cookbooks?
>>
>> Christine
>
>Apparently we ALL will! You have enough to go around to most of us.
>I'll take the classics please Or any historical ones.

How will you bribe me?

Christine

cybercat > wrote:

>Cast iron is too heavy. This is why I rarely use my Calphalon pans.

>As I said, it is just a scratch AND I meant that I am relieved. The
>perfection of these new pans were wearing on me.

Right. If heaviness is an issue than Le Creuset (or plain cast iron,
or the heavier Calphalon/stainless) are not for you.

Steve

On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 10:49:14 -0700, sf wrote:

>>
> Why? I have one Le Creuset and rarely use it. I don't believe in
> buying decorative cookware when functional cookware is less expensive
> and works just as well.

Decorative cookware? Le Creuset? You're kidding, right? I use mine a
couple of times a week (at least).

--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

Egg tastes better when it's not on your face...

On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 16:48:30 -0400, Goomba >
wrote:


>Or blackmail you....?
>LOL
>I have pictures!!


Sigh.....

I lost all my pics too.

Christine

Christine Dabney wrote:
>
> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 21:49:16 +0200, ChattyCathy
> > wrote:
>
> >On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 10:49:14 -0700, sf wrote:
> >
> >>>
> >> Why? I have one Le Creuset and rarely use it. I don't believe in
> >> buying decorative cookware when functional cookware is less expensive
> >> and works just as well.
> >
> >Decorative cookware? Le Creuset? You're kidding, right? I use mine a
> >couple of times a week (at least).
>
> And Cathy is being all nice to me now...cause she wants me to leave
> her my Le Crueset in my will....
>
> And Koko is playing all nice too..she wants my cookbooks too!
>
> Christine

Hey, I want dibs on that pan/pot tree!!!! <VBEG>

Sky

--
Ultra Ultimate Kitchen Rule - Use the Timer!
Ultimate Kitchen Rule -- Cook's Choice

On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 13:54:00 -0500, Christine Dabney
> wrote:

>On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 21:49:16 +0200, ChattyCathy
> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 10:49:14 -0700, sf wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>> Why? I have one Le Creuset and rarely use it. I don't believe in
>>> buying decorative cookware when functional cookware is less expensive
>>> and works just as well.
>>
>>Decorative cookware? Le Creuset? You're kidding, right? I use mine a
>>couple of times a week (at least).
>
>And Cathy is being all nice to me now...cause she wants me to leave
>her my Le Crueset in my will....
>
>And Koko is playing all nice too..she wants my cookbooks too!
>
>Christine

I'm always nice, except when I'm not phfffftttt!!

koko
--
There is no love more sincere than the love of food.
George Bernard Shaw
www.kokoscorner.typepad.com
updated 6/25

"Sky" > wrote
> Hey, I want dibs on that pan/pot tree!!!! <VBEG>
>

What is this??

"Steve Pope" > wrote in message
...
> cybercat > wrote:
>
>>Cast iron is too heavy. This is why I rarely use my Calphalon pans.
>
>>As I said, it is just a scratch AND I meant that I am relieved. The
>>perfection of these new pans were wearing on me.
>
> Right. If heaviness is an issue than Le Creuset (or plain cast iron,
> or the heavier Calphalon/stainless) are not for you.
>

So you don't mind heavy pots and pans? It's not that I am not strong enough
to heave them around, I just don't *want* to.

On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 17:06:04 -0400, Goomba >
wrote:


>I'll share what I have, but give me a few days.
>Doing my third PM in a row tonight..ugh.

yuck is right.

I interview for a staff job on Wednesday.

Not looking forward to going back to work, except for the money.

Christine

Christine Dabney wrote:
>
> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 16:17:13 -0400, "cybercat" >
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Sky" > wrote
> >> Hey, I want dibs on that pan/pot tree!!!! <VBEG>
> >>
> >
> >What is this??
> >
>
> I would show you, except I lost my pics too...
>
> Christine

Per Chris's directive <G>, here's a link --
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=15p3ad2&s=3 <--- Chris's pan/pot tree

Sky
--
Ultra Ultimate Kitchen Rule - Use the Timer!
Ultimate Kitchen Rule -- Cook's Choice

Christine Dabney wrote:

> And who gets the cookbooks?
>
> Christine

Apparently we ALL will! You have enough to go around to most of us.
I'll take the classics please Or any historical ones.

Nancy Young wrote:

> Was I supposed to leave my Le Creuset out for a decoration?
> I didn't know. I keep it in a cabinet and only take it out to cook.
>
> nancy

I actually do leave my large blue Dutch oven on the back burner out of
the way because not only is it gorgeous (and cheers me to see it) but it
saves me brute strength needed to haul it around. I move it out of the
way when necessary but otherwise it sit.
http://i25.tinypic.com/2hphf61.jpg

(note ugly cabinets and counter that are soon to be replaced!! Yippee
Skippee!)

Christine Dabney wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 16:35:31 -0400, Goomba >
> wrote:
>
>> Christine Dabney wrote:
>>
>>> And who gets the cookbooks?
>>>
>>> Christine
>> Apparently we ALL will! You have enough to go around to most of us.
>> I'll take the classics please Or any historical ones.
>
> How will you bribe me?
>
> Christine

Or blackmail you....?
LOL
I have pictures!!

"Goomba" > wrote in message
...

> I actually do leave my large blue Dutch oven on the back burner out of the
> way because not only is it gorgeous (and cheers me to see it) but it saves
> me brute strength needed to haul it around. I move it out of the way when
> necessary but otherwise it sit.
> http://i25.tinypic.com/2hphf61.jpg
>
Nice, and I like your stovetop! On another note, I really miss gas cooking.
I used to do cake decorating and since buying my house I have almost stopped
because I just can't bake in an electric oven. Anyone have luck doing this?
Maybe my oven is just too old and not working properly. Took long enough to
get used to a heat pump and electric heat.

"Sky" > wrote in message
...
> Christine Dabney wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 16:17:13 -0400, "cybercat" >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Sky" > wrote
>> >> Hey, I want dibs on that pan/pot tree!!!! <VBEG>
>> >>
>> >
>> >What is this??
>> >
>>
>> I would show you, except I lost my pics too...
>>
>> Christine
>
> Per Chris's directive <G>, here's a link --
> http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=15p3ad2&s=3 <--- Chris's pan/pot tree
>


How cool is that?!! I want one! I want to keep my ugly old pans underneath
and my new pans out where they are easy to get to and will not get banged
up.

> wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 13:54:00 -0500, Christine Dabney
> > wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 21:49:16 +0200, ChattyCathy
> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 10:49:14 -0700, sf wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Why? I have one Le Creuset and rarely use it. I don't believe in
>>>> buying decorative cookware when functional cookware is less expensive
>>>> and works just as well.
>>>
>>>Decorative cookware? Le Creuset? You're kidding, right? I use mine a
>>>couple of times a week (at least).
>>
>>And Cathy is being all nice to me now...cause she wants me to leave
>>her my Le Crueset in my will....
>>
>>And Koko is playing all nice too..she wants my cookbooks too!
>>
>>Christine
>
> I'm always nice, except when I'm not phfffftttt!!
>

Yeah, me too.

*looking alllll around*

Cheryl wrote:

> Nice, and I like your stovetop! On another note, I really miss gas cooking.
> I used to do cake decorating and since buying my house I have almost stopped
> because I just can't bake in an electric oven. Anyone have luck doing this?
> Maybe my oven is just too old and not working properly. Took long enough to
> get used to a heat pump and electric heat.
>
>
Thanks
I always preferred gas ranges with electric ovens (Dual Fuel, I believe
they're called) but this gas oven has worked very nicely for me. I have
no complaints with it. It isn't even a pricey model-just one of the
ones Consumers Report listed as good years ago.

Christine Dabney wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 16:48:30 -0400, Goomba >
> wrote:
>
>
>> Or blackmail you....?
>> LOL
>> I have pictures!!
>
>
> Sigh.....
>
> I lost all my pics too.
>
> Christine

I'll share what I have, but give me a few days.
Doing my third PM in a row tonight..ugh.

Goomba wrote:
> Nancy Young wrote:
>
>> Was I supposed to leave my Le Creuset out for a decoration?
>> I didn't know. I keep it in a cabinet and only take it out to cook.

> I actually do leave my large blue Dutch oven on the back burner out of
> the way because not only is it gorgeous (and cheers me to see it) but
> it saves me brute strength needed to haul it around. I move it out
> of the way when necessary but otherwise it sit.
> http://i25.tinypic.com/2hphf61.jpg

Oh, it is beautiful. They have a blue color out now that I'm
irrisistably drawn to. I saw it at Sur la Table. I covet it, but it
would have to be something I would use. My pots are not
decorations.

> (note ugly cabinets and counter that are soon to be replaced!! Yippee
> Skippee!)

Can't wait! I noticed because you're replacing them.

nancy

Nancy Young > wrote:

>Oh, it is beautiful. They have a blue color out now that I'm
>irrisistably drawn to. I saw it at Sur la Table.

The almost aquamarine color? I saw that too.

Most of ours (all but one) are the traditional straight blue.
One is flaming orange.

Steve

Nancy Young wrote:

>> I actually do leave my large blue Dutch oven on the back burner out of
>> the way because not only is it gorgeous (and cheers me to see it) but
>> it saves me brute strength needed to haul it around. I move it out
>> of the way when necessary but otherwise it sit.
>> http://i25.tinypic.com/2hphf61.jpg
>
> Oh, it is beautiful. They have a blue color out now that I'm
> irrisistably drawn to. I saw it at Sur la Table. I covet it, but it
> would have to be something I would use. My pots are not decorations.

Oh absolutely! Mine are working tools...with the added benefit of this
one just being so darn pretty too!
That is my only piece of LC, and I have one large cast iron skillet, but
the rest of my saucepans (7) are things we purchased in Germany, and
Revere Ware I've had since I Jesus was a private and I've never had any
complaints with and an assortment of frying pans and skillets I've
purchased as the need or desire hit me. Of course I also own a couple of
hugeass pasta and soup pots.

Steve Pope wrote:
> Nancy Young > wrote:
>
>> Oh, it is beautiful. They have a blue color out now that I'm
>> irrisistably drawn to. I saw it at Sur la Table.
>
> The almost aquamarine color? I saw that too.

Yeah, that. I wouldn't mind having an oval roaster, and
this color might make me go for it.

> Most of ours (all but one) are the traditional straight blue.
> One is flaming orange.
>

Nice. I only have one piece, a hunter green dutch oven.
Bought it specially to make osso bucco (sp). Wondered why
I didn't buy it sooner.

nancy

Goomba wrote:
> Oh absolutely! Mine are working tools...with the added benefit of this
> one just being so darn pretty too!
> That is my only piece of LC, and I have one large cast iron skillet, but
> the rest of my saucepans (7) are things we purchased in Germany, and
> Revere Ware I've had since I Jesus was a private and I've never had any
> complaints with and an assortment of frying pans and skillets I've
> purchased as the need or desire hit me. Of course I also own a couple of
> hugeass pasta and soup pots.

Someone remind me to have my editor review posts before hitting that
send button?
Excuse the horrible grammar, please?

On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 16:35:31 -0400, Goomba >
wrote:

>Christine Dabney wrote:
>
>> And who gets the cookbooks?
>>
>> Christine
>
>Apparently we ALL will! You have enough to go around to most of us.
>I'll take the classics please Or any historical ones.

I've got an old one by Vincent Price with a beautiful cover that he
and his wife wrote about their travels through europe including
recipes. I rotate coffee table books and it takes it's turn there
once in awhile. I'll bet you'd love that one. I only paid a buck or
two for it.

Lou <-----big tease

On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 16:51:54 -0400, "Cheryl" >
wrote:

>Nice, and I like your stovetop! On another note, I really miss gas cooking.
>I used to do cake decorating and since buying my house I have almost stopped
>because I just can't bake in an electric oven. Anyone have luck doing this?

Of course! I will *only* use electric.

>Maybe my oven is just too old and not working properly.

Most likely reason.

>Took long enough to
>get used to a heat pump and electric heat.

I have no idea what a heat pump is.


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 13:54:00 -0500, Christine Dabney
> wrote:

>On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 21:49:16 +0200, ChattyCathy
> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 10:49:14 -0700, sf wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>> Why? I have one Le Creuset and rarely use it. I don't believe in
>>> buying decorative cookware when functional cookware is less expensive
>>> and works just as well.
>>
>>Decorative cookware? Le Creuset? You're kidding, right? I use mine a
>>couple of times a week (at least).
>
>And Cathy is being all nice to me now...cause she wants me to leave
>her my Le Crueset in my will....
>
Sorry, not interested. Never did like enameled pots and pans.

>And Koko is playing all nice too..she wants my cookbooks too!
>
I have enough, thanks.



--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West