I was in Costco yesterday and came across a strange
sight ... palettes of milk sitting outside the cooler. I did
a double take to see that it really was milk without it
clicking that something was odd about it. Odd enough
for me to think, is that really milk? if that makes any sense.

It's the new square containers. Seems they cost less to
ship, and use less labor somehow, saving some 15 cents
a container.

nancy

Nancy Young wrote:
> I was in Costco yesterday and came across a strange
> sight ... palettes of milk sitting outside the cooler. I did
> a double take to see that it really was milk without it clicking that
> something was odd about it. Odd enough for me to think, is that really
> milk? if that makes any sense.
>
> It's the new square containers. Seems they cost less to ship, and use
> less labor somehow, saving some 15 cents
> a container.
> nancy
Let's see, when I was a boy in the forties and fifties, milk came in
round glass bottles, a little later it came in square waxed cardboard
containers, still later yet it came in round plastic or square plastic
containers. (Well, sort of square, the squares had rounded corners.) Now
it's going back to square containers.

It's a conspiracy by the big milk producers to get us to buy more milk.
Yeah, that's it.

George Shirley wrote:
> Nancy Young wrote:
>> I was in Costco yesterday and came across a strange
>> sight ... palettes of milk sitting outside the cooler. I did
>> a double take to see that it really was milk without it clicking that
>> something was odd about it. Odd enough for me to think, is that
>> really milk? if that makes any sense.
>>
>> It's the new square containers. Seems they cost less to ship, and
>> use less labor somehow, saving some 15 cents
>> a container.
>> nancy
> Let's see, when I was a boy in the forties and fifties, milk came in
> round glass bottles, a little later it came in square waxed cardboard
> containers, still later yet it came in round plastic or square plastic
> containers. (Well, sort of square, the squares had rounded corners.)
> Now it's going back to square containers.
>
> It's a conspiracy by the big milk producers to get us to buy more
> milk. Yeah, that's it.

I don't know why I didn't think of that! Of course that's it. The
old milk just won't do anymore, too old fashioned. Heh.

nancy

On Tue 01 Jul 2008 05:05:56a, Nancy Young told us...

> I was in Costco yesterday and came across a strange
> sight ... palettes of milk sitting outside the cooler. I did
> a double take to see that it really was milk without it
> clicking that something was odd about it. Odd enough
> for me to think, is that really milk? if that makes any sense.
>
> It's the new square containers. Seems they cost less to
> ship, and use less labor somehow, saving some 15 cents
> a container.
>
> nancy

In Cleveland, at least, back in the 70s-80s or so, they had square quart
waxed cardboard containers. The tops were flat (not like "peak-roof" style
of today). The cartons opened at the one of the corners.

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On Jul 1, 8:24�am, "Nancy Young" > wrote:
> George Shirley wrote:
> > Nancy Young wrote:
> >> I was in Costco yesterday and came across a strange
> >> sight ... palettes of milk sitting outside the cooler. �I did
> >> a double take to see that it really was milk without it clicking that
> >> something was odd about it. �Odd enough for me to think, is that
> >> really milk? if that makes any sense.
>
> >> It's the new square containers. �Seems they cost less to ship, and
> >> use less labor somehow, saving some 15 cents
> >> a container.
> >> nancy
> > Let's see, when I was a boy in the forties and fifties, milk came in
> > round glass bottles, a little later it came in square waxed cardboard
> > containers, still later yet it came in round plastic or square plastic
> > containers. (Well, sort of square, the squares had rounded corners.)
> > Now it's going back to square containers.
>
> > It's a conspiracy by the big milk producers to get us to buy more
> > milk. Yeah, that's it.
>
> I don't know why I didn't think of that! �Of course that's it. �The
> old milk just won't do anymore, too old fashioned. �Heh.
>
> nancy

All this just proves that milk is best served from its natural
container.

Nancy Young wrote:

> I was in Costco yesterday and came across a strange
> sight ... palettes of milk sitting outside the cooler. I did
> a double take to see that it really was milk without it
> clicking that something was odd about it. Odd enough
> for me to think, is that really milk? if that makes any sense.
>
> It's the new square containers. Seems they cost less to
> ship, and use less labor somehow, saving some 15 cents
> a container.

When I was in Estonia and Sweden recently all the dairy products
came in tetra packs. Milk, cream, keffir and even yoghurt.

Nancy Young wrote:
> I was in Costco yesterday and came across a strange
> sight ... palettes of milk sitting outside the cooler. I did
> a double take to see that it really was milk without it clicking that
> something was odd about it. Odd enough for me to think, is that really
> milk? if that makes any sense.
>
> It's the new square containers. Seems they cost less to ship, and use
> less labor somehow, saving some 15 cents
> a container.
> nancy

Its to maximize the amount of product that can be shipped/stored etc in
a given volume. High fuel prices cause a lot of rethinking. I walked by
the liquid detergent aisle the other day and they had some significant
signage declaring everything is now 2x concentrated. Costs a lot of
money to ship watered down detergent so now they are leaving half the
water out.

In article >,
"Nancy Young" > wrote:

> I was in Costco yesterday and came across a strange
>
> It's the new square containers. Seems they cost less to
> ship, and use less labor somehow, saving some 15 cents
> a container.
>
> nancy

CBS news last night told the story.
--
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On Jul 1, 9:06�am, George > wrote:
> Nancy Young wrote:
> > I was in Costco yesterday and came across a strange
> > sight ... palettes of milk sitting outside the cooler. �I did
> > a double take to see that it really was milk without it clicking that
> > something was odd about it. �Odd enough for me to think, is that really
> > milk? if that makes any sense.
>
> > It's the new square containers. �Seems they cost less to ship, and use
> > less labor somehow, saving some 15 cents
> > a container.
> > nancy
>
> Its to maximize the amount of product that can be shipped/stored etc in
> a given volume. High fuel prices cause a lot of rethinking. I walked by
> the liquid detergent aisle the other day and they had some significant
> signage declaring everything is now 2x concentrated. Costs a lot of
> money to ship watered down detergent so now they are leaving half the
> water out.

Why not just buy powdered milk/detergent?
Those heavy plastic liquid detergent jugs probably use as much energy
to manufacture as to ship the product. The oil shortage is probably
as much from plastic containers as from transportation petrol.

George wrote:

>
> Its to maximize the amount of product that can be shipped/stored etc in
> a given volume. High fuel prices cause a lot of rethinking. I walked by
> the liquid detergent aisle the other day and they had some significant
> signage declaring everything is now 2x concentrated. Costs a lot of
> money to ship watered down detergent so now they are leaving half the
> water out.

be careful with the new stuff, we got some and i used half a cap for a
load of clothes, and had to rinse the clothes three extra times to get
all of the suds out! next time i'll use even less product.

harriet & critters is cooler azusa

Nancy Young wrote:
>
> I was in Costco yesterday and came across a strange
> sight ... palettes of milk sitting outside the cooler. I did
> a double take to see that it really was milk without it
> clicking that something was odd about it. Odd enough
> for me to think, is that really milk? if that makes any sense.
>
> It's the new square containers. Seems they cost less to
> ship, and use less labor somehow, saving some 15 cents
> a container.
>
> nancy

This must've been interesting news, because I saw this very thing about
the square milk jugs last night on the local (or was it national?)
evening TV news yesterday. The news droids reported that there seems to
be a problem with these new square bottles (is that an oxymoron?)
because they're very ackward to use and cause inadvertent spillage when
the milk is poured.

Sky

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mequeenbe.nospam wrote:
> George wrote:
>
>>
>> Its to maximize the amount of product that can be shipped/stored etc
>> in a given volume. High fuel prices cause a lot of rethinking. I
>> walked by the liquid detergent aisle the other day and they had some
>> significant signage declaring everything is now 2x concentrated.
>> Costs a lot of money to ship watered down detergent so now they are
>> leaving half the water out.
>
> be careful with the new stuff, we got some and i used half a cap for a
> load of clothes, and had to rinse the clothes three extra times to get
> all of the suds out! next time i'll use even less product.
>
> harriet & critters is cooler azusa


Are you supposed to dilute the product first? I haven't looked at bottled
liquid laundry detergent in a while.

Jill

Sky wrote:
> Nancy Young wrote:
>>
>> I was in Costco yesterday and came across a strange
>> sight ... palettes of milk sitting outside the cooler. I did
>> a double take to see that it really was milk without it
>> clicking that something was odd about it. Odd enough
>> for me to think, is that really milk? if that makes any sense.
>>
>> It's the new square containers. Seems they cost less to
>> ship, and use less labor somehow, saving some 15 cents
>> a container.
>>
>> nancy
>
> This must've been interesting news, because I saw this very thing
> about the square milk jugs last night on the local (or was it
> national?) evening TV news yesterday. The news droids reported that
> there seems to be a problem with these new square bottles (is that an
> oxymoron?) because they're very ackward to use and cause inadvertent
> spillage when the milk is poured.
>
> Sky
>
I haven't seen (looked for) the square milk containers. What sort of pour
spout do they have? What would make pouring the milk so difficult? I'm
imagining something akin to the cartons of chicken broth; no trouble pouring
that stuff out without spilling it.

Jill

Melba's Jammin' wrote:

> "Nancy Young" > wrote:
>
>> I was in Costco yesterday and came across a strange
>>
>> It's the new square containers. Seems they cost less to
>> ship, and use less labor somehow, saving some 15 cents
>> a container.

> CBS news last night told the story.

Yeah, it's all over the news now. Yesterday morning, not
so much.

nancy

On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 08:05:56 -0400, "Nancy Young" >
wrote:

>I was in Costco yesterday and came across a strange
>sight ... palettes of milk sitting outside the cooler. I did
>a double take to see that it really was milk without it
>clicking that something was odd about it. Odd enough
>for me to think, is that really milk? if that makes any sense.
>
>It's the new square containers. Seems they cost less to
>ship, and use less labor somehow, saving some 15 cents
>a container.
>
>nancy

Those milk containers were in the NYT yesterday... what I don't get is
how they say that the milk will be 'fresher' because it takes a few
hours less to package it it up and deliver it to the stores - but
they'll only be delivering milk to the store once a week instead of
every second day... seems to me that it'll only be 'fresher' if you
get to it on the day it's delivered, otherwise it'll be just the same
or older!

Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Tue 01 Jul 2008 05:05:56a, Nancy Young told us...
>
>> I was in Costco yesterday and came across a strange
>> sight ... palettes of milk sitting outside the cooler. I did
>> a double take to see that it really was milk without it
>> clicking that something was odd about it. Odd enough
>> for me to think, is that really milk? if that makes any sense.
>>
>> It's the new square containers. Seems they cost less to
>> ship, and use less labor somehow, saving some 15 cents
>> a container.
>>
>> nancy
>
> In Cleveland, at least, back in the 70s-80s or so, they had square quart
> waxed cardboard containers. The tops were flat (not like "peak-roof" style
> of today). The cartons opened at the one of the corners.
>
We used to buy irradiated liter containers of milk that didn't need
refrigeration until opened. We lived in the Middle East for several
years and our milk came out of the Netherlands. Tasted okay to me and
was easy enough to cook with.

I stayed up a couple of nights to see if we glowed in the dark but no
such luck.

jmcquown wrote:
> Sky wrote:
>> Nancy Young wrote:

>>> It's the new square containers. Seems they cost less to
>>> ship, and use less labor somehow, saving some 15 cents
>>> a container.

>> This must've been interesting news, because I saw this very thing
>> about the square milk jugs last night on the local (or was it
>> national?) evening TV news yesterday. The news droids reported that
>> there seems to be a problem with these new square bottles (is that an
>> oxymoron?) because they're very ackward to use and cause inadvertent
>> spillage when the milk is poured.

> I haven't seen (looked for) the square milk containers. What sort of
> pour spout do they have? What would make pouring the milk so
> difficult? I'm imagining something akin to the cartons of chicken
> broth; no trouble pouring that stuff out without spilling it.

I don't know. I noticed them practicing how to pour it on Good Morning
America, so I guess there's an issue.

nancy

Sheldon wrote:

> Why not just buy powdered milk/detergent?

I am *not* buying powdered milk.

nancy

Nancy Young wrote:
>
> jmcquown wrote:
> > Sky wrote:
> >> Nancy Young wrote:
>
> >>> It's the new square containers. Seems they cost less to
> >>> ship, and use less labor somehow, saving some 15 cents
> >>> a container.
>
> >> This must've been interesting news, because I saw this very thing
> >> about the square milk jugs last night on the local (or was it
> >> national?) evening TV news yesterday. The news droids reported that
> >> there seems to be a problem with these new square bottles (is that an
> >> oxymoron?) because they're very ackward to use and cause inadvertent
> >> spillage when the milk is poured.
>
> > I haven't seen (looked for) the square milk containers. What sort of
> > pour spout do they have? What would make pouring the milk so
> > difficult? I'm imagining something akin to the cartons of chicken
> > broth; no trouble pouring that stuff out without spilling it.
>
> I don't know. I noticed them practicing how to pour it on Good Morning
> America, so I guess there's an issue.
>
> nancy

Here's the spot I saw on CBS evening news yesterday about the new square
milk jugs:
http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_vi...ayer3420.shtml

TinyUrl: http://tinyurl.com/5z724u

Forewarning - there's a 10-second (give or take a few seconds)
commercial before the actual video about the square milk jugs starts.

Sky

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I've just spent several minutes googling (web and images) and am certain
I'm missing something.


Would someone post a pointer to a picture of the new container, please?
(An ordinary still shot, not a video. I don't do video on this computer.)


The ones I'm finding look ordinary to me, either regular cardboard
cartons that I'd call rectangular rather than square, or plastic bottles
with roughly rounded corners, again, rectangular rather than square.
Both have been on the shelves for ages and are nothing to make news.


--Lia

On Jul 1, 9:51�am, "jmcquown" > wrote:
> mequeenbe.nospam wrote:
> > George wrote:
>
> >> Its to maximize the amount of product that can be shipped/stored etc
> >> in a given volume. High fuel prices cause a lot of rethinking. I
> >> walked by the liquid detergent aisle the other day and they had some
> >> significant signage declaring everything is now 2x concentrated.
> >> Costs a lot of money to ship watered down detergent so now they are
> >> leaving half the water out.
>
> > be careful with the new stuff, we got some and i used half a cap for a
> > load of clothes, and had to rinse the clothes three extra times to get
> > all of the suds out! �next time i'll use even less product.
>
> > harriet & critters is cooler azusa
>
> Are you supposed to dilute the product first?

It's kind of pointless to dilute a cleaning product with water before
adding it to water.

There are various factors involved in dertermining how much laundry
product to use, the size of the tub, to what water level it's filled,
how much clothing adn how soiled, and mostly water hardness... the
softer the water the less cleaning product that's needed... with
softened water all cleaning product use can be cut to less than half
the recommended amount... the money saved on using less cleaning
product more than pays for the water softener... your bottle of
shampoo will give double use, and with soft water it all rinses out,
clothing containing cleaners is not really clean, in fact the original
body schmutz is far less harmful than the cleaning chemicals that
remain. Bathing with hard water is not really bathing at all, in fact
hard water is what keeps the Dermatologists in business. Americans
have the highest incidence of skin cancers, mostly because they bathe
more frequently, they use more body cleaning products than anyone
else, and they use hard water... when they leave the bath their bodies
are polluted with chemicals. No matter how much you rinse with hard
water those cleaning products remain. So what's the point of if after
bathing your body is polluted, and putting on freshly laundered
clothes that are charged with laundry chemicals

Julia Altshuler wrote:
> I've just spent several minutes googling (web and images) and am certain
> I'm missing something.
>
>
> Would someone post a pointer to a picture of the new container, please?
> (An ordinary still shot, not a video. I don't do video on this computer.)
>
>
> The ones I'm finding look ordinary to me, either regular cardboard
> cartons that I'd call rectangular rather than square, or plastic bottles
> with roughly rounded corners, again, rectangular rather than square.
> Both have been on the shelves for ages and are nothing to make news.
>
>
> --Lia
>
The tops of the new ones are also square and the pour spout appears to
be slightly recessed. They are rectangular as you say but the drive by
media calls it square. The video shows them stacked on pallets and
shrink wrapped. I would say that is an improvement over the square jug
holders that require a lot of cleaning before reuse.

Julia Altshuler wrote:
>
> I've just spent several minutes googling (web and images) and am certain
> I'm missing something.
>
> Would someone post a pointer to a picture of the new container, please?
> (An ordinary still shot, not a video. I don't do video on this computer.)
>
> The ones I'm finding look ordinary to me, either regular cardboard
> cartons that I'd call rectangular rather than square, or plastic bottles
> with roughly rounded corners, again, rectangular rather than square.
> Both have been on the shelves for ages and are nothing to make news.
>
> --Lia

This isn't exactly the best photo, but at least it's a depiction:
http://baptiste.us/wp-content/images/posts/jug2.jpg

I used the search string "plastic square jug milk gallon new costco"
(without the quote symbols) in the Google Images area.

Sky

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George wrote:

> Its to maximize the amount of product that can be shipped/stored etc in
> a given volume. High fuel prices cause a lot of rethinking. I walked by
> the liquid detergent aisle the other day and they had some significant
> signage declaring everything is now 2x concentrated. Costs a lot of
> money to ship watered down detergent so now they are leaving half the
> water out.

Weight is the major factor in shipping costs, not volume. I have been buying
my household goods lately from a health and wellness company that ships
concentrated products so cut down on shipping costs. They send jugs of
concentrated products and applicators so you can dilute them for use at home.

jmcquown wrote:

> Are you supposed to dilute the product first? I haven't looked at bottled
> liquid laundry detergent in a while.
>

I buy a brand of laundry detergent that is concentrated. For regular washers
you use only 3 tbsp of detergent, and the product for my new front loader uses
only half that amount.

Sky wrote:
>
> This isn't exactly the best photo, but at least it's a depiction:
> http://baptiste.us/wp-content/images/posts/jug2.jpg
>
> I used the search string "plastic square jug milk gallon new costco"
> (without the quote symbols) in the Google Images area.


Thanks. It looks a little different but not wildly so. I can see that
being able to pack the milk jugs into a refrigerated truck would help
with the fuel cost of the refrigeration.


It's the same principle we use at home when we leave a bag of ice in an
otherwise not full freezer. Each time the door is opened, cold air
rushes out, hot air rushes in, and the refrigerator has to use energy to
make it cold again. If the freezer is packed full, that happens on a
much lower scale.


It must be the same with milk on a refrigerated truck. If all the
needs-to-be-kept-cold stuff is kept packed tightly together in one
place, it can stay colder as the truck makes its rounds. Also, if one
truck can hold more bottles of milk, then of course, you don't need 2
trucks to deliver the same amount of milk.


--Lia

jmcquown wrote:
> mequeenbe.nospam wrote:
>> George wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Its to maximize the amount of product that can be shipped/stored etc
>>> in a given volume. High fuel prices cause a lot of rethinking. I
>>> walked by the liquid detergent aisle the other day and they had some
>>> significant signage declaring everything is now 2x concentrated.
>>> Costs a lot of money to ship watered down detergent so now they are
>>> leaving half the water out.
>>
>> be careful with the new stuff, we got some and i used half a cap for a
>> load of clothes, and had to rinse the clothes three extra times to get
>> all of the suds out! next time i'll use even less product.
>>
>> harriet & critters is cooler azusa
>
>
> Are you supposed to dilute the product first? I haven't looked at
> bottled liquid laundry detergent in a while.
>
> Jill

Just use less. I think people get used to dumping a certain volume in
and unconsciously think that a lesser quantity would work. Likely why
the stuff is made in such a wasteful diluted fashion requiring big jugs
for all of the water. It is pretty likely that the current "2x
concentrated" stuff could easily be further concentrated by a factor of
8. I imagine that would give some exciting results if someone dumped a
"normal" quantity of 16x into their washer.

Nancy Young wrote:
> Sheldon wrote:
>
>> Why not just buy powdered milk/detergent?
>
> I am *not* buying powdered milk.
>
> nancy

Me either, or that plastic space crap "coffee creamer".

On Jul 1, 6:59*am, Kajikit > wrote:
>
> ... in the NYT yesterday... what I don't get is
> how they say that the milk will be 'fresher' because it takes a few
> hours less to package it it up and deliver it to the stores - but
> they'll only be delivering milk to the store once a week instead of
> every second day... seems to me that it'll only be 'fresher' if you
> get to it on the day it's delivered, otherwise it'll be just the same
> or older!

You're applying logic to a sales pitch? How dare you! -aem

On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 10:46:28 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>jmcquown wrote:
>
>> Are you supposed to dilute the product first? I haven't looked at bottled
>> liquid laundry detergent in a while.
>>
>
>I buy a brand of laundry detergent that is concentrated. For regular washers
>you use only 3 tbsp of detergent, and the product for my new front loader uses
>only half that amount.

Front loaders are the only way to do. You only need a splash of soap.
Bleach is almost never needed. A gallon of bleach lasts us at least a
year. Even my white socks get cleaner without bleach than they did in
the old top loader with bleach.

Lou

George Shirley wrote:

> We used to buy irradiated liter containers of milk that didn't need
> refrigeration until opened. We lived in the Middle East for several
> years and our milk came out of the Netherlands. Tasted okay to me and
> was easy enough to cook with.

And then Islamic guerillas blew up the milk pipelines in the name of
jihadism.


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jmcquown wrote:

> mequeenbe.nospam wrote:
>> George wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Its to maximize the amount of product that can be shipped/stored etc
>>> in a given volume. High fuel prices cause a lot of rethinking. I
>>> walked by the liquid detergent aisle the other day and they had some
>>> significant signage declaring everything is now 2x concentrated.
>>> Costs a lot of money to ship watered down detergent so now they are
>>> leaving half the water out.
>>
>> be careful with the new stuff, we got some and i used half a cap for a
>> load of clothes, and had to rinse the clothes three extra times to get
>> all of the suds out! next time i'll use even less product.
>>
>> harriet & critters is cooler azusa
>
>
> Are you supposed to dilute the product first? I haven't looked at bottled
> liquid laundry detergent in a while.

Dillute it before you dump it in a tub of water?


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Nancy Young wrote:

>> I haven't seen (looked for) the square milk containers. What sort of
>> pour spout do they have? What would make pouring the milk so
>> difficult? I'm imagining something akin to the cartons of chicken
>> broth; no trouble pouring that stuff out without spilling it.
>
> I don't know. I noticed them practicing how to pour it on Good Morning
> America, so I guess there's an issue.

I guess it was a slow news day.


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Nancy Young wrote:
> I was in Costco yesterday and came across a strange
> sight ... palettes of milk sitting outside the cooler. I did
> a double take to see that it really was milk without it clicking that
> something was odd about it. Odd enough for me to think, is that really
> milk? if that makes any sense.
>
> It's the new square containers. Seems they cost less to ship, and use
> less labor somehow, saving some 15 cents
> a container.
> nancy


It was on all the news shows yesterday. I was OK with it until they
showed how sloppy it is to pour. We don't buy milk by the gallon
these days anyway. It always sours before the two of us finish it.

gloria p

Sheldon wrote:

>
> All this just proves that milk is best served from its natural
> container.
>


But how do you get the cow to stay on the table?

gloria p

Lou Decruss wrote:

>
>
> Front loaders are the only way to do. You only need a splash of soap.
> Bleach is almost never needed. A gallon of bleach lasts us at least a
> year. Even my white socks get cleaner without bleach than they did in
> the old top loader with bleach.
>

They also use a heck of a lot less water, a bonus around here because my well
usually runs dry by June and then I have to have water trucked in for the cistern.
Perhaps not this year. Apparently we had a lot of rain while I was away for two
weeks and then it rained three times since I got home. The well is almost full.

Blinky the Shark wrote:

> Nancy Young wrote:
>
>>> I haven't seen (looked for) the square milk containers. What sort of
>>> pour spout do they have? What would make pouring the milk so
>>> difficult? I'm imagining something akin to the cartons of chicken
>>> broth; no trouble pouring that stuff out without spilling it.
>>
>> I don't know. I noticed them practicing how to pour it on Good Morning
>> America, so I guess there's an issue.
>
> I guess it was a slow news day.
>
>
LOL.

We've had something very similar here for years, but I only see the 1 or 2
liter size containers in our stores. The picture that was posted looked a
bit bigger - dunno. We get both the 'square' and 'rectangular' shapes. The
latter 2 liter containers are a PITA because they don't fit nicely in the
standard fridge door shelving size we get - you have to put them
in 'sideways' or they don't fit - so they take up more space...
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On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 10:27:41 -0600, Gloria P >
wrote:

>Sheldon wrote:
>
>>
>> All this just proves that milk is best served from its natural
>> container.
>>
>
>
>But how do you get the cow to stay on the table?

30 years ago a few lines of coke worked. Things may have changed.

Lou

On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 07:12:10 -0500, George Shirley
> wrote:

>Nancy Young wrote:
>> I was in Costco yesterday and came across a strange
>> sight ... palettes of milk sitting outside the cooler. I did
>> a double take to see that it really was milk without it clicking that
>> something was odd about it. Odd enough for me to think, is that really
>> milk? if that makes any sense.
>>
>> It's the new square containers. Seems they cost less to ship, and use
>> less labor somehow, saving some 15 cents
>> a container.
>> nancy
>Let's see, when I was a boy in the forties and fifties, milk came in
>round glass bottles, a little later it came in square waxed cardboard
>containers, still later yet it came in round plastic or square plastic
>containers. (Well, sort of square, the squares had rounded corners.) Now
>it's going back to square containers.
>

I'm totally confused. Got a visual? How are Nancy's square
containers different from the square containers with rounded corners?
Are her corners actually 90° angles, like the waxed cardboard box? If
the containers are perfect squares, how is it poured?

>It's a conspiracy by the big milk producers to get us to buy more milk.
>Yeah, that's it.

Size is always the conspiracy (Supersize? No, I want small). I want
to buy a 1/2 pint of buttermilk. It only comes in quarts and no local
grocery I've checked carries powdered buttermilk anymore.



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"Gloria P" > wrote in message
. ..
> Sheldon wrote:
>
>>
>> All this just proves that milk is best served from its natural
>> container.
>>
>
>
> But how do you get the cow to stay on the table?
>
> gloria p

LOL.....


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