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I've seen an ad and we're thinking about buying one. Are they worth it? Are
they safe? We've never used one before, and the idea of a cooked meal in 10mins appeals to me :-) http://www.pressurecooker.com.au/About%20Us.html -- Peter Lucas Brisbane Australia If we are not meant to eat animals, why are they made of meat? |
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"PeterLucas" wrote
> I've seen an ad and we're thinking about buying one. Are they worth it? > Are > they safe? Safe if used properly. > We've never used one before, and the idea of a cooked meal in 10mins > appeals to me :-) Although they can be a good timesaver, it's not like you load it and have food 10 mins later. You have to first heat it to pressure level and *then* it's 10 mins cooking time, then you have to let it cool to reduce the pressure before you can eat. I have a simple one. Took 10 mins to hit pressure, and 10 too cool off on a so called '8 minute recipe'. In that specific case, the stove top alone was faster than 30 mins to use a pressure cooker. |
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PeterLucas wrote:
> I've seen an ad and we're thinking about buying one. Are they worth it? Are > they safe? Yes, and yes. The old-fashioned ones weren't as safe, but the new generation of pressure-cookers are a whole different beast. > > We've never used one before, and the idea of a cooked meal in 10mins > appeals to me :-) Well, that's certainly not going to be your average cooking time, especially if you include the times coming up to pressure and releasing pressure, but yeah, much faster than stovetop or oven. I can do a fork-tender pot roast in about 50 minutes at high pressure; potatoes take 5 minutes; wheatberries, which take a couple hours on the stove, take about 35 minutes in the cooker. And so on. A great place to get pressure-cooker info is missvickie.com Serene -- "I think I have an umami receptor that has developed sentience." -- Stef |
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On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 02:58:02 +0000 (UTC), PeterLucas wrote:
> I've seen an ad and we're thinking about buying one. Are they worth it? Are > they safe? Gee, nobody's ever asked that before. At least not today, that is. Maybe if you weren't so busy blabbing all your off-topic trash you might have learned something. |
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On Jul 1, 7:58�pm, PeterLucas > wrote:
> I've seen an ad and we're thinking about buying one. > Are they worth it? Are they safe? Ask Om, if you can find her. She thinks they're swell. I have a mental picture of her with her pressure cooker, chicken feet, guns and ammo. |
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KevinS > wrote:
> On Jul 1, 7:58�pm, PeterLucas > wrote: > > > I've seen an ad and we're thinking about buying one. > > Are they worth it? Are they safe? > > Ask Om, if you can find her. She thinks they're swell. > I have a mental picture of her with her pressure cooker, > chicken feet, guns and ammo. And a deep fryer! ![]() Jill |
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"jmcquown" > wrote in
: > KevinS > wrote: >> On Jul 1, 7:58�pm, PeterLucas > wrote: >> >> > I've seen an ad and we're thinking about buying one. >> > Are they worth it? Are they safe? >> >> Ask Om, if you can find her. She thinks they're swell. >> I have a mental picture of her with her pressure cooker, >> chicken feet, guns and ammo. > > > And a deep fryer! ![]() > > Jill > > And you've never deep fried anything?? -- Peter Lucas Brisbane Australia If we are not meant to eat animals, why are they made of meat? |
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PeterLucas wrote:
> I've seen an ad and we're thinking about buying one. Are they worth it? > Are they safe? > > We've never used one before, and the idea of a cooked meal in 10mins > appeals to me :-) Never been a fan of pressure cookers myself. However, Dad likes his, and uses it here a lot. In fact, he made a rather good goulash in it yesterday. It hasn't blown up (yet) <lol> and it's pretty old - so I reckon they must be safer than I thought... -- Cheers Chatty Cathy Egg tastes better when it's not on your face... |
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On 2008-07-02, KevinS > wrote:
> I have a mental picture of her with her pressure cooker, > chicken feet, guns and ammo. I like it! ![]() nb |
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PeterLucas > wrote:
> "jmcquown" > wrote in > : > > > KevinS > wrote: > > > On Jul 1, 7:58�pm, PeterLucas > wrote: > > > > > > > I've seen an ad and we're thinking about buying one. > > > > Are they worth it? Are they safe? > > > > > > Ask Om, if you can find her. She thinks they're swell. > > > I have a mental picture of her with her pressure cooker, > > > chicken feet, guns and ammo. > > > > > > And a deep fryer! ![]() > > > > And you've never deep fried anything?? Did I say that? No, I did not. I just remember OM getting all excited about her new deep fryer. She was deep frying everything in sight! I haven't deep fried anything in about 10 years (used a "wok pan" to deep fry breaded sliced yellow squash). I don't own a deep fryer; I haven't had one since I nixed my "Fry Daddy" around 1986. Jill |
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ChattyCathy > wrote:
> PeterLucas wrote: > > > I've seen an ad and we're thinking about buying one. Are they worth > > it? Are they safe? > > > > We've never used one before, and the idea of a cooked meal in 10mins > > appeals to me :-) > > Never been a fan of pressure cookers myself. However, Dad likes his, > and uses it here a lot. In fact, he made a rather good goulash in it > yesterday. It hasn't blown up (yet) <lol> and it's pretty old - so I > reckon they must be safer than I thought... Mom still has one I remember from when I was a small child. Wouldn't trust it as far as I could throw it. I gather they are a bit safer these days than the 1960 models ![]() Jill |
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"jmcquown" > wrote in
: > PeterLucas > wrote: >> "jmcquown" > wrote in >> : >> >> > KevinS > wrote: >> > > On Jul 1, 7:58�pm, PeterLucas > wrote: >> > > >> > > > I've seen an ad and we're thinking about buying one. >> > > > Are they worth it? Are they safe? >> > > >> > > Ask Om, if you can find her. She thinks they're swell. >> > > I have a mental picture of her with her pressure cooker, >> > > chicken feet, guns and ammo. >> > >> > >> > And a deep fryer! ![]() >> > >> >> And you've never deep fried anything?? > > Did I say that? No, I did not. I just remember OM getting all > excited about her new deep fryer. She was deep frying everything in > sight! > > I haven't deep fried anything in about 10 years (used a "wok pan" to > deep fry breaded sliced yellow squash). I don't own a deep fryer; I > haven't had one since I nixed my "Fry Daddy" around 1986. > Methinks she doth protest too much. -- Peter Lucas Brisbane Australia If we are not meant to eat animals, why are they made of meat? |
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"jmcquown" > wrote in
: > PeterLucas > wrote: >> "jmcquown" > wrote in >> : >> >> > KevinS > wrote: >> > > On Jul 1, 7:58�pm, PeterLucas > wrote: >> > > >> > > > I've seen an ad and we're thinking about buying one. >> > > > Are they worth it? Are they safe? >> > > >> > > Ask Om, if you can find her. She thinks they're swell. >> > > I have a mental picture of her with her pressure cooker, >> > > chicken feet, guns and ammo. >> > >> > >> > And a deep fryer! ![]() >> > OK. What's your 'mental' picture of me? Enquiring minds would like to know. -- Peter Lucas Brisbane Australia If we are not meant to eat animals, why are they made of meat? |
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notbob > wrote in
: > On 2008-07-02, KevinS > wrote: > >> I have a mental picture of her with her pressure cooker, >> chicken feet, guns and ammo. > > I like it! ![]() > > nb OK, so we've established that you're a kinky *******. Got a good recipe for the feet? -- Peter Lucas Brisbane Australia If we are not meant to eat animals, why are they made of meat? |
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ChattyCathy > wrote in
: > PeterLucas wrote: > >> I've seen an ad and we're thinking about buying one. Are they worth >> it? Are they safe? >> >> We've never used one before, and the idea of a cooked meal in 10mins >> appeals to me :-) > > Never been a fan of pressure cookers myself. However, Dad likes his, > and uses it here a lot. In fact, he made a rather good goulash in it > yesterday. It hasn't blown up (yet) <lol> and it's pretty old - so I > reckon they must be safer than I thought... Hmmmmmm, the SO is a tad ambivalent about us acquiring one. She seems to recall exploding food etc, etc, from her childhood days. For me it'll be another experience. I've never tried it before. And you really should try most things 'connected' to your life at least once. -- Peter Lucas Brisbane Australia If we are not meant to eat animals, why are they made of meat? |
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Nobody > wrote in
: > On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 02:58:02 +0000 (UTC), PeterLucas wrote: > >> I've seen an ad and we're thinking about buying one. Are they worth >> it? Are they safe? > > Gee, nobody's ever asked that before. Haven't you? Silly you then. > At least not today, that is. Is that as far back as your fading memory goes? > > Maybe if you weren't so busy blabbing all your off-topic trash you > might have learned something. And here I am, "on topic"...... and all you want to do is bitch and whine..... and not offer any advice whatsoever. I think this is a case of '**** you, noddy'........ Oops, that should be '**** you, nobody'........... either way, you're a nobody. -- Peter Lucas Brisbane Australia If we are not meant to eat animals, why are they made of meat? |
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On 2008-07-02, PeterLucas > wrote:
>>> I have a mental picture of her with her pressure cooker, >>> chicken feet, guns and ammo. >> >> I like it! ![]() > Got a good recipe for the feet? Well, I was focusing more on the other three, not being one who normally eats food parts that spend most of their pre-demise time wading around in crap. But, I'm also open to suggestion. Whatever you do with them, I'm sure they will cook faster in a P/C. fYou might do a grougle search for chicken feet on rfc, as I seem to recall a rather long discussion of their merits some time back. nb |
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PeterLucas wrote:
> I've seen an ad and we're thinking about buying one. Are they worth it? Are > they safe? > > We've never used one before, and the idea of a cooked meal in 10mins > appeals to me :-) > > > http://www.pressurecooker.com.au/About%20Us.html > > > Pressure cookers are great for some things (Pot roasts, stuffed cabbage for example). As for the cooking times...Figure it will cut the time down by about 1/2 when you factor in bringing it up to pressure and waiting for the pressure to go back down so the pot is safe to open. You can reduce the cool down time by setting the pot in the sink and running cold water over it until the pressure As for safety, they are perfectly safe provided you follow a couple of simple rules.. 1) Never, ever open the pot while it is under pressure - Modern pressure cookers have a safety interlock that prevents you from doing this. 2) Never, ever remove the pressure weight from the steam vent stem while the pot is under pressure. At a minimum you will end up with your meal pureed all over your ceiling at worse, some third degree burns from the steam. And one more, 3) Make sure the steam vent is free from obstructions and that all of safety valves and seals are in good repair. My mom used a pressure cooker for over 50 years without mishap and this was one from the pre-safety feature days...I've continued to use the same one since her death several years ago. Other than the above, the only caution I can think of is that you buy one made by a reputable manufacture. Enjoy, George |
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George Cebulka > wrote in news:g4g99c$plt$1
@usenet01.srv.cis.pitt.edu: > Other than the above, the only caution I can think of is that you buy > one made by a reputable manufacture. > > Enjoy, > George > > And inspect the gasket on every use. -- The house of the burning beet-Alan |
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On 2008-07-02, George Cebulka > wrote:
> As for safety, they are perfectly safe provided you follow a couple > of simple rules.. > 1) Never, ever open the pot while it is under pressure - Modern > pressure cookers have a safety interlock that prevents you from doing this. > 2) Never, ever remove the pressure weight from the steam vent stem > while the pot is under pressure. At a minimum you will end up with your > meal pureed all over your ceiling at worse, some third degree burns from > the steam. > And one more, > 3) Make sure the steam vent is free from obstructions and that all > of safety valves and seals are in good repair. > Other than the above, the only caution I can think of is that you buy > one made by a reputable manufacture. All good advice, George, but you forgot a one biggie ....DO NOT overfill the cooker! IOW, do not fill the pressure cooker too full or the cooked ingredients may expand to the point where they interfere with one of the safety valves. All P/Cs have very detailed instructions on their use, so read the manual carefullly and follow saftey guidlines and you should never have a problem. nb |
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PeterLucas wrote:
> I've seen an ad and we're thinking about buying one. Are they worth it? Are > they safe? > > We've never used one before, and the idea of a cooked meal in 10mins > appeals to me :-) > > > http://www.pressurecooker.com.au/About%20Us.html > > > Actually, after looking at the prices on the web site, you could save a lot of money by buying one at the Australia equivalent of Wal-Mart, Sears or Target. You should be able to get a nice basic one for under $75 US. I'd opt for a stainless steel one via aluminum one. Aluminum will react with acidic foods IIRC. |
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notbob wrote:
> On 2008-07-02, George Cebulka > wrote: > >> As for safety, they are perfectly safe provided you follow a couple >> of simple rules.. >> 1) Never, ever open the pot while it is under pressure - Modern >> pressure cookers have a safety interlock that prevents you from doing this. >> 2) Never, ever remove the pressure weight from the steam vent stem >> while the pot is under pressure. At a minimum you will end up with your >> meal pureed all over your ceiling at worse, some third degree burns from >> the steam. >> And one more, >> 3) Make sure the steam vent is free from obstructions and that all >> of safety valves and seals are in good repair. > >> Other than the above, the only caution I can think of is that you buy >> one made by a reputable manufacture. > > All good advice, George, but you forgot a one biggie ....DO NOT overfill the > cooker! IOW, do not fill the pressure cooker too full or the cooked > ingredients may expand to the point where they interfere with one of the > safety valves. All P/Cs have very detailed instructions on their use, so > read the manual carefullly and follow saftey guidlines and you should never > have a problem. > > nb Good Catch and very good advice. The reason for this is that the steam vent could become obstructed, causing the safety seal to blow out causing your food to end up pureed all over your ceiling (and wall depending on the lid design) in addition to the burn factor. Here is a good basic recipe for a pressure cooking newbie. 1 2-3 lb tough cut of meat type roast salt, pepper to taste small onion bit of garlic bay leaf whatever other seasonings you like with a roast 1/2 cup of water ( you may want to add a bit more water, but you shouldn't need more that a cup. You want to steam, not boil the meat) Brown the roast put roast on rack in the pot dump in the water add seasonings lightly oil the lid gasket (prevents sticking) put the lid on the pot, put the seam weight on the steam stem. Turn the heat on medium until the weight starts to rock and rattle then cut the heat back until the weight is gently rocking cook for 1 hour, turn off the heat and let the pressure go down. At this point you should have a nice, tender roast. |
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> > PeterLucas > wrote:
> > > "jmcquown" > wrote in > > > : > > > > > What's your 'mental' picture of me? > I don't have one. Jill |
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notbob > wrote:
> On 2008-07-02, PeterLucas > wrote: > > > > > I have a mental picture of her with her pressure cooker, > > > > chicken feet, guns and ammo. > > > > > > I like it! ![]() > > > Got a good recipe for the feet? > > Well, I was focusing more on the other three, not being one who > normally eats food parts that spend most of their pre-demise time > wading around in crap. But, I'm also open to suggestion. Whatever > you do with them, I'm sure they will cook faster in a P/C. > > fYou might do a grougle search for chicken feet on rfc, as I seem to > recall a rather long discussion of their merits some time back. > > nb I believe they are supposed to contribute nicely to rich chicken stock. Jill |
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"George Cebulka" wrote
> Here is a good basic recipe for a pressure cooking newbie. > > 1 2-3 lb tough cut of meat type roast > salt, pepper to taste > small onion > bit of garlic > bay leaf > whatever other seasonings you like with a roast > 1/2 cup of water ( you may want to add a bit more water, but you shouldn't > need more that a cup. You want to steam, not boil the meat) Decent pick. Also note Peter is in OZ. Peter, I'm told by my Aussie friends that Roo does really well in a pressure cooker as does lamb (hogget or mutton to you). For the Roo tail, you may want to use a beef broth vs water and add a little fat. |
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On 2008-07-02, jmcquown > wrote:
> I believe they are supposed to contribute nicely to rich chicken stock. I seem to recall that's what I got out of that thread, too, Jill. Good for chicken brothy flavor with lotsa gelatin. I still haven't tried it, there being virtually zero chicken feet suppliers, hereabouts. Lips are even rarer. ![]() nb |
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PeterLucas wrote:
> > I've seen an ad and we're thinking about buying one. > Are they worth it? Are they safe? No, they're very dangerous. They're all made by companies that you can't sue because they're in China. Most of the people who buy them are smokers, so the relative risk is not that high. Do you smoke? If so, don't worry about the risk. Just enjoy, while you can. :-) |
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notbob wrote:
> On 2008-07-02, jmcquown > wrote: > >> I believe they are supposed to contribute nicely to rich chicken stock. > > I seem to recall that's what I got out of that thread, too, Jill. Good > for > chicken brothy flavor with lotsa gelatin. I still haven't tried it, there > being virtually zero chicken feet suppliers, hereabouts. Lips are even > rarer. ![]() Ahem. The lips are right next to the hens' teeth in our stupid markets, IIRC :-) -- Cheers Chatty Cathy Egg tastes better when it's not on your face... |
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On Jul 1, 7:58*pm, PeterLucas > wrote:
> I've seen an ad and we're thinking about buying one. Are they worth it? Pressure cooking is a specialty. Done badly your stews will be mushy, your vegetables will be extremely overcooked, your soups will lack texture. So if you buy one, take the time and make the effort to learn how to do it well. Look at the recipes on the website you provided, for example. Some of them look like recipes for (culinary) disaster to me. > Are they safe? Are you a careful, methodical person who routinely pays attention to details? Then they're safe. Are you not? They're not. -aem |
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"aem" wrote
>Pressure cooking is a specialty. Done badly your stews will be mushy, >your vegetables will be extremely overcooked, your soups will lack >texture. So if you buy one, take the time and make the effort to >learn how to do it well. Look at the recipes on the website you >provided, for example. Some of them look like recipes for (culinary) >disaster to me. Same for crockpots (slow cookers) of which I am a specialist. The difference is I can add a veggie 'midway in the cooking' but with a pressure cooker that's not gonna happen while at pressure. I have a pressure canner for small jobs, but find it useless for any other sort of cookery for *my* habits. |
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On Jul 2, 11:06*am, "cshenk" > wrote:
> "aem" wrote > > >Pressure cooking is a specialty. *Done badly your stews will be mushy, > >your vegetables will be extremely overcooked, your soups will lack > >texture. *So if you buy one, take the time and make the effort to > >learn how to do it well. *Look at the recipes on the website you > >provided, for example. *Some of them look like recipes for (culinary) > >disaster to me. > > Same for crockpots (slow cookers) of which I am a specialist. *The > difference is I can add a veggie 'midway in the cooking' but with a pressure > cooker that's not gonna happen while at pressure. > Yes, the pitfalls of misuse seem similar to me. The struggle to get crockpotters to learn how to use their appliance well was lost long ago, save for a small minority. Perhaps there is still hope for pressure cookers. -aem |
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cshenk wrote:
> > Same for crockpots (slow cookers) of which I am a specialist. The > difference is I can add a veggie 'midway in the cooking' but with > a pressure cooker that's not gonna happen while at pressure. That gives me an idea for a new invention: a pressure cooker with a little airlock door, so you _can_ add vegetables (or anything else) during cooking without losing the pressure. |
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PeterLucas > wrote in
.25: > I've seen an ad and we're thinking about buying one. Are they worth > it? Are they safe? > > We've never used one before, and the idea of a cooked meal in 10mins > appeals to me :-) > > > http://www.pressurecooker.com.au/About%20Us.html > > > They are nice for thigns like beans which you can get done in no time. Just need to be carful because at least in my experience things can go from "done" to "baby food" in no time. I love to use moine for mashed potatoes too. Done in no time. |
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In article >,
George Cebulka > wrote: > waiting for the pressure to go back down so the pot is safe to open. You > can reduce the cool down time by setting the pot in the sink and running > cold water over it until the pressure > George For some things, though, you're supposed to let the pressure drop naturally. I'd follow the manual until I was comfortable with using it. I've used one for at least 30 years without incident. Mine's a Presto with a fixed-pressure weight. -- -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ Huffy and Bubbles Do France: http://www.jamlady.eboard.com |
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In article >,
notbob > wrote: > All good advice, George, but you forgot a one biggie ....DO NOT overfill the > cooker! IOW, do not fill the pressure cooker too full or the cooked > ingredients may expand to the point where they interfere with one of the > safety valves. All P/Cs have very detailed instructions on their use, so > read the manual carefullly and follow saftey guidlines and you should never > have a problem. > > nb Hear, hear!! -- -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ Huffy and Bubbles Do France: http://www.jamlady.eboard.com |
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Mark Thorson wrote:
> cshenk wrote: >> Same for crockpots (slow cookers) of which I am a specialist. The >> difference is I can add a veggie 'midway in the cooking' but with >> a pressure cooker that's not gonna happen while at pressure. > > That gives me an idea for a new invention: a pressure > cooker with a little airlock door, so you _can_ add > vegetables (or anything else) during cooking without > losing the pressure. Why bother? Just stick the pot under cold running water, lower the pressure. open the lid, add whatever, put the lid back on, put it back on the heat and bring the pressure back up..Not as easy as taking the lid off of a crockpot, but, not impossible either. |
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cshenk wrote:
> "aem" wrote > >> Pressure cooking is a specialty. Done badly your stews will be mushy, >> your vegetables will be extremely overcooked, your soups will lack >> texture. So if you buy one, take the time and make the effort to >> learn how to do it well. Look at the recipes on the website you >> provided, for example. Some of them look like recipes for (culinary) >> disaster to me. > > Same for crockpots (slow cookers) of which I am a specialist. The > difference is I can add a veggie 'midway in the cooking' but with a pressure > cooker that's not gonna happen while at pressure. > > I have a pressure canner for small jobs, but find it useless for any other > sort of cookery for *my* habits. > > So what is the difference between a pressure cooker and a pressure canner? |
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Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> In article >, > George Cebulka > wrote: > >> waiting for the pressure to go back down so the pot is safe to open. You >> can reduce the cool down time by setting the pot in the sink and running >> cold water over it until the pressure >> George > > For some things, though, you're supposed to let the pressure drop > naturally. I'd follow the manual until I was comfortable with using it. > I've used one for at least 30 years without incident. Mine's a Presto > with a fixed-pressure weight. > True. My mom never used the cool by water method. When she saw me do it, she would get one of those stern thin lipped " I AM NOT AMUSED" look of disapproval on her face.... ![]() |
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On 2008-07-02, George Cebulka > wrote:
> Melba's Jammin' wrote: >> For some things, though, you're supposed to let the pressure drop >> naturally. I'd follow the manual until I was comfortable with using it. > > True. My mom never used the cool by water method. When she saw me do it, > she would get one of those stern thin lipped " I AM NOT AMUSED" look of > disapproval on her face.... ![]() Heh.... I'm not sure of the why's and wherefores. My khun-rikon recommends to let cool naturally for some dishes, press button and manually release pressure for other recipes, and thirdly, the cold water immersion method for still other recipes. They don't say why. I suspect the cold water immersion works just fine for all recipes and its quick and easy if you have a sink and faucet that will let the P/C fit. Just douse with cold water and it takes about 10 secs to reduce the pressure to zero and remove lid. nb |
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notbob wrote:
> On 2008-07-02, George Cebulka > wrote: > >> As for safety, they are perfectly safe provided you follow a >> couple >> of simple rules.. >> 1) Never, ever open the pot while it is under pressure - Modern >> pressure cookers have a safety interlock that prevents you from >> doing this. 2) Never, ever remove the pressure weight from the >> steam vent stem >> while the pot is under pressure. At a minimum you will end up with >> your meal pureed all over your ceiling at worse, some third degree >> burns from the steam. >> And one more, >> 3) Make sure the steam vent is free from obstructions and that >> all >> of safety valves and seals are in good repair. > >> Other than the above, the only caution I can think of is that you buy >> one made by a reputable manufacture. > > All good advice, George, but you forgot a one biggie ....DO NOT > overfill the cooker! IOW, do not fill the pressure cooker too full > or the cooked ingredients may expand to the point where they > interfere with one of the safety valves. All P/Cs have very detailed > instructions on their use, so read the manual carefullly and follow > saftey guidlines and you should never have a problem. > > nb Just what I was going to say. . .read and follow the manual directions and recipes. do not overfill. Janet |
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