(Victor Sack) wrote in news:1ijh7ix.16540k8w21iysN%
:

> The Ranger > wrote:
>
>> Victor Sack > wrote
>> > Citron pressé in a Parisian café.
>>
>> Fresh-squeezed lemonade in a coffee press? Why you dissin' the
>> lemon pulp?
>
> No coffee press involved. Citron pressé, as typically served (and easy
> to reproduce at home), is freshly-pressed lemon juice in a tall glass,
a
> pitcher of iced or chilled water, powdered sugar, and a long-handled
> spoon. You make your own lemonade to your taste. When the weather is
> cold, you might prefer to order or make citron pressé chaud, hot lemon,
> served exactly the same way, except that the water is hot.
>
>> > Cold buttermilk, kefir, or ayran. [..]
>>
>> Ew! That's just to much...
>
> You do not like cultured or fermented milk-based beverages? Do you
also
> eschew lassi?
>
> Victor
>

hot/warm lemonade requires honey as a sweetener. It is a law.

--

The house of the burning beet-Alan

blake murphy wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 18:22:21 -0400, "Kswck" >
> wrote:
>
>> "Sheldon" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> On Jul 2, 10:10?am, "Michael \"Dog3\"" > wrote:
>>> "l, not -l"
>>> fdc.sbc.com:in
>>> rec.food.cooking
>>>
>>>> I used to drink the "lemonade" on occasion, then I noticed the film
>>>> that was deposited on the glass after it was emptied; I decided if it
>>>> left the film inisde the glass, I didn't think it could be doing
>>>> anything good inside me. Now, when I want lemonade, I make it with
>>>> bottled lemon juice and Splenda; it may not be as good as if made with
>>>> fresh lemons, but it superior to any powdered version I've had and
>>>> nearly as simple to make.
>>> I'm weird with the bottled lemon juice also. It has a metallic taste to
>>> me.
>>> I use it in recipes when it's called for,
>> I've never seen any recipe that calls for reconstituted bottled lemon
>> juice rather than fresh squeezed.
>>
>> But lemons around Lung Guyland are now about a buck a piece in the
>> stupidmarket. So the bottled stuff is a way cheaper sub.
>>
>
> you should try the minute maid frozen lemon juice:
>
> <http://www.aviglatt.com/Product_7216.html>
>
> it will be cheaper than lemons (and cheaper than shown here), and
> much, much better than the realemon stuff. i pay $1.79 for a 7.5 oz
> bottle (seven-odd lemons worth of juice).
>
> it's good stuff.
>
> your pal,
> blake
> ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

I wonder whether that ever showed up around here. I looked for it
years ago, with no success. Thanks for the reminder!

--
Jean B.

On Jul 2, 4:26Â*pm, Sheldon > wrote:
> On Jul 2, 5:40�pm, "Nexis" > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Sheldon" > wrote in message
>
> ....
>
> > Blinky the Shark wrote:
> > > Michael "Dog3" wrote:
> > > > Sheldon writes:
>
> > > >> What's expensive... lemons at my local market cost 59 cents each....
> > > >> you can easily slice one into six wedges, eight wedges if you're
> > > >> Jewish. ?And my local market is pricey... but last week I was at Sam's
> > > >> Club, a mesh bag of a dozen lemons or limes cost $2.99... I got a bag
> > > >> of limes... that's 72 wedges at a nickle each, how much cheaper you
> > > >> lookin'? ?I've been splurging by slicing them into quarters, or they'd
> > > >> dry out before I use them all. ?Lemon's ain't expensive, seltzer is
> > > >> what's expensive.
>
> > > > Those lemons at Sam's Club are a bargain IMO. Now and then I'll buy a
> > > > bag
> > > > and wind up making a bunch of lemon bars before the lemons shrivel up
> > > > and
> > > > die ?And those baking potatoes... Oy...
>
> > >> What, you guys don't have lemon (and orange) trees in your yards?! ?
> > >What, yoose don't have apple and pear trees in your yards? hehe
> > >Um, do deer chomp citrus... they sure nuff do apples and pears.
> > >Early this AM:
> > >http://i25.tinypic.com/25gcgly.jpg
>
> > What area are you in, Sheldon? Looks beautiful...and makes me a little
> > homesick.
>
> > I don't know if deer chomp citrus, but I know they cleared almost all the
> > apples from the lower 2/3 of my aunt's sweet 16 apple tree while they were
> > out of town last fall! Too bad too, I wanted to get a bunch of them to make
> > apple butter.
>
> > I have a meyer lemon tree and an orange tree...but both have suffered from
> > the fires in recent years and haven't had too much fruit. I also had a white
> > nectarine tree that was killed by the smoke and ash.
>
> I'm in NY's northern Catskills. Â*I just planted some fruit trees but
> naturally everything I plant gets fenced or those deer show no mercy.
>
> My wildflower meadow is beginning to put on a show
> There's a fenced yellowwood tree and and two dawn redwoods:http://i27.tinypic.com/e12jgm.jpg
>
> Here you can see a fenced "Crimson King" Norway maple:http://i29.tinypic.com/2nu3pys.jpg
>
> My newly started fruit orchard, two plum, two apple so far,
> but I have plans to add more until I wear out the shovel:http://i29.tinypic.com/2wmkwex.jpg
>
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Beautiful!

Julia Altshuler wrote:
> Jean B. wrote:
>> Julia Altshuler wrote:
>>
>>> Not only that, I find it the funniest thing. I'll make some ordinary
>>> dish, lemon cookies or salad dressing. Someone will rave and ask me
>>> my secret. There's no secret, I reply. Just use fresh lemon juice
>>> and real lemon zest.
>>>
>>>
>>> The next thing I know, said friend will come back with her rendition
>>> of the same recipe. "It just doesn't turn out as well as yours. I'm
>>> no good at cooking. I don't have the talent. What's your secret?"
>>>
>>>
>>> "Did you use fresh lemon juice from lemons?"
>>>
>>>
>>> "Oh, yes. I have a bottle of lemon juice in the refrigerator and
>>> used that."
>>>
>>>
>>> --Lia
>>>
>> Ack! And I can envision that perfectly.
>
>
> There must be something special about our brand of non-cooking friends.
> I'm constantly being asked for my "secrets." I'm constantly giving
> them out for free: Use real butter. Use freshly grated ginger. Use
> freshly squeezed lemon juice. Cut the tops off of strawberries such
> that no green stem is left; don't just pluck the leaves off. That's
> about it. No other secrets, and I'll gladly shout those from the rooftops.
>
>
> And I'm constantly being told I'm a genius with un-mimickable "talent."
> I love compliments, but sheesh.
>
>
> --Lia
>
That's pretty funny--and they probably tell you how good their
ingredients and practices are!

--
Jean B.

Tracy wrote:

> Gregory Morrow wrote:
>
> >
> > Booze - wise I like vodka mixed with some Fresca or Diet 7-Up, with a
splash
> > of grapefruit juice...I get the very cheapest wodka to use at home with
> > these mixers, anything more expensive is a waste [I learned this from
> > Sheldon <vbg> ]. If I have company I'll get Smirnoff or Svedka on hand,
but
> > my guests often will bring a nice bottle of vodka. "Out" I'm partial to
> > Effen Black Cherry on the rocks, with Diet Coke as a side...
> >
> > [I can't believe the people I see out that order mixed vodka drinks with
the
> > most expensive vodka possible. Once you mix vodka with something,
whatever
> > high quality it had is greatly diminished by the mixer. Many don't
realise
> > this - they are wasting their dough but it's good for the bar owners...]
> >
> > A coupla times every summer I'll have a nice gin n' tonic with lotsa
> > lime...otherwise gin for me is gag - inducing, drinking gin in excess is
> > about the closest thing one can get to taking LSD...all the severest and
> > nuttiest alkies I encounter are gin drinkers.
> >
> > But mostly I drink ice water, and huge quantities of it. We have
excellent
> > water here in Chicawgo, plus it's certainly cheap...
> >
>
> I also enjoy vodka and Fresca on occasion. I am not really a soda
> drinker - and I really don't like diet soda but I do like Fresca. I top
> off my vodka (cheap brand of choice:Gordon) with a splash of diet
> cran-grape. But mostly I like gin and tonic. I am not a nutty alkie!
Really.
>


Okay, I'll take your word for it...

:-)

--
Best
Greg

Jean B. wrote:
>
> That's pretty funny--and they probably tell you how good their
> ingredients and practices are!


It's worse than that. They don't acknowledge a difference.
They'll admit that my finished products are better than theirs, but when
you point out that there's a difference between freshly squeezed lemon
juice and that from a bottle, they nod one second and think they're the
same thing the next.


--Lia

"Chile Fiend" > wrote in message
0.253...
> "Woolstitcher" > wrote in
> :
>
>>
>> "Chile Fiend" > wrote in message
>> .253...
>>>
>>> Chrysanthemum tea with minimal sugar/honey. Very light, very
>>> refresing and cooling.
>>
>> I love Chrysanthemum tea, I bought it a few times at Trader Joes, but
>> they no longer carry it. I can't seem to find it anywhere else.
>> Where do you buy yours?
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>
> In cans at a local store called Jungle Jim's, or I get teabags ar World
> Market and make my own by the pitcher.

darn, I was out by World Market today ... I didn't think to check there.
We don't have a Jungle Jims ... I have never seen one.
Thanks.

Julia Altshuler wrote:
> Jean B. wrote:
>>
>> That's pretty funny--and they probably tell you how good their
>> ingredients and practices are!
>
>
> It's worse than that. They don't acknowledge a difference.
> They'll admit that my finished products are better than theirs, but when
> you point out that there's a difference between freshly squeezed lemon
> juice and that from a bottle, they nod one second and think they're the
> same thing the next.
>
>
> --Lia
>
That's pathetic. One would wonder whether these folks had lost
the sense of taste, but then they recognize your renditions as
better. Odd.

--
Jean B.

hahabogus > wrote:

> hot/warm lemonade requires honey as a sweetener. It is a law.

The law is unconstitutional. Adding refrigerated or frozen honey to hot
or warm lemonade would make it lukewarm. Who wants to drink lukewarm
lemonade? There is no other option, as consuming unrefrigerated honey,
according to the greatest honey expert ever, who is, among other things,
a canonised saint, is mortally dangerous.

Victor

Michael "Dog3" wrote:
> "Jean B." > : in
> rec.food.cooking
>
>> I don't like the artificial sweeteners that are used in them. I
>> don't suppose they have switched to sucralose?
>
> I dunno. I seldom buy them so I'm not sure what they are using. For
> sweetener in coffee, teas etc. I've been using Splenda for about a year.
>
> Michael
>
Yes, I do use Splenda aka sucralose for that too. I don't know
whether I'll end up regretting that or not. Crystal Lite was )and
maybe is) using something else.

--
Jean B.

Michael \"Dog3\" wrote:

> "Jean B." > : in
> rec.food.cooking
>
> > I don't like the artificial sweeteners that are used in them. I
> > don't suppose they have switched to sucralose?
>
> I dunno. I seldom buy them so I'm not sure what they are using. For
> sweetener in coffee, teas etc. I've been using Splenda for about a year.

It's much easier to drink coffee and tea without sugar or sweetener. Years
ago I started reducing the amount of sugar I used in coffee until it got to
the point that I just couldn't get take out coffee with little enough for my
taste, so I just cut it out altogether.

Dave Smith wrote:
>
> It's much easier to drink coffee and tea without sugar or sweetener.
> Years ago I started reducing the amount of sugar I used in coffee
> until it got to the point that I just couldn't get take out coffee
> with little enough for my taste, so I just cut it out altogether.

I don't get it. Are you saying that the take-out coffee
already had sugar added to it?

I can't imagine any coffee operation around here adding
sugar to coffee by default, without the customer's
request. Maybe things are much different in Canada.

On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 02:11:44 -0700, "Nexis" > wrote:

>I am an iced tea gal. I drink it year round, and have for as long as I can
>remember. Lately, though, because of some medication I'm taking, tea tastes
>off to me, no matter which tea I use. Some days I can drink it, but some,
>not so much. Ice water is good, but lately I find myself wanting something
>else.
>
>What do you like to drink in the summer when it's good and hot outside?
>
>Today I made iced espresso with cinnamon and a a couple teaspoons of half &
>half, shaken with ice. That was good!
>
>Any other ideas?
>
>kimberly
>
In no particular order:
Seltzer with a squeeze of lime or lemon, Shandy by the Imperial Pint,
G&T, White wine spritzer with a lotta lemon.

Oh, water and non-sweet iced tea are fine, too.

Marquis

Mark Thorson wrote:

> I don't get it. Are you saying that the take-out coffee
> already had sugar added to it?
>
> I can't imagine any coffee operation around here adding
> sugar to coffee by default, without the customer's
>

If you get coffee form Tim Hortons or similar coffee shops you ask for it
black, cream (or milk) only, sugar or regular (cream and sugar). When you
get it from a drive thru window she's ready to go.

On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 02:11:44 -0700, "Nexis" > fired up
random neurons and synapses to opine:

>I am an iced tea gal. I drink it year round, and have for as long as I can
>remember. Lately, though, because of some medication I'm taking, tea tastes
>off to me, no matter which tea I use. Some days I can drink it, but some,
>not so much. Ice water is good, but lately I find myself wanting something
>else.
>
>What do you like to drink in the summer when it's good and hot outside?

This was a "two-fer," as I'd made limoncello and had *all* these
lemons sitting around with nothing to do - another "fun" recipe
follows that is mildly tea-based:

@@@@@ Now You're Cooking! Export Format

Lemonade

beverages

2 cups sugar
1 cup hot water
2 cups fresh lemon juice
1 gallon cold water
1 lemon, sliced
mint sprigs, for garnish

In a 1 gallon container, place sugar and hot water, and stir until
sugar dissolves. Add lemon juice and cold water to render 1 gallon.
Stir until well mixed. Pour lemonade over glasses of ice, squeeze
slice of lemon on top of each, and garnish with a sprig of mint.

Contributor: Paula Dean

Yield: 6 - 8 servings

@@@@@ Now You're Cooking! Export Format

Picnic Tea Punch

beverages

8 cups water
1 family size or 4 standard size tea bags
1 cinnamon stick
3/4 cup sugar
1/2 cup frozen orange juice concentrate; thawed
1/2 cup frozen lemonade concentrate; thawed
8 lemon slices
8 fresh mint sprigs

Bring 4 cups water to a boil in medium saucepan. Remove from heat. Add
tea bag and cinnamon stick to water; let stand 5 mins. Remove tea bag.
Add sugar and stir to dissolve. Stir in orange juice and lemonade
concentrates. Pour tea mixture into pitcher. Add remaining 4 cups of
water and stir well. Chill until cold, about 4 hours. Discard cinnamon
stick.

Fill 8 glasses with ice. Pour tea punch over. Garnish each glass with
1 lemon slice and 1 sprig of mint.

Contributor: Bon Appetit

Yield: 8 servings

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
--
"If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret had been as
old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had been as full as the
waitress's, it would have been a very good dinner."

-- Duncan Hines

To reply, replace "meatloaf" with "cox"

Depends on circumstances.

If I'm thirsty, nothing beats a glass of cold water.

For lunch it is iced tea (lemon and sugar)
If I'm in the mood for a drink, it is a G & T
If I'm in the mood for wine, it is a sangria with whatever fruits and fruit
juices happen to be around at the time.

Victor asked:

> You do not like cultured or fermented milk-based beverages? Do
> you also eschew lassi?

Lassi isn't chunky enough to eschew.

(Oh, I crack myself up....)

Bob

"Bob Terwilliger" > wrote in message
...
> Victor asked:
>
>> You do not like cultured or fermented milk-based beverages? Do
>> you also eschew lassi?
>
> Lassi isn't chunky enough to eschew.
>
> (Oh, I crack myself up....)
>

Not surprised. The simpleminded are easily amused.

cybercat wrote:

>>> You do not like cultured or fermented milk-based beverages? Do
>>> you also eschew lassi?
>>
>> Lassi isn't chunky enough to eschew.
>>
>> (Oh, I crack myself up....)
>>
>
> Not surprised. The simpleminded are easily amused.

I guess you would know that better than anyone.

Bob

On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 12:11:35 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:

>blake murphy wrote:
>> On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 18:22:21 -0400, "Kswck" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> "Sheldon" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>> On Jul 2, 10:10?am, "Michael \"Dog3\"" > wrote:
>>>> "l, not -l"
>>>> fdc.sbc.com:in
>>>> rec.food.cooking
>>>>
>>>>> I used to drink the "lemonade" on occasion, then I noticed the film
>>>>> that was deposited on the glass after it was emptied; I decided if it
>>>>> left the film inisde the glass, I didn't think it could be doing
>>>>> anything good inside me. Now, when I want lemonade, I make it with
>>>>> bottled lemon juice and Splenda; it may not be as good as if made with
>>>>> fresh lemons, but it superior to any powdered version I've had and
>>>>> nearly as simple to make.
>>>> I'm weird with the bottled lemon juice also. It has a metallic taste to
>>>> me.
>>>> I use it in recipes when it's called for,
>>> I've never seen any recipe that calls for reconstituted bottled lemon
>>> juice rather than fresh squeezed.
>>>
>>> But lemons around Lung Guyland are now about a buck a piece in the
>>> stupidmarket. So the bottled stuff is a way cheaper sub.
>>>
>>
>> you should try the minute maid frozen lemon juice:
>>
>> <http://www.aviglatt.com/Product_7216.html>
>>
>> it will be cheaper than lemons (and cheaper than shown here), and
>> much, much better than the realemon stuff. i pay $1.79 for a 7.5 oz
>> bottle (seven-odd lemons worth of juice).
>>
>> it's good stuff.
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake
>> ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
>
>I wonder whether that ever showed up around here. I looked for it
>years ago, with no success. Thanks for the reminder!

it's a steady item at my grocer store, next to the frozen orange
juice.

your pal,
blake
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

Bob Terwilliger wrote:

> cybercat wrote:
>
> >>> You do not like cultured or fermented milk-based beverages? Do
> >>> you also eschew lassi?
> >>
> >> Lassi isn't chunky enough to eschew.
> >>
> >> (Oh, I crack myself up....)
> >>
> >
> > Not surprised. The simpleminded are easily amused.
>
> I guess you would know that better than anyone.


And the cyberpussie also makes the mistake of thinking that her sheer
hostility is a substitute for intellect. It isn't...


--
Best
Greg

" I find Greg Morrow lowbrow, witless, and obnoxious. For him to claim that
we are some
kind of comedy team turns my stomach."
- "cybercat" to me on rec.food.cooking