On Fri 11 Jul 2008 04:25:28a, Michael "Dog3" told us...

> blake murphy >
> : in rec.food.cooking
>
>>
>> there were a couple of places in d.c. and the suburbs that in the
>> eighties referred to servers as 'waitrons,' thinking i guess to avoid
>> the sexist 'waiters' or 'waitresses.' i think that the intent was
>> slightly ironic, but it struck me as *much* more demeaning.
>
> The last place I ate that required the canned speech was Applebee's. It
> was typical chain restaurant. The food was good. I had the Tequila Lime
> Chicken. I'm not going to knock the place because the food and service
> was good. Of the chain places I've eaten in the past couple of years it
> is one of the better ones IMO. I also like IHOP's pancakes and country
> fried steak
>
> Michael
>

I used to like IHOP's Country Pancakes, which were the ones that had Cream
of Wheat in the batter. I don't particularly care for any of their other
offerings.

I love the pancakes (particularly the blueberry pancakes) at Cracker
Barrel. They also serve their pancakes with *real* butter and *real*
Vermont maple syrup, or pure fruit blueberry syrup. Their thick cut bacon
and fried country ham isn't bad either.

--
Wayne Boatwright
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'Nietzsche is dead.' --God.
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On Fri 11 Jul 2008 04:26:19a, Michael "Dog3" told us...

> "kilikini" > news:48761a46$0$2928
> : in rec.food.cooking
>
>> blake murphy wrote:
>>>
>>> there were a couple of places in d.c. and the suburbs that in the
>>> eighties referred to servers as 'waitrons,' thinking i guess to avoid
>>> the sexist 'waiters' or 'waitresses.' i think that the intent was
>>> slightly ironic, but it struck me as *much* more demeaning.
>>>
>>
>> Waitron? That sounds more like a waitstaff moron than something
>> complimentary.
>
> Gawd... and we used to call ourselves "food units".
>
> Michael
>
>
>

I think "waitron" sounds more like a robot.

--
Wayne Boatwright
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Friday, 07(VII)/11(XI)/08(MMVIII)
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'Nietzsche is dead.' --God.
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Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Fri 11 Jul 2008 04:26:19a, Michael "Dog3" told us...
>
>> "kilikini" > news:48761a46$0$2928
>> : in rec.food.cooking
>>
>>> blake murphy wrote:
>>>>
>>>> there were a couple of places in d.c. and the suburbs that in the
>>>> eighties referred to servers as 'waitrons,' thinking i guess to
>>>> avoid the sexist 'waiters' or 'waitresses.' i think that the
>>>> intent was slightly ironic, but it struck me as *much* more
>>>> demeaning.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Waitron? That sounds more like a waitstaff moron than something
>>> complimentary.
>>
>> Gawd... and we used to call ourselves "food units".
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>
>>
>
> I think "waitron" sounds more like a robot.

I was going to say that next. :~)

kili

Michael "Dog3" wrote:
> "kilikini" >
> om: in
> rec.food.cooking
>
>> It was always a class-act restaurant, so I'm sure their scallops
>> would be excellent. After dinner (don't know if they still do)
>> they'd serve a complimentary glass of a fruity apple wine. I loved
>> that touch. :~)
>
> Speaking of class... Jonesy was real horrible this morning. He threw
> me real hard. Ramsey is sitting on my lap. Mama is hurt. I'm
> rewarding myself with an omelete. I've got the trinity of bell
> peppers on hand, lorraine swiss, spring onion and those white button
> mushrooms. I'll be better real soon. Don't tell Steven.
>
> Michael

Do I have to shout, YOU DUMBASS!?!?!?!?!? LOL. I won't tell Steven, but
he'll find out anyway. :~)

kili

Stan Horwitz said...

> In article >, Andy <q> wrote:
>
>> Hi Stan!
>>
>> I've walked past that place countless times, wandering around the
>> fringe of the Italian market. We should meet up someday soon and have
>> lunch there. I'll drive in for convenience.
>>
>> And for dessert, go sit for a few Red Stripe Ales and "The Best
>> Sandwich in America, 2007" at Vesuvio's on 7th & Fitzwater for their
>> filet mignon Cheesesteak!!! :9 Or maybe make that another lunch for
>> another time.
>
> I have heard good things about Vesuvio, but I never ate there before.
> Ralph's is fantastic and I sure am up for meeting you at either place
> for lunch. Send me email to let me know when you're available and we can
> set something up.


Stan,

That was the "Best Sandwich, 2008." What a difference a number makes!

See ya!,

Andy

In article >,
blake murphy > wrote:

> On Wed, 09 Jul 2008 18:47:17 -0500, Lou Decruss >
> wrote:
> >We were out with another couple and seated in a booth. The table had
> >a paper cloth on it. The server arrived and pulled up a chair from
> >another table and sat down at the end and introduced himself while
> >writing his name on the paper table cloth with a crayon. It was very
> >stupid.
> >
> >Lou
>
> they do that in maryland crab houses sometimes, but it's butcher
> paper. i've not heard of it elsewhere.
>
> your pal,
> blake

Macaroni Grill before they closed up shop here. I told a server once
that if she dared do it there would be no tip. None. Zero. She
didn't.

--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
rec.food.cooking
Preserved Fruit Administrator
"Always in a jam. Never in a stew." - Evergene

Michael "Dog3" wrote:
> "kilikini" >
> om: in
> rec.food.cooking
>
>> Do I have to shout, YOU DUMBASS!?!?!?!?!? LOL. I won't tell
>> Steven, but he'll find out anyway. :~)
>
> He did find out already. He shared my eggs. I am really sore. He
> could tell too. Ramsey is still ****ed off. How does a cat know it's
> mom is hurt anyway? Steven screamed at me. He wants me to sell the
> horse. Like that's going to happen...
>
> Michael

Nah, you love that horse, but dang it, do you have to jump all the time? Or
was this just on a ride?

kili

On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 10:18:55 -0400, "kilikini"
> wrote:

>blake murphy wrote:
>>
>> there were a couple of places in d.c. and the suburbs that in the
>> eighties referred to servers as 'waitrons,' thinking i guess to avoid
>> the sexist 'waiters' or 'waitresses.' i think that the intent was
>> slightly ironic, but it struck me as *much* more demeaning.
>>
>
>Waitron? That sounds more like a waitstaff moron than something
>complimentary.
>
>kili
>

one place, 'food for thought,' was a very politically aware
almost-vegetarian joint (though they did serve beer and some meat).
almost all the waitresses were heavily tattooed *******s, some of them
really nice-looking. the bulletin board was a trip. a fun spot.

your pal,
blake
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 11:28:55 GMT, "Michael \"Dog3\"" >
wrote:

>blake murphy >
: in rec.food.cooking
>
>> i'd guess it would be more accurate to say he craves it.
>
>Actually you are right on spot as usual. I can say this... He is a scream
>at brunch...
>
>Michael

i'm sure he is a funny guy. i'd like to meet him.

your pal,
blake
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 11:28:22 -0700, Dan Abel > wrote:

>In article >,
> blake murphy > wrote:
>
>
>> i knew a guy whose test for chinese restaurants was to order a steak.
>> he figured if they did that well, they knew how to cook. it struck me
>> as a little odd, because that's really not what you'd think of as
>> chinese cooking.
>
>Where I grew up, there were a lot of Chinese-American restaurants,
>especially in smaller towns. One section of the menu was American food,
>and another section was Chinese food. I was in a strange town with a
>group, and the adult picked one of these places. He never ate Chinese
>food, but said that they always had good American food, so in a strange
>place, he always went for the Chinese-American restaurant.

in new york city (in the 70's, anyway), there were a lot of
cuban-chinese restaurants. apparently when castro took over, a lot of
chinese immigrants there were either kicked out or fled. interesting
menus.

your pal,
blake
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

blake murphy > wrote:

>in new york city (in the 70's, anyway), there were a lot of
>cuban-chinese restaurants. apparently when castro took over, a lot of
>chinese immigrants there were either kicked out or fled. interesting
>menus.

Asia de Cuba may still be there. Well, it was as of 10 years ago.

Steve

On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 14:31:09 -0400, "The UnInmate"
> wrote:

>
>"kilikini" > wrote in message
. com...
>>
>> I always check out the restrooms, too! In some places they're dressed up
>> really cutely. I usually feel good about a place if they take the time to
>> decorate the bathroom well and keep it clean.
>
>What do you do if the pub bathroom door has a drawing on it of a woman
>peeing while standing up?
>

i consider myself lucky if i go to the men's room and there isn't an
*actual* woman peeing while standing up.

your pal,
blake
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 13:24:45 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>On Fri 11 Jul 2008 01:46:20a, told us...
>
>> On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 16:24:22 -0500, Scott > wrote:
>>
>>>Dimitri wrote:
>>>>
>>>> How do you gauge a new place?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>I usually order something that has a picture of the item on the menu. I
>>>like to see what it looks like before I order.
>>
>> OY! I'm hoping that is dripping in sarcasm. Can't tell from here.
>
>Well, it does make ordering easier...just point at the picture. :-)

that might be useful at i.h.o.p. when you're too drunk to speak.

your pal,
blake
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

Melba's Jammin' > wrote:
> In article >,
> blake murphy > wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 09 Jul 2008 18:47:17 -0500, Lou Decruss >
> > wrote:
> > > We were out with another couple and seated in a booth. The table
> > > had a paper cloth on it. The server arrived and pulled up a
> > > chair from another table and sat down at the end and introduced
> > > himself while writing his name on the paper table cloth with a
> > > crayon. It was very stupid.
> > >
> > > Lou
> >
> > they do that in maryland crab houses sometimes, but it's butcher
> > paper. i've not heard of it elsewhere.
> >
> > your pal,
> > blake
>
> Macaroni Grill before they closed up shop here. I told a server once
> that if she dared do it there would be no tip. None. Zero. She
> didn't.

Macaroni Grill used to have singing waiters (pretending to be operatic) for
birthdays, too. I don't want to eat in a place where the servers are forced
to sing, as if they really care it's someones birthday. Trust me, they
don't.

Jill

Michael "Dog3" said...

> "kilikini" >
> om: in
> rec.food.cooking
>
>> Nah, you love that horse, but dang it, do you have to jump all the
>> time? Or was this just on a ride?
>
> There is something about jumping. I have to do it. The excitement maybe?
I
> love the feeling. Steven screams, my doctors scream... they all scream.
I
> say screw 'em. I'm not giving it up. It's one of the FEW things I have
> left that I love. I'd rather have it than not. Steven bought the horse
for
> me. He should have known better...
>
> Michael


Michael,

I'd love to trot around the neighborhood, if I had the courage.

Andy

On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 11:25:43 -0400, blake murphy
> wrote:

>On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 14:31:09 -0400, "The UnInmate"
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"kilikini" > wrote in message
.com...
>>>
>>> I always check out the restrooms, too! In some places they're dressed up
>>> really cutely. I usually feel good about a place if they take the time to
>>> decorate the bathroom well and keep it clean.
>>
>>What do you do if the pub bathroom door has a drawing on it of a woman
>>peeing while standing up?
>>
>
>i consider myself lucky if i go to the men's room and there isn't an
>*actual* woman peeing while standing up.

That really "****es" me off when women use the mens room. If I did it
I'd get arrested. They think it' funny. I used to see it all the
time at rowdy concerts.

Lou

On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 06:04:34 -0400, "jmcquown" >
wrote:

>"Hon" and the like are common in the south. I'm used to it. What I don't
>like is when the server squats beside the table, as if they are too lazy to
>stand up while taking my order. I've worked that side of the fence and it
>never occurred to me to do this. And if they decide to sit down next to me,
>that's way over the top. Planning to join us for dinner? No? Then get up
>and take my order to the kitchen!

Unfortunately the squat is usually management, not server, driven. You
should know that. I have no idea why they slide into the booth with
you. Maybe it's because you're just cute as a button.


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 08:28:37 -0400, "Nancy Young" >
wrote:

>Oh, and stop asking me if everything's okay

as soon as they plop the food down... let me take a bite first.


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

sf wrote:
>
> Unfortunately the squat is usually management, not server, driven. You
> should know that. I have no idea why they slide into the booth with
> you. Maybe it's because you're just cute as a button.


I always figured it was because they were exhausted being on their feet
all day and took the opportunity to sit for a minute.


--Lia

kilikini wrote:

>
>
> Nah, you love that horse, but dang it, do you have to jump all the time? Or
> was this just on a ride?
>

Once you start jumping on horses, just plain riding is pretty boring.

"sf" wrote in message ...
> On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 08:28:37 -0400, "Nancy Young" >
> wrote:
>
>>Oh, and stop asking me if everything's okay
>
> as soon as they plop the food down... let me take a bite first.
>
>
> --
> I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the
> number of carats in a diamond.
>
> Mae West

The "is everything OK" statement stems from old English common law. When
the diner or inn guest said the food was all right that was the transfer of
liability and agreement to pay for the food.


An excerpt from

http://www.thesite.org/homelawandmon...trightsthebill


Food quality
If the problem is the quality of the food rather than the service and it is
so poor as to be a breach of contract, again you are entitled to reduce the
bill or refuse to pay. However, if you are going to do this you need to tell
the waiter at the time the food is served or if you first taste it. The
restaurant is entitled to have the opportunity of putting good the problem.

Under protest
If you do not like making a fuss or you are with a party and do not want to
upset the atmosphere, you can always pay 'under protest' and write on the
back of the bill that you are doing so. This gives you the chance of
claiming against the restaurant at a later date. Usually only worth it if
you are with a big party.

On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 11:52:28 -0700, "Dimitri" >
wrote:

>The "is everything OK" statement stems from old English common law. When
>the diner or inn guest said the food was all right that was the transfer of
>liability and agreement to pay for the food.
>
Interesting!
>
>An excerpt from
>
>http://www.thesite.org/homelawandmon...trightsthebill
>
>
>Food quality
>If the problem is the quality of the food rather than the service and it is
>so poor as to be a breach of contract, again you are entitled to reduce the
>bill or refuse to pay. However, if you are going to do this you need to tell
>the waiter at the time the food is served or if you first taste it. The
>restaurant is entitled to have the opportunity of putting good the problem.

That's why I want to take a bite or two before they ask me if
everything is ok. The waitstaff who do it seem to think they're
allowed to disappear after they've plopped the food in front of me.


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

Lou Decruss wrote:

> That really "****es" me off when women use the mens room. If I did it
> I'd get arrested. They think it' funny. I used to see it all the
> time at rowdy concerts.

Blame whoever planned the bathrooms. Biology dictates that
it takes women longer to use the restroom, there should be
more women's accomodations than men's.

nancy

Nancy Young > wrote:

>Lou Decruss wrote:

>> That really "****es" me off when women use the mens room. If I did it
>> I'd get arrested. They think it' funny. I used to see it all the
>> time at rowdy concerts.

What a weird thing to get ****ed of about.

>Blame whoever planned the bathrooms. Biology dictates that
>it takes women longer to use the restroom, there should be
>more women's accomodations than men's.

When concert halls, etc. remodel they now put in about
three times as many women's facilities as mens. I don't
think the entire ratio is accounted for by "biology",
although some of it is.

Steve

On 2008-07-11, Steve Pope > wrote:
> Nancy Young > wrote:
>
>>Lou Decruss wrote:
>
>>> That really "****es" me off when women use the mens room. If I did it
>>> I'd get arrested. They think it' funny. I used to see it all the
>>> time at rowdy concerts.
>
> What a weird thing to get ****ed of about.

Works both ways. If a woman's restroom (lockable) is open and the
men's is in use, I use the woman's. I imagine it would be ok for a multi
restroom, too, if the guy used a stall and closed the door. It's not like
there's a urinal.

nb

"notbob" > wrote in message
...
> On 2008-07-11, Steve Pope > wrote:
>> Nancy Young > wrote:
>>
>>>Lou Decruss wrote:
>>
>>>> That really "****es" me off when women use the mens room. If I did it
>>>> I'd get arrested. They think it' funny. I used to see it all the
>>>> time at rowdy concerts.
>>
>> What a weird thing to get ****ed of about.
>
> Works both ways. If a woman's restroom (lockable) is open and the
> men's is in use, I use the woman's. I imagine it would be ok for a multi
> restroom, too, if the guy used a stall and closed the door. It's not like
> there's a urinal.
>
> nb

Just be careful at the MSP airport.

;-)



--
Old Scoundrel

(AKA Dimitri)

"Scott" > wrote in message
...
> Dimitri wrote:
>> Generally are you impressed or disappointed with most restaurants?
>>
>> If you are in a new place are you adventurous with your order or do you
>> order an old standby to gauge the place?
>>
>> For me if I go to a new Italian place the first time around if it is
>> convenient to come back to I order the Spaghetti & Meatballs. My logic
>> (if I have any) is if they screw this up I ain't coming back for their
>> veal piccata.
>>
>> How about you?
>>
>> How do you gauge a new place?
>>
>>
>
> I usually order something that has a picture of the item on the menu. I
> like to see what it looks like before I order.

You like to be disappointed don't you/

I have never had a menu item look like the picture The food photography art
practitioners are fantastic. If it did look like the picture it would taste
like wax.


http://www.incredibleinedibles.shopp...ge/1252403.htm


--
Old Scoundrel

(AKA Dimitri)

Michael "Dog3" wrote:



> "Steven screamed at me. He wants me to sell the horse. Like that's
> going to happen...
>
>


Michael:

Steven may have had the same thought I did, that instead of sore you
could have ended up like Christopher Reeve--paralyzed, then dead.

gloria p

"Steve Pope" > wrote in message
...
> Nancy Young > wrote:
>
>>Lou Decruss wrote:
>
>>> That really "****es" me off when women use the mens room. If I did it
>>> I'd get arrested. They think it' funny. I used to see it all the
>>> time at rowdy concerts.
>
> What a weird thing to get ****ed of about.
>

He'll always find something.

In article >,
"Nancy Young" > wrote:

> Lou Decruss wrote:
>
> > That really "****es" me off when women use the mens room. If I did it
> > I'd get arrested. They think it' funny. I used to see it all the
> > time at rowdy concerts.
>
> Blame whoever planned the bathrooms. Biology dictates that
> it takes women longer to use the restroom, there should be
> more women's accomodations than men's.

I don't understand this. Why haven't the architects figured this out by
now? Everybody else has. My wife and I go to SF Giants baseball a few
times a year. The line for the womens rooms are out into the hall, the
mens seldom. Every time. It's not that the demographics have changed,
the field was built in 2000!

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

Dan Abel wrote:

> "Nancy Young" > wrote:

>> Blame whoever planned the bathrooms. Biology dictates that
>> it takes women longer to use the restroom, there should be
>> more women's accomodations than men's.
>
> I don't understand this. Why haven't the architects figured this out
> by now? Everybody else has. My wife and I go to SF Giants baseball
> a few times a year. The line for the womens rooms are out into the
> hall, the mens seldom. Every time. It's not that the demographics
> have changed, the field was built in 2000!

I don't get that at all. Seems obvious to me. Maybe they need
women on the design committee who will understand that women
must half disrobe, just about, to take a pee. Guys, not so much.
A no-brainer.

nancy

"Janet Baraclough" > wrote in message
...
> The message >
> from "Dimitri" > contains these words:
>
>> The "is everything OK" statement stems from old English common law.
>
> No it doesn't. In Britain, waiters asking that question is a
> relatively recent phenomenon, imported from America. It's only been here
> about 20 yrs, max.
>
> Janet (UK)


Just the start. it goes on forever and ever and ever.


--
Old Scoundrel

(AKA Dimitri)





http://topics.law.cornell.edu/wex/ho...nd_restaurants

hotel and restaurant law: an overview

During the middle ages in England, laws pertaining to inns and taverns were
favored of guests. The most cited reason for such stringent laws was that
innkeepers often colluded with robbers and in many instances helped to rob
their guests. While today's innkeepers are in a different league than their
medieval counterparts, they were still held in low regard by both the law
and the public as late as the 1800s. Even today, most of the common law
regulations protecting guests are still in effect. The rationale of
legislators in allowing these archaic rules to remain on the books is
probably the fact that as long as innkeepers are honest, then the old laws
will not affect them.

<sf> wrote in message ...
> On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 13:02:28 -0700, "Nexis" > wrote:
>
>>Saltimbocca is one of my favorites.
>
> Can't say I've ever eaten it or seen it on a menu for that matter. So
> I looked it up, man it looks good! Think I'll make some. I'm not a
> prosciutto fan, so I'll substitute black forest ham.
>
> Chicken Saltimbocca
> Recipe courtesy Giada De Laurentiis
>
> 6 (3-ounce) chicken cutlets, pounded to evenly flatten
> Salt and freshly ground black pepper
> 6 paper-thin slices prosciutto
> 1 (10-ounce) box frozen chopped spinach, thawed
> 3 tablespoons olive oil
> 1/4 cup grated Parmesan
> 1 (14-ounce) can low-salt chicken broth
> 2 tablespoons fresh lemon juice
>
> Place the chicken cutlets flat on the work surface. Sprinkle the
> chicken with salt and pepper. Lay 1 slice of prosciutto atop each
> chicken cutlet.
>
> Squeeze the frozen spinach to remove the excess water. Season the
> spinach with salt and pepper. In a small bowl, toss the spinach with
> 1 tablespoon of oil to coat.
>
> Arrange an even, thin layer of spinach atop the prosciutto slices.
> Sprinkle the Parmesan evenly over each. Beginning at the short
> tapered end, roll up each chicken cutlet as for a jellyroll. Secure
> with a toothpick.
>
> Heat the remaining 2 tablespoons of oil in a heavy large skillet over
> high heat. Add the chicken and cook just until golden brown, about 2
> minutes per side. Add the chicken broth and lemon juice, and scrape
> the browned bits off the bottom of the pan with a wooden spoon. Bring
> the liquid to a boil. Reduce the heat to medium. Cover and simmer
> until the chicken is just cooked through, about 8 to 10 minutes.
> Transfer the chicken to a platter. Simmer the cooking liquid over
> high heat until it is reduced to about 2/3 cup, about 5 minutes.
> Season the cooking liquid with salt and pepper, to taste. Remove
> toothpicks from the chicken. Drizzle the reduced cooking liquid over
> the chicken and serve immediately.
--
> I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the
> number of carats in a diamond.
>
> Mae West

That recipe looks tasty! It is not quite the same as what I make, though.
The way I make it is based on the way it was made the first time I had
it..and fell instantly in love ;-)
CHICKEN SALTIMBOCCA
6 Chicken Breast Halves -- Skinned And Boned
6 Slices Prosciutto
6 Slices Provolone Cheese
6 whole sage leaves
1/2 Cup Flour
1/4 tsp Salt
1/2 tsp Pepper
2 tsp Sage (dried, rubbed)
1/4 Cup Olive oil
1/4 cup butter
1/2 tsp Thyme
1/2 Cup Shallots -- Minced
3 Large Garlic Cloves -- Minced
1/2 Cup Dry White Wine
1 1/2 Cup Chicken Broth
1/2 Cup Cream

Combine the flour with the salt, pepper, and dried sage on a plate. Set
aside.

Pound each of the breast halves to a uniform thickness, around 1/4". Dredge
in seasoned flour.

Heat 2 Tbsp olive oil with 2 Tbsp butter in a large skillet. Brown 3 of the
chicken pieces over med-high heat. Repeat with remaining olive oil, butter &
chicken, placing the chicken pieces on a baking sheet as they get done.

Top each piece of chicken witha slice of proscuitto, then a sage leaf, then
a slice of cheese. Set aside while you make the sauce.

In the olive oil-butter combination remaining in the skillet, saute the
shallots and garlic. Add the thyme, and 1-2 tbsp of the reamining seasoned
flour, and stir. Whisk in the white wine and chicken broth. Simmer for 1
minute, then remove from heat and stir in the cream. Pour over chicken.

Bake chicken at 350* for 15 minutes, until cheese is completely melted and
chicken is cooked through.


kimberly

Dimitri wrote:

> The "is everything OK" statement stems from old English common law.
> When the diner or inn guest said the food was all right that was the
> transfer of liability and agreement to pay for the food.

I don't like it, especially when it's repeated 2 or 3 times.
It's usually not a problem, I don't mean to say it happens
every time. But really, if you see I'm eating or in the middle
of a conversation, don't rudely interrupt me.

Well, you, Dimitri, you can interrupt me anytime. I mean the
waiter.

> Food quality
> If the problem is the quality of the food rather than the service and
> it is so poor as to be a breach of contract, again you are entitled
> to reduce the bill or refuse to pay. However, if you are going to do
> this you need to tell the waiter at the time the food is served or if
> you first taste it.

This just happened this afternoon, what a coincidence. We went
to a restaurant and sat at the bar. Only 2 seats that were open,
a woman had her purse on it. Excuse me, could you move your
purse, thanks? Well, you could see she didn't like it. You can
imagine I couldn't care less. Heh. I just knew she'd be trouble.

Soon arrives a huge bowl of steamers. Piled high, it was a lot.
Clatter clatter go the shells, they polish off the whole thing. Bartender
comes over, how was everything, she says Well, I ate them all but
they were dry overcooked blah blah, she went on. He was taken
aback, in 15 years he never heard a complaint about that dish. A
specialty. Okay, I'll take it off your bill, would you like to order
anything else? Yes.

I didn't stick around to see if that food was to her liking. It just made
me laugh, she didn't just eat a couple and say I don't like this. She
and her friend ate the whole pile without a word.

nancy

"cybercat" > wrote in message
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>
> "Steve Pope" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Nancy Young > wrote:
>>
>>>Lou Decruss wrote:
>>
>>>> That really "****es" me off when women use the mens room. If I did it
>>>> I'd get arrested. They think it' funny. I used to see it all the
>>>> time at rowdy concerts.
>>
>> What a weird thing to get ****ed of about.
>>
>
> He'll always find something.

I don't think it's weird at all. It's part of the hypocrisy of sexual
politics. Just like men's only places cause outrage but women's only places
don't bother anyone, men can't use a women's washroom but women are free to
use a men's. You don't hear people complain about it too often because it's
useless--all that happens is women smirk to each other about your complaints
and men quietly think you're a fool. I think there's even a technical term
for this feeling of men being the new ni***s: "male anger."

Nancy Young said...

> Dimitri wrote:
>
>> The "is everything OK" statement stems from old English common law.
>> When the diner or inn guest said the food was all right that was the
>> transfer of liability and agreement to pay for the food.
>
> I don't like it, especially when it's repeated 2 or 3 times.
> It's usually not a problem, I don't mean to say it happens
> every time. But really, if you see I'm eating or in the middle
> of a conversation, don't rudely interrupt me.
>
> Well, you, Dimitri, you can interrupt me anytime. I mean the
> waiter.
>
>> Food quality
>> If the problem is the quality of the food rather than the service and
>> it is so poor as to be a breach of contract, again you are entitled
>> to reduce the bill or refuse to pay. However, if you are going to do
>> this you need to tell the waiter at the time the food is served or if
>> you first taste it.
>
> This just happened this afternoon, what a coincidence. We went
> to a restaurant and sat at the bar. Only 2 seats that were open,
> a woman had her purse on it. Excuse me, could you move your
> purse, thanks? Well, you could see she didn't like it. You can
> imagine I couldn't care less. Heh. I just knew she'd be trouble.
>
> Soon arrives a huge bowl of steamers. Piled high, it was a lot.
> Clatter clatter go the shells, they polish off the whole thing.
Bartender
> comes over, how was everything, she says Well, I ate them all but
> they were dry overcooked blah blah, she went on. He was taken
> aback, in 15 years he never heard a complaint about that dish. A
> specialty. Okay, I'll take it off your bill, would you like to order
> anything else? Yes.
>
> I didn't stick around to see if that food was to her liking. It just
made
> me laugh, she didn't just eat a couple and say I don't like this. She
> and her friend ate the whole pile without a word.
>
> nancy


If something's wrong with the food, I'll flag down the waitstaff. Until
then wait until I ask for the check and then they're free to ask "was
everything alright?"

That's how I wish to be treated, anyway.

Andy

On Fri 11 Jul 2008 05:03:51p, The UnInmate told us...

>
> "cybercat" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Steve Pope" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Nancy Young > wrote:
>>>
>>>>Lou Decruss wrote:
>>>
>>>>> That really "****es" me off when women use the mens room. If I did
>>>>> it I'd get arrested. They think it' funny. I used to see it all
>>>>> the time at rowdy concerts.
>>>
>>> What a weird thing to get ****ed of about.
>>>
>>
>> He'll always find something.
>
> I don't think it's weird at all. It's part of the hypocrisy of sexual
> politics. Just like men's only places cause outrage but women's only
> places don't bother anyone, men can't use a women's washroom but women
> are free to use a men's. You don't hear people complain about it too
> often because it's useless--all that happens is women smirk to each
> other about your complaints and men quietly think you're a fool. I think
> there's even a technical term for this feeling of men being the new
> ni***s: "male anger."

If a woman wants to come into the men's room while I'm in there and watch
me ****, then let 'em. I'm sure as hell not leaving because they're there.
It's not like they were invited.

--
Wayne Boatwright
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Wisdom is knowing what to do with what
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"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
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> On Fri 11 Jul 2008 05:03:51p, The UnInmate told us...
>
>>
>> "cybercat" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "Steve Pope" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Nancy Young > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Lou Decruss wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> That really "****es" me off when women use the mens room. If I did
>>>>>> it I'd get arrested. They think it' funny. I used to see it all
>>>>>> the time at rowdy concerts.
>>>>
>>>> What a weird thing to get ****ed of about.
>>>>
>>>
>>> He'll always find something.
>>
>> I don't think it's weird at all. It's part of the hypocrisy of sexual
>> politics. Just like men's only places cause outrage but women's only
>> places don't bother anyone, men can't use a women's washroom but women
>> are free to use a men's. You don't hear people complain about it too
>> often because it's useless--all that happens is women smirk to each
>> other about your complaints and men quietly think you're a fool. I think
>> there's even a technical term for this feeling of men being the new
>> ni***s: "male anger."
>
> If a woman wants to come into the men's room while I'm in there and watch
> me ****, then let 'em. I'm sure as hell not leaving because they're
> there.
> It's not like they were invited.

On that narrow issue I completely agree. I don't even care if she takes the
opportunity to laugh at my knob.

Andy wrote:

>
> If something's wrong with the food, I'll flag down the waitstaff. Until
> then wait until I ask for the check and then they're free to ask "was
> everything alright?"
>
> That's how I wish to be treated, anyway.



On the other hand, if something is missing or you want to order
something additional, it's nice to be able to do it BEFORE the check
comes. Sometimes the waitstaff is pretty hard to flag down, it's not
like they are hanging around waiting for your summons, they are BUSY!

gloria p

Gloria P said...

> Andy wrote:
>
>>
>> If something's wrong with the food, I'll flag down the waitstaff. Until
>> then wait until I ask for the check and then they're free to ask "was
>> everything alright?"
>>
>> That's how I wish to be treated, anyway.
>
>
>
> On the other hand, if something is missing or you want to order
> something additional, it's nice to be able to do it BEFORE the check
> comes. Sometimes the waitstaff is pretty hard to flag down, it's not
> like they are hanging around waiting for your summons, they are BUSY!
>
> gloria p


gloria p,

I've never had a problem flagging down the waitstaff, being vocal if need
be! "HELP!" (turns heads). I'm not ashamed at their expense!

Andy