"Andy" <q> wrote in message ...
> Gloria P said...
>
>> Andy wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> If something's wrong with the food, I'll flag down the waitstaff. Until
>>> then wait until I ask for the check and then they're free to ask "was
>>> everything alright?"
>>>
>>> That's how I wish to be treated, anyway.
>>
>>
>>
>> On the other hand, if something is missing or you want to order
>> something additional, it's nice to be able to do it BEFORE the check
>> comes. Sometimes the waitstaff is pretty hard to flag down, it's not
>> like they are hanging around waiting for your summons, they are BUSY!
>>
>> gloria p
>
>
> gloria p,
>
> I've never had a problem flagging down the waitstaff, being vocal if need
> be! "HELP!" (turns heads). I'm not ashamed at their expense!

Next time you do that and the guy at the next table grabs you from behind
for a Heimlich, don't be too surprised.

The UnInmate said...

>
> "Andy" <q> wrote in message ...
>> Gloria P said...
>>
>>> Andy wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> If something's wrong with the food, I'll flag down the waitstaff.
Until
>>>> then wait until I ask for the check and then they're free to ask "was
>>>> everything alright?"
>>>>
>>>> That's how I wish to be treated, anyway.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On the other hand, if something is missing or you want to order
>>> something additional, it's nice to be able to do it BEFORE the check
>>> comes. Sometimes the waitstaff is pretty hard to flag down, it's not
>>> like they are hanging around waiting for your summons, they are BUSY!
>>>
>>> gloria p
>>
>>
>> gloria p,
>>
>> I've never had a problem flagging down the waitstaff, being vocal if
need
>> be! "HELP!" (turns heads). I'm not ashamed at their expense!
>
> Next time you do that and the guy at the next table grabs you from behind
> for a Heimlich, don't be too surprised.


That actually happened at Bookbinders in Philly. I choked on some fish bone
ane was downstairs in the bathroom coughing up and this 80yo guy asked me
if I needed the Heimlech manuver. I looked at the frail old mam and waved
him off. A good lump of bread did the trick. WHEW!

Andy

"Stan Horwitz" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, "Nexis" >
> wrote:
>
>> >"John Kane" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >On Jul 9, 12:47 am, "Nexis" > wrote:
>>
>> >> There are very few Italian places that don't offer spaghetti...it
>> >> doesn't
>> >> necessarily follow that there will be alot of children there. Just
>> >> head
>> >> to
>> >> Little Italy here to see that in action :-)
>> >>
>> >> kimberly-
>>
>> >I'll have to check a few menus but I don't think most of the
>> >(presumably) Italian restaurants serve spaghetti.
>>
>> >John Kane Kingston ON Canada
>>
>> They do here. And yes, they are *real* Italian restaurants, not Pizza
>> Hut
>> or the like.
>> Spaghetti is, after all, an Italian dish.
>
> I have never heard of an Italian restaurant in the United States without
> spaghetti on the menu.
>
> Despite what some people claim, spaghetti isn't just for kids. In
> Philadelphia where I grew up and still work every day, there's a well
> known Italian restaurant called Ralph's that's famous for its spaghetti
> and home made red sauce. Ralph's is the oldest family owned Italian
> restaurant in the United States and they've been serving the same menu
> since they first went into business over 100 years ago. My favorite dish
> there is their veal cutlet with a side of spaghetti.


760 S 9th Street. You go, Stan!!!!
-ginny

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> kilikini wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Nah, you love that horse, but dang it, do you have to jump all the time?
>> Or
>> was this just on a ride?
>>
>
> Once you start jumping on horses, just plain riding is pretty boring.
>

Maybe, but I still prefer women.

On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 21:30:53 -0500, Andy <q> wrote:

>The UnInmate said...
>>
>> Next time you do that and the guy at the next table grabs you from behind
>> for a Heimlich, don't be too surprised.
>
>
>That actually happened at Bookbinders in Philly. I choked on some fish bone
>ane was downstairs in the bathroom coughing up and this 80yo guy asked me
>if I needed the Heimlech manuver. I looked at the frail old mam and waved
>him off. A good lump of bread did the trick. WHEW!
>
You need the Heimlich if you *can't* do something like swallow or
breathe. It happened to me once. I had something stuck in my throat,
I could breathe in, but couldn't exhale. It was scary, but I lived to
tell the tale.


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

notbob > wrote:
> On 2008-07-11, Steve Pope > wrote:
> > Nancy Young > wrote:
> >
> > > Lou Decruss wrote:
> >
> > > > That really "****es" me off when women use the mens room. If I
> > > > did it I'd get arrested. They think it' funny. I used to see
> > > > it all the time at rowdy concerts.
> >
> > What a weird thing to get ****ed of about.
>
> Works both ways. If a woman's restroom (lockable) is open and the
> men's is in use, I use the woman's. I imagine it would be ok for a
> multi restroom, too, if the guy used a stall and closed the door.
> It's not like there's a urinal.
>
> nb

A lot of airports have unisex bathrooms. They take into account the person
taking a small child into a restroom may not always be the mother. But it
also doesn't preclude anyone, male or female, from using the facility.
Makes perfect sense to me. We all gotta go, and we know we all gotta go.
What's the problem?

Jill

Nancy Young > wrote:
> Lou Decruss wrote:
>
> > That really "****es" me off when women use the mens room. If I did
> > it I'd get arrested. They think it' funny. I used to see it all
> > the time at rowdy concerts.
>
> Blame whoever planned the bathrooms. Biology dictates that
> it takes women longer to use the restroom, there should be
> more women's accomodations than men's.
>
> nancy

I'm not sure about the biology thing. I have witnessed the "I have to fix
my hair and makeup" routine more times than I can count. Men don't primp.
They get in, they get out. And what's up with the women travel in packs
thing? Sorry, I just want to go to the bathroom; I don't need an entourage.
Having said that, I've never seen women using the men's room, either, except
when the women's room was out of order and there were only two bathrooms.
At the rowdy concert venues Lou wrote about, trust me, I wouldn't have
wanted to use them. "Troughs" are not my idea of a good time

Jill

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:

> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
> n
> >> Nah, you love that horse, but dang it, do you have to jump all the time?
> >> Or
> >> was this just on a ride?
> >>
> >
> > Once you start jumping on horses, just plain riding is pretty boring.
> >
>
> Maybe, but I still prefer women.

Sure you do :-)

sf wrote:
>
> You need the Heimlich if you *can't* do something like swallow or
> breathe. It happened to me once. I had something stuck in my throat,
> I could breathe in, but couldn't exhale. It was scary, but I lived to
> tell the tale.


Thanks. I was going to elaborate. This is one of those situations
where a little knowledge can be dangerous. People get the idea that
giving the Heimlich maneuvre is as simple as punching someone in the
stomach. Knowing when it's appropriate is at least as important as
doing it right.


If a person is coughing, they don't need the Heimlich. That means air
is going out. If air is going out, air is going in. The person is
breathing. They need time and space, the chance to cough, maybe water,
but they should be fine. Stay near in case they do need emergency care,
but that's it.


The Heimlich is based on an obstruction in the throat. The idea is to
punch the air which is in the lungs anyway out with enough force to
remove the obstruction. Someone with a full obstruction can't breathe,
can't talk. They'll usually look distressed and motion to their throat.
That's when you calmly walk behind them, put your arms around, find
the place where the ribs join, and make the quick jab upward movement.


Another example of the little knowledge problem is when people get the
idea to deliver mouth-to-mouth. If there's an obstruction, air isn't
going in or out. Trying to blow air in runs the risk of pushing the
obstruction down further. Bad idea.


--Lia

jmcquown wrote:
> Nancy Young > wrote:

>> Blame whoever planned the bathrooms. Biology dictates that
>> it takes women longer to use the restroom, there should be
>> more women's accomodations than men's.

> I'm not sure about the biology thing. I have witnessed the "I have
> to fix my hair and makeup" routine more times than I can count.

They aren't fixing their hair in the stall! It's the lack of stalls
that causes the line.

> concert venues Lou wrote about, trust me, I wouldn't have wanted to
> use them. "Troughs" are not my idea of a good time

(laugh) I only heard about the trough thing when this guy I
know said he walked into a men's room and used one. I
think maybe it was in a factory. He didn't understand the
strange looks until he realized it was a big round sink for
hand washing.

nancy

Julia Altshuler said...

> sf wrote:
>>
>> You need the Heimlich if you *can't* do something like swallow or
>> breathe. It happened to me once. I had something stuck in my throat,
>> I could breathe in, but couldn't exhale. It was scary, but I lived to
>> tell the tale.
>
>
> Thanks. I was going to elaborate. This is one of those situations
> where a little knowledge can be dangerous. People get the idea that
> giving the Heimlich maneuvre is as simple as punching someone in the
> stomach. Knowing when it's appropriate is at least as important as
> doing it right.
>
>
> If a person is coughing, they don't need the Heimlich. That means air
> is going out. If air is going out, air is going in. The person is
> breathing. They need time and space, the chance to cough, maybe water,
> but they should be fine. Stay near in case they do need emergency care,
> but that's it.
>
>
> The Heimlich is based on an obstruction in the throat. The idea is to
> punch the air which is in the lungs anyway out with enough force to
> remove the obstruction. Someone with a full obstruction can't breathe,
> can't talk. They'll usually look distressed and motion to their throat.
> That's when you calmly walk behind them, put your arms around, find
> the place where the ribs join, and make the quick jab upward movement.
>
>
> Another example of the little knowledge problem is when people get the
> idea to deliver mouth-to-mouth. If there's an obstruction, air isn't
> going in or out. Trying to blow air in runs the risk of pushing the
> obstruction down further. Bad idea.
>
>
> --Lia


Lia,

I took a two-day CPR class at the local hospital and they in addition
taught us the Heimlich maneuver. That was many years ago. I should retake
the class and get my "Good Samaritan" card back. Iirc, you have to retake
the class annually.

Andy

On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 20:31:53 +0000 (UTC),
(Steve Pope) wrote:

>Nancy Young > wrote:
>
>>Lou Decruss wrote:
>
>>> That really "****es" me off when women use the mens room. If I did it
>>> I'd get arrested. They think it' funny. I used to see it all the
>>> time at rowdy concerts.
>
>What a weird thing to get ****ed of about.
>
>>Blame whoever planned the bathrooms. Biology dictates that
>>it takes women longer to use the restroom, there should be
>>more women's accomodations than men's.
>
>When concert halls, etc. remodel they now put in about
>three times as many women's facilities as mens. I don't
>think the entire ratio is accounted for by "biology",
>although some of it is.
>
>Steve

i think it's because they go to the john in packs.

your pal,
blake
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 21:02:23 -0400, "The UnInmate"
> wrote:

>
>"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
86.120...
>> On Fri 11 Jul 2008 05:03:51p, The UnInmate told us...
>>
>> If a woman wants to come into the men's room while I'm in there and watch
>> me ****, then let 'em. I'm sure as hell not leaving because they're
>> there.
>> It's not like they were invited.
>
>On that narrow issue I completely agree. I don't even care if she takes the
>opportunity to laugh at my knob.
>

is this something that happens to you a lot?

your pal,
blake
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 15:14:08 -0700, Dan Abel > wrote:

>In article >,
> "Nancy Young" > wrote:
>
>> Lou Decruss wrote:
>>
>> > That really "****es" me off when women use the mens room. If I did it
>> > I'd get arrested. They think it' funny. I used to see it all the
>> > time at rowdy concerts.
>>
>> Blame whoever planned the bathrooms. Biology dictates that
>> it takes women longer to use the restroom, there should be
>> more women's accomodations than men's.
>
>I don't understand this. Why haven't the architects figured this out by
>now? Everybody else has. My wife and I go to SF Giants baseball a few
>times a year. The line for the womens rooms are out into the hall, the
>mens seldom. Every time. It's not that the demographics have changed,
>the field was built in 2000!

it takes time to hover two inches over the seat.

your pal,
blake
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

"blake murphy" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 21:02:23 -0400, "The UnInmate"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
. 186.120...
>>> On Fri 11 Jul 2008 05:03:51p, The UnInmate told us...
>>>
>>> If a woman wants to come into the men's room while I'm in there and
>>> watch
>>> me ****, then let 'em. I'm sure as hell not leaving because they're
>>> there.
>>> It's not like they were invited.
>>
>>On that narrow issue I completely agree. I don't even care if she takes
>>the
>>opportunity to laugh at my knob.
>>
>
> is this something that happens to you a lot?

It never has.

On Jul 11, 5:26*pm, Gloria P > wrote:
> Michael "Dog3" wrote:
> > "Steven screamed at me. *He wants me to sell the horse. Like that's
> > going to happen...
>
> Michael:
>
> Steven may have had the same thought I did, that instead of sore you
> could have ended up like Christopher Reeve--paralyzed, then dead.
>
> gloria p

It's probably more dangerous driving to the grocery store.

John Kane Kingston ON Canada

On Jul 12, 9:07*am, "Nancy Young" > wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
> > Nancy Young > wrote:
> >> Blame whoever planned the bathrooms. *Biology dictates that
> >> it takes women longer to use the restroom, there should be
> >> more women's accomodations than men's.
> > I'm not sure about the biology thing. *I have witnessed the "I have
> > to fix my hair and makeup" routine more times than I can count.
>
> They aren't fixing their hair in the stall! *It's the lack of stalls
> that causes the line.
>
> > concert venues Lou wrote about, trust me, I wouldn't have wanted to
> > use them. *"Troughs" are not my idea of a good time
>
> (laugh) *I only heard about the trough thing when this guy I
> know said he walked into a men's room and used one. *I
> think maybe it was in a factory. *He didn't understand the
> strange looks until he realized it was a big round sink for
> hand washing.
>
> nancy

http://www.baddesigns.com/mopsnk.html

John Kane Kingston ON Canada

"The UnInmate" > wrote in message
...
>
> "blake murphy" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 21:02:23 -0400, "The UnInmate"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
.186.120...
>>>> On Fri 11 Jul 2008 05:03:51p, The UnInmate told us...
>>>>
>>>> If a woman wants to come into the men's room while I'm in there and
>>>> watch
>>>> me ****, then let 'em. I'm sure as hell not leaving because they're
>>>> there.
>>>> It's not like they were invited.
>>>
>>>On that narrow issue I completely agree. I don't even care if she takes
>>>the
>>>opportunity to laugh at my knob.
>>>
>>
>> is this something that happens to you a lot?
>
> It never has.
It just did. I don't have to see it to laugh at it. haha

John Kane wrote:
> On Jul 12, 9:07 am, "Nancy Young" > wrote:

>> (laugh) I only heard about the trough thing when this guy I
>> know said he walked into a men's room and used one. I
>> think maybe it was in a factory. He didn't understand the
>> strange looks until he realized it was a big round sink for
>> hand washing.

> http://www.baddesigns.com/mopsnk.html

Oh, that's funny. That's right, if you have to put up a
sign, something's not right.

nancy

"cybercat" > wrote in message
...
>
> "The UnInmate" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "blake murphy" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 21:02:23 -0400, "The UnInmate"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
8.186.120...
>>>>> On Fri 11 Jul 2008 05:03:51p, The UnInmate told us...
>>>>>
>>>>> If a woman wants to come into the men's room while I'm in there and
>>>>> watch
>>>>> me ****, then let 'em. I'm sure as hell not leaving because they're
>>>>> there.
>>>>> It's not like they were invited.
>>>>
>>>>On that narrow issue I completely agree. I don't even care if she takes
>>>>the
>>>>opportunity to laugh at my knob.
>>>>
>>>
>>> is this something that happens to you a lot?
>>
>> It never has.
> It just did. I don't have to see it to laugh at it. haha

Mind posting a picture of what it looks like? ;-)

"John Kane" > wrote in message
...
On Jul 12, 9:07 am, "Nancy Young" > wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
> > Nancy Young > wrote:
> >> Blame whoever planned the bathrooms. Biology dictates that
> >> it takes women longer to use the restroom, there should be
> >> more women's accomodations than men's.
> > I'm not sure about the biology thing. I have witnessed the "I have
> > to fix my hair and makeup" routine more times than I can count.
>
> They aren't fixing their hair in the stall! It's the lack of stalls
> that causes the line.
>
> > concert venues Lou wrote about, trust me, I wouldn't have wanted to
> > use them. "Troughs" are not my idea of a good time
>
> (laugh) I only heard about the trough thing when this guy I
> know said he walked into a men's room and used one. I
> think maybe it was in a factory. He didn't understand the
> strange looks until he realized it was a big round sink for
> hand washing.
>
> nancy

http://www.baddesigns.com/mopsnk.html

John Kane Kingston ON Canada

---------------------------------------------------------

Why have a "mop sink" taking up so much space in the bathroom, especially
when it squeezes out a urinal? Does the bathroom exist so that the janitors
can clean it, with people using it to relieve themselves a distant second?
Bah.

"The UnInmate" > wrote in message
...
>
> "cybercat" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "The UnInmate" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "blake murphy" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 21:02:23 -0400, "The UnInmate"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
>>>>>news:Xns9AD8B3F49B6FAwayneboatwrightatcox@69. 28.186.120...
>>>>>> On Fri 11 Jul 2008 05:03:51p, The UnInmate told us...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If a woman wants to come into the men's room while I'm in there and
>>>>>> watch
>>>>>> me ****, then let 'em. I'm sure as hell not leaving because they're
>>>>>> there.
>>>>>> It's not like they were invited.
>>>>>
>>>>>On that narrow issue I completely agree. I don't even care if she takes
>>>>>the
>>>>>opportunity to laugh at my knob.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> is this something that happens to you a lot?
>>>
>>> It never has.
>> It just did. I don't have to see it to laugh at it. haha
>
> Mind posting a picture of what it looks like? ;-)
I don't have to know exactly what yours looks like. They're all funny
looking. Unless I'm in a certain mood.

In article >,
"Dimitri" > wrote:

> "notbob" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On 2008-07-11, Steve Pope > wrote:
> >> Nancy Young > wrote:
> >>
> >>>Lou Decruss wrote:
> >>
> >>>> That really "****es" me off when women use the mens room. If I did it
> >>>> I'd get arrested. They think it' funny. I used to see it all the
> >>>> time at rowdy concerts.
> >>
> >> What a weird thing to get ****ed of about.
> >
> > Works both ways. If a woman's restroom (lockable) is open and the
> > men's is in use, I use the woman's. I imagine it would be ok for a multi
> > restroom, too, if the guy used a stall and closed the door. It's not like
> > there's a urinal.
> >
> > nb
>
> Just be careful at the MSP airport.
>
> ;-)

Larry, Larry, Larry. . . .
(watch your "wide stance" '-)

--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
rec.food.cooking
Preserved Fruit Administrator
"Always in a jam. Never in a stew." - Evergene

On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 13:38:24 -0400, "Nancy Young" >
wrote:

>John Kane wrote:
>> On Jul 12, 9:07 am, "Nancy Young" > wrote:
>
>>> (laugh) I only heard about the trough thing when this guy I
>>> know said he walked into a men's room and used one. I
>>> think maybe it was in a factory. He didn't understand the
>>> strange looks until he realized it was a big round sink for
>>> hand washing.
>
>> http://www.baddesigns.com/mopsnk.html
>
>Oh, that's funny. That's right, if you have to put up a
>sign, something's not right.
>
>nancy

i wonder if anyone came by later and wrote in underneath, 'not
anymore.'

your pal,
blake
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

"blake murphy" > wrote

>>It strikes me as monstrous and barbaric. Social engineering shouldn't be
>>used for revenge.
>>
>
> yeah, it's just too barbaric when white men aren't automatically at
> the top o' the heap anymore.
>

I must remember to be outraged.

"blake murphy" > wrote in message
>
> yeah, it's just too barbaric when white men aren't automatically at
> the top o' the heap anymore.

Distortion and rhetoric. We were talking about men, of all colours, being at
the *bottom*.

In article >, Andy <q> says...
> Julia Altshuler said...
>
> > sf wrote:
> >>
> >> You need the Heimlich if you *can't* do something like swallow or
> >> breathe. It happened to me once. I had something stuck in my throat,
> >> I could breathe in, but couldn't exhale. It was scary, but I lived to
> >> tell the tale.
> >
> >
> > Thanks. I was going to elaborate. This is one of those situations
> > where a little knowledge can be dangerous. People get the idea that
> > giving the Heimlich maneuvre is as simple as punching someone in the
> > stomach. Knowing when it's appropriate is at least as important as
> > doing it right.
> >
> >
> > If a person is coughing, they don't need the Heimlich. That means air
> > is going out. If air is going out, air is going in. The person is
> > breathing. They need time and space, the chance to cough, maybe water,
> > but they should be fine. Stay near in case they do need emergency care,
> > but that's it.
> >
> >
> > The Heimlich is based on an obstruction in the throat. The idea is to
> > punch the air which is in the lungs anyway out with enough force to
> > remove the obstruction. Someone with a full obstruction can't breathe,
> > can't talk. They'll usually look distressed and motion to their throat.
> > That's when you calmly walk behind them, put your arms around, find
> > the place where the ribs join, and make the quick jab upward movement.
> >
> >
> > Another example of the little knowledge problem is when people get the
> > idea to deliver mouth-to-mouth. If there's an obstruction, air isn't
> > going in or out. Trying to blow air in runs the risk of pushing the
> > obstruction down further. Bad idea.
> >
> >
> > --Lia
>
>
> Lia,
>
> I took a two-day CPR class at the local hospital and they in addition
> taught us the Heimlich maneuver. That was many years ago. I should retake
> the class and get my "Good Samaritan" card back. Iirc, you have to retake
> the class annually.
>
> Andy
>
>

I recall going out for a family dinner at a local restaurant. It was
myself, my father, his wife and my sisters.

My dads wife now deceased, which is very sad since she was a good woman,
was an R.N.

While we were in the restaurant we saw the classic choking signs happen
to another diner. Without a thought Peggy got up, walked over and
performed the Heimlich maneuver and saved the persons life.

The restaurant management and the person saved both sent bottles of wine
to the table in thanks.

T wrote:
>
> I recall going out for a family dinner at a local restaurant. It was
> myself, my father, his wife and my sisters.
>
> My dad's wife, now deceased, which is very sad since she was a good woman,
> was an R.N.
>
> While we were in the restaurant, we saw the classic choking signs happen
> to another diner. Without a thought, Peggy got up, walked over and
> performed the Heimlich maneuver and saved the person's life.
>
> The restaurant management and the person saved both sent bottles of wine
> to the table in thanks.


Nice memory.
I don't hope anyone is ever in a life-threatening situation while I'm
around, but I do sometimes fantasize about being able to play superwoman
like that some day. It's funny since I have only basic first aid
training and have never wanted to work in the medical profession.


--Lia

Nancy Young > wrote:

> Lou Decruss wrote:
>
>> That really "****es" me off when women use the mens room. If I did it
>> I'd get arrested. They think it' funny. I used to see it all the
>> time at rowdy concerts.
>
> Blame whoever planned the bathrooms.

Which is exactly what I now do for a living (seriously!). If I had
my way, I'd put in the same number of stalls in the women's rooms as
there are ****ers and shitters in the men's rooms.

But alas, I have to make them almost 2:1 or else I wouldn't have a
job very long. So much for equal rights.

ObFood: "Italian Chicken" simmering away in the crock pot.

-sw

On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 14:22:13 -0400, "The UnInmate"
> wrote:

>
>"blake murphy" > wrote in message
>>
>> yeah, it's just too barbaric when white men aren't automatically at
>> the top o' the heap anymore.
>
>Distortion and rhetoric. We were talking about men, of all colours, being at
>the *bottom*.
>
and where are women in your scenario?


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

Sqwertz wrote:
> Nancy Young > wrote:
>
>> Lou Decruss wrote:
>>
>>> That really "****es" me off when women use the mens room. If I did
>>> it I'd get arrested. They think it' funny. I used to see it all
>>> the time at rowdy concerts.
>>
>> Blame whoever planned the bathrooms.
>
> Which is exactly what I now do for a living (seriously!). If I had
> my way, I'd put in the same number of stalls in the women's rooms as
> there are ****ers and shitters in the men's rooms.
>
> But alas, I have to make them almost 2:1 or else I wouldn't have a
> job very long. So much for equal rights.

2:1 does give equal access for men and women. Equal wait
time to use the fascilities.

Hardly an issue I expect anyone to feel downtrodden over.

nancy

Nancy Young > wrote:

> Sqwertz wrote:
>> Nancy Young > wrote:
>>
>>> Lou Decruss wrote:
>>>
>>>> That really "****es" me off when women use the mens room. If I did
>>>> it I'd get arrested. They think it' funny. I used to see it all
>>>> the time at rowdy concerts.
>>>
>>> Blame whoever planned the bathrooms.
>>
>> Which is exactly what I now do for a living (seriously!). If I had
>> my way, I'd put in the same number of stalls in the women's rooms as
>> there are ****ers and shitters in the men's rooms.
>>
>> But alas, I have to make them almost 2:1 or else I wouldn't have a
>> job very long. So much for equal rights.
>
> 2:1 does give equal access for men and women.

You're right. It's still lopsided.

> Equal wait time to use the fascilities.

The bathrooms I [re]design are mostly in large office buildings and
restaurants, not seedy bars, stadiums and concert halls. There is
usually no waiting unless they're having a Christmas party or
drinking a lot of beer during lunchtime.

-sw

Sqwertz > wrote:

> The bathrooms I [re]design are mostly in large office buildings and
> restaurants, not seedy bars, stadiums and concert halls. There is
> usually no waiting unless they're having a Christmas party or
> drinking a lot of beer during lunchtime.

Not to mention the women's rooms have miles of vanity and mirrors,
and often a foyer. They're 3-4 times as big as a men's facility.

-sw

On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 14:22:13 -0400, "The UnInmate"
> wrote:

>
>"blake murphy" > wrote in message
>>
>> yeah, it's just too barbaric when white men aren't automatically at
>> the top o' the heap anymore.
>
>Distortion and rhetoric. We were talking about men, of all colours, being at
>the *bottom*.
>

....and i'm saying that's a boatload of shit. look how easily hillary
breezed into the presidency just because she was a woman.

blake


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On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 16:28:34 -0700, sf wrote:

>On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 14:22:13 -0400, "The UnInmate"
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"blake murphy" > wrote in message
>>>
>>> yeah, it's just too barbaric when white men aren't automatically at
>>> the top o' the heap anymore.
>>
>>Distortion and rhetoric. We were talking about men, of all colours, being at
>>the *bottom*.
>>
>and where are women in your scenario?

i guess that leaves women on top, riding us like cowgirls.

your pal,
blake
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"blake murphy" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 14:22:13 -0400, "The UnInmate"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"blake murphy" > wrote in message
>>>
>>> yeah, it's just too barbaric when white men aren't automatically at
>>> the top o' the heap anymore.
>>
>>Distortion and rhetoric. We were talking about men, of all colours, being
>>at
>>the *bottom*.
>>
>
> ...and i'm saying that's a boatload of shit. look how easily hillary
> breezed into the presidency just because she was a woman.
>
>

Sexism runs so deep, it outdoes racism, which also runs deep. Did you see
the interviews with male voters who all said some version of, "she's too
emotional" when asked about Hillary, or women in general in the presidency?

The really ironic thing is, we will have the first person of African descent
in the White House largely because so many men would rather have ANY kind of
man in the presidency than a woman.

"blake murphy" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 16:28:34 -0700, sf wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 14:22:13 -0400, "The UnInmate"
> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"blake murphy" > wrote in message
>>>>
>>>> yeah, it's just too barbaric when white men aren't automatically at
>>>> the top o' the heap anymore.
>>>
>>>Distortion and rhetoric. We were talking about men, of all colours, being
>>>at
>>>the *bottom*.
>>>
>>and where are women in your scenario?
>
> i guess that leaves women on top, riding us like cowgirls.
>

(!)

On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 11:13:15 -0400, blake murphy
> wrote:

>On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 16:28:34 -0700, sf wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 14:22:13 -0400, "The UnInmate"
> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"blake murphy" > wrote in message
>>>>
>>>> yeah, it's just too barbaric when white men aren't automatically at
>>>> the top o' the heap anymore.
>>>
>>>Distortion and rhetoric. We were talking about men, of all colours, being at
>>>the *bottom*.
>>>
>>and where are women in your scenario?
>
>i guess that leaves women on top, riding us like cowgirls.
>
and hitting our heads on the glass ceiling.


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

"cybercat" > wrote in message
...

<snip>

> ...and i'm saying that's a boatload of shit. look how easily hillary
>> breezed into the presidency just because she was a woman.
>>
>>
>
> Sexism runs so deep, it outdoes racism, which also runs deep. Did you see
> the interviews with male voters who all said some version of, "she's too
> emotional" when asked about Hillary, or women in general in the
> presidency?
>
> The really ironic thing is, we will have the first person of African
> descent in the White House largely because so many men would rather have
> ANY kind of man in the presidency than a woman.

I am not sure I agree with you totally.

Your statement pre-supposes the electorate is smart enough for rational
thought.

Baaaahhhhh Like sheep to the slaughter.....


--
Old Scoundrel

(AKA Dimitri)

On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 11:50:44 -0400, "cybercat" >
wrote:

>
>"blake murphy" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 14:22:13 -0400, "The UnInmate"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"blake murphy" > wrote in message
>>>>
>>>> yeah, it's just too barbaric when white men aren't automatically at
>>>> the top o' the heap anymore.
>>>
>>>Distortion and rhetoric. We were talking about men, of all colours, being
>>>at
>>>the *bottom*.
>>>
>>
>> ...and i'm saying that's a boatload of shit. look how easily hillary
>> breezed into the presidency just because she was a woman.
>>
>>
>
>Sexism runs so deep, it outdoes racism, which also runs deep. Did you see
>the interviews with male voters who all said some version of, "she's too
>emotional" when asked about Hillary, or women in general in the presidency?
>
>The really ironic thing is, we will have the first person of African descent
>in the White House largely because so many men would rather have ANY kind of
>man in the presidency than a woman.
>

we'll see. as long as the media seems to treat mccain as though he
shat straight-talkin' gold ingots, you never know.

your pal,
blake
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