Has any one tried McDonald’s Coffee?

I did and found it tasted a lot better than Starbucks, infact it tasted
better than any coffee I’ve had from anywhere. As for McDonald’s fast food I
wouldn’t feed it to my dog, but they sure got the coffee right compared to
what they served before.

Still with McDonald’s being a corporate entity and all, the thought crossed
my mind that like the cigarette manufacturers sometimes doping their product
with extra nicotine. I wonder the possibility that McDonald’s might have
artificially added extra flavanoids and caffeine to boost their signature
brew.

On Jul 9, 1:47*pm, "Mike" > wrote:
> Has any one tried McDonald’s Coffee?
>
> I did and found it tasted a lot better than Starbucks, infact it tasted
> better than any coffee I’ve had from anywhere. As for McDonald’s fast food I
> wouldn’t feed it to my dog, but they sure got the coffee right compared to
> what they served before.
>
> Still with McDonald’s being a corporate entity and all, the thought crossed
> my mind that like the cigarette manufacturers sometimes doping their product
> with extra nicotine. I wonder the possibility that McDonald’s might have
> artificially added extra flavanoids and caffeine to boost their signature
> brew.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

They do pretty well with Sweet Tea - something hard to find in the
frozen north!

Lynn from Fargo
who thinks $1 isn't bad even without free refills

On Jul 9, 2:47 pm, "Mike" > wrote:
> Has any one tried McDonald’s Coffee?
>
> I did and found it tasted a lot better than Starbucks, infact it tasted
> better than any coffee I’ve had from anywhere. As for McDonald’s fast food I
> wouldn’t feed it to my dog, but they sure got the coffee right compared to
> what they served before.
>
> Still with McDonald’s being a corporate entity and all, the thought crossed
> my mind that like the cigarette manufacturers sometimes doping their product
> with extra nicotine. I wonder the possibility that McDonald’s might have
> artificially added extra flavanoids and caffeine to boost their signature
> brew.

Better than Dunkin' Donuts? Even the Circle K in my area has pretty
decent coffee.

On Jul 9, 11:47*am, "Mike" > wrote:
> Has any one tried McDonald’s Coffee?
>
> I did and found it tasted a lot better than Starbucks, infact it tasted
> better than any coffee I’ve had from anywhere. As for McDonald’s fast food I
> wouldn’t feed it to my dog, but they sure got the coffee right compared to
> what they served before.
>
> Still with McDonald’s being a corporate entity and all, the thought crossed
> my mind that like the cigarette manufacturers sometimes doping their product
> with extra nicotine. I wonder the possibility that McDonald’s might have
> artificially added extra flavanoids and caffeine to boost their signature
> brew.

McDonald's upgraded their coffee a few years ago.

Karen

On Wed, 09 Jul 2008 18:47:24 GMT, "Mike" > wrote:

>Has any one tried McDonald’s Coffee?
>
>I did and found it tasted a lot better than Starbucks, infact it tasted
>better than any coffee I’ve had from anywhere. As for McDonald’s fast food I
>wouldn’t feed it to my dog, but they sure got the coffee right compared to
>what they served before.
>
>Still with McDonald’s being a corporate entity and all, the thought crossed
>my mind that like the cigarette manufacturers sometimes doping their product
>with extra nicotine. I wonder the possibility that McDonald’s might have
>artificially added extra flavanoids and caffeine to boost their signature
>brew.
>
I think they are buying better quality coffee beans now. I thought it
was just a local thing because coffee is big here. What part of the
country are you in?


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Mae West

In article <0J7dk.703$HY.50@trnddc01>, "Mike" > wrote:

> Has any one tried McDonald’s Coffee?
>
> I did and found it tasted a lot better than Starbucks, infact it tasted
> better than any coffee I’ve had from anywhere.

You need to get out more.

Miche

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"Mike" > wrote in message news:0J7dk.703$HY.50@trnddc01...
> Has any one tried McDonald's Coffee?
>
> I did and found it tasted a lot better than Starbucks, infact it tasted
> better than any coffee I've had from anywhere. As for McDonald's fast food
> I
> wouldn't feed it to my dog, but they sure got the coffee right compared to
> what they served before.

I thought they were serving Newman's Own these days. (They do here.)

Mike wrote:
> Has any one tried McDonald�s Coffee?
>
> I did and found it tasted a lot better than Starbucks, infact it tasted
> better than any coffee I�ve had from anywhere. As for McDonald�s fast food I
> wouldn�t feed it to my dog, but they sure got the coffee right compared to
> what they served before.
>
> Still with McDonald�s being a corporate entity and all, the thought crossed
> my mind that like the cigarette manufacturers sometimes doping their product
> with extra nicotine. I wonder the possibility that McDonald�s might have
> artificially added extra flavanoids and caffeine to boost their signature
> brew.

i've tried both mcdonald's and burger king coffee recently, and imho
both beat star$ handsdown. much deeper coffee flavor, and i drink my
coffee black.

harriet & critters in very, very humid azusa

"Mike" > wrote in message news:0J7dk.703$HY.50@trnddc01...
> Has any one tried McDonald's Coffee?
>
> I did and found it tasted a lot better than Starbucks, infact it tasted
> better than any coffee I've had from anywhere. As for McDonald's fast food
> I
> wouldn't feed it to my dog, but they sure got the coffee right compared to
> what they served before.
>
> Still with McDonald's being a corporate entity and all, the thought
> crossed
> my mind that like the cigarette manufacturers sometimes doping their
> product
> with extra nicotine.

Wow, I had some McD's coffee today and I was trying to determine what the
flavor reminded me of, and you jogged my memory. It tastes like it was
swished through a well-used ashtray. Maybe you got that nicotine thing
right.

"Mike" > wrote in news:0J7dk.703$HY.50@trnddc01:

> Has any one tried McDonald’s Coffee?
>
> I did and found it tasted a lot better than Starbucks, infact
> it tasted better than any coffee I’ve had from anywhere. As
> for McDonald’s fast food I wouldn’t feed it to my dog, but
> they sure got the coffee right compared to what they served
> before.

I like it a lot. :-) Very good coffee.

> Still with McDonald’s being a corporate entity and all, the
> thought crossed my mind that like the cigarette manufacturers
> sometimes doping their product with extra nicotine. I wonder
> the possibility that McDonald’s might have artificially added
> extra flavanoids and caffeine to boost their signature brew.
>
>

dejablues wrote:

>
> "Mike" > wrote in message news:0J7dk.703$HY.50@trnddc01...
>> Has any one tried McDonald's Coffee?
>>
>> I did and found it tasted a lot better than Starbucks, infact it tasted
>> better than any coffee I've had from anywhere. As for McDonald's fast food
>> I
>> wouldn't feed it to my dog, but they sure got the coffee right compared to
>> what they served before.
>>
>> Still with McDonald's being a corporate entity and all, the thought
>> crossed
>> my mind that like the cigarette manufacturers sometimes doping their
>> product
>> with extra nicotine.
>
> Wow, I had some McD's coffee today and I was trying to determine what the
> flavor reminded me of, and you jogged my memory. It tastes like it was
> swished through a well-used ashtray. Maybe you got that nicotine thing
> right.

When was the last time you really had any of their coffee?


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"Blinky the Shark" > wrote in message
news
> dejablues wrote:
>
>>
>> "Mike" > wrote in message news:0J7dk.703$HY.50@trnddc01...
>>> Has any one tried McDonald's Coffee?
>>>
>>> I did and found it tasted a lot better than Starbucks, infact it tasted
>>> better than any coffee I've had from anywhere. As for McDonald's fast
>>> food
>>> I
>>> wouldn't feed it to my dog, but they sure got the coffee right compared
>>> to
>>> what they served before.
>>>
>>> Still with McDonald's being a corporate entity and all, the thought
>>> crossed
>>> my mind that like the cigarette manufacturers sometimes doping their
>>> product
>>> with extra nicotine.
>>
>> Wow, I had some McD's coffee today and I was trying to determine what the
>> flavor reminded me of, and you jogged my memory. It tastes like it was
>> swished through a well-used ashtray. Maybe you got that nicotine thing
>> right.
>
> When was the last time you really had any of their coffee?
>

Yesterday. I always drink it black.
I didn't say I disliked it, though. It has a very distinctive flavor, and
it's ashtray-esque.

"Mike" > wrote in message news:0J7dk.703$HY.50@trnddc01...
> Has any one tried McDonald’s Coffee?
>
> I did and found it tasted a lot better than Starbucks, infact it tasted
> better than any coffee I’ve had from anywhere. As for McDonald’s fast food
> I
> wouldn’t feed it to my dog, but they sure got the coffee right compared to
> what they served before.
>
> Still with McDonald’s being a corporate entity and all, the thought
> crossed
> my mind that like the cigarette manufacturers sometimes doping their
> product
> with extra nicotine. I wonder the possibility that McDonald’s might have
> artificially added extra flavanoids and caffeine to boost their signature
> brew.
>
>

the coffee the McCafes use here in Sth Australia (sort of a cafe within the
McDonald's, with different cafe type foods/drinks) has amazing coffee

the coffee you get if you go through the drive-through or at the counter of
the "normal" McDonalds however, is disgusting; it's made in one of those
push-button coffee machine thingy's

dejablues wrote:

>
> "Blinky the Shark" > wrote in message
> news
>> dejablues wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Mike" > wrote in message news:0J7dk.703$HY.50@trnddc01...
>>>> Has any one tried McDonald's Coffee?
>>>>
>>>> I did and found it tasted a lot better than Starbucks, infact it tasted
>>>> better than any coffee I've had from anywhere. As for McDonald's fast
>>>> food
>>>> I
>>>> wouldn't feed it to my dog, but they sure got the coffee right compared
>>>> to
>>>> what they served before.
>>>>
>>>> Still with McDonald's being a corporate entity and all, the thought
>>>> crossed
>>>> my mind that like the cigarette manufacturers sometimes doping their
>>>> product
>>>> with extra nicotine.
>>>
>>> Wow, I had some McD's coffee today and I was trying to determine what the
>>> flavor reminded me of, and you jogged my memory. It tastes like it was
>>> swished through a well-used ashtray. Maybe you got that nicotine thing
>>> right.
>>
>> When was the last time you really had any of their coffee?
>>
>
> Yesterday. I always drink it black.
> I didn't say I disliked it, though. It has a very distinctive flavor, and
> it's ashtray-esque.

Do you smoke tobacco, by any chance?


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On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 18:05:31 -0400, "Janet" >
wrote:

>
>"Mike" > wrote in message news:0J7dk.703$HY.50@trnddc01...
>> Has any one tried McDonald's Coffee?
>>
>> I did and found it tasted a lot better than Starbucks, infact it tasted
>> better than any coffee I've had from anywhere. As for McDonald's fast food
>> I
>> wouldn't feed it to my dog, but they sure got the coffee right compared to
>> what they served before.
>
>I thought they were serving Newman's Own these days. (They do here.)
>
I think they must buy premium coffees from the local area (haven't
thought to inquire). I really like the coffee at McD's and I'm hard
to please when it comes to coffee. It must be dark roasted - and it
can't be weak.


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Mae West

On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 04:11:09 GMT, "MG" > wrote:

>the coffee you get if you go through the drive-through or at the counter of
>the "normal" McDonalds however, is disgusting; it's made in one of those
>push-button coffee machine thingy's

Too bad! We get good coffee without a McD cafe.


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Mae West

sandi said...

> "Mike" > wrote in news:0J7dk.703$HY.50@trnddc01:
>
>> Has any one tried McDonald’s Coffee?
>>
>> I did and found it tasted a lot better than Starbucks, infact
>> it tasted better than any coffee I’ve had from anywhere. As
>> for McDonald’s fast food I wouldn’t feed it to my dog, but
>> they sure got the coffee right compared to what they served
>> before.
>
> I like it a lot. :-) Very good coffee.
>
>> Still with McDonald’s being a corporate entity and all, the
>> thought crossed my mind that like the cigarette manufacturers
>> sometimes doping their product with extra nicotine. I wonder
>> the possibility that McDonald’s might have artificially added
>> extra flavanoids and caffeine to boost their signature brew.


It's good business. McD can easily afford to buy the best coffee beans in
the world and they DO just that and sell it cheap, to get you coming back
for the rest of their sucky foods.

Imho,

Andy

Andy <q> wrote in :

> sandi said...
>
>> "Mike" > wrote in news:0J7dk.703$HY.50@trnddc01:
>>
>>> Has any one tried McDonald’s Coffee?
>>>
>>> I did and found it tasted a lot better than Starbucks, infact
>>> it tasted better than any coffee I’ve had from anywhere. As
>>> for McDonald’s fast food I wouldn’t feed it to my dog, but
>>> they sure got the coffee right compared to what they served
>>> before.
>>
>> I like it a lot. :-) Very good coffee.
>>
>>> Still with McDonald’s being a corporate entity and all, the
>>> thought crossed my mind that like the cigarette manufacturers
>>> sometimes doping their product with extra nicotine. I wonder
>>> the possibility that McDonald’s might have artificially added
>>> extra flavanoids and caffeine to boost their signature brew.
>
>
> It's good business. McD can easily afford to buy the best coffee beans
> in the world and they DO just that and sell it cheap, to get you
> coming back for the rest of their sucky foods.
>
> Imho,
>
> Andy
>
>

Starbucks uses a very dark roast coffee, McDonalds doesn't. The type of
roast is very important to the flavour of the coffee.

--

The house of the burning beet-Alan

On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 04:11:09 GMT, "MG" > wrote:

>
>"Mike" > wrote in message news:0J7dk.703$HY.50@trnddc01...
>> Has any one tried McDonald’s Coffee?
>>
>> I did and found it tasted a lot better than Starbucks, infact it tasted
>> better than any coffee I’ve had from anywhere. As for McDonald’s fast food
>> I
>> wouldn’t feed it to my dog, but they sure got the coffee right compared to
>> what they served before.
>>
>> Still with McDonald’s being a corporate entity and all, the thought
>> crossed
>> my mind that like the cigarette manufacturers sometimes doping their
>> product
>> with extra nicotine. I wonder the possibility that McDonald’s might have
>> artificially added extra flavanoids and caffeine to boost their signature
>> brew.
>>
>>
>
>the coffee the McCafes use here in Sth Australia (sort of a cafe within the
>McDonald's, with different cafe type foods/drinks) has amazing coffee
>
>the coffee you get if you go through the drive-through or at the counter of
>the "normal" McDonalds however, is disgusting; it's made in one of those
>push-button coffee machine thingy's
>

i was gonna say, i had a cup not too long ago that was perfectly vile.

your pal,
blake
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On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 15:16:17 GMT, hahabogus > wrote:

>Starbucks uses a very dark roast coffee, McDonalds doesn't. The type of
>roast is very important to the flavour of the coffee.

That may be a regional thing. My local McDonalds uses an obviously
french roasted coffee. I haven't done my homework and actually
*asked* (didn't care as long as it's good), but you know the worker
bees won't know anything anyway.


--
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Mae West

hahabogus said...

> Andy <q> wrote in :
>
>> sandi said...
>>
>>> "Mike" > wrote in news:0J7dk.703$HY.50@trnddc01:
>>>
>>>> Has any one tried McDonald’s Coffee?
>>>>
>>>> I did and found it tasted a lot better than Starbucks, infact
>>>> it tasted better than any coffee I’ve had from anywhere. As
>>>> for McDonald’s fast food I wouldn’t feed it to my dog, but
>>>> they sure got the coffee right compared to what they served
>>>> before.
>>>
>>> I like it a lot. :-) Very good coffee.
>>>
>>>> Still with McDonald’s being a corporate entity and all, the
>>>> thought crossed my mind that like the cigarette manufacturers
>>>> sometimes doping their product with extra nicotine. I wonder
>>>> the possibility that McDonald’s might have artificially added
>>>> extra flavanoids and caffeine to boost their signature brew.
>>
>>
>> It's good business. McD can easily afford to buy the best coffee beans
>> in the world and they DO just that and sell it cheap, to get you
>> coming back for the rest of their sucky foods.
>>
>> Imho,
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>
>
> Starbucks uses a very dark roast coffee, McDonalds doesn't. The type of
> roast is very important to the flavour of the coffee.


True, but I always associated Starbucks with yuppies, not a family
experience place with breakfast, lunch and dinner and now they're closing
650 stores, McD keeps steam rolling along.

Starbucks was too high priced, too narrow in scope and expanded too fast. I
have no mercy for the likes of Starbucks or Krispy Kreme. I've had exactly
two Starbucks cappuccinos and two Krispy Kreme glazed donuts. I actually
give Dunkin Donut's nods for trying to grab some of each market. But the
donut market is really a morning market. Who goes there for lunch or
dinner? Not the majority.

AND, I never understood why Wendy's never got into the fast food breakfast
market! Biggest mistake Thomas ever made. They could've grabbed a big slice
out of McD and BK's profit pies.

Back to coffee.

Imho,

Andy

sf wrote in :

> On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 15:16:17 GMT, hahabogus > wrote:
>
>>Starbucks uses a very dark roast coffee, McDonalds doesn't. The type of
>>roast is very important to the flavour of the coffee.
>
> That may be a regional thing. My local McDonalds uses an obviously
> french roasted coffee. I haven't done my homework and actually
> *asked* (didn't care as long as it's good), but you know the worker
> bees won't know anything anyway.
>
>

I explained poorly...starbucks roast is wayyy beyond a dark french roast,
closer to an expresso roast. At least that's what it tastes like to me. To
me it tastes burnt.

--

The house of the burning beet-Alan

On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 18:05:31 -0400, "Janet" >
wrote:

>
>"Mike" > wrote in message news:0J7dk.703$HY.50@trnddc01...
>> Has any one tried McDonald's Coffee?
>>
>> I did and found it tasted a lot better than Starbucks, infact it tasted
>> better than any coffee I've had from anywhere. As for McDonald's fast food
>> I
>> wouldn't feed it to my dog, but they sure got the coffee right compared to
>> what they served before.
>
>I thought they were serving Newman's Own these days. (They do here.)
>

christ, newman now has his thumb in coffee as well?

your pal,
blake
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On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 22:14:00 -0400, "dejablues" >
wrote:

>
>"Mike" > wrote in message news:0J7dk.703$HY.50@trnddc01...
>> Has any one tried McDonald's Coffee?
>>
>> I did and found it tasted a lot better than Starbucks, infact it tasted
>> better than any coffee I've had from anywhere. As for McDonald's fast food
>> I
>> wouldn't feed it to my dog, but they sure got the coffee right compared to
>> what they served before.
>>
>> Still with McDonald's being a corporate entity and all, the thought
>> crossed
>> my mind that like the cigarette manufacturers sometimes doping their
>> product
>> with extra nicotine.
>
>Wow, I had some McD's coffee today and I was trying to determine what the
>flavor reminded me of, and you jogged my memory. It tastes like it was
>swished through a well-used ashtray. Maybe you got that nicotine thing
>right.
>

well, i smoke like it's not going out of style, and i thought the last
cup of mcdougal's coffee was lousy.

your pal,
blake
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hahabogus said...

> sf wrote in :
>
>> On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 15:16:17 GMT, hahabogus > wrote:
>>
>>>Starbucks uses a very dark roast coffee, McDonalds doesn't. The type of
>>>roast is very important to the flavour of the coffee.
>>
>> That may be a regional thing. My local McDonalds uses an obviously
>> french roasted coffee. I haven't done my homework and actually
>> *asked* (didn't care as long as it's good), but you know the worker
>> bees won't know anything anyway.
>>
>>
>
> I explained poorly...starbucks roast is wayyy beyond a dark french roast,
> closer to an expresso roast. At least that's what it tastes like to me.
To
> me it tastes burnt.


That's because it was burnt in the brew stage!

Manning the espresso machine I could see if an espresso groupe came out
burnt. If the surface was black rather than a creamy chocolate brown after
brewing, it was burnt. You'd never drink a burnt espresso coffee on my
shift! BACK THEN.

Andy

On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 17:09:04 GMT, hahabogus > wrote:

>I explained poorly...starbucks roast is wayyy beyond a dark french roast,
>closer to an expresso roast. At least that's what it tastes like to me. To
>me it tastes burnt.

That's because you're used to dirty dishwater coffee. Starbucks is a
lightweight when it comes to dark roasting. Peet's has them beat. I
bet you'd hate Italian roast too.


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Mae West

<sf> wrote in message ...
> On Wed, 09 Jul 2008 18:47:24 GMT, "Mike" > wrote:
>
> >Has any one tried McDonald's Coffee?
> >
> >I did and found it tasted a lot better than Starbucks, infact it tasted
> >better than any coffee I've had from anywhere. As for McDonald's fast
food I
> >wouldn't feed it to my dog, but they sure got the coffee right compared
to
> >what they served before.
> >
> >Still with McDonald's being a corporate entity and all, the thought
crossed
> >my mind that like the cigarette manufacturers sometimes doping their
product
> >with extra nicotine. I wonder the possibility that McDonald's might have
> >artificially added extra flavanoids and caffeine to boost their signature
> >brew.
> >
> I think they are buying better quality coffee beans now. I thought it
> was just a local thing because coffee is big here. What part of the
> country are you in?
>
>

West Coast near Los Angeles and you?

"hahabogus" > wrote in message
...
> sf wrote in :
>
> > On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 15:16:17 GMT, hahabogus > wrote:
> >
> >>Starbucks uses a very dark roast coffee, McDonalds doesn't. The type of
> >>roast is very important to the flavour of the coffee.
> >
> > That may be a regional thing. My local McDonalds uses an obviously
> > french roasted coffee. I haven't done my homework and actually
> > *asked* (didn't care as long as it's good), but you know the worker
> > bees won't know anything anyway.
> >
> >
>
> I explained poorly...starbucks roast is wayyy beyond a dark french roast,
> closer to an expresso roast. At least that's what it tastes like to me. To
> me it tastes burnt.
>

I always thought Starbucks was over marketed and over roasted bad bean
coffee.
You can taste the bitterness of 1 bad bean in 5 lbs. of ground coffee, so in
order to blot
it out they over roast it.

On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:09:57 GMT, "Mike" > wrote:

>
><sf> wrote in message ...

>> What part of the country are you in?
>>
>
>West Coast near Los Angeles and you?
>
San Francisco


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Andy <q> wrote:

>hahabogus said...

>> Andy <q> wrote in :

>>> McD can easily afford to buy the best coffee beans
>>> in the world and they DO just that and sell it cheap, to get you
>>> coming back for the rest of their sucky foods.

>>> Imho,

>> Starbucks uses a very dark roast coffee, McDonalds doesn't. The type of
>> roast is very important to the flavour of the coffee.

>True, but I always associated Starbucks with yuppies, not a family
>experience place with breakfast, lunch and dinner and now they're closing
>650 stores, McD keeps steam rolling along.

>Starbucks was too high priced, too narrow in scope and expanded too fast. I
>have no mercy for the likes of Starbucks or Krispy Kreme.

I think it's a truism that cream does not go well with dark
roast coffees, which go well with milk instead. IME people
who like cream in coffee invariably say they do not like
dark roasts, whereas probably a small majority of everyone
else prefers dark roasts.

Starbucks has no non-dark-roasts, whereas someone like
Peet's will usually be serving one. Someone like Tim Hortons
(and possibly, McDonalds) can sell a lot of coffee that many people
will like -- because it's a lighter roast, and is not ruined
when you add cream to it.

Just my opinion/observation.

Steve

On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:19:34 GMT, "Mike" > wrote:

>I always thought Starbucks was over marketed and over roasted bad bean
>coffee.

They have to make it stronger to stand up to all that glop people want
in the finished coffee drink.

>You can taste the bitterness of 1 bad bean in 5 lbs. of ground coffee, so in
>order to blot it out they over roast it.

I have no idea what you're talking about. Just give me fair trade
coffee and I'm a happy camper.



--
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Mae West

hahabogus > wrote:

>I explained poorly...starbucks roast is wayyy beyond a dark french roast,
>closer to an expresso roast. At least that's what it tastes like to me. To
>me it tastes burnt.

Interesting statement, as many coffee people will say a
French Roast is darker than an espresso roast. That,
for example, is the situation among Peet's standard blends.

But it's a slippery statement either way, because lots of
roast levels are used for espresso. My local favorite coffee
company, Blue Bottle, makes numerous espresso roasts but
asserts "none of our roasts are dark roasts". They may
be stretching it a bit but they have a point.

Extremely dark roast used for espresso is typical of
mostly one place, Naples Italy. There, limited wealth
has forced local practice towards a very dark roast
made from very cheap beans, but brewed with such precision
that it comes out very good. (Think one-tablespoon shots
of syrup-consistency espresso with a great head. Er
excuse me. "Crema.")


Steve

On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 19:23:25 +0000 (UTC),
(Steve Pope) wrote:


>But it's a slippery statement either way, because lots of
>roast levels are used for espresso. My local favorite coffee
>company, Blue Bottle, makes numerous espresso roasts but
>asserts "none of our roasts are dark roasts". They may
>be stretching it a bit but they have a point.
>
I like Blue Bottle. I got a few pounds of their coffee last year, and
it has been great. I got the blend they use at Chez Panisse, and so
far all of my coffee drinker friends like that one the best.

Christine

Christine Dabney > wrote:

>On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 19:23:25 +0000 (UTC),

>>But it's a slippery statement either way, because lots of
>>roast levels are used for espresso. My local favorite coffee
>>company, Blue Bottle, makes numerous espresso roasts but
>>asserts "none of our roasts are dark roasts". They may
>>be stretching it a bit but they have a point.

>I like Blue Bottle. I got a few pounds of their coffee last year, and
>it has been great. I got the blend they use at Chez Panisse, and so
>far all of my coffee drinker friends like that one the best.

I think the name of that blend is Espresso Temescal. It's one
of my two favorites, the other being Roman Espresso.

It is not uncommon to get to the farmer's market within
15 minutes of opening and find that Blue Bottle has already sold
all of the Espresso Temescal. (Which I am drinking at
this very moment.)

I hope BB survives their branching out into the restaurant
business.

Steve

On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 19:14:09 +0000 (UTC),
(Steve Pope) wrote:
>
>I think it's a truism that cream does not go well with dark
>roast coffees, which go well with milk instead. IME people
>who like cream in coffee invariably say they do not like
>dark roasts, whereas probably a small majority of everyone
>else prefers dark roasts.

I do french roast, turkish grind, use at least an extra scoop for the
pot and prefer cream over milk any day. No cream, no coffee. Milk
ruins good coffee.


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Mae West

> wrote:

>(Steve Pope) wrote:

>>I think it's a truism that cream does not go well with dark
>>roast coffees, which go well with milk instead. [..]

>I do french roast, turkish grind, use at least an extra scoop for the
>pot and prefer cream over milk any day. No cream, no coffee. Milk
>ruins good coffee.

Interesting. I'll have to ... um... get you to make me one
of these sometime, so I can see if it shakes me of my
cream-in-dark-coffee aversion.

Steve

On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 20:51:28 +0000 (UTC),
(Steve Pope) wrote:

>Interesting. I'll have to ... um... get you to make me one
>of these sometime, so I can see if it shakes me of my
>cream-in-dark-coffee aversion.

So, you were extrapolating your preferences to the general public?
Milk in dark coffee is not a general rule, as you can see by my
preference. Most people drink milk in coffee because they are trying
to save calories. Personally, I think milk turns coffee a horrible,
disgusting mousy brownish/gray color and detracts from rather than
enhance the flavor.


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I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

> wrote:

>On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 20:51:28 +0000 (UTC),

>>Interesting. I'll have to ... um... get you to make me one
>>of these sometime, so I can see if it shakes me of my
>>cream-in-dark-coffee aversion.

>So, you were extrapolating your preferences to the general public?

I happen to believe most people don't like the cream/dark coffee
combination. In areas where dark coffee is ubiquitous (Italy,
France, Pacific Northwest) people overwhelmingly use milk
and not cream.

So, I think it's more than my preference.

>Milk in dark coffee is not a general rule, as you can see by my
>preference. Most people drink milk in coffee because they are trying
>to save calories.

That may be true some place (U.S. particularly), but I doubt
it's true in, say, Italy. Plus, the number of calories in the amount
of cream you'd put in coffee is not that serious.

>Personally, I think milk turns coffee a horrible,
>disgusting mousy brownish/gray color and detracts from rather than
>enhance the flavor.

Noted.

Steve

On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 21:42:53 +0000 (UTC),
(Steve Pope) wrote:

> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 20:51:28 +0000 (UTC),
>
>>>Interesting. I'll have to ... um... get you to make me one
>>>of these sometime, so I can see if it shakes me of my
>>>cream-in-dark-coffee aversion.
>
>>So, you were extrapolating your preferences to the general public?
>
>I happen to believe most people don't like the cream/dark coffee
>combination. In areas where dark coffee is ubiquitous (Italy,
>France, Pacific Northwest) people overwhelmingly use milk
>and not cream.
>
>So, I think it's more than my preference.
>
>>Milk in dark coffee is not a general rule, as you can see by my
>>preference. Most people drink milk in coffee because they are trying
>>to save calories.
>
>That may be true some place (U.S. particularly), but I doubt
>it's true in, say, Italy. Plus, the number of calories in the amount
>of cream you'd put in coffee is not that serious.
>
>>Personally, I think milk turns coffee a horrible,
>>disgusting mousy brownish/gray color and detracts from rather than
>>enhance the flavor.
>
>Noted.
>
>Steve

It's personal preference. When Louise and I spent our first night
together she made coffee in the morning and got 2% milk out. I
declined and drank it black. IMO, black is better than even whole
milk. Even powdered creamer is better than black. But that's just my
opinion.

Now years later, Louise won't use milk and uses half and half. I use
heavy cream. I don't drink enough coffee to worry about the fat.

Lou

On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 21:42:53 +0000 (UTC),
(Steve Pope) wrote:

> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 20:51:28 +0000 (UTC),
>
>>>Interesting. I'll have to ... um... get you to make me one
>>>of these sometime, so I can see if it shakes me of my
>>>cream-in-dark-coffee aversion.
>
>>So, you were extrapolating your preferences to the general public?
>
>I happen to believe most people don't like the cream/dark coffee
>combination. In areas where dark coffee is ubiquitous (Italy,
>France, Pacific Northwest) people overwhelmingly use milk
>and not cream.

Are you talking about regular coffee or cappuccino/latte? I like
foamed milk and don't insist on cream for the latter two.
>
>So, I think it's more than my preference.
>
>>Milk in dark coffee is not a general rule, as you can see by my
>>preference. Most people drink milk in coffee because they are trying
>>to save calories.
>
>That may be true some place (U.S. particularly), but I doubt
>it's true in, say, Italy. Plus, the number of calories in the amount
>of cream you'd put in coffee is not that serious.

I have a sneaking suspicion that we're not talking about the same
coffee drink.


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West