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You forgot, "I don't drive out of my way for coffee"! If it's on the
way and I want coffee, I'll stop - and I stop at a local coffee shop
that's on the same side of the street I'm headed in. I don't like
sweets with my morning coffee, so I stop at the chinese bakery or
McDonald's. Starbuck's is in the polar opposite direction anyway.
I'm changing work sites next year, so I will be getting my coffee at
Noah's Bagels a lot. Starbucks is in the same complex, but when I
want something to eat with my morning coffee (and I usually do),
starbuck's isn't even on the radar. Come to think of it, Starbuck's
isn't a morning idea for me anyway. Probably because they played up
their foofoo drinks too much.


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> On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 19:19:37 +0200, ChattyCathy
> > wrote:
>
>>http://www.recfoodcooking.com/

>
> You forgot, "I don't drive out of my way for coffee"! If it's on the
> way and I want coffee, I'll stop - and I stop at a local coffee shop
> that's on the same side of the street I'm headed in. I don't like
> sweets with my morning coffee, so I stop at the chinese bakery or
> McDonald's. Starbuck's is in the polar opposite direction anyway.
> I'm changing work sites next year, so I will be getting my coffee at
> Noah's Bagels a lot. Starbucks is in the same complex, but when I
> want something to eat with my morning coffee (and I usually do),
> starbuck's isn't even on the radar. Come to think of it, Starbuck's
> isn't a morning idea for me anyway. Probably because they played up
> their foofoo drinks too much.
>
>

As the question was whether you preferred McD's coffee, or Starbucks coffee
(there was no mention of other local coffee shops, or the time of day you
wanted coffee, or how you got there to buy it) I would have thought that
the "McDonald's" choice would apply (according to your comments above).
However, the fact that I intended to go to bed hours ago (and didn't) might
have something to do with my 'logic' here. ;-)
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We can't stand Starbucks. It's bitter and acidy. We think that people
really don't like it but they want to seem "trendy" so they buy it.

We also believe that they need to keep putting stuff like syrups and
milk into the coffee to make it palatable.

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>As the question was whether you preferred McD's coffee, or Starbucks coffee
>(there was no mention of other local coffee shops, or the time of day you
>wanted coffee, or how you got there to buy it) I would have thought that
>the "McDonald's" choice would apply (according to your comments above).
>However, the fact that I intended to go to bed hours ago (and didn't) might
>have something to do with my 'logic' here. ;-)


Yeah, but if work was in the *other* direction (which it will be next
year), it would be Starbucks or Noah's, which either sells Starbucks
or a local coffee (haven't asked in years). No winning here, I'm a
spoiled city girl with too many choices. Coffee everywhere around
here is good. I dread leaving the Bay area because coffee goes
downhill quickly. I just won't order it. Same with wine by the
glass. Both are just swill after you leave civilization.

Then there's the eternal question: What would you rather wake up to in
the morning (let's say a surprise breakfast in bed)? Coffee, tea,
other? I prefer coffee in the morning, tea in the afternoon.


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ChattyCathy wrote on Mon, 14 Jul 2008 01:39:27 +0200:

>> On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 19:19:37 +0200, ChattyCathy
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.recfoodcooking.com/

>>
>> You forgot, "I don't drive out of my way for coffee"! If
>> it's on the way and I want coffee, I'll stop - and I stop at
>> a local coffee shop that's on the same side of the street I'm
>> headed in. I don't like sweets with my morning coffee, so I
>> stop at the chinese bakery or McDonald's. Starbuck's is in
>> the polar opposite direction anyway. I'm changing work sites
>> next year, so I will be getting my coffee at Noah's Bagels a
>> lot. Starbucks is in the same complex, but when I want
>> something to eat with my morning coffee (and I usually
>> do), starbuck's isn't even on the radar. Come to think of
>> it, Starbuck's isn't a morning idea for me anyway. Probably
>> because they played up their foofoo drinks too much.
>>

> As the question was whether you preferred McD's coffee, or
> Starbucks coffee (there was no mention of other local coffee
> shops, or the time of day you wanted coffee, or how you got
> there to buy it) I would have thought that the "McDonald's"
> choice would apply (according to your comments above).
> However, the fact that I intended to go to bed hours ago (and
> didn't) might have something to do with my 'logic' here. ;-)


There's no mode to the answers as yet. However, I only occasionally buy
coffee when I am in bookstores or have time to kill. I'm not even sure
what make the local Barnes & noble sells. Mostly, I make my own coffee
from beans that I grind for myself. I think even unground beans keep
better if frozen and I wonder how many others agree?
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On Mon 14 Jul 2008 04:45:35a, James Silverton told us...

> ChattyCathy wrote on Mon, 14 Jul 2008 01:39:27 +0200:
>
>>> On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 19:19:37 +0200, ChattyCathy
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://www.recfoodcooking.com/
>>>
>>> You forgot, "I don't drive out of my way for coffee"! If
>>> it's on the way and I want coffee, I'll stop - and I stop at
>>> a local coffee shop that's on the same side of the street I'm
>>> headed in. I don't like sweets with my morning coffee, so I
>>> stop at the chinese bakery or McDonald's. Starbuck's is in
>>> the polar opposite direction anyway. I'm changing work sites
>>> next year, so I will be getting my coffee at Noah's Bagels a
>>> lot. Starbucks is in the same complex, but when I want
>>> something to eat with my morning coffee (and I usually
>>> do), starbuck's isn't even on the radar. Come to think of
>>> it, Starbuck's isn't a morning idea for me anyway. Probably
>>> because they played up their foofoo drinks too much.
>>>

>> As the question was whether you preferred McD's coffee, or
>> Starbucks coffee (there was no mention of other local coffee
>> shops, or the time of day you wanted coffee, or how you got
>> there to buy it) I would have thought that the "McDonald's"
>> choice would apply (according to your comments above).
>> However, the fact that I intended to go to bed hours ago (and didn't)
>> might have something to do with my 'logic' here. ;-)

>
> There's no mode to the answers as yet. However, I only occasionally buy
> coffee when I am in bookstores or have time to kill. I'm not even sure
> what make the local Barnes & noble sells. Mostly, I make my own coffee
> from beans that I grind for myself. I think even unground beans keep
> better if frozen and I wonder how many others agree?


I agree, frozen beans keep better. Even pre-ground coffee keeps better
frozen as long as it's well sealed.

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Wayne Boatwright wrote:

> On Mon 14 Jul 2008 04:45:35a, James Silverton told us...


>>
>> There's no mode to the answers as yet. However, I only occasionally buy
>> coffee when I am in bookstores or have time to kill. I'm not even sure
>> what make the local Barnes & noble sells. Mostly, I make my own coffee
>> from beans that I grind for myself. I think even unground beans keep
>> better if frozen and I wonder how many others agree?

>
> I agree, frozen beans keep better. Even pre-ground coffee keeps better
> frozen as long as it's well sealed.
>

Heh. Never knew that. Good tip. I rarely drink coffee, but DH drinks plenty
of it so I buy a local brand that he likes. I usually just keep the 'stock'
in the cupboard, I think I'll freeze it in future. Thanks.
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On Mon 14 Jul 2008 05:58:01a, ChattyCathy told us...

> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
>> On Mon 14 Jul 2008 04:45:35a, James Silverton told us...

>
>>>
>>> There's no mode to the answers as yet. However, I only occasionally
>>> buy coffee when I am in bookstores or have time to kill. I'm not even
>>> sure what make the local Barnes & noble sells. Mostly, I make my own
>>> coffee from beans that I grind for myself. I think even unground beans
>>> keep better if frozen and I wonder how many others agree?

>>
>> I agree, frozen beans keep better. Even pre-ground coffee keeps better
>> frozen as long as it's well sealed.
>>

> Heh. Never knew that. Good tip. I rarely drink coffee, but DH drinks
> plenty of it so I buy a local brand that he likes. I usually just keep
> the 'stock' in the cupboard, I think I'll freeze it in future. Thanks.


I've been doing this for years, and there's a noticeable difference,
especially if you don't use a lot of coffee.

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It is a matter of complete indifference to me. I use so much milk
and saccharin in my coffee, it might as well be roasted acorns.

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Cindy wrote on Mon, 14 Jul 2008 07:58:44 -0700 (PDT):

> On Jul 13, 1:19 pm, ChattyCathy > wrote:
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> It is a matter of complete indifference to me. I use so much
> milk and saccharin in my coffee, it might as well be roasted
> acorns.


My grandfather who would try anything but lived 'til 82 tried that
during WWII. It was *not* a success.

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On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:27:32 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
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>On Mon 14 Jul 2008 04:45:35a, James Silverton told us...
>
>> I think even unground beans keep
>> better if frozen and I wonder how many others agree?

>
>I agree, frozen beans keep better. Even pre-ground coffee keeps better
>frozen as long as it's well sealed.


Agree about preground. I store it there, even when I make coffee
daily.


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Cindy Hamilton wrote:


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> It is a matter of complete indifference to me. I use so much milk
> and saccharin in my coffee, it might as well be roasted acorns.
>
> Cindy Hamilton


<grin>

I am no coffee 'connoisseur' either. The only coffee I ever really liked
without cream or sugar was some that an ex-Boss organized for our
department. He ordered one of those fancy-schmancy counter-top coffee
machines - ya know, the ones that you put in the coffee beans and it grinds
them up, heats up the water, filters things, does some more thumping and
grinding - then after a while, if you press the right button, coffee
magically appears. To justify the cost of the machine and to impress
everyone, he ordered some 'special' coffee beans from Brazil. (I couldn't
tell you what beans/brand/whatever if you held a gun to my head). I
remember that they were very dark and 'oily/shiny' in appearance (which the
Boss said was a Very Good Thing). However, they made really good tasting
coffee, IMHO.
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On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 18:22:44 +0200, ChattyCathy
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>he ordered some 'special' coffee beans from Brazil. (I couldn't
>tell you what beans/brand/whatever if you held a gun to my head). I
>remember that they were very dark and 'oily/shiny' in appearance (which the
>Boss said was a Very Good Thing).


That's exactly what you look for in coffee beans. Stay away from the
dull, dry ones.


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On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 10:16:32 -0700, sf wrote:

>On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 18:22:44 +0200, ChattyCathy
> wrote:
>
>>he ordered some 'special' coffee beans from Brazil. (I couldn't
>>tell you what beans/brand/whatever if you held a gun to my head). I
>>remember that they were very dark and 'oily/shiny' in appearance (which the
>>Boss said was a Very Good Thing).

>
>That's exactly what you look for in coffee beans. Stay away from the
>dull, dry ones.


Hmmm- whether coffee is oily looking or drier is done in the roasting
process. As someone who sells roasted coffee, the majority of our
Kona beans are roasted to just before the oils come out. Kona is
flavorful and aromatic and a great coffee and is perfect at "just
before 2nd crack" <g>. Imho, over roasting to oils or beyond is a way
to mask the difference in the bean quality. So if you have varying
degrees of beans from junk to not so junk, over roasting masks all
those variances and you end up with dark roasted beans.

When you have great beans to begin with,one can roast to one's
particular flavor. You lose the delicious chocolate taste in Kona if
over roasted.

Different kinds of coffee have different "best roasts" and it is up to
one's palate but it is not categorically correct to say all beans
should have oil on their surface.

Coffee oils tend to break down, chemically, and can become rancid
which is nasty.

Just my $.02 although DH is out side roasting for our customers as I
type here.

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