On 2008-07-14, Andy <q> wrote:

> I'll switch to Coors Light.

Coming from a garden hose near you.

Nancy2 wrote:

> One place where this change in ownership may have big impact, is in
> sponsorships of "small" sports, as in minor leagues, local race
> tracks, etc. I hate when foreign entities buy US companies and US
> properties. There oughtta be a law. ......

Oh come on. You guys have been buying up businesses and properties all over the
world, and you hate it when the locals resent it.

"l, not -l" wrote:

> Most Australian beer is vastly superior to Canadian; Canadian brew smells
> and tastes much as moose **** must.

Not knowing what moose **** tastes like, I will defer to your experience.

notbob wrote:

> On 2008-07-14, Andy <q> wrote:
>
> > I'll switch to Coors Light.
>
> Coming from a garden hose near you.

LOL A few years ago we spent a night in Golden Colorado,
where the Coors brewery is larger than downtown. The happy
hour at bar in the hotel where we were staying was buy one
draught beer and get one free. I asked the bartender if it
was Coors and he said "We have some good beer too."

notbob wrote:
>
> Face it, it's a McDonalds kind of world, these days. Bland cheese, lousy
> food, watery beer, lowfat milk, flavorless vegetables, high-end vodka
> (flavorless), etc.

Yes, this is the decline of Western Civilization that
Cato the Elder warned us was occurring. :-)

On 2008-07-14, Mark Thorson > wrote:

> Yes, this is the decline of Western Civilization that
> Cato the Elder warned us was occurring. :-)

Yes! So save yourself, and your tastebuds, and try and get your hands on
some Pliny the Elder, a truly ass chewing beer:

http://russianriverbrewing.com/web/b...nytheelder.htm

nb

Beer Drinking Dog wrote:
> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>> On Mon 14 Jul 2008 04:21:49a, Andy told us...
>>
>>> Goodbye Budweiser!
>>>
>>> Depending on the shareholder vote, Anheiser Busch will become the
>>> property of !Bev a Belgium company.
>>>
>>> There goes the neighborhood.
>>>
>>> I shall not be drinking Bud Light any longer.
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>
>>
>> I doubt anything perceptible will change, Andy. !Bef is not going to
>> tamper with the legendary history and reputation of a product that's a
>> commercial success. Only the ownership will change. Besides, German
>> beers are legenary in themselves. Would you rather it be a company
>> from the Congo that bought them out?
>>
>
> Not far off... If I remember correctly, InBev was the result of the
> merger of a *South African* brewer and a Belgium one.

Remembered incorrectly... InBev was a merger of a Brazilian brewer and
one in Belgium. Current world's largest SABMiller was the one that was
from South Africa; the SAB in the name stands for _S_outh _A_frican
_B_reweries.

Still, Brazil isn't far off.... Not what I think of when I think of
great beer.

Andy wrote:
> Wayne Boatwright said...
>
>> On Mon 14 Jul 2008 04:21:49a, Andy told us...
>>
>>> Goodbye Budweiser!
>>>
>>> Depending on the shareholder vote, Anheiser Busch will become the
>>> property of !Bev a Belgium company.
>>>
>>> There goes the neighborhood.
>>>
>>> I shall not be drinking Bud Light any longer.
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>
>> I doubt anything perceptible will change, Andy. !Bef is not going to
>> tamper with the legendary history and reputation of a product that's a
>> commercial success. Only the ownership will change. Besides, German
> beers
>> are legenary in themselves. Would you rather it be a company from the
>> Congo that bought them out?
>
>
> They're not going to announce any changes until after the sale.
>
> The morning news talking heads are talking about the new owners might drop
> the Clydesdales and superbowl commercials as it's "not part of their
> marketing strategy."
>
> And there will be layoffs.
>
> Congo? I don't like the idea of American money going to a foreign concern,
> period. Dammit!

You damn well better be self-sufficient then. WalMart buys most of its
stuff from China, many of our largest and most key companies have
foreign investors or are owned outright by foreigners. Large tracts of
US land are in the hands of foreign owners. Most of our oil comes from
overseas, not to mention many of our most favorite computer goodies.
Remember Apple's iPhone--made in China. Nokia is Finnish, and
BlackBerries are from RIM, a Canadian company.

You can't escape it, unless you head for the hills and live like a
hermit on your own plot of land.

On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 23:25:43 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>On 2008-07-14, Andy <q> wrote:
>
>> I'll switch to Coors Light.
>
>Coming from a garden hose near you.

Firesign Theater (ca. 1973): "Bear Whiz Beer! It's in the water!"
--

modom
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Dave Smith wrote:

> "l, not -l" wrote:
>
>> Most Australian beer is vastly superior to Canadian; Canadian brew smells
>> and tastes much as moose **** must.
>
> Not knowing what moose **** tastes like, I will defer to your experience.

He is off the hook with "must". That shows that, unlike if he had used
"does", he is offering conjecture rather than something he knows from
personal experience.


--
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l, not -l > wrote:

>Yet InBev has said one of the main reasons they want AB is to take Bud
>international; they see that as a huge growth market.

Yes, cans of Bud are popular in Dublin and London. Because...
they're not any worse than Stella.

Despite being brewed partly from rice. (Maybe they have
an export formula that's better?)

IMO, etc. etc.

Steve

sf wrote:

> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 11:23:36 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
>
>>Budweiser is for losers. I suspect you'll switch to Miller, right?
>><snork>
>
> Now we have beer snobs? What next?

We have bitches like you.

-sw

On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 22:29:46 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>sf wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 11:23:36 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
>>
>>>Budweiser is for losers. I suspect you'll switch to Miller, right?
>>><snork>
>>
>> Now we have beer snobs? What next?
>
>We have bitches like you.
>
Got a problem with that?



--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

Steve wrote on Tue, 15 Jul 2008 02:20:09 +0000 (UTC):

>> Yet InBev has said one of the main reasons they want AB is to
>> take Bud international; they see that as a huge growth
>> market.

> Yes, cans of Bud are popular in Dublin and London. Because...
> they're not any worse than Stella.

> Despite being brewed partly from rice. (Maybe they have
> an export formula that's better?)

> IMO, etc. etc.

I don't drink Budweiser unless nothing else is available. However,
Budweiser used to be proud of the fact that they used rice and even
advertised it! Why Stella Artois wanted Budweiser, I don't know, since
they already make the Budweiser of Belgium but they probably want the
factories (no error) and distribution network.

--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

"Andy" <q> wrote in message ...
> Goodbye Budweiser!
>
> Depending on the shareholder vote, Anheiser Busch will become the property
> of
> !Bev a Belgium company.
>
> There goes the neighborhood.
>
> I shall not be drinking Bud Light any longer.
>
> Andy

Is there any hope that the Belgians will turn Bud into a decent beer,
instead of the swill it is now?

On Jul 14, 6:32 pm, Dave Smith > wrote:
> Nancy2 wrote:
> > One place where this change in ownership may have big impact, is in
> > sponsorships of "small" sports, as in minor leagues, local race
> > tracks, etc. I hate when foreign entities buy US companies and US
> > properties. There oughtta be a law. ......
>
> Oh come on. You guys have been buying up businesses and properties all over the
> world, and you hate it when the locals resent it.

We have? I dunno, it seems the balance is off. Maybe because we don't
get any good world news around here. We always hear about the Saudis
or the Japanese, though, and what the newest land purchase or
corporate sell out is....I should start watching news on BBCA.

N.

On Jul 14, 2:24 pm, Dave Smith > wrote:
> Andy wrote:
> > Goodbye Budweiser!
>
> > Depending on the shareholder vote, Anheiser Busch will become the property of
> > !Bev a Belgium company.
>
> > There goes the neighborhood.
>
> > I shall not be drinking Bud Light any longer.
>
> Funny, but that is what a lot of people think when American businesses take over
> their local operations. At least the Belgians make good beer.

Somewhere in the back of my mind, I'm thinking the Clydesdales are
Belgian - are they?

N.

On 2008-07-15, Janet > wrote:

> Is there any hope that the Belgians will turn Bud into a decent beer,
> instead of the swill it is now?

no

On 2008-07-15, Nancy2 > wrote:

> Somewhere in the back of my mind, I'm thinking the Clydesdales are
> Belgian - are they?

no

notbob > wrote:

>On 2008-07-15, Nancy2 > wrote:

>> Somewhere in the back of my mind, I'm thinking the Clydesdales are
>> Belgian - are they?

>no

Well they are now!

S.

Janet wrote:
> "Andy" <q> wrote in message ...
>> Goodbye Budweiser!
>>
>> Depending on the shareholder vote, Anheiser Busch will become the property
>> of
>> !Bev a Belgium company.
>>
>> There goes the neighborhood.
>>
>> I shall not be drinking Bud Light any longer.
>>
>> Andy
>
> Is there any hope that the Belgians will turn Bud into a decent beer,
> instead of the swill it is now?
>
>
Not likely. If they wanted to sell a quality beer here it would make
little sense to buy and spend a fortune trying to rebrand a brand
associated with mediocrity. Imagine the marketing "Bud, now its real
beer" or maybe "Bud, its new and improved, not the low quality
industrial beer you remember"

Nancy2 wrote:
> On Jul 14, 1:23 pm, wrote:
>> On Jul 14, 6:21 am, Andy <q> wrote:
>>
>>> Goodbye Budweiser!
>>> Depending on the shareholder vote, Anheiser Busch will become the property of
>>> !Bev a Belgium company.
>> It's InBev. And hopefully this will pave the way for the Belgians to
>> start utilizing Bud's distribution channels to bring us more Belgian
>> ales into the country.
>>
>> This is a good thing.
>>
>>> There goes the neighborhood.
>>> I shall not be drinking Bud Light any longer.
>> Budweiser is for losers. I suspect you'll switch to Miller, right?
>> <snork>
>>
>> -sw
>
> One place where this change in ownership may have big impact, is in
> sponsorships of "small" sports, as in minor leagues, local race
> tracks, etc. I hate when foreign entities buy US companies and US
> properties. There oughtta be a law. ......
>
> N.
Ever buy anything at walmart (or similar)? Thats the main driver because
the current $60 Billion/month trade deficit means foreign businesses
have lots of surplus dollars that need to be spent by buying US
businesses or properties.

Nancy2 wrote:
> On Jul 14, 2:24 pm, Dave Smith > wrote:
>> Andy wrote:
>>> Goodbye Budweiser!
>>
>>> Depending on the shareholder vote, Anheiser Busch will become the
>>> property of !Bev a Belgium company.
>>
>>> There goes the neighborhood.
>>
>>> I shall not be drinking Bud Light any longer.
>>
>> Funny, but that is what a lot of people think when American
>> businesses take over their local operations. At least the Belgians
>> make good beer.
>
> Somewhere in the back of my mind, I'm thinking the Clydesdales are
> Belgian - are they?

There are work horses called Belgians. I don't know how they
differ from Clydesdales.

nancy

Nancy2 wrote:

> > Oh come on. You guys have been buying up businesses and properties all over the
> > world, and you hate it when the locals resent it.
>
> We have? I dunno, it seems the balance is off. Maybe because we don't
> get any good world news around here. We always hear about the Saudis
> or the Japanese, though, and what the newest land purchase or
> corporate sell out is....I should start watching news on BBCA.

Oh come on Nancy2. You must have your head in the sand. American companies have
bought up companies and property around the world. They and the government have
supported corrupt and oppressive regimes in order to protect their interests. They
have interfered in elections and had a hand in coups and even supported tyrants like
Saddam Hussein. A lot of the goods now coming from third world countries are
manufactured by American or other foreign owned companies who moved their operations
there to take advantage of lower wages and lax employment and environmental laws.
Saudis do own a lot of American business and American debt. You can thank your
government for helping to keep the House of Saud in power.

Nancy2 wrote:

>
> >
> > Funny, but that is what a lot of people think when American businesses take over
> > their local operations. At least the Belgians make good beer.
>
> Somewhere in the back of my mind, I'm thinking the Clydesdales are
> Belgian - are they?

But in the front of your mind you probably know that Clydesdales are originally from
Clydesdale (Scotland) and that Belgian horses are from Belgium.

On 2008-07-15, Nancy Young > wrote:

> There are work horses called Belgians. I don't know how they
> differ from Clydesdales.

They are a different breed of draft horse, but are essentially the same
thing. In fact, at one time Coors maintained a stable of Belgians to pull
its beer wagons, no doubt a flash in the pan promo to imitate Bud. I saw
the whole team and rig at a local rodeo. Beautiful animals, palamino
colored and all weighing in excess of 1 ton each.

nb

Dave Smith > wrote:

>Oh come on Nancy2. You must have your head in the sand. American companies have
>bought up companies and property around the world. They and the government have
>supported corrupt and oppressive regimes in order to protect their
>interests. They
>have interfered in elections and had a hand in coups and even supported
>tyrants like
>Saddam Hussein. A lot of the goods now coming from third world countries are
>manufactured by American or other foreign owned companies who moved
>their operations
>there to take advantage of lower wages and lax employment and
>environmental laws.
>Saudis do own a lot of American business and American debt. You can thank your
>government for helping to keep the House of Saud in power.

You're right. It's all dirty. The only fully ethical approach
is to become an anarchist localvore dropout who does not
participate in the economy.

Since most people don't want to do this, the next best
thing is to limit your consumption of evil-associated
items like energy products and slave-labor manufactured goods.

What doesn't add up is to be a mindless, prolific consumer and
THEN complain about all the capitalist malfeasance around
the world. And/or to assert that your own government is somehow
less guilty of bad behavior than anyone else's.

Steve

notbob > wrote:

>On 2008-07-15, Nancy Young > wrote:

>> There are work horses called Belgians. I don't know how they
>> differ from Clydesdales.

>They are a different breed of draft horse, but are essentially the same
>thing. In fact, at one time Coors maintained a stable of Belgians to pull
>its beer wagons, no doubt a flash in the pan promo to imitate Bud. I saw
>the whole team and rig at a local rodeo. Beautiful animals, palamino
>colored and all weighing in excess of 1 ton each.

There was a Sonoma winery that used Belgian draft horses to
work the vineyards, two decades ago before the biodynamic
trend was even beginning. Bellerose Vineyards. Made a lovely,
stylish cabernet in a soft, Margaux style. I think they have been
bought out but the label still exists.

Steve

On 2008-07-15, Steve Pope > wrote:

> There was a Sonoma winery that used Belgian draft horses to
> work the vineyards, two decades ago before the biodynamic
> trend was even beginning. Bellerose Vineyards. Made a lovely,
> stylish cabernet in a soft, Margaux style. I think they have been
> bought out but the label still exists.

We may see a revival trend, now that deisel fuel is so insanely high. OTOH,
can't be cheap feeding the biggest horses on the planet.

nb

"Andy" <q> wrote in message ...
> Goodbye Budweiser!
>
> Depending on the shareholder vote, Anheiser Busch will become the property
> of
> !Bev a Belgium company.
>
> There goes the neighborhood.
>
> I shall not be drinking Bud Light any longer.
>
> Andy

Time to drop the adult Kool-Aid and learn what real brewskies are all about.

http://www.firestonewalker.com/

Try the double barrel Ale.

They make some yummy stuff.

In So Cal you'll have to look a little - Vons usually carries it.

:-)


--
Old Scoundrel

(AKA Dimitri)

On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:23:34 -0400, "Nancy Young" >
wrote:

>> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 07:33:03 -0400, "Nancy Young" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> At any rate, I opened rfc this morning and the old post it
>>> opened was kili and sf talking about coors and whether
>>> it's imported and kili said that to her Coors is domestic as
>>> Bud.
>>>
>>> nancy (as always, easily amused by weird coincidences)
>>
>> Hey, Coors *was* imported into CA all the way from Colorado or
>> whatever state it was at the time (so said the ads). Her version and
>> my version of what imported meant were a little different, that's all.
>>
>> Still defending my POV!
>
>Heh. I wasn't commenting on the debate, just the subject matter.
>I have no opinion on beer at all.
>
>nancy

well, as ben franklin may or may not have said, 'Beer is proof that
God loves us and wants us to be happy.'

your pal,
blake
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On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 18:57:48 -0700, Blinky the Shark
> wrote:

>Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> "l, not -l" wrote:
>>
>>> Most Australian beer is vastly superior to Canadian; Canadian brew smells
>>> and tastes much as moose **** must.
>>
>> Not knowing what moose **** tastes like, I will defer to your experience.
>
>He is off the hook with "must". That shows that, unlike if he had used
>"does", he is offering conjecture rather than something he knows from
>personal experience.

another shark lawyer.

your pal,
blake
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On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 22:56:19 GMT, "l, not -l" > wrote:

>
>On 14-Jul-2008, Andy <q> wrote:
>
>> Dave,
>>
>> Heck, probably all of Europe brews better beer than Budweiser.
>
>Yet InBev has said one of the main reasons they want AB is to take Bud
>international; they see that as a huge growth market.

well, they got lotsa rice in china.

your pal,
blake
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On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 23:24:07 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>On 2008-07-14, l, not -l > wrote:
>
>> Yet InBev has said one of the main reasons they want AB is to take Bud
>> international; they see that as a huge growth market.
>
>It's true. A search of the web reveals that gen x-y beer drinkers are no
>longer interested in classic german beers ...a weiss, bock, or kolsch... and
>sales of great euro beers are down while sales of US-style canoe beers are up
>all over Europe.

you kids drinking cruddy beer get off my lawn!

your pal,
blake
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On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 16:37:15 -0700, Mark Thorson >
wrote:

>notbob wrote:
>>
>> Face it, it's a McDonalds kind of world, these days. Bland cheese, lousy
>> food, watery beer, lowfat milk, flavorless vegetables, high-end vodka
>> (flavorless), etc.
>
>Yes, this is the decline of Western Civilization that
>Cato the Elder warned us was occurring. :-)

clearly, the execution of socrates had no deterrent effect.

your pal,
blake
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On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 19:39:12 +0000 (UTC),
(Steve Pope) wrote:

> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 18:28:30 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>
>>>So one might think. The bottom line is, more American workers are thrown
>>>out of work and our economy suffers one more hit. Although InBev is based
>>>in Belgium, beer Heaven, Becks and Stella Artois, InBevs two flagship beers
>>>are the bud and corona of Euro beers. IOW, conoe beer crap, jes like bud.
>
>>Oh! Well.... like I said before, it could be an improvement. They
>>might be the Budweiser of Europe, but they're considered a step up in
>>quality over here.
>
>Stella is equally as bad as Budweiser.
>
>I think the A-B owners did pretty well on this deal. And they're
>not going to stop brewing Bud in the U.S. so not that many jobs
>will be lost. They may decide to sell off a few Clysedales is all.
>
>Steve

do they eat horse meat in belgium?

your pal,
blake
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On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:10:42 -0700, sf wrote:

>On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 11:23:36 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
>
>>Budweiser is for losers. I suspect you'll switch to Miller, right?
>><snork>
>
>Now we have beer snobs? What next?

what do you mean, *now*?

your pal,
blake
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On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 23:48:06 -0700, sf wrote:

>On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 22:29:46 -0500, Sqwertz >
>wrote:
>
>>sf wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 11:23:36 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
>>>
>>>>Budweiser is for losers. I suspect you'll switch to Miller, right?
>>>><snork>
>>>
>>> Now we have beer snobs? What next?
>>
>>We have bitches like you.
>>
>Got a problem with that?

um, could be.

your pal,
blake
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On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 08:34:44 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
> wrote:

>On Jul 14, 6:32 pm, Dave Smith > wrote:
>> Nancy2 wrote:
>> > One place where this change in ownership may have big impact, is in
>> > sponsorships of "small" sports, as in minor leagues, local race
>> > tracks, etc. I hate when foreign entities buy US companies and US
>> > properties. There oughtta be a law. ......
>>
>> Oh come on. You guys have been buying up businesses and properties all over the
>> world, and you hate it when the locals resent it.
>
>We have? I dunno, it seems the balance is off. Maybe because we don't
>get any good world news around here. We always hear about the Saudis
>or the Japanese, though, and what the newest land purchase or
>corporate sell out is....I should start watching news on BBCA.
>
>N.

the thing is they have the money (a strong currency) now, and we
don't. same with the japanese some years ago, when the 'threat' was
they'd buy up all the property in new york.

your pal,
blake
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On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 23:25:43 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>On 2008-07-14, Andy <q> wrote:
>
>> I'll switch to Coors Light.
>
>Coming from a garden hose near you.

out of a picture of a fire into a lukewarm frying pan.

your pal,
blake
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