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Greetings,
I am thinking of getting a dishwasher. My concern is that my
greywater goes into a septic tank. How does using a dishwasher
compare to the amount of water used handwashing dishes.
Thanks in adavance for your opinions
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On Jul 16, 8:35*pm, pamjd > wrote:
> Greetings,
> I am thinking of getting a dishwasher. *My concern is that my
> greywater goes into a septic tank. *How does using a dishwasher
> compare to the amount of water used handwashing dishes.
> Thanks in adavance for your opinions


>
>

Automatic dishwasheres use no more water than hand washing. But if
you wash dishes with the rinse water running constantly, then hand
washing uses more water. Millions of people with septic tanks use
dishwashers with no problems.
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> Greetings,
> I am thinking of getting a dishwasher. My concern is that my
> greywater goes into a septic tank. How does using a dishwasher
> compare to the amount of water used handwashing dishes.
> Thanks in adavance for your opinions


Dishwashers use less water than handwashing. If you run full or nearly full
loads you'll have less water used, but you also get dishes that are
sanitized. Our always come out sparkling clean. I'd never be without one.


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On Wed 16 Jul 2008 07:34:08p, Edwin Pawlowski told us...

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> "pamjd" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Greetings,
>> I am thinking of getting a dishwasher. My concern is that my
>> greywater goes into a septic tank. How does using a dishwasher
>> compare to the amount of water used handwashing dishes.
>> Thanks in adavance for your opinions

>
> Dishwashers use less water than handwashing. If you run full or nearly
> full loads you'll have less water used, but you also get dishes that are
> sanitized. Our always come out sparkling clean. I'd never be without
> one.
>
>
>


Ditto, and our water does run into the septic system.

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pamjd wrote:
> Greetings,
> I am thinking of getting a dishwasher. My concern is that my
> greywater goes into a septic tank. How does using a dishwasher
> compare to the amount of water used handwashing dishes.
> Thanks in adavance for your opinions


It actually uses less water than hand washing.

My first fifth wheel trailer that we lived in had a little Sears
apartment-sized dishwasher. I used it when we didn't have a sewer hookup
at an RV site because it really saved water.

I have a septic system here at my house and I use the dishwasher all the
time. So do our neighbors who are also on septic.

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> I am thinking of getting a dishwasher. My concern is that my
> greywater goes into a septic tank. How does using a dishwasher
> compare to the amount of water used handwashing dishes.
> Thanks in adavance for your opinions


My parents had both a dishwasher and a septic tank -- never a problem after
many years of use. On the other hand, plumbers did warn them not to install
a garbage disposal with a septic tank.

MaryL

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unless you're very water-conscious when you hand-wash, dishwashers actually
use less water.


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pamjd > wrote:

> Greetings,
> I am thinking of getting a dishwasher. My concern is that my
> greywater goes into a septic tank. How does using a dishwasher
> compare to the amount of water used handwashing dishes.
> Thanks in adavance for your opinions


Consumer Reports covered that question in a review of dish washers. I
don't remember when. Their conclusion was that dishes will come out
cleaner and more sanitary by using a dish washer compared with hand
washing and that the dish washer will cost less in water and heating
then hand washing. Dish washers are more efficient from a functional
point of view and also more energy efficient. The down side is, they
take up a lot of space.
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Stan Horwitz said...

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> >,
> pamjd > wrote:
>
>> Greetings,
>> I am thinking of getting a dishwasher. My concern is that my
>> greywater goes into a septic tank. How does using a dishwasher
>> compare to the amount of water used handwashing dishes.
>> Thanks in adavance for your opinions

>
> Consumer Reports covered that question in a review of dish washers. I
> don't remember when. Their conclusion was that dishes will come out
> cleaner and more sanitary by using a dish washer compared with hand
> washing and that the dish washer will cost less in water and heating
> then hand washing. Dish washers are more efficient from a functional
> point of view and also more energy efficient. The down side is, they
> take up a lot of space.



Taking up space is not a downside. All kitchens are designed to include
one, usually, afaik.

Having a septic tank, I lean towards the paper plates and kitchen sink hand
wash the pots and pans after dining.

YMMV,

Andy
Suffers laundry detergents more. Septic tank cleansing annually.
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On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 21:54:50 -0500, "MaryL"
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>"pamjd" > wrote in message
...
>> Greetings,
>> I am thinking of getting a dishwasher. My concern is that my
>> greywater goes into a septic tank. How does using a dishwasher
>> compare to the amount of water used handwashing dishes.
>> Thanks in adavance for your opinions

>
>My parents had both a dishwasher and a septic tank -- never a problem after
>many years of use. On the other hand, plumbers did warn them not to install
>a garbage disposal with a septic tank.
>
>MaryL


When we moved into this house it had a garbage disposal and is on
septic tank. As far as I know, everyone in our area has both.


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On Thu 17 Jul 2008 02:52:58a, Stan Horwitz told us...

> In article
> >,
> pamjd > wrote:
>
>> Greetings,
>> I am thinking of getting a dishwasher. My concern is that my
>> greywater goes into a septic tank. How does using a dishwasher
>> compare to the amount of water used handwashing dishes.
>> Thanks in adavance for your opinions

>
> Consumer Reports covered that question in a review of dish washers. I
> don't remember when. Their conclusion was that dishes will come out
> cleaner and more sanitary by using a dish washer compared with hand
> washing and that the dish washer will cost less in water and heating
> then hand washing. Dish washers are more efficient from a functional
> point of view and also more energy efficient. The down side is, they
> take up a lot of space.
>


They take the equivalent space of a 24" wide base cabinet. I know I would
certainly give up one base cabinet in order to have one even if it meant
storing some things elsewhere.

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On Thu 17 Jul 2008 03:21:40a, Andy told us...

> Stan Horwitz said...
>
>> In article
>> >,
>> pamjd > wrote:
>>
>>> Greetings,
>>> I am thinking of getting a dishwasher. My concern is that my
>>> greywater goes into a septic tank. How does using a dishwasher
>>> compare to the amount of water used handwashing dishes.
>>> Thanks in adavance for your opinions

>>
>> Consumer Reports covered that question in a review of dish washers. I
>> don't remember when. Their conclusion was that dishes will come out
>> cleaner and more sanitary by using a dish washer compared with hand
>> washing and that the dish washer will cost less in water and heating
>> then hand washing. Dish washers are more efficient from a functional
>> point of view and also more energy efficient. The down side is, they
>> take up a lot of space.

>
>
> Taking up space is not a downside. All kitchens are designed to include
> one, usually, afaik.
>
> Having a septic tank, I lean towards the paper plates and kitchen sink
> hand wash the pots and pans after dining.
>
> YMMV,
>
> Andy
> Suffers laundry detergents more. Septic tank cleansing annually.
>


Septic systems are not that fragile. They can easily handle daily loads of
water from a dishwasher. It's the other "crap" (no pun intended) that
people flush down toilets or grease that's poured down sinks that do the
most damage.

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The Cook wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 21:54:50 -0500, "MaryL"
> -OUT-THE-LITTER> wrote:
>
>> "pamjd" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Greetings,
>>> I am thinking of getting a dishwasher. My concern is that my
>>> greywater goes into a septic tank. How does using a dishwasher
>>> compare to the amount of water used handwashing dishes.
>>> Thanks in adavance for your opinions

>> My parents had both a dishwasher and a septic tank -- never a problem after
>> many years of use. On the other hand, plumbers did warn them not to install
>> a garbage disposal with a septic tank.
>>
>> MaryL

>
> When we moved into this house it had a garbage disposal and is on
> septic tank. As far as I know, everyone in our area has both.


I have a disposal and a septic system, too. I'm careful about what I let
into the disposal. Mostly stuff that comes off pots and dishes.

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On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 18:35:58 -0700 (PDT), pamjd >
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>I am thinking of getting a dishwasher. My concern is that my
>greywater goes into a septic tank. How does using a dishwasher
>compare to the amount of water used handwashing dishes.
>Thanks in adavance for your opinions


The dishes (plates, glasses, flatware) I wash in the dishwasher are
hands down cleaner than when I do them by hand. I wouldn't go back to
having no dishwasher for love or money.


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We use dish drawers here, it's like 2 dish washers in one. You can wash
each drawer independently of the other so it saves water.


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On Wed 16 Jul 2008 06:35:58p, pamjd told us...

> Greetings,
> I am thinking of getting a dishwasher. My concern is that my
> greywater goes into a septic tank. How does using a dishwasher
> compare to the amount of water used handwashing dishes.
> Thanks in adavance for your opinions
>


Generally, dishwashers actually use less water than handwashing and rinsing
by hand. We are on a septic tank system as well, and have had no problem
from any water coming from the dishwasher or clothes washer. I run a
minimum of one dishwasher load per day during the week. If I do a lot of
cooking on weekends, I might run it 2-3 times each day.

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Andy wrote:
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> Having a septic tank, I lean towards the paper plates and kitchen sink hand
> wash the pots and pans after dining.


If you eat everything from paper plates you must have some limited
menu... baloney sammiches and that ilk every meal....

Hand washing uses more water, more energy to heat water, and more
cleaning product than a dishwasher. And for small families there is
rarely a reason to use more than one pot per meal... most folks
usually go all week never using any cookware other than what goes in
the microwave/toaster oven, and these days much of that cookware goes
in the trash.

On the plus side hand washing after each meal allows one to need very
little by way of dishes and flatware.... you don't even need to spend
money on paper plates, eat sammiches and such directly off a paper
towel, or newspaper.. didja know that newsprint is sterile.

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On Thu 31 Jul 2008 06:17:41a, Janet Baraclough told us...

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> from Noodles > contains
> these words:
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>
>> We use dish drawers here, it's like 2 dish washers in one. You can wash
>> each drawer independently of the other so it saves water.

>
> We use calendars here, for secret reasons you wouldn't understand.
>
> Janet.
>
>


Huh? It must be very secret. I doubt anyone here understands.

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Sheldon said...

> If you eat everything from paper plates you must have some limited
> menu... baloney sammiches and that ilk every meal....



Here we have yet another perfect example of a typical Sheldon mental block
conclusion.

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On Thu 31 Jul 2008 08:12:47a, Andy told us...

> Sheldon said...
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>> If you eat everything from paper plates you must have some limited
>> menu... baloney sammiches and that ilk every meal....

>
>
> Here we have yet another perfect example of a typical Sheldon mental

block
> conclusion.
>
> Andy
>


Head served on a silver platter...worth $$$ Sheldon's brain served on a
paper plate...PRICELESS!

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On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 08:02:33 -0400, Noodles
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>We use dish drawers here, it's like 2 dish washers in one. You can wash
>each drawer independently of the other so it saves water.


My Fisher Paykel dishwasher has the two dishwasher drawers and I just
love it. Since it's just the two of us, we don't fill up a dishwasher
very fast, so being able to run a smaller load, using just one drawer,
is very handy and, as you point out, an energy saver.

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