On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:31:37 -0400, "Kswck" >
wrote:
>
>"Goomba" > wrote in message
...
>> Kswck wrote:
<snip>
>>>
>>>
>> You need to help readers here identify what you've actually written
>> yourself versus the quotes of others posted before your response.
>
>I assume those others have been following the thread.
>
It hasn't been easy.

General Preferences > Quoting > Prefix for quoted lines


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"Kswck" > wrote in message
>>>
>> You need to help readers here identify what you've actually written
>> yourself versus the quotes of others posted before your response.
>
> I assume those others have been following the thread.
>

Without some trimming and without some >>> markings the post was very
confusing. Hard to see where you started and Sheldon left off.

On Jul 21, 5:20Â*pm, Sheldon > wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton Â*wrote:
> > Sheldon wrote:
>
> > > Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > > "The Ranger" wrote:
>
> > > > > Would you bribe your way in to a high-caliber restaurant?
>
> > > > No. Â*I probably wouldn't go to a high-caliber restaurant if it didn't
> > > > require a bribe, either.
>
> > My husband usually gets the rack of lamb.
> > I usually get some sort of fish. �
>
> Your husband's rack of lamb used up most of your $70 tab, you must
> have had a tuna salad sandwich.

The lamb is $29, according to their web site (http://
www.pacificrimbykana.com).
Looks like prices are up since the last time we were there. Let's
see, if we went
there tonight, we'd probably order this (of course my husband could
throw me a
surprise and get something else):

$29 rack of lamb
$26 Japanese-style sablefish
$ 8 Warm chocoloate cake
$ 4 sales tax (approximately)
$15 tip
------
$82 total

Pretty close to $70, considering how quickly prices have been
going up lately.

> I went back to reread your original response to The Ranger's
> question... Â*wasn't quite clear to me then so I gave you the benefit
> of doubt, but based on your present position your original response
> now makes no sense whatsoever (you can't have it both ways), unless
> you truly meant that you wouldn't go to a high-caliber restaurant
> unless it did indeed require a bribe.

I probably wouldn't go to a really high-caliber restaurant at all. If
it required a bribe, I definitely wouldn't go.

> Why do so many place a comma before ending a sentence with either...
> is that how you speak, are you a stutterer?

What do you care?

Cindy Hamilton

On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:15:20 +0200, "Giusi" >
wrote:

>"Sheldon" > ha scritto nel messaggio
...
>>> "Karen" wrote
>>> > Sheldon wrote:
>>>
>>> > That's nonsense, you can't come to a conclusion based on one (1)
>>> > person's personal experience at one (1) eatery.
>>>
>>> > It's been my experience over many years at many, many restaurants that
>>> > most of the staff staff is female, and most men tip more generously
>>> > than women, and all things being equal men tip females better than
>>> > they tip males. Yes, men do most of the tipping, and that's why most
>>> > restaurant service staff is female. And if I have to explain it to
>>> > you then you likely won't get it.
>>>
>>> Tipping doesn't seem to have gender definitions, but bribing is a
>>> dance between the male customer and male maitre d.
>>>
>>> Karen
>>
>> Only if ***.
>>
>> In the US a maitre d is rare, a hostess is typical.
>>
>> I just knew there'd be someone who never learned about the birds and
>> bees. *Everything* is sex... this is an indisputable fact of life...
>> sex sells, always has since the Garden of Eden, always will. Most
>> women don't know how to tip, they don't want to know how to tip,
>> because society still views handling money as a male venue. Most
>> women view tipping as unfeminine, for that very reason many of those
>> females who do know how to tip purposely pretend ignorance.
>>
>> Tipping is not a bribe, tipping is never a bribe... anyone who views
>> tipping as a bribe is an extortionist. Anyone who attmpts to bribe by
>> over tipping is a schmuck, a guinea wanna be maffioso, or both.
>> Tipping is payment for *more/better* service than what is contracted
>> for in the posted price. Tipping is extra pay for extra service.
>> People who take the extra service but don't pay are thieves. People
>> who think tipping is bribery are those who never learned to say
>> please, thank you, and excuse me... those who never learned to tip
>> never learned social graces... make no mistake about it, a host/ess
>> gift is a tip, you obviously don't... the obverse of tipping is
>> schnorring.
>>
>> I refuse to socialize with wallet fumblers... when a date is set to go
>> out to dinner (or wherever) and on the way the other guy has to stop
>> at an ATM I quickly develop an illness because the fact that they
>> didn't have cash on them when they left home (and even if they did but
>> made a point of bringing up the money even before the evening began)
>> is their way of signaling that money is very important to them and to
>> such an extent that they are the kind of cheap ******* who carries
>> their cash in a money clip, a mess of singles wrapped in a twenty,
>> they're easy to spot, they typically wear a pinky ring... they're all
>> show and no go, they drive a leased car and need viagra. From
>> experience I know it's best to opt out quickly, I just know that they
>> are going to be a big embarrassment... anyone who makes a public
>> display about filling their wallet with cash is going to make a bigger
>> public display when it's time to withdraw cash from their wallet.
>> And I don't socialize with people who don't carry cash, and especially
>> not those who pinch pennies at tipping time. When it comes time to
>> pay the tab you want to pick up my cash and pay with your plastic I
>> will never accept another invite from you. And in fact you can't have
>> my cash (I ain't your friggin' ATM), you're on your own and it's
>> adios. Anyone draws plastic on me it had better be your corporate
>> card because you're treating... and it's adios anyway.
>>
>>
>Honestly, you have the most bizarre life and the most bizarre take on life I
>have ever heard in the English language. You also do not understand half of
>what you say yourself.
>
>Anybody who uses an ATM has a pinky ring and is a mafioso-- uh, I am backing
>away from that one because the stench could knock you over.
>

sheldon is definitely a study in something-or-other. i bet his shrink
wakes up screaming from nightmares.

your pal,
blake
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On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 06:09:28 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Jul 21, 5:20*pm, Sheldon > wrote:
>
>> Why do so many place a comma before ending a sentence with either...
>> is that how you speak, are you a stutterer?
>
>What do you care?
>
>Cindy Hamilton

there's nothing incorrect about it. sheldon's displaying his
ignorance once again.

your pal,
blake

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On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:31:37 -0400, "Kswck" >
wrote:

>
>"Goomba" > wrote in message
...
>> Kswck wrote:
>>>
>> You need to help readers here identify what you've actually written
>> yourself versus the quotes of others posted before your response.
>
>I assume those others have been following the thread.
>

still, i would take some pains to make sure what (i assume to be)
sheldon's thoughts aren't taken for my own. <shudder>

your pal,
blake
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"Cindy Hamilton" > ha

I probably wouldn't go to a really high-caliber restaurant at all. If
it required a bribe, I definitely wouldn't go.

Cindy Hamilton

How high caliber can a restaurant be if you have to give someone money to
sit in a decent place? There are obviously some testosterone haunted types
who feel sure no one will let them sit and eat unless they distribute some
dough here and there. I prefer to think that most restaurants are eagerly
awaiting my custom, but that I may need to make a reservation if they are
very busy places.
If you give a gift of money after receiving service that's a tip. If you
give money in hopes of service, that's a bribe. It is clear as glass to me,
but I have nearly no testosterone.
Let's bring sanity back to dining out. Cindy, just let me know when you
would have gone out but didn't, and I will also not go out in support.

Giusi wrote on Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:35:03 +0200:

> I probably wouldn't go to a really high-caliber restaurant at all. If
> it required a bribe, I definitely wouldn't go.

> Cindy Hamilton
.................................................. ...............................
How high caliber can a restaurant be if you have to give someone money
to
sit in a decent place? There are obviously some testosterone haunted
types
who feel sure no one will let them sit and eat unless they distribute
some
dough here and there. I prefer to think that most restaurants are
eagerly
awaiting my custom, but that I may need to make a reservation if they
are
very busy places.
If you give a gift of money after receiving service that's a tip. If
you
give money in hopes of service, that's a bribe. It is clear as glass to
me,
but I have nearly no testosterone.
Let's bring sanity back to dining out. Cindy, just let me know when you
would have gone out but didn't, and I will also not go out in support.
.................................................. ...............................

My sentiments entirely. Bribes downgrade the society in which you live.
I'll admit I've been tempted but never had the nerve to put a $20 bill
behind my driving licence :-)

--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:35:03 +0200, "Giusi" >
wrote:

>Let's bring sanity back to dining out. Cindy, just let me know when you
>would have gone out but didn't, and I will also not go out in support.

I'll join you. I love great service, but really... what could be the
fine differences between $100 and $250+ US prix fix (no wine) per
person?


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On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:50:52 GMT, "James Silverton"
> wrote:

>I'll admit I've been tempted but never had the nerve to put a $20 bill
>behind my driving licence :-)

It won't get you anything but grief these days anyway.


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sf wrote on Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:01:24 -0700:

>> I'll admit I've been tempted but never had the nerve to put a
>> $20 bill behind my driving licence :-)

> It won't get you anything but grief these days anyway.

The amount might be debated but, since you seem knowledgeable, how much
do *you* pay to avoid a $70 speeding ticket?

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Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:22:30 GMT, "James Silverton"
> wrote:

> sf wrote on Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:01:24 -0700:
>
>>> I'll admit I've been tempted but never had the nerve to put a
>>> $20 bill behind my driving licence :-)
>
>> It won't get you anything but grief these days anyway.
>
>The amount might be debated but, since you seem knowledgeable, how much
>do *you* pay to avoid a $70 speeding ticket?

I'm not even allowed to take it out of the wallet, James. They are
*very* careful to avoid being bribed.

BTW: I've only gotten one speeding ticket which was 20 years ago and
it was considerably over $300. We help the poor and fix pot holes
with our speeding tickets.


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On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:01:24 -0700, sf wrote:

>On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:50:52 GMT, "James Silverton"
> wrote:
>
>>I'll admit I've been tempted but never had the nerve to put a $20 bill
>>behind my driving licence :-)
>
>It won't get you anything but grief these days anyway.

I go to the gym at 5:00 a.m. every work day and don't want to carry my
purse, so I just tuck a $20 in the wallet I carry my driver's license
in case I want to run by the market on the way home from the gym. Got
pulled over with a bad taillight and pretty much had to talk my way
out of jail after being accused of offering a bribe. My sweaty self
was finally persuasive.

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd

"What kind of jackassery do I have to put up with today?"

Danae in "Non Sequitir"

On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:22:30 GMT, "James Silverton"
> wrote:

> sf wrote on Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:01:24 -0700:
>
>>> I'll admit I've been tempted but never had the nerve to put a
>>> $20 bill behind my driving licence :-)
>
>> It won't get you anything but grief these days anyway.
>
>The amount might be debated but, since you seem knowledgeable, how much
>do *you* pay to avoid a $70 speeding ticket?

certain areas of the country aside, i don't think bribing public
servants really pays off until you reach the upper echelons. in
montgomery co. (md), you can pretty much forget about it.

your pal,
blake
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On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:35:48 -0700, Terryl Pulliam Burd
> wrote:

>On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:01:24 -0700, sf wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:50:52 GMT, "James Silverton"
> wrote:
>>
>>>I'll admit I've been tempted but never had the nerve to put a $20 bill
>>>behind my driving licence :-)
>>
>>It won't get you anything but grief these days anyway.
>
>I go to the gym at 5:00 a.m. every work day and don't want to carry my
>purse, so I just tuck a $20 in the wallet I carry my driver's license
>in case I want to run by the market on the way home from the gym. Got
>pulled over with a bad taillight and pretty much had to talk my way
>out of jail after being accused of offering a bribe. My sweaty self
>was finally persuasive.
>

i would have thought you'd just flash your fabulous gams.

your pal,
blake
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In article >,
Terryl Pulliam Burd > wrote:

> On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:01:24 -0700, sf wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:50:52 GMT, "James Silverton"
> > wrote:
> >
> >>I'll admit I've been tempted but never had the nerve to put a $20 bill
> >>behind my driving licence :-)
> >
> >It won't get you anything but grief these days anyway.
>
> I go to the gym at 5:00 a.m. every work day and don't want to carry my
> purse, so I just tuck a $20 in the wallet I carry my driver's license
> in case I want to run by the market on the way home from the gym. Got
> pulled over with a bad taillight and pretty much had to talk my way
> out of jail after being accused of offering a bribe. My sweaty self
> was finally persuasive.
>
> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
>
> "What kind of jackassery do I have to put up with today?"
>
> Danae in "Non Sequitir"

Heh! The mother of the Blue Ribbon Granddaughter puts her DL in her
badge case so her badge is visible when she shows her DL. She says it's
saved her at least one speeding ticket. :-/

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Terryl Pulliam Burd wrote:

>
> "What kind of jackassery do I have to put up with today?"
>
> Danae in "Non Sequitir"

It's actually "And what manner of jackassery must we put up with today?!"

http://p-userpic.livejournal.com/19846524/234506

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