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On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:21:30 +0100, Adam Funk > wrote:
>When I substitute Old Bay or HotSalt for salt in bread-machine
>recipes, I've been adding 50% of the volume --- based on pure guesswork.


I could help you with the chemistry, but I use Morton Salt Substitute instead,
which is KCl, so I'm not experienced, have never been experienced, in humani-
form resalting.

>Assuming that % w/w is not too far of from % v/v, that means I should
>use about 50% more Old Bay, or 33% more HotSalt, than the volume of
>salt in the recipe.
>
>Is that reasonable?


What does it _taste_ like?

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When I substitute Old Bay or HotSalt for salt in bread-machine
recipes, I've been adding 50% of the volume --- based on pure
guesswork.

Now I want to try science, but it's been (um) a while since I took
chemistry.


According to the nutritional label, a 1.2 g serving of Old Bay
contains 330 mg of sodium.

Na has a formula weight of 22.99, Cl of 35.45, so I reckon 330 mg of
sodium corresponds to 839 mg of NaCl. Dividing that by 1200 mg tells
me that Old Bay is 70% w/w NaCl.

Similarly, the label on HotSalt says 330 mg sodium per 1.1 g serving,
so that's 75% w/w.

Assuming that % w/w is not too far of from % v/v, that means I should
use about 50% more Old Bay, or 33% more HotSalt, than the volume of
salt in the recipe.


Is that reasonable?

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"Adam Funk" > wrote in message
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> When I substitute Old Bay or HotSalt for salt in bread-machine
> recipes, I've been adding 50% of the volume --- based on pure
> guesswork.
>
> Now I want to try science, but it's been (um) a while since I took
> chemistry.
>
>
> According to the nutritional label, a 1.2 g serving of Old Bay
> contains 330 mg of sodium.
>
> Na has a formula weight of 22.99, Cl of 35.45, so I reckon 330 mg of
> sodium corresponds to 839 mg of NaCl. Dividing that by 1200 mg tells
> me that Old Bay is 70% w/w NaCl.
>
> Similarly, the label on HotSalt says 330 mg sodium per 1.1 g serving,
> so that's 75% w/w.
>
> Assuming that % w/w is not too far of from % v/v, that means I should
> use about 50% more Old Bay, or 33% more HotSalt, than the volume of
> salt in the recipe.
>
>
> Is that reasonable?


What is reasonable is the results you re getting.

IIRC The salt in breadmaker recipes has 2 functions:

First it adds flavor to the bread.
Second it retards/restricts the growth of yeast to get the proper rise each
time.

What is the texture of the bread you're making?

http://www.redstaryeast.com/kneadednotes3.html

SALT controls yeast activity to achieve a slow, steady rise and it
strengthens the dough structure; eliminating salt can result in a baked
bread that has collapsed.
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On Jul 21, 1:21 pm, Adam Funk > wrote:
> When I substitute Old Bay or HotSalt for salt in bread-machine
> recipes, I've been adding 50% of the volume --- based on pure
> guesswork.
>
> Now I want to try science, but it's been (um) a while since I took
> chemistry.
>
> According to the nutritional label, a 1.2 g serving of Old Bay
> contains 330 mg of sodium.
>
> Na has a formula weight of 22.99, Cl of 35.45, so I reckon 330 mg of
> sodium corresponds to 839 mg of NaCl. Dividing that by 1200 mg tells
> me that Old Bay is 70% w/w NaCl.
>
> Similarly, the label on HotSalt says 330 mg sodium per 1.1 g serving,
> so that's 75% w/w.
>
> Assuming that % w/w is not too far of from % v/v, that means I should
> use about 50% more Old Bay, or 33% more HotSalt, than the volume of
> salt in the recipe.
>
> Is that reasonable?


What 'reasoning' are you using, that you need to match your Minimum
Daily Requirement for sodium?

Unless you're trying to pre-determine the day you'll need to book
the cardiology ward, why not go with the other, empiricism-based
responses; do you like the bread's taste, and did it rise to your
satisfaction?

(And btw %wt. has little to do with %vol.)


Dr. Hot"a doctorate does not an expert make"Salt


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"David DeLaney" > wrote

>>> >Is that reasonable?
>>>
>>> What does it _taste_ like?

>>
>>Terrible!
>>
>>Wait, I told that right.

>
> <runs out of room blushing>


The bread also rises.

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On 2008-07-22, Dr. HotSalt wrote:

> Unless you're trying to pre-determine the day you'll need to book
> the cardiology ward, why not go with the other, empiricism-based
> responses; do you like the bread's taste, and did it rise to your
> satisfaction?


Yes, it's good. (Fnarr rejected.)

> (And btw %wt. has little to do with %vol.)


I thought that was the weak point in it.

> Dr. Hot"a doctorate does not an expert make"Salt


Well, I'll take your advice with a grain, um, never mind.


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On 2008-07-21, Dimitri wrote:

> What is reasonable is the results you re getting.


I'm getting good results. Really, I just wanted to get my
calculations and recollection of high-school chemistry checked.


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On 2008-07-21, David DeLaney wrote:

> What does it _taste_ like?


It's good. Are my calculations right?


> Dave "and do you have an indentured kitchen-helper whom you can whack with a
> wooden spoon and teach your sekrits to?" DeLaney


Are you looking for a career change?


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Adam Funk > wrote:
>On 2008-07-21, David DeLaney wrote:
>> What does it _taste_ like?

>
>It's good. Are my calculations right?


Could be. We'll have to wait and see if you mutate, of course.

>> Dave "and do you have an indentured kitchen-helper whom you can whack with a
>> wooden spoon and teach your sekrits to?" DeLaney

>
>Are you looking for a career change?


Not really. I mean, the sore toes and balls of the feet are no substitute for
an actual clubfoot, though I do have a passable hunch in my back. But the
career-and-a-half I currently have is working at the moment...

Dave "waiting for unexpected predicted forthcomings" DeLaney
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On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:13:02 +0100, Adam Funk >
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>On 2008-07-21, David DeLaney wrote:
>
>> What does it _taste_ like?

>
>It's good. Are my calculations right?
>
>
>> Dave "and do you have an indentured kitchen-helper whom you can whack with a
>> wooden spoon and teach your sekrits to?" DeLaney

>
>Are you looking for a career change?


personally, i'm looking into the 'bloated plutocrat' field, but there
don't seem to be many openings.

your pal,
blake
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