Did anyone else catch this on the CBS early show today? This morning I
was up early and caught this piece on the early morning news show. I was
shouting at the TV (as if the woman featured would hear me herself)
because of the stupidity this woman's story displayed as she spoke of
buying double the quantity needed and then throwing half the food away
afraid it was bad. She displayed broccoli and said she would cook half
that night, and the rest would be thrown away in two days if not cooked
and eaten by then. No mention of actually looking at each item to
determine if it had gone bad...just the false assumption it might be bad
so toss it out! What a ditz.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/...n4285083.shtml

Goomba wrote:
>
> Did anyone else catch this on the CBS early show today? This morning I
> was up early and caught this piece on the early morning news show. I was
> shouting at the TV (as if the woman featured would hear me herself)
> because of the stupidity this woman's story displayed as she spoke of
> buying double the quantity needed and then throwing half the food away
> afraid it was bad. She displayed broccoli and said she would cook half
> that night, and the rest would be thrown away in two days if not cooked
> and eaten by then. No mention of actually looking at each item to
> determine if it had gone bad...just the false assumption it might be bad
> so toss it out! What a ditz.
>
> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/...n4285083.shtml

Gee, I finished off week old seafood chowder for lunch today and I'm not
dead yet... *glurk* *thud!*

On Wed 23 Jul 2008 08:36:59p, Pete C. told us...

>
> Goomba wrote:
>>
>> Did anyone else catch this on the CBS early show today? This morning I
>> was up early and caught this piece on the early morning news show. I
>> was shouting at the TV (as if the woman featured would hear me herself)
>> because of the stupidity this woman's story displayed as she spoke of
>> buying double the quantity needed and then throwing half the food away
>> afraid it was bad. She displayed broccoli and said she would cook half
>> that night, and the rest would be thrown away in two days if not cooked
>> and eaten by then. No mention of actually looking at each item to
>> determine if it had gone bad...just the false assumption it might be
>> bad so toss it out! What a ditz.
>>
>> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/...butors/susanko
>> eppen/main4285083.shtml
>
> Gee, I finished off week old seafood chowder for lunch today and I'm not
> dead yet... *glurk* *thud!*
>

We haver a 3-day rule for most leftovers. Not all spoilage is evident by
appearance or taste.

--
Wayne Boatwright
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Wednesday, 07(VII)/23(XXIII)/08(MMVIII)
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One-seventh of your life is spent on a
Monday.
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Goomba wrote:
> Did anyone else catch this on the CBS early show today? This morning I
> was up early and caught this piece on the early morning news show. I
> was shouting at the TV (as if the woman featured would hear me
> herself) because of the stupidity this woman's story displayed as she
> spoke of buying double the quantity needed and then throwing half the
> food away afraid it was bad.

If she knows she has this issue, then buying double isn't working for
her. Either get over this fear of 3 day old produce or start buying
frozen, or learning how to freeze produce.

Maybe if she stopped to think the produce is already a few days old,
to say the least, in the store, she can see she's being silly and to get
over her little phobia.

> She displayed broccoli and said she
> would cook half that night, and the rest would be thrown away in two
> days if not cooked and eaten by then. No mention of actually looking
> at each item to determine if it had gone bad...just the false
> assumption it might be bad so toss it out! What a ditz.

I saw something about even supermarkets are trying to buy in smaller
quantities so they don't have to toss so much produce.

nancy

Wayne Boatwright wrote:

> We haver a 3-day rule for most leftovers. Not all spoilage is evident by
> appearance or taste.
>
This woman was tossing out uncooked raw broccoli, not leftovers! Would
you have tossed that out without just looking at it to see if it still
looked good enough to cook and eat?

Goomba > wrote:
> Did anyone else catch this on the CBS early show today? This morning I
> was up early and caught this piece on the early morning news show. I
> was shouting at the TV (as if the woman featured would hear me
> herself) because of the stupidity this woman's story displayed as she
> spoke of buying double the quantity needed and then throwing half the
> food away afraid it was bad. She displayed broccoli and said she
> would cook half that night, and the rest would be thrown away in two
> days if not cooked and eaten by then. No mention of actually looking
> at each item to determine if it had gone bad...just the false
> assumption it might be bad so toss it out! What a ditz.
>
> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/...n4285083.shtml

Love this:

"Lori Johnston, a mom to three growing teens in Monroe Township, N.J., told
Koeppen they all have completely different ideas of what to eat, which means
having enough food on hand to make sure everyone gets what they want. But
that means not everything gets eaten, and plenty ends up in the trash.

Also, says Johnston, "I am throwing out so much stuff because now, with the
price of gas, I am buying double the stuff so I don't have to go to the
store.""


So she's worried about the price of gas so she's buying double and then
throwing away food. What a DITZ! The kids are teens; presumeably they have
grasped basic communication skills. It's not like she can't say look, if I
buy this [because you want it/asked for it] you *have* to eat it. Then
again, I don't recall my mother catering to each of our whims when she went
to the grocery store.

Jill

Mathematical illiteracy is at an all time high in this country. People are
stark raving mad about terrorism (no thanks to the government)when they are
much more likely to die on the road.

That's why retailers can seduce people with sales & coupons so easily.
People don't have the brains to "do the math" or are too lazy to anymore.

"Goomba" > wrote in message
...
> Did anyone else catch this on the CBS early show today? This morning I was
> up early and caught this piece on the early morning news show. I was
> shouting at the TV (as if the woman featured would hear me herself)
> because of the stupidity this woman's story displayed as she spoke of
> buying double the quantity needed and then throwing half the food away
> afraid it was bad. She displayed broccoli and said she would cook half
> that night, and the rest would be thrown away in two days if not cooked
> and eaten by then. No mention of actually looking at each item to
> determine if it had gone bad...just the false assumption it might be bad
> so toss it out! What a ditz.
>

Too bad they didn't include a segment on composting. That way it doesn't go
completely to waste, and it doesn't enter the waste stream.

On Thu 24 Jul 2008 03:28:42a, Goomba told us...

> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
>> We haver a 3-day rule for most leftovers. Not all spoilage is evident
by
>> appearance or taste.
>>
> This woman was tossing out uncooked raw broccoli, not leftovers! Would
> you have tossed that out without just looking at it to see if it still
> looked good enough to cook and eat?

No, of course not, and I meant to add that to my post. I keep raw produce
as long as it still looks and smell fresh. Meats, OTOH, I pop in the
freezer a day or so after the sell by date if I can't use it right away.

--
Wayne Boatwright
-------------------------------------------
Thursday, 07(VII)/24(XXIV)/08(MMVIII)
-------------------------------------------
-------------------------------------------
I eat Swiss cheese from the inside out.
-------------------------------------------

jmcquown wrote:
> Goomba > wrote:

>> days if not cooked and eaten by then. No mention of actually looking
>> at each item to determine if it had gone bad...just the false
>> assumption it might be bad so toss it out! What a ditz.
>>
>> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/...n4285083.shtml
>
> "Lori Johnston, a mom to three growing teens in Monroe Township,
> N.J., told Koeppen they all have completely different ideas of what
> to eat, which means having enough food on hand to make sure everyone
> gets what they want. But that means not everything gets eaten, and
> plenty ends up in the trash.
> Also, says Johnston, "I am throwing out so much stuff because now,
> with the price of gas, I am buying double the stuff so I don't have
> to go to the store.""

She lives in the town where my inlaws lived. While it's not
covered with stores and supermarkets, she only has maybe a
10 minute drive to the store.

Of course, anything you see in the paper or on tv, you have
to wonder if you got the whole story. But, as is, the story is
pretty silly.

> So she's worried about the price of gas so she's buying double and
> then throwing away food.

Makes no sense. She can spend in two seconds more than the
cost of the gas to get there, and if it goes into the garbage, she
wasted more money than making a second trip!

> What a DITZ! The kids are teens;
> presumeably they have grasped basic communication skills. It's not
> like she can't say look, if I buy this [because you want it/asked for
> it] you *have* to eat it. Then again, I don't recall my mother
> catering to each of our whims when she went to the grocery store.

She's got to get her children on board with the food situation. And
she's got to get over throwing out food because she's afraid of it.

nancy

Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Wed 23 Jul 2008 08:36:59p, Pete C. told us...
>
>> Goomba wrote:
>>> Did anyone else catch this on the CBS early show today? This morning I
>>> was up early and caught this piece on the early morning news show. I
>>> was shouting at the TV (as if the woman featured would hear me herself)
>>> because of the stupidity this woman's story displayed as she spoke of
>>> buying double the quantity needed and then throwing half the food away
>>> afraid it was bad. She displayed broccoli and said she would cook half
>>> that night, and the rest would be thrown away in two days if not cooked
>>> and eaten by then. No mention of actually looking at each item to
>>> determine if it had gone bad...just the false assumption it might be
>>> bad so toss it out! What a ditz.
>>>
>>> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/...butors/susanko
>>> eppen/main4285083.shtml
>> Gee, I finished off week old seafood chowder for lunch today and I'm not
>> dead yet... *glurk* *thud!*
>>
>
> We haver a 3-day rule for most leftovers. Not all spoilage is evident by
> appearance or taste.
>
If it hasn't turned green or grown white hairs we'll eat it.

"James Silverton" > wrote in news:rH%hk.456
$oU.93@trnddc07:

> Chile wrote on Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:15:37 +0000:
>
>> Mathematical illiteracy is at an all time high in this
>> country. People are stark raving mad about terrorism (no
>> thanks to the government)when they are much more likely to die
>> on the road.
>
>> That's why retailers can seduce people with sales & coupons so
>> easily. People don't have the brains to "do the math" or are
>> too lazy to anymore.
>
> There are words to describe "mathematical illiteracy" like innumerate
> and innumeracy. The condition is not the result of lack of intelligence
> but just laziness and the innumerate partially deserve what they get.

I actually have the book "Innumeracy" and loved reasing it. A great read
for anyone who likes statistics and related studies.

On Jul 23, 11:36 pm, "Pete C." > wrote:
> Goomba wrote:
>
> > Did anyone else catch this on the CBS early show today? This morning I
> > was up early and caught this piece on the early morning news show. I was
> > shouting at the TV (as if the woman featured would hear me herself)
> > because of the stupidity this woman's story displayed as she spoke of
> > buying double the quantity needed and then throwing half the food away
> > afraid it was bad. She displayed broccoli and said she would cook half
> > that night, and the rest would be thrown away in two days if not cooked
> > and eaten by then. No mention of actually looking at each item to
> > determine if it had gone bad...just the false assumption it might be bad
> > so toss it out! What a ditz.
>
> >http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/...tributors/susa...
>
> Gee, I finished off week old seafood chowder for lunch today and I'm not
> dead yet... *glurk* *thud!*

I'm with you on that. If it passes the sniff test, I eat it. Some of
my
coworkers are so sensitive to illness you look at them crosseyed and
they get sick (nerves?). If it sits in the fridge longer than a week,
I'll heat it,
cool it, and freeze it.

I had too much fruit (I'm a junkie when the price is low) before going
on
a trip, so I cut it up, pureed it, and froze it til I came back.
Fruit soup,
fruit substitution for some of the fat in muffins, fruit puree on my
cereal
in the morning.

Half of what we produce goes to waste, why would someone want to
waste half of that half again?

Carbon footprint my butt. Some people need to step into the compost
pile.

maxine in ri

Chile wrote on Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:15:37 +0000:

> Mathematical illiteracy is at an all time high in this
> country. People are stark raving mad about terrorism (no
> thanks to the government)when they are much more likely to die
> on the road.

> That's why retailers can seduce people with sales & coupons so
> easily. People don't have the brains to "do the math" or are
> too lazy to anymore.

There are words to describe "mathematical illiteracy" like innumerate
and innumeracy. The condition is not the result of lack of intelligence
but just laziness and the innumerate partially deserve what they get.
--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 00:14:53 -0400, "Nancy Young" >
wrote:

>Goomba wrote:
>> Did anyone else catch this on the CBS early show today? This morning I
>> was up early and caught this piece on the early morning news show. I
>> was shouting at the TV (as if the woman featured would hear me
>> herself) because of the stupidity this woman's story displayed as she
>> spoke of buying double the quantity needed and then throwing half the
>> food away afraid it was bad.
>
>If she knows she has this issue, then buying double isn't working for
>her. Either get over this fear of 3 day old produce or start buying
>frozen, or learning how to freeze produce.
>
>Maybe if she stopped to think the produce is already a few days old,
>to say the least, in the store, she can see she's being silly and to get
>over her little phobia.
>
>> She displayed broccoli and said she
>> would cook half that night, and the rest would be thrown away in two
>> days if not cooked and eaten by then. No mention of actually looking
>> at each item to determine if it had gone bad...just the false
>> assumption it might be bad so toss it out! What a ditz.
>
>I saw something about even supermarkets are trying to buy in smaller
>quantities so they don't have to toss so much produce.
>
>nancy

still, i wish some of the pre-packaged stuff came in smaller amounts.
(i cook mostly for one.) thank god for the bulk items! (my grocery
recently stopped selling loose mushrooms, which ****ed me off.)

your pal,
blake
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Goomba wrote:
> Did anyone else catch this on the CBS early show today? This morning I
> was up early and caught this piece on the early morning news show. I was
> shouting at the TV (as if the woman featured would hear me herself)
> because of the stupidity this woman's story displayed as she spoke of
> buying double the quantity needed and then throwing half the food away
> afraid it was bad. She displayed broccoli and said she would cook half
> that night, and the rest would be thrown away in two days if not cooked
> and eaten by then. No mention of actually looking at each item to
> determine if it had gone bad...just the false assumption it might be bad
> so toss it out! What a ditz.
>
> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/...n4285083.shtml
>

Well, all I can say is.... Ya can't fix stupid.

blake murphy wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 00:14:53 -0400, "Nancy Young" >
> wrote:

>> I saw something about even supermarkets are trying to buy in smaller
>> quantities so they don't have to toss so much produce.

> still, i wish some of the pre-packaged stuff came in smaller amounts.
> (i cook mostly for one.) thank god for the bulk items! (my grocery
> recently stopped selling loose mushrooms, which ****ed me off.)

I don't think they've sold loose mushrooms where I shop in a long
time, talking about in the supermarkets. Other vegetables, it's not
usually packaged and you can buy what you need.

I mentioned the chinese place that sold ginger already packaged. I'm
serious, I don't use that much in a year, the packages are so large.
Not looking for a solution, just agreeing that it's a pain when they do
that. One store I visited had all produce packaged, I can't imagine
that was popular.

nancy

On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:37:43 -0700 (PDT), maxine in ri
> wrote:

>Some of my
>coworkers are so sensitive to illness you look at them crosseyed and
>they get sick (nerves?).

They were probably the pampered little darlings whose mommies
sanitized everything and kept them home at a first sniffle, so their
immune system never had a chance to build up. Now they're grown ups
with immature immune systems and you get to pick up their slack.



--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

sf wrote on Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:40:33 -0700:

>> Some of my
>> coworkers are so sensitive to illness you look at them
>> crosseyed and they get sick (nerves?).

> They were probably the pampered little darlings whose mommies
> sanitized everything and kept them home at a first sniffle, so
> their immune system never had a chance to build up. Now
> they're grown ups with immature immune systems and you get to
> pick up their slack.

The Washington Post "Health" section today has instructions on how to
avoid challenging you immune system :-)

--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

maxine in ri wrote:

>
> I'm with you on that. If it passes the sniff test, I eat it.

Yes, but if it doesn't pass the sniff test, do you then attempt to
invoke the Courtesy Sniff rule?

"Ew! This stinks! Smell it!"

Kathleen wrote:

>
>
> Yes, but if it doesn't pass the sniff test, do you then attempt to
> invoke the Courtesy Sniff rule?
>
> "Ew! This stinks! Smell it!"

Yep. Like my whipping cream this morning. It had been opened for close
to three weeks and I figured I had better use it up. I was going to
make a batch of ice cream. I was about to pour it into the pan when I
noticed the smell and texture. Yech. It had turned. I felt bad enough
about dumping 2 pints of whipping cream. I can't imagine buying a
bunch of steaks and throwing them out two days later because they had
not been cooked. I would have put them in the freezer after a day or
two.

Kathleen wrote:
> maxine in ri wrote:
>
>>
>> I'm with you on that. If it passes the sniff test, I eat it.
>
> Yes, but if it doesn't pass the sniff test, do you then attempt to
> invoke the Courtesy Sniff rule?
>
> "Ew! This stinks! Smell it!"

LOL

Dave Smith wrote:
> Kathleen wrote:

>> Yes, but if it doesn't pass the sniff test, do you then attempt to
>> invoke the Courtesy Sniff rule?
>>
>> "Ew! This stinks! Smell it!"
>
> Yep. Like my whipping cream this morning. It had been opened for close
> to three weeks and I figured I had better use it up. I was going to
> make a batch of ice cream. I was about to pour it into the pan when I
> noticed the smell and texture. Yech. It had turned. I felt bad enough
> about dumping 2 pints of whipping cream. I can't imagine buying a
> bunch of steaks and throwing them out two days later because they had
> not been cooked. I would have put them in the freezer after a day or
> two.

But did you envoke the rule by calling your wife over, Smell this!?

nancy

Goomba wrote:
>
> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
> > We haver a 3-day rule for most leftovers. Not all spoilage is evident by
> > appearance or taste.
> >
> This woman was tossing out uncooked raw broccoli, not leftovers! Would
> you have tossed that out without just looking at it to see if it still
> looked good enough to cook and eat?

If I don't plan to use broccoli the day
I buy it, I cut the end of the stem off
and place the remaining end in a jar of
water to keep it fresh. The broccoli
stays fresh for several days that way.

"Nancy Young" > wrote in
:

> chinese place that sold ginger already packaged.

Take ginger and a little water and make a ginger paste in your blender..add
the water first then chunks of ginger and blend...Package it up in 1 tbsp
lots and freeze it...then you can chuck it out after a year instead.

--

The house of the burning beet-Alan

Chile Fiend wrote:

> Mathematical illiteracy is at an all time high in this country. People are
> stark raving mad about terrorism (no thanks to the government)when they
are
> much more likely to die on the road.
>
> That's why retailers can seduce people with sales & coupons so easily.
> People don't have the brains to "do the math" or are too lazy to anymore.


That's one of the reasons why all the media - fueled hysteria about "the
recession" is just that: media - fueled hysteria. 95% of this "recession"
is simply a media invention...people are not only ignorant about math, but
most lack a modicum of common sense.

We hear sob story after sob story about "hard times", etc., when in fact
it's that many are simply lazy and irresponsible airheads. This particular
story is a splendid example of foolish people making foolish decisions...

One bank in California fails, and suddenly there is a "banking crisis".
Food goes up a bit and next thing you know starvation is on the horizon for
most of us; despite the FACT that we in the US pay a smaller percentage of
our income for food than at any time in history. Gasoline prices are moving
up a bit towards normal world market levels and The US As We Know It is now
on the skids. Now many billions of taxpayer dollars are earmarked for
bailing out irresponsible people who made st00pid decisions regarding
mortgages...it goes on and on and on.

"Shoot 'em all, let God sort 'em out..."


--
Best
Greg

Janet wrote:

> "Goomba" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Did anyone else catch this on the CBS early show today? This morning I
was
> > up early and caught this piece on the early morning news show. I was
> > shouting at the TV (as if the woman featured would hear me herself)
> > because of the stupidity this woman's story displayed as she spoke of
> > buying double the quantity needed and then throwing half the food away
> > afraid it was bad. She displayed broccoli and said she would cook half
> > that night, and the rest would be thrown away in two days if not cooked
> > and eaten by then. No mention of actually looking at each item to
> > determine if it had gone bad...just the false assumption it might be bad
> > so toss it out! What a ditz.
> >
>
> Too bad they didn't include a segment on composting. That way it doesn't
go
> completely to waste, and it doesn't enter the waste stream.
>


Actually this idjit family should compost *themselves* but then that would
call into question the integrity of all compost...


--
Best
Greg

blake murphy wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 00:14:53 -0400, "Nancy Young" >

>> I saw something about even supermarkets are trying to buy in smaller
>> quantities so they don't have to toss so much produce.
>>
>> nancy
>
> still, i wish some of the pre-packaged stuff came in smaller amounts.
> (i cook mostly for one.) thank god for the bulk items! (my grocery
> recently stopped selling loose mushrooms, which ****ed me off.)
>
> your pal,
> blake


Not "bulk" as in loose, Blake. She was talking "bulk" as in buying
multiples such as one gets at Sam's Club or Costco.

George Cebulka wrote:

>> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/...n4285083.shtml
>>
>
> Well, all I can say is.... Ya can't fix stupid.

No kidding, and apparently she can't find common sense either. This is
why I was screaming at the TV.. this woman should be EMBARRASSED to be
saying/doing what she did just on this short news piece.

Mark Thorson wrote:

> If I don't plan to use broccoli the day
> I buy it, I cut the end of the stem off
> and place the remaining end in a jar of
> water to keep it fresh. The broccoli
> stays fresh for several days that way.

I don't bother doing all that and just leave the broccoli in the opened
vegetable bag and it says fresh several days also!

I do put my cilantro and parsley bunches in a glass of water, with a
loose plastic bag over. It lasts much longer that way, changing the
water as needed.

Gregory Morrow wrote:

> That's one of the reasons why all the media - fueled hysteria about "the
> recession" is just that: media - fueled hysteria. 95% of this "recession"
> is simply a media invention...people are not only ignorant about math, but
> most lack a modicum of common sense.

From what I learned a recession means, and it does have certain
parameters it has to meet to qualify, and we're not there.
I can't help but think of Franklin Roosevelt's quote- "The only thing we
have to fear, is fear itself."
I think the media has fed into this mood, which in turn alarms people so
they start believing and acting as if there is an actual recession and
it snowballs into something bigger than ever.
I also believe we've had a run of bad events which have caused problems
(weather, terrorism, etc) that are NOT political plots or failings. They
just *are* and we need to put our big girl panties on and deal...not whine.
People have forgotten, or are too young to remember, that things are
often cyclical and we've been through all this before. We're spoiled and
have lost perspective.

IMO, of course.

On Jul 24, 3:03�pm, Goomba > wrote:
> Mark Thorson wrote:
> > If I don't plan to use broccoli the day
> > I buy it, I cut the end of the stem off
> > and place the remaining end in a jar of
> > water to keep it fresh. �The broccoli
> > stays fresh for several days that way.
>
> I don't bother doing all that and just leave the broccoli in the opened
> vegetable bag and it says fresh several days also!

That broccoli doesn't stay fresh, it just may not become totally
rotten for a week or so... broccoli is highly perishable the same as
cut roses, it begins to decay the moment it's harvested... broccoli is
indeed cut flowers.

Um, anyone with functioning culinary brain cells would cook it ALL and
put the LO broccoli in the fridge to use in a different dish like the
next day, maybe dressed as cold salad, or just nosh with a dip, or
even plain as a healthful low calorie snack. There are dozens and
dozen of uses for cold cooked broccoli... people with functioning
culinary brain cells automatically *think* eggs/cheese/bacon/OMELET/
QUICHE-SOUP.

I've grown broccoli and never not cooked all I picked, no different
with broccoli I picked at the produce market. Only a total moron
diliberately buys more fresh highly perishable vegetables than they
will use all at once... to do so makes those people far more a ditz
than that woman who throws half away. When I want storage broccoli I
don't buy fresh, I buy frozen.

How many folks buy fresh asparagus and cook half and save half for a
perhaps I'll cook them in a few days... I never have... I like cold
cooked asparagus, they wont sit in my fridge past next day's
breakfast. But to be honest I can't remember the last time I cooked
asparagus and had left overs, typically there never seems to be
enough. But very occasionally I have had left over cooked broccoli...
but never around more than 12 hours before being eaten. Now I've had
left over cooked home grown zukes that never got eaten and felt not a
twinge of guilt tossing those into the compost.

Goomba wrote:

> Gregory Morrow wrote:
>
> > That's one of the reasons why all the media - fueled hysteria about "the
> > recession" is just that: media - fueled hysteria. 95% of this
"recession"
> > is simply a media invention...people are not only ignorant about math,
but
> > most lack a modicum of common sense.
>
> From what I learned a recession means, and it does have certain
> parameters it has to meet to qualify, and we're not there.
> I can't help but think of Franklin Roosevelt's quote- "The only thing we
> have to fear, is fear itself."
> I think the media has fed into this mood, which in turn alarms people so
> they start believing and acting as if there is an actual recession and
> it snowballs into something bigger than ever.


Yep, remember the "hoarding" rice thing from a coupla months ago? It was
just that Costco was limiting the bags of rice people could buy, a very
reasonable measure. All of a sudden it's a "RICE SHORTAGE...!!!", the media
was all over it...youdda thought it was Leningrad During The Siege or The
Fall Of Berlin or some such.

And sure, food prices have risen, but it's not like they've doubled or
tripled or whatever. Keep things in perspective, I mean a barrel of oil
was, what, $25.00 per barrel c. 2000 or so, and now it's like FIVE times
that. Prices certainly haven't quintupled in that time, this is not late
'20's Germany with the hyperinflation...

I remember the late 70's - early 80's, with their gas lines and rationing,
double - digit unemployment that approached Depression levels, foreclosed
farmers going into their rural banks and shooting the guys who extended them
credit, etc...the present sitch is nowhere near that bad.

> I also believe we've had a run of bad events which have caused problems
> (weather, terrorism, etc) that are NOT political plots or failings. They
> just *are* and we need to put our big girl panties on and deal...not
whine.
> People have forgotten, or are too young to remember, that things are
> often cyclical and we've been through all this before. We're spoiled and
> have lost perspective.
>
> IMO, of course.


'Zactly, and yours is not an opinion, it's *fact*. Talk to an older person
who lived during the Depression, NO banks open, NO monetary system excpet
what change folks had in their pockets, etc. Many were reduced to a
bartering economy. Heck, I can remember worse times in *my* lifetime and
I'm not all *that* old, lol...

Somehow I don't think that having to trade in a huge SUV for a smaller
vehicle or actually having to THINK before you throw something into yer
grocery cart or foregoing a fifty buck per week Starbucks habit or a nail
salon visit or giving up HBO on cable constitutes a "crisis". I'm sorry
that your home is being foreclosed upon but what did you expect when you had
poor credit, no money down, no income verification, and WHY did you not read
the fine print to know what the term "ARM" means!? Those high - paying
factory jobs where a high school drop - out could have a nice middle class
lifestyle are gone, have YOU prepared for your future? You messed up, not
my responsibility...

Thing is, unlike 1973 or 1933 we have an insatiable demand for nonstop
24/7/365 teevee and internet nooze coverage, and the old adage "bad news
sells" is more relevant than ever...

=====>>> pontificating today, lol...


--
Best
Greg

Mark Thorson wrote:

> If I don't plan to use broccoli the day
> I buy it, I cut the end of the stem off
> and place the remaining end in a jar of
> water to keep it fresh. The broccoli
> stays fresh for several days that way.

That seems like a lot of work to keep broccoli. I but off branches as I need it
and toss the rest into the vegetable crisper and it keeps nicely for a week or
more.

Dave Smith wrote:
>
> Mark Thorson wrote:
>
> > If I don't plan to use broccoli the day
> > I buy it, I cut the end of the stem off
> > and place the remaining end in a jar of
> > water to keep it fresh. The broccoli
> > stays fresh for several days that way.
>
> That seems like a lot of work to keep broccoli. I but off branches as I need it
> and toss the rest into the vegetable crisper and it keeps nicely for a week or
> more.

A lot of work? Cutting a piece of the stem off
and placing the head in a jar of water? Buying
the broccoli and then taking it out of the bag
when I get home is more work than that.

Within a few hours of being put in the water,
the broccoli gets very firm. I like that.
I don't like rubbery broccoli.

Mark Thorson wrote:
>
> Within a few hours of being put in the water,
> the broccoli gets very firm. �I like that.

Dunk mine in cold water it shrivels immediately.

"Sheldon" > wrote in message
...
Mark Thorson wrote:
>
> Within a few hours of being put in the water,
> the broccoli gets very firm. �I like that.

Dunk mine in cold water it shrivels immediately.

Shrinkage!

George Costanza

Goomba wrote:
> Did anyone else catch this on the CBS early show today? This morning I
> was up early and caught this piece on the early morning news show. I was
> shouting at the TV (as if the woman featured would hear me herself)
> because of the stupidity this woman's story displayed as she spoke of
> buying double the quantity needed and then throwing half the food away
> afraid it was bad. She displayed broccoli and said she would cook half
> that night, and the rest would be thrown away in two days if not cooked
> and eaten by then. No mention of actually looking at each item to
> determine if it had gone bad...just the false assumption it might be bad
> so toss it out! What a ditz.
>
> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/...n4285083.shtml

Is there a reason this woman can't tell her husband, children and
childrens' friends that "This is what's for breakfast/lunch/dinner.
Starve if you don't like it."

That's what our parents did whenever we started a food gripe, and it
worked wonders for us.

Tell your brats to eat what's there. Tell their friends to go home if
they don't like what your having for the meal.

Price of gas be damned. You'll save money shopping twice a week, buying
less each time and using up what's in the fridge between trips.

Learn to use your freezer correctly. Your freezer is your friend.

How in hell does anyone expect bulk meat bought on sale to survive until
they're ready to use it? Buy only what you can and will eat.

Pennyaline wrote:

> Is there a reason this woman can't tell her husband, children and
> childrens' friends that "This is what's for breakfast/lunch/dinner.
> Starve if you don't like it."
>
> That's what our parents did whenever we started a food gripe, and it
> worked wonders for us.
>
> Tell your brats to eat what's there. Tell their friends to go home if
> they don't like what your having for the meal.
>
> Price of gas be damned. You'll save money shopping twice a week, buying
> less each time and using up what's in the fridge between trips.
>
> Learn to use your freezer correctly. Your freezer is your friend.
>
> How in hell does anyone expect bulk meat bought on sale to survive until
> they're ready to use it? Buy only what you can and will eat.
>

Also, lets interject some more common sense solutions here. If she's so
busy taking the kids to soccor, cheerleading and whatever else she
named, I'm near certain she's driving past a few markets on the way.
What that means is she can stop on the way and shop as she needs. She's
already out driving around, not making a special "grocery store only"
trip with blinders on to anything else.
Stupid women annoy and embarrass me as another woman. Thankfully I use
my noggin'

Goomba wrote:
>
> Did anyone else catch this on the CBS early show today? This morning I
> was up early and caught this piece on the early morning news show. I was
> shouting at the TV (as if the woman featured would hear me herself)
> because of the stupidity this woman's story displayed as she spoke of
> buying double the quantity needed and then throwing half the food away
> afraid it was bad. She displayed broccoli and said she would cook half
> that night, and the rest would be thrown away in two days if not cooked
> and eaten by then. No mention of actually looking at each item to
> determine if it had gone bad...just the false assumption it might be bad
> so toss it out! What a ditz.
>
> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/...n4285083.shtml


We switched off before that, but there have been local stories regarding
the same issue. It's so easy to buy/cook the correct amount without
throwing food away. Doesn't take a lot of brain power or time or
planning.